#G. Gordon Godfrey

[lonelywretchjervistetch]

My DC Cinematic Universe: Superman (Part IX)

Chapter Nine: Superman

It's at this time that we finally begin the story for this first theoretical film. Bits and pieces have been added throughout this elongated essay series, but this post is the culmination of these efforts, as well as fixing or clarifying a few things I've already mentioned.

Now, before anything else, there is something I need to make abundantly clear. I am not a writer. I am not a screenplay writer, a comic book writer, or a writer of any other kind. My name is published in scientific papers, and my training is primarily in ecology and ornithology. I have a bunch of ideas about comics and webcomics, but haven't really finished them (as of yet). I have written a healthy number of film reviews on my side profile, but I DEFINITELY wouldn't call them literary masterpieces. So, yeah, absolutely not a writer.

However, what I am is a MASSIVE goddamn nerd who spends a lot of time thinking about how he would make movies about various comic book characters. Superman, of course, is one of those characters. So, before we start, here are a few things to keep in mind. This is meant to be lighter in tone, and more down to Earth than most Superman films tend to be. Think more like Superman: The First Movie, but a touch more serious nd introspective when it comes to our main character. And again, not a writer, so some blanks may have to be filled in here or there as we go along.

OK, OK, without further ado...let's see what we can do. Flash the DC logo, let's get started!

Prologue: Up in the Sky

We're gonna bookend this film with narration from Lois Lane, specifically pieces that she's writing on Superman and Metropolis. Gonna be mostly show and less tell, but Lois will help introduce us to the city. And in the beginning, we'll go from the opening directly to the street. Bustling activity on the sidewalk, people starting their day as the sun rises, and tracking life in Metropolis, right from the start.

Metropolis, for all intents and purposes, should feel like a real city. I'm talking Chicago, I'm talking New York. But, where Gotham represents those cities in the dead of night, when fear lurks in the darkness, we'll be seeing Metropolis shortly after sunrise, just as the city begins to wake up. And again, this should feel like a real city, with character and flavor all its own. And Lois' narration should reflect and describe that character. A city that's always been grasping towards a bright future, but is inhabited by those comfortable living in the modern day. A place of tomorrows that hold onto the past. Nostalgia tempered by ambition. Y'know, that kinda stuff.

As Lois begins to describe the feel and life in the city, as well as recent changes and strife, we go to Hob's Bay, a older harborside neighborhood, and one of the oldest in Metropolis. a man visits a news stand and picks up a paper. This man is Bibbo Bibowski, a local character and owner of the Ace o'Clubs pub, and he picks up a local paper, the Daily Star. He looks at the Daily Planet, which is reporting on Superman, and grimaces. Not a fan, clearly. He puts in a pair of headphones, and turns on a podcast, Leslie Willis' Live Wire. Yeah, on the nose, I know, but you get it.

As Bibbo's walking to work, he bumps into a clumsy young man, whom he identifies as Jimmy Olsen. The two are friendly, but you can see a brief clash of ideologies as Bibbo refers to Jimmy's job at the Daily Planet as less than respectable, given their stance on certain issues. Jimmy brushes this off, because he's going to be late to work. He grabs some food from a stand, then gets a rideshare to the Daily Planet. But before he can get there...

Why yes, that IS a clip from the 1997 film Steel, starring Shaquille O'Neal. And yes, this IS for a good reason! So, Jimmy's in the ride share, texting Lois to let her know that's he's on his way to the office. But, on the way, a crime erupts when the Metropolis PD race by, interrupting traffic. Jimmy, following the normal actions of an intrepid reporter (according to Lois, anyway), asks the driver to follow them. When they get there, they see the police interrupting a robbery.

Lois' narration continues, telling us that crime has been getting worse, with gangs taking claim over various territories, using increasingly powerful weaponry. This weaponry, in this case is the Toastmaster, a powerful weapon used by the White Rabbit Gang of Hob's Bay. Caught smuggling the weapons by the police, a fire fight has erupted. The Special Forces Unit, led by Maggie Sawyer and Dan Turpin, arrives with their own firepower and manages to subdue some of the gang members. But at that point, a much larger Toastmaster, the BG-105, is brought out by a member of the gang, each of whom have a white rabbit on their jackets. He fires the gun, and it's obvious that the cops are outmatched. It's also at this point that Jimmy's out of the car, taking pictures for a story.

A gang member grabs a box and runs away, backed up by his compatriots. And as the danger's increased significantly, and Maggie and Dan are about to be blasted by this Toastmaster...

Part One: This is Your Life, Clark Kent

So, yeah, obviously this is when Superman shows up. We flash the title screen real fast, play his bombastic leitmotif, and we jump right back into the action. Superman gets hit by the blast, and you can immediately tell that this isn't the normal kind of hit you'd expect Superman to take. Normally, we see Superman sort of glance off bullets and energy blasts like nothing, but this clearly has more kick to it. Superman takes a few steps forward through the blast, struggling a bit as he does it, while Sawyer and Turpin and the rest of the unit mobilize on the other members of the gang present. Even then, though, one of the gang members escapes, scared and not wanting to be caught. Superman is, of course, there to take out the big Toastmaster and provide needed backup for the cops.

The fight ends, Superman has some interaction with Maggie Sawyer and Turpin (the latter of whom is slightly more non-plussed by Superman getting into police business), and he takes off. Jimmy looks on at this, then looks at his photos, all of which are genuinely fantastic. Jimmy, for the record, should be a great photographer. And that should be agreed upon at the Daily Planet, where Jimmy arrives to the angry shouts of editor-in-chief Perry White.

Perry's shouting for Jimmy, as well as any reporters who have info on the White Rabbit attack that's just happened. Jimmy walks into a meeting, where we meet each of the major members of the Daily Planet crew. I've described them of Part V of this essay series, but real quick in this sequence, we get some basic descriptions of their roles in the paper.

Cat Grant is a gossip columnist, whose current focus is on Lex Luthor and his relationship with some Contessa from Italy, as well as other prescient gossip. She's been essentially removed from the Superman beat, which she's still kinda bitter towards Lois about, but whatever. However, over the course of the Superman franchise, Cat will find herself orienting more towards superhero and supervillain reporting, moving her into a slightly different role than she's had in the comics.

Steve Lombard, sports columnist, is focusing on an upcoming game between the Metropolis Meteors (a team which he used to serve on) and the Gotham Wildcats, the winner of which is set up go up against either the Midway Cardinals or the Star City Stags to determine standing in the National Conference. He rambles on about it, but Perry cuts him off.

Ron Troupe, political columnist, is reporting on politician Gordon Crown's campaign, which includes his stance on the crime increase, as well as the struggles of the police. This is our introduction to the some of the sociopolitical strain in Metropolis, which is obviously a major theme going forward, as well as Crown's goal.

It's at this point that Jimmy comes in, with reports of the photos he's gotten for a new story. He looks for Lois, who's on the crime beat and the city beat alongside Clark, and is also not there. Nor is city beat reporter Clark, and we see that their seats at the table are empty, much to Perry's irritation. He asks where Lois is, and we find out exactly where she is.

Here, we finally put face to the narration, as Lois Lane arrives at the crime scene in order to speak with Sawyer, Turpin, and the recently arrived Chief William Henderson, who is speaking with Superman and giving his thanks. Lois, being the intrepid reporter, tries to get an interview with anybody who'll give her the time of day. Basically everybody's in a hurry to leave, as the police are needed for an upcoming press conference with Gordon Crown, which Ron Troupe is also attending. But one person does interact with Lois: Superman. They obviously have a previous press-informer relationship, as Superman gives Lois a healthy amount of info about the events that had unfolded, then takes off after a polite (if slightly awkward) greeting. And once he takes off, running up and out of breath right after is Clark Kent, who had not gotten to the scene as a result of traffic, and was "beat to the punch" by Lois.

So, yeah, obviously Clark and Superman are one and the same, but I'm really trying to carve out a distinct difference between the two identities. Clark is Superman's real face, but he would try and play it up just a little bit to throw suspicion off of himself. Most of the time, this isn't an issue, but there is somebody who's come close to figuring out his secret: Lois. And we get this idea throughout the film. Anyway, Clark and Lois' dynamic is notably different, and we should see the change. The two are clearly friendly towards each other, although we should get the idea that this is a recent development. As reporters, they engage in some friendly competition and banter, but they're also somewhat too busy to hang out outside of work. Which is another dichotomy to enforce. Y'know, Superman is too busy for Lois, but Lois is too busy for Clark. It's symmetry! Anyway, after some pleasant and likeable conversation, the two head to work together.

Two more things real quick. Firstly, the romantic tension isn't quite out in the open as of yet, but there's definitely chemistry between the two. You should get the sense of a pre-existing relationship, with some potentially romantic overtones, but it's not crystallized yet. After all, romance between these two isn't exactly tension, since it's inevitable, but we should see the hints of it beginning to blossom. And it will blossom, but in an unexpected manner. Why?

Well, that brings us to our second point: Lois knows that Clark is Superman, but Clark doesn't know that Lois knows. Because let's be goddamn honest about something: Lois is absolutely a bullshit detector. And her insanely intrepid nature has led her to realize that Clark and Superman are one and the same. But she's mostly wrestling with ethics here. Does she ruin this person's life, and almost certainly the lives of others by telling a truth that doesn't need to be outed...or does she continue to gather information on this person, and try and understand them further to get a more fleshed-out story? And, of course, that was Lois' original plan, but she's realized that Clark is his own person, and not actually pretending to be something he isn't, in both of his identities. And in the process, she actually found herself liking Clark as a person, and not just as a story. But the distance between his identities is still hard for her to reconcile, so she's still figuring things out. But by the end of this film, she'll know exactly what she wants, and how she feels about Clark and Superman.

We cut from those two, and to an alleyway, to where the gang member who'd escaped earlier has run. A car pulls up, and the person inside is Bruno Manheim, who is being played by Tony Dalton in this essay. Somebody suggested it, and I like him for the part, honestly. The gang member is let into the car, and a friendly-seeming Bruno chats it up with them. Apparently, this struggle was part of a trade deal between the White Rabbits and Manheim's group, Intergang, but someone had tipped Manheim and his men off, meaning that Intergang didn't show up to the deal. Who tipped them off isn't said, however.

Manheim wants the Toastmasters, but now wants to deal directly with the boss of the Rabbits, whose identity is not well-known. After a conversation, Manheim intimidates the Rabbit and tells him he wants a meeting with their boss. He convinces the member to help arrange the meeting, and to tell only the boss so that this kind of thing wouldn't happen again. He lets the freaked-out Rabbit go, and relaxes in the back of his car.

A partition lowers, and a man in the passenger seat asks why he let him go. One, Manheim has other places to be; and two, at some point during the talk, Manheim slipped a tracker on the young Rabbit. Yes, this is a tech-savvy gang, and Manheim is not entirely stupid. He tells the driver to drop him off at "the rally", and then tells the man in the passenger seat to track down the rabbit. This man, John Corben, smiles at the request, and the group takes off. Oh, and the pre-Metallo Corben is played by Wilson Bethel in this essay.

OK, we're getting a little bogged down in the details, but let's continue following the story. At this point, I've been building up to a rally that's set to take place that afternoon. As Lois and Clark arrive at the Planet, they interact with the other members of the bullpen in various stages of their day, and we get to know see the inter-office relationships. Most prominently, of course, is Jimmy and our duo, and the three are pretty clearly often associated with each other. They go to meet Perry, he's a little pissed at how late they were, but lets it go in Lois' case when he hears their intel for the overarching story. But since Clark hasn't come in with a story, Perry assigns him to accompany Troupe to the upcoming Crown rally, and to get interviews with the audience members present, while Troupe interviews Crown himself. Clark agrees, and Jimmy offers to accompany them to get pictures of the event.

After this meeting, Clark gets a call from his folks, who are packing to head to Metropolis later that week on a visit. We get a hint that Jonathan Kent recently visited a doctor for cardiac concerns, but little more than a mention. Clark goes to meet Troupe, who's somewhat dismissive, but not out of any malice. It's from him and Olsen than we get an idea of who Gordon Crown is, as well as his views, and what the rally is going to focus upon.

Crown (played by Will Poulter for the purpose of this essay, and because I think he'd be a solid cast), is a young, likeable politician currently running for public office, after having been a popular political pundit working for the rival to the Daily Bugle, the Morgan Edge-owned company Galaxy Communications. On good terms with the Planet staff, he's an affable person with somewhat conservative views. Not everyone agrees with him, but he's got a reliable base. Interestingly, he's particularly critical of superheroes and vigilantes, having built his career on a very anti-crime platform.

He's also a very fast social climber, but this is attributed to him either being a massive suck-up (which he is when necessary), or just very good at his job (which he definitely seems to be). In any case, his success is undeniable, and his popularity is climbing, as seen by the decent number of people at the rally. This number includes Clark, Ron, and Jimmy, amongst other reporters; Inspector Henderson and Maggie Sawyer, who've just arrived; LexCorp representative Mercy Graves (more on her later), there in place of her boss; and pulling up in a limo in the back, Bruno Manheim. He gets out, then tells his driver he knows what to do. The driver pulls around the corner, then parked the car in an alley, bringing a gun with him.

He climbs up to the roof, and as this happens, we get a glimpse at Gordon Crown. We see him talking backstage with Mercy Graves, where she's giving him a message from Lex. He finishes that conversation, then greets Henderson and talks about the events of the day in terms of the White Rabbit Gang, just before going onstage. Just then, the driver sets up a rifle on a rooftop opposite the rally. Obviously, we're looking at an assassination attempt. However, before anything happens, the man leaves, simply setting up the gun and hooking it up to a technological device of some kind. He gets it set up, then leaves after setting a timer of some kind.

Once he makes it into the car, he watches on a screen in the car. When the time is right, he presses the button, and an obvious (obvious) laser light shines on Crown. Everyone sees this, including Clark, who speeds off to intercept the bullet. The gun fires, a bullet hits Superman, who's just arrived, and Crown locks eyes with a passing car, which holds Manheim staring at him through the window, and winking. Crown sees this, Crown understands this...but he says nothing. Instead, he takes the opportunity to thank Superman, even though it's apparent that he doesn't really want to. Superman goes to find the culprit, but to no avail.

After the shooting and the police follow-up, Lois arrives to cover this event, as it falls beneath her wheelhouse. After the stressful day, Jimmy invites Clark, Lois, and Ron to go to the Ace o' Clubs and take a load off. Ron passes, but Clark and Lois agree, and the group decides to meet up that night. Once there, we see that Crown has quickly rebounded, and is meeting with an anchor on a local news program, recounting the events of that day. Bibbo, with this channel on at the pub, comments to various individuals in the bar (Jimmy included) that some people (him included) think Superman was in on it, trying to make himself look like a big hero in front of the audience, and in front of Crown, his biggest detractor. Which, frankly, is a solid argument.

Lois agrees that the idea would be a good story, while Jimmy vehemently disagrees. He's a big fan of Superman, and he knows he was trying to do the right thing. CLark doesn't say much, since he doesn't like to comment on...well, himself. He does agree that it's a plausible theory, though. The three have a conversation about Superman, maybe about other similar figures that have appeared in the city or elsewhere, and give us a better idea of the environs in which we find ourselves.

From there, we go to a very nice house in Martinside, a very wealthy district of the city. A car pulls up to this house, and Gordon Crown exits. He enters the house, where in an office meeting with some of his men, Bruno Manheim is sitting and laughing. When Crown enters, he dismisses everybody but Corben, his right hand man. Crown's clearly a little upset at the assassination attempt, as there was no way Manheim could've known that Superman would show up. Manheim brushes it off, as the wound the bullet was meant to inflict would've been non-lethal, and that whoever his tech connections were knew what they were talking about with the remote rifle.

Crown capitulates this, and thanks Manheim for his cooperation. He also regrets the fact that Superman was there, as it could've helped his public image. Still, he thinks he's spun the angles all right, all things considered. The two have a shared moment of hatred for Superman, but Manheim seems to think he'll be able to take care of him soon. A curious Crown asks how, and Manheim credits his own connections. Just then, we hear someone else enter the room, with a clack of heels.

Now here's where things get a little...tricky. This is Angora Lapin (yes, really), played in this essay by Taraji P. Henson. In the comics, Angora is a villain of Steel, AKA John Henry Irons, having stolen his experimental weapons and work to make the Toastmaster and issue it to the streets for cash. She's the leader of the White Rabbit Gang in this film, and is called White Rabbit in the comics. And she's also implied to be an albino black woman. Which is...hard to cast.

Shout out, by the way, to Diandra Forrest, the only albino black actress I could find. I hope her career goes well, because it's very much in its infancy at the moment. But, for now, we're gonna go with Henson. Now, to be fair, Lapin is basically a cameo here, but she's received the message about meeting with Manheim to make a deal about the Toastmasters. Crown stays during this interaction, which Lapin clocks but cares little about. Manheim, in fact, states that Crown is under the protection of Intergang, and that he'll make things good for them in Gotham. Lapin and her gang can have in on that as well, if they make a deal for the Toastmasters, and lays low for a little while, working for Intergang in the process. Lapin agrees, but also notes that they didn't do much against Superman.

And that's when Crown interjects. His connections may be able to help with that.

Finally, this night in Metropolis is coming to a close. All of this has happened within one day. Clark and Lois leave Jimmy at the Ace O' Clubs, with both Lois and Clark headed home. They say their goodbyes, with Lois' dialogue indicating some kind of knowledge about Clark's secret life, which is easily played off as a joke. They say good night, and Clark goes back to the apartment. He reads some messages from his folks, who've obviously seen the news about the assassination attempt, and are checking in on their son. Clark responds with a smile, maybe even calls, and then heads to bed for the night.

But in his sleep, Clark has dreams that he's encased in crystal, cold and alone in an empty void. Other visions come to him, and we see glimpses of Krypton's destruction and his past. Clark, in this universe, doesn't know a lot about his past, save that he's from another planet, and that he didn't have these abilities from birth. He also knows of his connection with the sun of Earth, and that the ship he arrived here inside of is largely made of crystal and otherworldly metals. But the uncertainty, combined with these dreams of a forgotten past, is a constant thought with him. And when he wakes up in a cold sweat (which Clark doesn't usually do), he gets up and flies into the night as Superman, using his vision to see the stars beyond the light pollution from the city below.

And that's the end of...Act One.

Shit. SHIT. It's gonna be longer than nine parts, isn't it? Dammit.

Index: Superman

Part I: Why I Love Superman

Part II: On Lois Lane

Part III: The Kents

Part IV: The 'Rents

Part V: The...Frendts?

Part VI: Lex Luthor

Part VII: The Real Villains

Part VIII: Superman's Rogues Gallery

Part IX: The Story - Act One

Part X: The Story (Acts Two and Three)

Part XI: The Story - Climax

Part XII: Epilogue (Part One)

Part XIII: Epilogue (Part Two)

#dc comics #dc headcanon #dc fanfic #dc fanfiction #dc cinematic universe #james gunn #dc movies #my dc cinematic universe #superman #clark kent #intergang #bruno manheim #lois lane #jimmy olsen #bibbo bibbowski #g. gordon godfrey #headcanon #my film #film ideas #my film ideas #movie idea #essay

[gale-gentlepenguin]

I have, submitted for your approval, the ultimate showdown. G Gordon Godfrey vs J Jonah Jameson. Who talks more trash about superheroes?

(What a fun question I would love more of these)

So G Gordon Godfrey is a f***ing Shill that will praise whoever and insult others if he thinks its good for Ratings. I think his dislike of heroes is very bland and one dimensional. If we are talking Justice league the animated series

If we are talking Young Justice or in the comics, G Gordon Godfrey is actually an agent of Darkseid meant to sow distrust in the public and purposefully goes against the Justice League in order to please his master.

J Jonah Jameson goes against Vigilantes, specifically masked ones. The reason being he wants heroes to be held accountable since they are taking the law into their own hands. Its Why J J funded Scorpion to take down Spiderman. But unlike Gordon who's belief contradict and shift depending on objectives, JJ has solid footing in his beliefs and is fine with heroes like Captain America and Fantastic Four because they are out in the open and accept what they are accountable for. He also is for Journalistic integrity, always disclosing bias, and will ask the hard questions. So I actually have some respect for the J man.

So if we are talking just straight trashing heroes, I would say G Gordon Godfrey because it is his literal mission to do so and his whole thing is making heroes look bad.

While J Jonah Jameson is more personal and devoted on the attack on Spider Man and Vigilantes. He is more personal with his trash talk and obsession. But J wont violate journalistic integrity to diss Spiderman,

So gotta go with the G for being the slimeball with no morals

#g gordon godfrey #j jonah jameson #this is a great question #dc #marvel

[dc-tournaments]

Why do they deserve to win?

Amanda Waller

Glorious Godfrey

#dc #fuck this guy in particular tournament #amanda waller #g gordon godfrey

[cigamfossertsim]

iris west: its unconscionable. its morally bankrupt!

g gordon godfrey: its ✨showbiz✨

#gbs news #g gordon godfrey #the g gordon godfrey show #iris west #dc comics #young justice

[danthepest]

Some of the Justice League enemies seen in the DC Animated Universe. In order:

Starro - First appearance in The Brave and the Bold v1 #28 (1960).

Despero - First appearance in Justice League of America v1 #1 (1960).

Kanjar-Ro - First appearance in Justice League of America v1 #3 (1961).

Dr. Destiny - First appearance in Justice League of America v1 #5 (1961).

The Key - First appearance in Justice League of America v1 #41 (1965).

Eclipso - First appearance in The House of Secrets #61 (1963).

Felix Faust - First appearance in Justice League of America v1 #10 (1962).

Simon Stagg - First appearance in The Brave and the Bold v1 #57 (1965).

Gordon Godfrey - First appearance in The Forever People v1 #3 (1971).

Brimstone - First appearance in Legends #1 (1986).

#dc #dc animated universe #dcau #detective comics #justice league #justice league unlimited #jlu #justice league villains #dc villains #doctor destiny #dr destiny #simon stagg #brimstone #eclipso #the key #g gordon godfrey #gloeious godfrey #starro #despero #kanjar ro #kanjar-ro #felix faust #legends #the forever people #the brave and the bold #justice league of america #house of secrets #batman beyond

[herra-eddelkopper]

This guy is a xenophobic, racist fuck, too, I bet.

#g gordon godfrey #young justice invasion #s2 ep1

[ft-nostalgia]

Why does no one talk about how G Gordon Godfrey reads from an obvious Seduction of the Innocent parody book in The Justice League Animated Series? Are these direct quotes? Also, I can't remember, but does this show go into how he's a plant for Darkseid? Is this before that?

#g gordon godfrey #seduction of the innocent #remember that book that made comics invent Batgirl and batwoman #yes #jlas #i swear officers it's not my queue i've never seen it before

[stealingyourbones]

Short DPXDC Prompts #171

(This isn’t short but since they’re all the same vein why not make a bunch of ideas into one.)

Danny gets hired by various media companies in DC

Danny works for G. Gordon Godfrey. The man is a tv host but none the less it could definitely be a “Danny works for a bigot xenophobic asshole but he needs money.” Thing. A more evil J. Jonah Jameson thing ya know?

Danny gets hired to work with Cat Grant as her assistant in Metropolis. Clark has seen this new kid flit around behind Mrs. Grant but doesn’t know much of the boy

Danny works with Vicky Vale, possibly as the camera man or sound guy as she reports on The Batman

Danny works with Iris West and assists as a copy boy. Similar position to Lois and Clark with Jimmy Olsen

Danny works alongside Jimmy Olsen as a photographer and have a playful sense of competition between the two to get the best pics for the next Daily Planet issue

#danny phantom #dpxdc #dp x dc #dc #dc comics #writing prompts #prompts #dp x dc prompt #social media au #Danny gets adopted by various people who work in the news industry #Danny as the camera guy would be such a fun way to convey the POV where it’s just the view of the camera #idk but it was too many similar ideas that I wanted to post them all at once #bones prompts

[thecasscain]

Jason & Bruce in Legends (1986)

[Jason: Yeah -- and maybe they won't! I mean, I was almost killed by the very people we were supposed to be protecting!

Bruce: I can't believe that was intentional--! Goaded by Gordon G. Godfrey, they were out of control -- didn't know what they were doing --!

Jason: Oh, I think they knew exactly what they were doing, Bruce! I think maybe deep down, they all really hate us -- maybe they fear the Batman more than the criminals do! Maybe we remind them too much of everything they're not and can never hope to be!

Bruce: You're wrong, Jay.]

Started reading this comic bc of Captain Marvel (this is the one where he gets framed for murder), but I was caught by this little argument between Bruce and Jason after the latter was caught in a mob that was being influenced by G. Gordon Godfrey into a riot and then injured.

Jason changes his mind and saves the day later, of course, but I wonder what the Red Hood would think of it looking back.

Billy has this really nice moment later:

Guy echoes Jason's earlier concerns and Billy kinda rebukes him here.

Idk if I'd call the whole "kids can't be convinced that heroes aren't needed and that's why Darkseid's plan is doomed to fail" etc thing the best writing ever but I've definitely seen worse and more obnoxious around.

And then Justice League International is founded and Wonder Woman does a Batman where she leaves without them noticing and all of the heroes present sigh wistfully and goes, "She's such a badass." All is right in the universe.

I also get psychic damage from seeing comics!President Ronald Reagan and Superman interact amicably throughout the whole run.

#dc #liveblogging #jason todd #bruce wayne #billy batson #i wouldn't say this comic is good but i also wouldn’t say i had a bad time exactly #although i skipped some of the first issue bc i wasn't really interested in cosmic boy or whatever #sorry dude. im sure you're real interesting but uhh. yeah

[yjwhatif]

Silly little headcanon I have : Bart knows some slurs in the Reach language. It happened because, when he was put to work as a slave, the Reach would have a sort of translator to talk in the same language as the humans but they often switched to their own language, taking advantage of the fact the slaves could not understand what they were saying . Bart has identified some words without knowing their meaning. By the way, I love your blog, I found your speculations very well-thought.

I absolutely LOVE this headcanon Anon! I can totally picture him saying the slurs under his breath - like at G. Gordon Godfrey if one of his broadcasts comes on the tv, and Jaime, being able to actually understand, is like - “dude, do you even know what you just said?” No matter what, if Jaime is in hearing distance of the comments he will always have some sort of reaction on his face, depending on the situation they’re in, he might snigger or smirk or even give Bart a reprimanding glare at hearing the secret remarks. Other team members may not know what Bart is saying but, for those who know to look, they can usually gauge how bad it is from Jaimes reactions. Finally, if Bart and Jaime ever have a disagreement, there has definitely been a time when Bart instinctively says something rude under his breath and Jaimes like - “I heard that!” To which Bart just responds with “Damn it!” There’s a lot of fun to be had with this headcanon - thanks for sharing it!

Also I’m so happy to hear you like the blog, I’ve been feeling a little low recently and this has lifted me right up - so thank you for that too, I really appreciate it! 🥰

LB

#this came right when I needed it! #thanks anon! #ask box #my response #young justice #yj #bart allen #jaime reyes #blue beetle

[me-myself-and-my-fos]

okay but thinking about Guy hearing me snort laugh for the first time. It’s when I first joined the League, two days after I graduated high school, fresh faced 18 year old kid who’s joining the big Leagues. At this point he still sees me as Jordan’s annoying kid. He teases me for my snort laugh and brings it up whenever possible to get me mad

Then I kick his ass two years later. It’s when he first starts to realize I’m not a kid anymore. It’s when he starts to fall for me. He now thinks my laugh is cute and tries to say or do things to get me to snort laugh. He can’t admit it but it’s the reason

Then we start dating. Spending time together, staying the night at each other’s apartments. We’re watching late night tv, making fun of G Gordon Godfrey, and Guy says something funny. And he expects a snort laugh from me, but instead he hears a cackle, high pitched and like a hyena. I’m crying and he’s never seen or heard me laugh so hard, and that’s when it hits him

It’s my real, unfiltered laugh, the one I do with only the people I’m completely comfortable with

#otp: You’re insufferable

[lonelywretchjervistetch]

My DC Cinematic Universe: Superman (Part VII)

Chapter Seven: A Dangerous Future

Before I get to the main focus of this post, let me mention something about my treatment of the DCU. The beginnings of this cinematic universe (and yes, I do mean cinematic universe) should be centered around the Trinity. That would be Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman. Zack Snyder sort of knew this, having all three team up in Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice Ultimate Edition in Black-and-White-and-Color featuring Wonder Woman too...the Movie. God, it's still a dumbass title.

The difference is, each member of the Trinity should bring in a different element of the DC Universe, acting as a gateway to something bigger. Now, unlike the MCU, this cinematic universe isn't going to be obsessed with cameos and connections between films. BUT, it will still be an interconnected universe regardless. So, to open up our universe, we'll need to open a few doors.

Batman opens the doors to street crime and the down-to-Earth threats of this Earth. This includes metahumans, crazed maniacs and lunatics, and all the stuff that's primarily confined to Earthly science. It's basically the stuff that Batman would deal with on an everyday basis, from the Joker to Ra's al Ghul, and beyond. This could also act as a gateway to introduce characters like Green Arrow, the Atom, and even Flash. All are either street crime-focused vigilantes, or scientific experiments gone right.

Wonder Woman serves as our gateway to the magical and mystical. As a child of magic, Diana of Themyscira is the natural pathway to the powerful forces that can't be explained by science. Her villains are largely god-based or magical, and her powers literally come from the Greek gods. Because of that, she's at the beginning of the road that leads to Shazam, Doctor Fate, and weirdly enough, Aquaman. I mean...Greek Amazon princess, Atlantis, c'mon. That one should've been obvious. Others will follow, of course, but Wonder Woman should be the launching point.

But then, there's Superman. And if you haven't guessed already...

Superman is, unsurprisingly, the gateway to space and the cosmic.

I mean, he's an alien. It only makes sense that the presence of an alien on Earth would lead to more aliens, at least thematically. Now that said, the way I'm going about this begins with this first movie, but this gateway opens up possibilities for the Green Lantern Corps, Hawkman, and Martian Manhunter. I may go into those connections in a couple of essays, but just know that those characters will enter through this road, amongst others.

The question of this film's villains, though, still goes unanswered. And that's probably because choosing villains for a Superman film seems to be a weak point for movies. They've basically stuck to only two comic book villains throughout the character's film history, those villains being General Zod and Lex Luthor. Which is, in my opinion, boring as shit. But it's also somewhat understandable. Luthor is sort of a given; he's the archenemy of Superman, after all. But Zod is there because only a Kryptonian can challenge a Kryptonian. Which I'm going to prove wrong, but it hits upon a point. This is, arguably, the origin of the "villain-who's-a-reverse-of-the-hero" trope. And again...boring. But the problem remains; how do you threaten a character as powerful as Superman? Well, as always, there's a McGuffin-esque answer for that.

Kryptonite: The Easy Way Out

Look. I know. I know. It's Kryptonite, the ultimate McGuffin. Originally introduced in a radio show of all things, Kryptonite was the easy weakness for an all-powerful character. It's so ubiquitous that the word "Kryptonite" is now a colloquial term that means "a specific weakness". It's literally entered the American vernacular. So why use it AGAIN? Literally almost every Superman movie, EXCEPT for Man of Steel, has used it. It was a major McGuffin in Smallville, and everybody and their mother seems to have Kryptonite. But even then, I'm still going to use it. Because it's not about what you use; it's about how you use it. And in this case, it's also about where it comes from.

Normally, Kryptonite somehow arrives on Earth with Clark, which is...kinda dumb and unrealistic, not gonna lie. I'll give Synder a tiny bit of credit and say that his origin for Kryptonite makes a little more sense, in that it was in the ships brought by the Kryptonians. Somehow? OK, it doesn't make THAT much sense, but still. So, when bringing in Kryptonite, we have to think about who gets it, and WHERE it's coming from in the first place.

It's also worth mentioning that, while Kryptonite is usually an acid green in color, there's a veritable rainbow of Kryptonite colors. Smallville took full advantage of this, introducing anger-inducing Red Kryptonite (which actually causes random and unpredictable effects in the comics, but this change is forgivable), power-removing Blue Kryptonite, lethal Gold Kryptonite, paranoia-inducing Silver Kryptonite, and good-evil half-splitting Black Kryptonite. I should also probably mention that some versions are...confusing.

In the comics, you have random Red, harmless Blue, power-stripping Gold, plant-killing White...gay-inducing Pink...OK, look, we need to fucking STOP. There's a fucking turquoise Kryptonite that has the same powers as Green Kryptonite, except it's just kinda bluish. Also, lemme just go back and point out that there was a Kryptonite that MAKES KRYPTONIANS GAY, and it was EXACTLY as offensive as you think it was. I'll give the oft-forgotten and unappreciated Justice League Action credit: it made Kryptonite kinda silly, but also changed up and added some varieties, making Orange confusion-inducing, and making Pink gender-swapping. Watch the short, it's cute.

But regardless of these weird varieties, the origin is usually in space or somehow buried within the Earth itself. But for this film, I'm using Kryptonite as a bridge to somebody else. And so, FINALLY...

Intergang: Cosmic Networking

Lemme just start this is a big ol' FUCK YOU to Black Adam. One, it was a bad movie that came about 15 years too late to be considered half-decent. And second, they used Intergang as their villains before I made this post. Oh, and they used them very badly. Intergang in Black Adam was an international gang with futuristic weapons and vehicles and no substance to them at all. In the comics, Intergang is surprisingly complicated. But rather than go into too much complex comic book history...again, I'm going to start with how I'm presenting Intergang.

Intergang, understand, is sort of a blank slate. While there is ONE extremely important thing to maintain about Intergang, you really can do a lot with the group, from a creative standpoint. Black Adam, of course, did the bare minimum with this group, making them international mercenaries with weapons. Ooh. Fun. No, instead, my version of Intergang is mostly centered in the United States, hopping from city to city in order to avoid being caught. Primarily weapons smugglers, they can be linked to a number of gang and organized crime organizations throughout their history, first appearing in the 1920s, in Metropolis.

But recently, Intergang has become more than the usually competent Metropolis PD can handle. As I mentioned in the last entry of this series, Lex Luthor has been secretly supplying the streets with advanced prototype weapons, and their manufacturers are able to increase their power, in an effort to take on the MPD and Superman. But then, the leader of Intergang, Bruno "Ugly" Manheim is approached by someone who offers him something...new. And his name...is Gordon Crown.

By this point in the film, Crown will already be known. A political pundit and candidate for Senator, Crown is an outspoken critic of the city's government, pledging to push for police militarization, decrying increased crime and homelessness, and actively rallying against Superman and other vigilantes. He won't be particularly likeable, but will also have a building following. This means that Superman will face a bit of public opposition that he needs to overcome, while also facing the crimes of Intergang. And BOTH are Crown's fault.

See, Crown's real name is Glorious Godfrey, and he's a member of the New Gods of Apokolips. As the god of persuasion, his mortal form manifested as Gordon Crown, with the purpose of sowing dissent on this planet in order to discover the Anti-Life Equation which his master, Darkseid, desires. Yeah. I'm starting this RIGHT FUCKING NOW. None of this is known until the very end, but Godfrey's been reporting to Darkseid directly. Since Superman's appearance, he's managed to continue his work, but it's been more difficult. So, the Kryptonian needs to go. But how do you destroy the indestructible? Well, after discovering that Superman is a Kryptonian, Godfrey's benefactors travel to the former location of Krypton, and fetch what they believe to be Superman's weakness.

This is the key for helping Intergang take out Superman, sowing more despair and making the path to the Anti-Life Equation that much clearer. So, this plot point is introduced when Gordon Crown just waltzes into Intergang headquarters, as they're trying to figure out their next moves after a failed heist. Led by Bruno "Ugly" Manheim, the gang is in shambles. But in comes Crown, holding out a gift to help them take out Superman.

Obviously, Manheim is surprised by this, and asks why the head of the anti-crime brigade is trying to help them, and why he shouldn't just blackmail Crown and take the weird rock. Crown responds with green Kryptonite and green MONEY, and he basically pays Manheim to test the mineral in their weaponry. Manheim accepts, and brings in his second-in-command to take the crystal to their weapon manufacturers and test it out. This second-in-command is former soldier and international mercenary for Intergang, John Grant Corben. More on him later.

So, Clark gets into another fight with Intergang, who are now armed with Kryptonite weapons. To be specific, Corben is wearing an armored suit, with Kryptonite in the center of the chest. Corben is an excellent hand-to-hand combatant, and he's also looking forward to beating Superman down personally. And in this fight, two things happen. Firstly, Superman gets the absolute FUCK beaten out of him here. With Kryptonite significantly weakening him, he's actually very hurt here. Obviously, he won't die, since this isn't the final act fight, but more likely the end of the second act instead. Plus, we're planning on having this character live, so why pretend he's about to die? It's cliché, and extremely pointless in a Superman movie. And second, as fucked as Superman's going to be...John's gonna get it worse.

Now, the reasons for this would be up to action choreographers, but we're essentially going to paralyze John from the neck down, while also destroying a decent amount of property, and laying Superman partially to blame. Yeah, I'm repeating something from Man of Steel, but NOT making it Superman's fault. In fact, Clark will try his DAMNEDEST to save as many people as possible in this fight, while trying to lead it away from people. But Corben won't let him, and desperate blows from Clark in the process will cause Corben's injuries. It'll also provide a platform for Godfrey to sow more dissent against Superman and the city.

Y'know that scene in The Dark Knight, where Joker basically convinces Harvey to become Two-Face? Well, something similar is about to happen here as well. See, while Clark is being healed by his ship and discovering elements of his past (check Part IV for more on that front), Crown goes to the hospital to visit the injured from the attack, including Corben. And as you'd assume, Corben is under guard by the Metropolis PD, but he's easily able to talk his way into the room. Remember how I said that Crown is the God of Persuasion? Well, we get a glimpse of that here, as he seemingly Jedi mind-tricks his way into talking to Corben. Real Killgrave/Purple Man vibes here, it should be genuinely creepy.

Godfrey goes to Corben, who's unconscious. He places a pendant on his chest. We've seen this pendant before, as Godfrey's always wearing it when we see him. A pulse comes from the pendant, waking up the comatose Corben. It's then that he realizes the extent of his injuries, blaming Superman for his injuries (which isn't unjustified, to be fair). Godfrey offers him the opportunity to make up for his failure, and to get revenge on Superman. In the process, he'll also be able to walk again, and be more powerful than ever before.

And of course, Corben accepts. Shame he doesn't truly know WHAT he's accepting.

Metallo: The Metal Behind The Man

Metallo is maybe the best example of an earthbound villain who can pose a massive threat to the Man of Steel. His origins in the comics are varied, but usually involve a man in an accident whose brain was moved into a robotic, Kryptonite-powered body. He's always been one of my favorite Superman villains, and has never really been done well in live-action, in my opinion.

Don't get me wrong, now, because he has been in live-action, but always as different versions of the character. In Superboy, he was a bank robber with heart disease that was later turned into a Kryptonite-powered cyborg, similar to Corben's original incarnation. Lois & Clark did something similar, and gave us a pretty good turn on the character. Smallville gave us the most interesting and accurate version, giving us a war reporter that was experimented on after being hit by a truck. Granted, his change was caused by General Zod, but we're not gonna talk about that here.

But most recently, Supergirl actually gave us SIX incarnations of the character, starting with John Corben and ending with an alternate universe Lena Luthor. Which is crazy, but admittedly interesting. Funnily enough, the idea of multiple Metallos is something we've seen in the comics, but definitely dilutes the idea of John Corben as a vengeful android who hates Superman and wants him dead.

And yes, before you ask, of COURSE my favorite version of the character is from the DC Animated Universe. Played by the vastly underappreciated Malcolm McDowell, this Corben is a mercenary introduced in the season premiere, then brought back to fight Superman after being turned into Metallo by Lex Luthor. The episode The Way of All Flesh is genuinely one of my favorite episodes of that series, and that's saying something for me. He comes back later in the series, and in Justice League Unlimited, where he joins the Secret Society and is...mindwiped by Grodd, oooooooh. Well, in either case, I love Metallo, and making him a major villain for this movie makes sense to me.

So, again, in this theoretical movie, Corben accepts Godfrey's offer. When he does, Godfrey supplies him a body composed of Nth metal, and outfitted with a Kryptonite heart. Now that we know Kryptonite hurts Superman, Godfrey's been allowed to go all-in to try and kill Superman. So, armed with the Kryptonite heart, and backed up by intergang to lure Superman out, the newly crowned Metallo goes out to fight. Now, he still looks relatively normal, wearing a synthetic skin and able to change his size into a more compact form. Once the fight with Superman commences, Corben keeps the heart secret and takes the blows from Superman, seemingly testing his new body's toughness. But eventually, Superman figures it out, and stops holding back. This breaks the synthetic skin and gives Corben a more traditional robotic appearance. He rips off the skin, bulks up a bit, and the fight commences, this time in a place where people WON'T be hurt. Clark's learned by now, so he IMMEDIATELY moves the fight to a safer location.

And here...well, again, I'm not a fight choreographer. The only way for Superman to win here is to disconnect or destroy the Kryptonite heart, OR to somehow block the heart with lead and dismantle Corben, which WILL NOT kill him. Either way, this is the climactic fight of the film, so it's gonna be a biggie. In the end, of course, Superman will win the day...but not without a cost. The main goal here is to give an entertaining fight, while beginning a plot that will have much wider ramifications. Namely...

After Corben is defeated, Intergang comes soon after that. However, not only is Godfrey able to sow more dissent as a result (based on property damage, and also on the fact that Intergang was taken out due to more funding to the newly established Special Crimes Division), but there's also a way to take out Superman. In an after-credits scene, Godfrey reports to his master, Darkseid, and the plot is laid out in the ending scene. Because, as much as I would love Superman's main villain to be Darkseid in his third movie...he's a Justice League villain. He really is. So, we'll be setting up Darkseid in the Superman movies, with Godfrey acting as his hand on Earth, sowing dissent for his arrival. But Darkseid...Darkseid will be talked about in another essay series. Because that's a WHOLE different bag of cats.

But that's not the only thing we're setting up in the end. In the last entry, I mentioned that Lex will obtain the Kryptonite somehow. Well, of course, Godfrey will find a way to get the Kryptonite to Luthor, allowing him to set-up the next stage of this series. With Intergang mostly taken out (although they will reappear eventually), Godfrey sees Luthor as another opportunity to sow dissent and discord. And Luthor will be using the Kryptonite in experimentation to make a new series of threats: metahumans. And while this won't be really brought up in this movie, Luthor's team, Infinity, Inc., actually has another name entirely...the Superman Revenge Squad. And it's an excuse to FINALLY show some major Superman villains on the big screen. But I'll elaborate on that one... in the next essay.

Index: Superman

Part I: Why I Love Superman

Part II: On Lois Lane

Part III: The Kents

Part IV: The 'Rents

Part V: The...Frendts?

Part VI: Lex Luthor

Part VII: The Real Villains

Part VIII: Superman's Rogues Gallery

Part IX: The Story - Act One

Part X: The Story (Acts Two and Three)

Part XI: The Story - Climax

Part XII: Epilogue (Part One)

Part XIII: Epilogue (Part Two)

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[scotianostra]

March 26th 1697 saw Sir Godfrey McCulloch of Galloway lose his head on The Maiden.

A lesser Scottish noble, McCulloch was heir to a family that had seen better times. His forebears had built and laid their [attached] heads at cozy  Cardoness Castle, but hard times had seen the Gordon clan foreclose a McCulloch mortgage, and that put the families at pistols drawn.

A minor confrontation between Godfrey McCulloch and Sir William Gordon saw McCulloch plant in Gordon’s leg a bullet wound that festered into a fatal infection.

The charge against him read:

You [Sir Godfrey] did most maliciously and wickedly and out of long precogtat malice upon the second day of October or ane or other days of that month or of the September preceding in the year sixteen hundred and nyntie years goe to the house of the deceast William Gordone of Cairdeness who at that time lived in the Bush of Beele and having caused call the said William Gordone to come furth and speak to a man that waited for him the said William at the time in his own house making ready to go to sermon which was at that day at the kirk of Anwith and not apprehending the least hurt or mischeiffe offered to goe furth and came towards the gate where and when you, the said Sir Godfrey, did shoot at him with a gunn charged and by the shott broke his thighbone and leg and also wounded him in other parts of his body, soe that he immediately fell to the ground and within a few hours thereafter dyed of the said shott and wounds and farder, you was so barbarous and inhumane in perpetuating the sais slaughter that you insulted over the said William fallen as said is saying Now dog I have got myself avenged of you; and you discharged any from lifting him up but ordered and commanded such as were there to dryve the nolt over the dog as you wickedly called him.

McCulloch fled to the continent, but eventually — there’s no place like home — returned, and was recognised in Edinburgh.

One boring scaffold speech later, and that was that … unless you credit the legend that his headless body sprang up and ran 100 yards. McCulloch was beheaded on the Maiden, a guillotine precursor that automated the chopping process.

Pics are of the execution device, now in The National Museum of Scotland and the Clan McCulloch coat of Arms.

If you want to know more about the feud and McCulloch you can read the whole story titled A Wild Scot of Galloway - Sir Godfrey McCulloch at the link below. http://www.kirkcudbright.co/historyarticle.asp?ID=283&p=1&g=5

#scotland #scottish #execution #nobility #edinburgh #history

[dcuninterrupted]

Characters to expect coming up in Justice League International #7, out July 20th!

Power Girl (Karen Starr)

Black Adam (Teth-Adam)

Blue Beetle (Jaime Reyes)

Midrab (Sooraya Sadar)

Maxwell Lord

B3 (Vera Lee)

Pawn (James Bern)

Martian Manhunter (J’onn J’onzz)

Starfire (Koriand’r)

Troia (Donna Troy)

The Flash (Wally West)

Nightwing (Dick Grayson)

Raven (Rachel Roth)

Changeling (Garfield Logan)

Tempest (Garth of Shayeris)

Cyborg (Victor Stone)

Booster Gold (Michael Jon Carter)

Fire (Beatriz da Costa)

Rocket Red (Gavril Ivanovich)

Ice (Tora Olafsdotter)

Captain Atom (Nate Adam)

Green Lantern (Guy Gardner)

Superman (Clark Kent)

Creeper (Jack Ryder)

G. Gordon Godfrey

#Lineups #DC Uninterrupted #justice league international #Karen Starr #Power Girl #Black Adam #Teth Adam #Blue Beetle #Jaime Reyes #Midrab #Sooraya Sadar #Max Lord #Vera Lee #James Bern #Martian Manhunter #J'onn J'onzz #Starfire #Koriand'r #Troia #Donna Troy #The Flash #Wally West #Nightwing #Dick Grayson #Raven #Rachel Roth #Changeling #Garfield Logan #Tempest #Garth of Shayeris

[the-antiapocalyptic-man]

Is there a headverse version of Godfrey?

Glorious G. Gordon Godfrey? You betcha

Once the Apokolips' New God of Propaganda, Godfrey initially arrived on Earth as a messenger of Uxas Darkseid, working to subvert the populations of Earth through news media. Eventually, he found a stronger weapon: religion. As Reverend Godfrey, G. was able to twist the love for God into the love for Darkseid, and for Anti-Life, preparing Earth for its subjugation by Apokolips.

Also, like, weirdly good at TikTok.

#dc #headverse #anon #ask #glorious godfrey #new gods #apokolips

[kidflashimpulse]

it really does blow my mind how phantoms didn't touch on how bart going missing would WRECK the flashfam. they've lost wally AND joan in the past four years, you can't tell me the possibility of losing bart wouldn't shake them so fucking badly. i know this season didn't focus on bart or the flashfam, but they went over two weeks not knowing if he was ALIVE, and we don't get to see any of it beyond the first few seconds of jay coming back to an empty house? seriously??? i feel cheated

SAME! honestly its ridiculous, like ik that some things go without saying and its a premise that YJ operates on quite a bit (which often I understand) but with Jays involvement in Rockets arc and Barts with the Legion, at least being shown something would've been nice.

Like, I get the impression that Greg and co feel that what they've shown with Jay coming back to an empty house and at the end Dinah revealing (very offhandedly lol) that hes going through mental difficulties speaks volumes to how he would've coped with Bart going missing especially with how they're not “the main characters” of Phantoms, but considering the ridiculously long Bug Love montage (no disrespect to Foragers they're cute but was that incredibly long exposé on their courtship necessary, lets be real, nah lol) or how they dedicated an ENTIRE episode to the Markovia plot which easily couldve been covered as a background thread of headlines throughout the season (without the need of abandoning all of the Halo/Brion/Fury scenes which would've taken up instead what, less than half an episodes worth of screen time instead), then honestly there was easily space for some indication of the mess that would've taken place with the Flash Fam, especially considering their history with YJ. (and whilst we r at it some proper outsiders plot too), so yeah its just wild that they didn't really touch further on the subject. 

If we by some force of nature do manage to get a Season 5, with the indication of Sanctuary plot being explored (a really messed up comics plot of Heroes in Crisis with huge potential but controversial execution largely involving Wally) then a lot of people are theorising that Jay would take on the role as (comic spoilers: skip to next paragraph if u don't wanna read ------------ Wally dying in the event or well something dramatically similar) and then Barry and Bart possibly being on the investigative/involved side of things (comic spoilers: skip to next paragraph if u don't wanna read ------------ turns out it was Wally who murdered a bunch of ppl, Flashpoint time travel stuff etc, u get the gist, though I am doubtful YJ would follow the exact premise, so they would loosely adapt some kind of alternative variation of the plot, especially considering speed force involvement) with the rest of the cast members too. 

Which leads to the premise that maybe they are setting up some kind of Flashfam plot for the next season, but I don't want to be the 100th broken record within the fandom (lol) where ppl theorise this every season lmfao, but who knows theres no harm in speculating/theorising/ coming up with stories. 

Entirely off topic but another way to gauge plots throughout the season is through voice actors, if one of the characters of the voice actors appears in an episode then theres a significantly higher chance their other characters would appear too. If we do manage to get a Season 5 where people think the fight with Apokolips/Darkseid will take a centre stage, then G Gordon Godfrey should appear quite a bit and he has the same voice actor as Flash in Outsiders, which would lead room to him being featured too. So...... who knows lol

#YJ Asks #bart allen #barry allen #wally west #Flash family #Flash Fam #young justice #yj #dc #young justice phantoms #impulse #kid flash #flash #jay garrick