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daryun · 2 months
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One thing about Arslan Senki is that we have a few characters who aren't Parsian.
So I am curious about Jaswant's reaction to this foreign county's mythology actually being bleeding true. (What kind of implications does this have for Shindhuran mythology?)
n'awwww Jimsa seems to have left the picture after chapter 123, I think this is the last we see of him and he had a horse packed and ready to go.
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I would love to have seen Jimsa also swearing at the gigantic Parsian Snake Monster. We'd be learning so much colourful Turanian.
In terms of our heroes in chapter 126
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I really need to see Daryun's reaction. I need to know for legal reasons if he is the "If it's real I can kill it, obvs" or if he needs to overcome a "holy shit" moment.
I will patiently be waiting for chapter 127, it's bound to be a good one.
(The downside to this version of the story is there will be no Daryun catching Alfreed on Mt Damavand during an earthquake moment, unless that comes later? I just love him looking out for her)
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tired-reader-writer · 1 month
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Arslan Senki Reread
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Some Elam appreciation! Narsus looks like a proud dad.
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Arslan is so excited he's literally jumping at the chance to spoil Elam, lol. What a good bean.
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Good panel!
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Dorks.
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Azrael looks so proud. I swear this bird understands it's being praised 😭
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It's the reason Kishward couldn't/didn't choose to come with Arslan, after all. The conflict of loyalty/duty. Daryun does realize that.
Makes me wonder why Narsus chose to go with Arslan's wishes here. What did he seek to gain?
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Zaravant: *all puffed up and excited for the honor*
Jimsa: ...weirdo.
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Things I liked here:
Merlaine standing where everyone else is kneeling
The peeps leaning back to stare.
Arslan's lil “please?”
Merlaine folding immediately (so much for your tough act, boy)
Like,
Not even a “fine, I'll do it” or “sure” he says “As you wish.” politely? His speech bubble is shaky? Adorable.
Am I reading too much into it because it's my ship? Possibly, but I don't care. I like this ship, therefore I will overanalyze it.
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dresdencodak · 1 year
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MFW someone’s talking about The Heroic Legend of Arslan but it’s not the 90s OVA:
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ladies-of-fiction · 7 months
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Farangis
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So, uh...
Fellt a little silly today and thought I share some of my "Funny Dialoug Prompts with my Characters" with yall. (Will contain new ocs.)
Credits to the rightfull owners, who came up with most of these!
Azar: “I’m surrounded by idiots.” Gieve: “But at least we’re hot!” Arslan: *skeptical* “Are we?”
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Farangis: “You hurt?” *leaning forward* Azar: *sitting on the ground* “No. I normally spurt blood from my rib cage.” Farangis: “You seem to be just fine.” *walks away* Azar: “Help me up at least!”
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Azar: “Do you think-” Narsus: “All the time! I’m a good thinker, you know!” Azar: “Sometimes I think you don’t. Anyway-” *queue Narsus offended face and Daryun die laughing in the corner*
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Farah: “You’re … alive…” Azar: “Great observation, genius.” Farah: “But, you were dead!” Azar: *spitting out blood* “Well luckily you really are a failure.”
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Gieve: *to Azar* Ten years of friendship and this is the treatment I get!” Azar: “I met you yesterday!”
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Chabik: “You know, I really feel like we aren’t seeing eye to eye.” Mehrin: “It’s because you’re taller than me, asshole.”
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Aleksi: “You know, I may be an idiot…” Arslan: “...but?” Aleksi: “No ‘but’, that was it.”
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Mehrin: “... Just to be sure we’re on the same page.” Vahriz: “Page? We’re not even in the same library!”
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(this was made by me) Gieve: “You wished you’d be like me~” Azar: “No, I don’t.” Gieve: *with a cocky smile* “Why not? I’m lovely~” Azar: *deadpan*  “If I’d ever be like you, I’d be six feet underground by now.”
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Daryun: *gently taps table* Narsus: *taps back* Jaswant: “What are they doing?” Azar: “Morse code.” Daryun: *aggressively taps table* Narsus: *slams hands down* “YOU TAKE THAT BACK-!”
BONUS:
From a discord conversation with my friends (translated) Friend A: *talking to their roommate* "Close the door, that will be better. Me: *thinking he was talking to me* "But… my door is already closed." Friend B: "Close it further. " Double Bonus: Friend A: "I was not talking to you, you Idiots!"
Tell me if you want more! (and @tired-reader-writer, you wrote that you are not feeling well. Hope this brightens your day a little!)
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innerchorus · 5 months
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Hello! I understand that you may not know Japanese well, but I know that you know the Legend of Arslan well. What do you think Tanaka said here about Farangis and Giwa? Did he also talk there about “16 wings” and about the fact that “Each of them knows his own body completely”? What? Unclear. I would like to know what you think, as well as perhaps those who know Japanese. Here is the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XJxgAD7R-s
(For reference, the video link is the final Wright Staff interview with Tanaka where he discussed the relationship between Gieve and Farangis.)
I'm gonna go right ahead and say I really don't know Japanese at all, I've never studied it and without OCR/machine translation etc I can only really pick out the odd word! The automatic closed caption translation on this video wasn't clear at all, though I had slightly better luck extracting the Japanese captions and looking at those. Just be aware that I may make some errors!
Regarding what Tanaka had to say about Gieve and Farangis, after teasing us with the title of the video he didn't really say anything new about their relationship. Essentially, he said that he left the nature of their relationship ambiguous, and left it for readers to decide for themselves. Some people may think that the two of them were never together right up to the end, while others may think there was actually something between them.
As far as I can tell, the line about the 16 generals refers to the fact that other than Farangis and Gieve, the rest of them are well known (in terms of their origins, history etc, whereas for Gieve and Farangis there's a bit of mystery about their lives before meeting Arslan, though we do learn a little bit about Farangis's backstory later).
The most interesting (and kinda sad) tidbit of information that came out of this video was the fact that Tanaka said Arslan longed for love (アルスラーンなんかのはもう子供の恋愛時代に憧れてるようなそういう for anyone who wants to translate that bit, looks like Tanaka said that someone like Arslan already seemed to long for love/romance in childhood).
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choujinx · 1 month
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ARSLAN SENKI (2013-?) by arakawa hiromu
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jdnemesis2 · 1 year
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Arslan senki characters
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makerofmadness · 3 months
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I'm still back
with a vengeance (uh link to the post where I actually came back)
(Linking 'Cus I'm not putting a block of text here explaining everything I'm doing differently from my translation posts before a second time dnndndndnd)
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Less than the other post because I'm hoping that I can do more in a week when I see my parents again in person. (I texted these to my maman [except for the two without dialogue] and she fixed Olive, Icicle Yeti and Herb's but I got the others right by myself she said :3)
I'm not gonna put the romanization under the cut this time 'Cus it's not long enough to warrant it I think? If anyone asks me to I will:
*Wizard Cookie: بیسکویت جادوگر (biskwit jaadoogar)
*Strawberry Cookie: بیسکویت توت فرنگی (biskwit toot farangi)
*Olive Cookie: بیسکویت زیتون (biskwit zeytoon)
«!در انتظار آثار باستانی» ("dar entezaar asaar baastaani!")
*Silverbell Cookie: بیسکویت زنگ نقره (biskwit zang noghreh)
«!...یک روزی ما همه خوشحال خواهیم شد» ("yek roozi maa hameh khoshhal khaahim shod...!")
*Pomegranate Cookie: بیسکویت انار (biskwit anaar)
«!برای اربابم» ("baraa-ye arbaabam!")
*Icicle Yeti Cookie: بیسکویت یتی قندیل یخ (biskwit yeti ghandil yakh)
«خواستی با دوستم باش؟» ("khaasti baa doostam baash?")
*Herb Cookie: بیسکویت سبزی (biskwit sabzi)
«.سلام! به باغ من خوش آمدین» ("salaam! beh baagh man khoosh amadin.")
*Alchemist Cookie: بیسکویت کیمیاگر (biskwit kimiyaagar)
«!راهنمایی من را پیروی بکن» ("raahnamaayi man raa peyravi bekon!")
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Listen I know everyone on this site loves and adores Hiromu Arakawa for making fma, but I personally can NEVER forgive her for giving Arslan 0 drip and making Daryun ugly. And also making everyone super pale for some reason.
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gulducock · 2 years
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daryun · 2 years
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Has anyone ever read the script of OVAs? I have just found something interesting on the internet: 'spoiler In the Japanese version, they actually reveal that Farangis is supposed to marry Arislan and that Arislan isn't really royalty end spoilerOh! And then there's the screw up at the end of the first movie. In the English version, Andragoras dies and magically comes back to life (kind of like Stephano from Days of Our Lives. Is he still alive or did they finally just kill him?)'
Arslan Senki Spoilers regarding character backgrounds under the cut.
Hello!
(I found your blog post, too)
I have never read the 90's OVA as scripts, but I do watch the OVA every now again because I'm rather fond of it - both the sub and dub.
Is the English OVA dub cheesy? Most certainly.
Will I defend the stage actor delivery of every line? You bet on Daryun's shiny cloak clasp I will.
As far as I know, Farangis was sent to protect Arslan, which is expressed in the OVA, part I, around the 42 minute mark:
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The English dub mentions a holy warrior and how Farangis was chosen to be that warrior. So I wouldn't know where the whole marriage thing would come from just watching the OVA alone.
(Farangis' backstory is covered in this post)
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That Arslan is adopted and is not royalty by blood is worth looking at. Let's have a look what the OVA reveals to us without the context of any other Arslan Senki media.
(I already knew Arslan was adopted, but I'm not sure where I picked that up anymore. It was probably from the family tree in the Sachiko Kamimura artbook I bought, NOT from the OVA itself)
Admittedly, I first thought of part II when Bahman is killed, but the resulting conflict here is not that Arslan isn't of royal descent, but that Hilmes has a claim to the throne. The viewer is led to believe this is the narrative twist for a long time.
The English dub also just says "You musn't kill him, he is of royal blood."
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So I thought about part III, 11 minutes in. But even here, the conflict is still Hilmes being Arslan's older cousin, having a claim to the throne.
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The reason Gieve is sent to Mt. Damavand by Narsus is to find Rukhnabad not for Arslan's lineage, but just to strengthen his claim. Hilmes seeks out the sword for the same reason.
So where would a viewer in the 90's with not as much access to the world wide web as today get the info that Arslan is adopted?
There are hints that Arslan grew up outside of the palace with a nanny in his nightmare (part II, ca. 7 mins in), though I wouldn't call it conclusive.
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But up until the end of part VI, when Arslan gets banished to Gilan everyone is still acting within the parameters that Arslan is of royal blood.
I could not find evidence of Tahamineh asking for her child in the OVA, which is another clue given to readers of the manga or novel.
EDIT: FOUND IT, part I, minute 47.
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Dub: “Wait, Daryun, Daryun don’t do this, let me speak. If you know what’s good for you you’ll join us. Pulsa will soon have a new ruler, stong and clever, he’s already in Ectabahana. Once he has killed Andragoras he’ll marry the queen and be crowned king!“
~(Pulsa forevaaaaaaa)~
In conclusion: if the dub OVA is all you have, you will not automatically work out that Arslan is adopted.
EDIT: Similar to how Andragoras’ death was declared at the end of part I (see below), I think this change was made because they didn’t want to introduce this plot line in the dub and then never be able to deliver on it.
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"Andragoras III died of an illness, much to the disappointment of Hermes who could not carry out his vengeful threats" (end of part I, English dub)
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Regarding Andragoras being declared dead in the English OVA dub, I do not think this was a mistake. We have to look back at the time:
The first four parts were dubbed by a UK studio. Parts 5 and 6 were dubbed in the US.
I think it is reasonable to assume that only the frst four episodes were sold dubbing rights first and as a person in the 90's there was a high chance that if you caught this on a VHS tape, per chance on TV(?), or at anime conventions as a cinema experience, these four episodes were all you were ever going to see of the anime.
So I can only assume they wanted to wrap up the story as much as they could to give the overseas viewer with no other context of Arslan Senki's whole novel story a bit of closure.
That parts 5 and 6 were later dubbed must have been unknown at the time.
I'm afraid I'm not familiar with Stephano, I cannot help you with that one.
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Completely unrelated to everything: Guts, is that you? (from part VI)
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tired-reader-writer · 2 months
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Arslan Senki Reread
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Arslan is such a good bean. If he did have the raw power backing him to railroad the conflict into a mediation, I wonder what the result would've been.
I think it's more than just Arslan lacking the power, I don't see Andragoras and Hilmes accepting to lay their hands away from each other. Worst case scenario, Arslan dies in the middle anyways bc Assassination™. Both Narsus and Daryun are right here, Arslan himself lacks power, but also at this point neither Hilmes nor Andragoras are capable of backing off.
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Farangis' dialogue here is making me feel things, dammit. Do what you can. Do what's in your power. (It's very relevant to my Wolfpack AU.)
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Farangis comforting/gently advising Arslan, and then steps up to keep the project on track. She makes for a good sister-mentor figure. I love Narsus and Farangis' dynamic, her atrocious love advice aside.
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I see Alfarīd as someone who ultimately values life, who fights for life even as she is a bandit. Perhaps even because she is a bandit. Rather than having your life be snuffed out for/by an ungrateful liege or king (the Zott laugh at both country and king, they answer to no one but their own, as Merlaine said) so Estelle's stubborn loyalty must baffle her a lot. It's alien to her. (Arslan is different, he's a friend, as she says.) Rather than dying for the convenience of the ruling class who would never appreciate them, perhaps to her, staying alive in spite of their best efforts to snuff them out is a form of resistance. So she doesn't understand why, why Estelle is so willing to lay their life down for a tyrannical, genocidal maniac.
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The head jars.
Why yes, I cropped out the Bastard's face because I'm petty if nothing else.
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The sorcerers evading death from a blow that would've, should've, killed a human being.
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Saam is shaken. This is the first he's hearing of it, and he fears what this implies. What this implies for Hilmes. What's going on? What does he mean by benefactor? How is his prince tied to these unnatural beings? This can mean nothing good.
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Saam's speech bubble trembles with fear for Hilmes. And Hilmes, oh Hilmes, the red flags are so vivid they're a sea of blaring neon signs now. Nay, they're neon billboards. You say so yourself, the sorcerer here is doing something morally repugnant. Open your fucking eyes, this ain't good!
Also, does Hilmes' hair seem quite long here?
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Ohhh fuck you. Fuck you fuck you all the way to hell and never back. Saam was trying to protect Hilmes. And there's just something that hits so hard about that last panel. “Please believe me.” We know it wasn't Saam who said it out loud, of course, but the backdrop being a pitch black with no speaker, taken out of context it sounds like a plea and y'know, I'll bet Saam was pleading for Hilmes' faith in the deeps of his mind even if he doesn't speak it aloud. A tug-o-war, each needing Hilmes to believe in him.
I want to punt Hilmes in the sun for which side he chooses here.
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hazard100 · 1 year
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Day Two - Oger Omelette
Gojeggre is a creation of the Iron Bowl Clan, a group that immigrated from Iran with ties to Persian culture, which they share through their food. This dish of scrambled eggs cooked within a layer of tomato sauce is known to stare down opposing Mealsters to weaken their stance. They are a stern Mealster to face off against, especially if it’s a battle of willpower. Unfortunately, the Ivory Dish Company has been making moves to take the recipe from the Iron Bowl Clan, which has led them to isolate themselves to protect their culture from these scavengers.
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suhmayzooka · 1 year
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one of these days i’ll sit down and watch the 1991 arslan senki
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writergeekrhw · 1 year
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There's been a lot of talk over the years about whether Ferengi are a antisemitic stereotyoe. Given that DS9 had more Jewish actors and creative staff, what do you think of that discourse?
Was this something that was kept in mind when reinventing the Ferengi from how they were in TNG?
I can tell you the INTENTION of the Ferengi was to satirize capitalism and the West. Ferengi derives from the Persian "Farangi," i.e. Franks, people from France. More broadly, it came to mean "Western European." Hence "Farangistan" = Europe. Farang/i spread to other languages, notably Thai where it now means "foreigner."
Farang - Wikipedia
So, the Ferengi are intended to be us. Westerners, even more specifically Americans. The original TNG bible compares them to 18th and 19th century Yankee traders. Sexist and greedy, patriarchal and dishonest.
I'm pretty sure this was the intention of their look too, especially the noses. Big noses are common in Asian caricatures of Westerners. Check out the Thai sculpture in the link above. According to my father, for example, the Rhade tribe from the Vietnamese Highlands called Americans "big noses" and when he was their military advisor, he was Captain Big Nose.
And then TNG cast a ton of Jewish actors as early Ferengi, and a lot of people saw them completely differently. (Aside, I've heard from some Asian fans that they perceive Ferengi as caricatures of the Cantonese, which speaks to how different cultures see them.)
We were definitely aware of this issue when DS9 came along, and I largely followed the lead of our Jewish-American showrunners on how to handle it. Generally, by digging deep into three different main Ferengi characters and several recurring, I hope we transcended the stereotypes.
We showed Ferengi not as whip-wielding pirate/raiders (not a Jewish trope btw, see Yankee traders), but as a small business owner, a handyman/engineer, and an aspiring Starfleet officer, all struggling with issues of cultural assimilation and grappling with their own culture's shortcomings when it comes to women and greed.
When writing the Ferengi, I drew from my own (white bread, Catholic, Army brat) background, so for example, I saw the Rules of Acquisition not as some kind of take on the Talmud, but as a satire of Western self-help business books, a kind of "How to Win Friends and Influence People," meets "The Devil's Dictionary." The Ferengi afterlife is based on my vague understanding of Chinese traditions I grew up around in San Francisco, etc.
I'm not sure we fully separated the Ferengi from the baggage they came to us with, but we definitely tried.
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