I would just like to point out that it’s canon that in hobbit culture they make light of more serious things—and I would also like to point out that Bilbo’s invitation to Frodo to come live with him is: “You had better come and live here, Frodo my lad, and then we can celebrate our birthday-parties comfortably together.”
And in context it’s just. What if it was Bilbo recognizing Frodo felt lonely and stifled living at Brandy Hall ever since his parents died, and that he was a young hobbit in his tweens with no one to really turn to or give him the kind of attention or stability he needed. What if it was Bilbo offering Frodo that stability and understanding and companionship. What if it was Bilbo telling Frodo he knew he couldn’t replace his parents but could still give him a good home where he could feel safe and secure. And what if it was Bilbo telling Frodo he could do all of that for him through the comment about celebrating their shared birthday together, because they’re hobbits, and hobbits make light of serious things.
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Just had a middle-of-the-night “ohhhh” moment as I just figured out that Kim Dokja needs the Fourth Wall not because of the scenarios but because it was essentially his survival mechanism for life.
Now I have only read the novel once so I could totally be forgetting stuff & way off-base but this is what I remember. Inane rambling under the cut, major spoilers included.
We know he’s generally antisocial, placing himself outside of society like a reader, and he internally smoothed over Sangah’s rough points even before the scenarios, making her into a ‘character’ (a caricature of herself) that fit into an archetype.
Dissociating from reality & viewing himself as a reader is his coping mechanism & “WoS coming to life” provides a convenient excuse to keep ignoring that fact.
This kind of ties in with an idea I’ve been forming about the Fourth Wall, which is that KDJ is fundamentally incapable of believing that “The Characters” (read: everyone) can experience growth as a result of his actions. He exists outside of the story, he is in the audience beyond the fourth wall, so he cannot affect the characters.
Hence the paradoxical nature of the Fourth Wall. For as long as he is a Reader, the Fourth Wall is maintained. And as long as the Fourth Wall is maintained, he will continue to be a Reader.
(Warning this is where it gets incoherent and messy.)
Kim Dokja fundamentally NEEDS the Fourth Wall to be maintained. Not just because of the OD stuff, but because it’s the way he’s learnt to cope with existing. It’s also why dying is so easy for him—we know he cannot deal with the guilt of making people he cares about suffer, but if he’s just a Reader, that means he can’t really have any meaningful impact on their lives, so it’s fine for him to just… disappear.
Kim Dokja is not actively suicidal, he’s just invested himself so far into the worldview of himself being a Reader that to him, his temporary deaths no longer register as dying. More like… stepping out of the theatre for a bit.
It gets complicated when we hit OD. Because then we realise the KDJ we’ve been accompanying is essentially a self-insert OC. So we can ascribe the way he thinks to OD, including all the coping mechanisms and self-distancing. But where OD manages to escape the narrative along with SP, at the same time the KimCom Crew escape the narrative, KDJ actually kind of… doubles down?
Like, OD does what any Reader does and learns from the book. When KDJ says “I, someone of no redeeming quality, could be loved by the others.” It’s not just him learning this lesson. It’s actually kind of the opposite. OD is Reading this lesson so he learns that he’s allowed to accept the mercy of SP & the 999 crew. So they escape the narrative.
KimCom also manages to escape the narrative but KDJ… can’t. He comes to the conclusion that he was actually backstage all along. But that means he’s still not ON stage. A Character can’t feel for the Script Writer or Director or Stage Manager. So he doubles down on his separation from them, stepping into that role. And then then KimCom comes banging on his door backstage because they’re not just characters, they’re the Actors now, and KDJ disappears because he can’t deal with that, because he fundamentally cannot exist on the same plane as them.
I think that’s why I’m hopeful at a post-epilogue ending. KDJ The Reader exists at essentially a higher tier than the people around him, and so he believes he cannot be loved in a way that has a lasting impact on them. But he DID spend years being affected by WoS, by Yoo Joonghyuk. If he becomes the Character, and them the Readers… maybe, just maybe, he can actually accept that love.
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For all my bitching and complaining… that last bit with Wash and Carolina and the Freelancers was… comforting. For someone who grew up with this show and Rooster Teeth it has been really hard to watch it all fall apart these past few years… these people raised me. And it’s hard to feel so disappointed by the very thing that made you who you are… but that’s now. Things weren’t always like this. There was a time RT and RvB was the most important thing to me. My hero’s. And the effect it all had on me still matters. Those memories matter. And no matter how bad or disappointing things got in the end… I can always remember those first 13 seasons that changed my life. I can always remember the reds and blues who helped me define my sense of self. I can remember what they mean to me. Red vs Blue may be over but the memories it’s gave me will follow me till I die. I can always remember at nine years old my brother showing me the Tex vs the reds and blue fight and laughing my ass off at it. I can remember always watching over my brothers shoulder when they were watching it. I can remember how they always quoted it. I can remember sitting down at 15 and deciding to watch the show fully for myself. I can remember how my jaw dropped at the alpha reveal and I actually had to take a full 30 minute break to go scream outside for a bit. I can remember how Wash instantly became one of my favorite characters. I can remember how it took three whole rewatches for me to get the “I thought it’d be bigger” penis joke. I can remember how I cried when Caboose walked out on Church. I can remember how I hated Carolina at first but then slowly grew to love her even more than Tex. I can remember how I forced my best friend to watch the show just so I could prank her with sad fanart once she finished s13. I can remember how I grieved Church for so long after finishing 13. I can remember how I secretly themed my entire bedroom after blue team. I can remember how this is the most emotionally attached to a group of fictional characters I have ever been and probably ever will be.
So yeah I’m gonna bitch and complain about all the shit I didn’t like, what else would you expect from someone who calls Church their favorite character? But I’m also going to always remember what made this show so special to me in the first place. Thank you Red vs. Blue for being my favorite show ever. Of all time. I will always remember what it means to me, the joy it brought me, the comfort, the hope… after all
Memory is the key
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hey, genuine question, do you romantically ship amanda and angela?
hi anon! in all seriousness, no i don’t. amanda is very happy with her husband and loves him very much. i honestly wish them all the best. what i love about amangela is their friendship (which is the same thing i loved about shourtney before we got official confirmation). it’s the kind of friendship where the love is just so evident you can’t help but be delighted whenever you see them together! (rpf is a separate convo though in my opinion).
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