clips from an episode of strange new worlds, edited with audio from deep space nine.
The camera focuses on T’Prill, T’Pring’s mother as she speaks, but instead of her voice it’s Zek, the Farengi leader from Star Trek deep space nine. He says: “I predict a big future for you Pel, you certainly have the lobes”
The camera then cuts to Spock and the voice of Pel says “so, you like my lobes?”
The camera briefly shows T’Pring, looking at Spock with confusion as Quark’s voice says “Pel?”
The camera then cuts back to T’Prill, and Zek’s voice says “yes, I do”
Finally the camera cuts back to Spock who takes off his fake Vulcan ears as Pel’s voice says “good! Then you can have them!” The voices of Zek and Rom can be heard screaming as he does this.]
ds9 art dump but its mostly lizard cardassians i have too much fun drawing them
garak inspired by this piece (pastel,gouache and pencils)
Textures experiment, empok nor garak, ate jam or smf!!
odo my beloved,,,, also i love gouache now i am a gouache stan, i not only discovered i can use it for character painting but i also drank half a cup of gouache water becore i caught on its not my drinking water
((funny taste mustve been a regional thing))
feeling emotional about Ferengi death rituals...like yes it's a joke about capitalism blah blah blah but of course a culture that values business and commerce would see selling their remains as the greatest respect you could give a loved one. the fact that they have a certain number of disks they use for the remains is also very interesting and suggests 52 is a number of significance to Ferengi religion.
given Rom's attempt to buy all of Quark's remains I imagine lesser known Ferengi still sell their remains after death. I imagine the custom in Ferengi families is to buy a disk of a loved one after death and it's probably a faux pas not to, sorta like bringing flowers or meals to funerals.
ALSO Ferengi women don't have latinum and thus can't buy disks of their own loved ones. how fucked up would it be to lose someone and be unable to partake in the grief customs of your culture, knowing that the same thing will happen upon your own passing? idk man the aliens with the weird heads are making me sad again
There's been a lot of talk over the years about whether Ferengi are a antisemitic stereotyoe. Given that DS9 had more Jewish actors and creative staff, what do you think of that discourse?
Was this something that was kept in mind when reinventing the Ferengi from how they were in TNG?
I can tell you the INTENTION of the Ferengi was to satirize capitalism and the West. Ferengi derives from the Persian "Farangi," i.e. Franks, people from France. More broadly, it came to mean "Western European." Hence "Farangistan" = Europe. Farang/i spread to other languages, notably Thai where it now means "foreigner."
Farang - Wikipedia
So, the Ferengi are intended to be us. Westerners, even more specifically Americans. The original TNG bible compares them to 18th and 19th century Yankee traders. Sexist and greedy, patriarchal and dishonest.
I'm pretty sure this was the intention of their look too, especially the noses. Big noses are common in Asian caricatures of Westerners. Check out the Thai sculpture in the link above. According to my father, for example, the Rhade tribe from the Vietnamese Highlands called Americans "big noses" and when he was their military advisor, he was Captain Big Nose.
And then TNG cast a ton of Jewish actors as early Ferengi, and a lot of people saw them completely differently. (Aside, I've heard from some Asian fans that they perceive Ferengi as caricatures of the Cantonese, which speaks to how different cultures see them.)
We were definitely aware of this issue when DS9 came along, and I largely followed the lead of our Jewish-American showrunners on how to handle it. Generally, by digging deep into three different main Ferengi characters and several recurring, I hope we transcended the stereotypes.
We showed Ferengi not as whip-wielding pirate/raiders (not a Jewish trope btw, see Yankee traders), but as a small business owner, a handyman/engineer, and an aspiring Starfleet officer, all struggling with issues of cultural assimilation and grappling with their own culture's shortcomings when it comes to women and greed.
When writing the Ferengi, I drew from my own (white bread, Catholic, Army brat) background, so for example, I saw the Rules of Acquisition not as some kind of take on the Talmud, but as a satire of Western self-help business books, a kind of "How to Win Friends and Influence People," meets "The Devil's Dictionary." The Ferengi afterlife is based on my vague understanding of Chinese traditions I grew up around in San Francisco, etc.
I'm not sure we fully separated the Ferengi from the baggage they came to us with, but we definitely tried.