#And ignoring his other victims?”

[flurriethefox]

Okay I know it’s super cliche and shit but I love the “this guy bullies this person cuz they love them” trope. Just like, “oh shit this guy is a bitch I don’t wanna fuck with them” while the other is like “did they find that cool? Intimidating? Am I doing this right why am I panicking what do I do” It’s delicious.

Now shove my blorbo in there somewhere and whatever comes out I shall put on my gravestone.

#fnf agoti #tropes #wouod this be considered whump? #I’m putting the tag anyway just in case #whump #but like fr. You can pry this trope from my cold dead fully decayed skeletal hands. You can even revive me just to kill me again and I- #won’t let go #fnf #friday night funkin #and I like to imagine Agoti as the bully and Tabi or Ayana as his victim #And he’s just like “hehe you suck” around them and alone he’s like “please tell me I’m doing this right idk how to do romance” #and everyone else is super confused like “yeah he’s usually a bully but why is he giving this one specific person so much attention- #And ignoring his other victims?” #if you couldn’t tell I’m in a phase rn #also kind of caused by the fact that I’m 95% sure I’ve got a gf :D #Please excuse me if I say this a lot I’m just very excited especially since this is my first (mostly) official relationship

[wylanslcve]

We all talk about how Wylan was abused by his father, but what I don’t see a lot of people talking about is how J*n didn’t even allow his son to grieve his mother’s loss. At that age, Wylan probably would have only started to grasp the concept of death, and he also needed time to process and grieve Marya’s finality - and J*n wouldn’t let him do either. And to make matters worse, Wylan needed his father there for him during that time and instead J*n just gave up on him. He wouldn't even let Wylan talk about his mother and instead expected him to simply suppress his grief because "it didn’t pay to dwell on the past". This would have done just as much emotional and mental damage to Wylan as his father’s abuse and I don’t know why more people aren’t talking about it.

#there’s so much about wylan that the fandom just ignores #and this one is no exception #“his trauma isn’t as bad as the other crows’" say that again i dare you #as if being an abuse victim isn’t traumatic #wylan deserves better #wylan my beloved #wylan van eck #wylan hendricks #six of crows #crooked kingdom #grishaverse #shadow and bone #six of crows spin off #shadow and bone season three #jack wolfe #leigh bardugo #sab cast #kaz brekker #inej ghafa #jesper fahey #nina zenik #matthias helvar

[bonebabbles]

I keep starting and abandoning posts that go into my drafts, as I try to stay tasteful about how fucking revolted this part makes me. Like, I'm legitimately unsure if the very relevant trauma I have is making me see things that aren't here

But first we see that Star Flower is trying to ingratiate herself to the group, just after she reappears from chapter 5. Chapter 5 is about how Clear Sky is still abusive towards his son, and she comes in after stroking his ego, stressing how alone she is, and appealing to how she'll be loyal unlike his child. (She glances over at Thunder, directly implying this.)

Now in Chapter 9, she's babysitting and trying to care for Milkweed's kits (in spite of discomfort from Milkweed), taking a wet sleeping space away from the others, and pulling more than her own weight "without complaint." Putting herself through harsh sitations to prove her worth.

All while trying to appear extra attractive to Thunder, and later Clear Sky. Basically every man in power who can "protect her"

Like, am I going fucking crazy? With how we later find out that Star Flower was "promised as a mate" to One Eye's subordinate Slash, is... is that hypersexualization? One of the extremely stigmatized symptoms of sexual abuse?

She goes to find Clear Sky alone to throw herself at his paws, and he's very quickly attracted to how she promises to perfectly obey him, have no needs of her own, and finally be the perfect servant that he desires

"I don't deserve your trust because I am dirt. I understand you because I also regret something. I'd die for you. I'll never betray you unlike those who have."

This isn't manipulation. She means this. The story is playing their romance sincerely. She's comparing "betraying" Thunder by telling her own father about an assassination ambush to Clear Sky's history of child abuse, physical assault, and murder

She believes she's on the same level as this; a monster who murdered a childhood friend in a fit of entitled rage. She was a victim of One Eye who really believes that the way her father used her means she "understands" this monster, deserves this treatment.

And Clear Sky LIKES that.

He likes that she will have COMPLETE FAITH in him. That she will follow him WITHOUT QUESTION. That she will OBEY his orders. That's fucking verbatim, that's THE TEXT!!!

WHILE HE'S STILL CRYING ABOUT "ive tried to atone every day" FOLLOWING THE LAST TWO BOOKS WHERE THE ONLY SHITTY THING HE DOESN'T DO IS MURDER INNOCENT WOMEN

Am I insane?? Am I wrong??? Am I missing something here???? Why the fuck is the fandom takeaway "haha sexy girl steals his dad." Did I read the same book

#Csa mention #Did they once again do a misogyny so hard they accidentally gave their woman character trauma #My tip to anyone in a draining relationship. If your partner fetishizes that YOU would never leave or betray them unlike ''all the others'' #RUN. #There may be a reason their exes cut ties with them and they're praising you for ignoring red flags #Especially when your partner is significantly older and more experienced #Theres nothing noble about constantly suffering for the sake of 'loyalty' #Star Flower PLEASE get out of here you dont fucking deserve this you did nothing wrong #Bones reads dotc #Dotc hate #I thought i was just remembering things wrong when i was adding the subtheme of thunder having a connection to star via abusive dads- #-in my dotc rewrite. But no it's right there. It's in the text and it's something clear is attracted to #I abuse the shit out of my son and he left me once over it #But i can abuse this girl his same age and she won't run. Finally! A victim who won't leave! #And then they become mates and she births at least two litters #Cw abuse #sa mention #EDIT: I've changed the language just slightly #because the timeline COULD work out that starf was an adult when she was promised to slash for a very brief window of time #and hypersexualization is a symptom of trauma resulting from many types of sex abuse. Even that done when the victim was an adult. #it's just more common in CSA

[lord-squiggletits]

unpopular opinions meme: anything on Earthspark?

(Haven't watched Season 1 part two yet so take this with a grain of salt)

I avoid looking at fandom tags generally since I tend to not like a lot of popular takes in general, but people's takes about Optimus being brainwashed/shadowplayed/replaced by a clone in Earthspark really annoy me because it demonstrates a couple troublesome things about self-professed Optimus fans (or anyone really interested in OP in general):

People can't handle the fact that Optimus might make mistakes

Because of this, they then rush to remove agency from him (to make the bad things that happen not his fault)

In doing this, they completely erase, downplay, or even lambast as flaws the very traits that make Optimus who he is.

To take this from the top, Optimus "freedom is the right of all sentient beings" is, and has always been, a person who cares deeply about the rights of other species. This is a trait he's had in EVERY continuity: he values all lives, even small and fleeting ones, as equal to Cybertronian life, and he strives to protect uninvolved aliens from the horrific consequences of the Autobot-Decepticon war. This is one of his primary traits. This is a GOOD TRAIT OF HIS and it's LITERALLY ONE OF THE FUNDAMENTAL PARTS OF HIS PERSONALITY.

In Earthspark, we specifically hear Optimus say "we are guests on this planet" with regards to living peacefully alongside humans. GHOST is a suspicious organization and not only do we see this as the viewers, OPTIMUS HIMSELF acknowledges this by choosing to hide the Terrans from GHOST and openly saying that he doesn't know if GHOST is trustworthy, but it's currently the best option they have and he's trying to find another way.

Earthspark Optimus has no shortage of nuance. He's not a dunce; he acknowledges on multiple occasions that he doesn't completely trust GHOST, that he's willing to hide things from them, and that he would do something else to live peacefully with humans if he knew of a way to do so.

But the fandom seems to get one whiff of anything "problematic" happening due to Optimus (not just Optimus, literally every Autobot and even Megatron collaborates with them too, but for some reason blame for working with GHOST only ever falls on Optimus) and they immediately jump to this bizarre headcanon they have that Optimus is a total idiot and couldn't possibly be aware of any negative consequences of working with GHOST. People seem to think that if anything bad happens because of Optimus working with GHOST, it HAS to be because he was literally brainwashed into working with them.

Optimus believing in the rights of all sentient beings? Optimus being willing to make compromises for the sake of other species besides his own? Optimus knowing that he's making morally gray choices/questionable allies and doing it anyways because he thinks it's his best option? Nope. Nope, clearly he has to be brainwashed or a clone or something.

It's really frustrating because people jump to this black-and-white view of Earthspark's plot where they're like, "GHOST is evil and this clearly means that Optimus is an idiot for even attempting to work with them." But like. What else is he supposed to do? Just let the Decepticons run around stealing from humans, damaging their property, and killing them? Is Optimus supposed to grab a random piece of human land and go "this is mine now, me and all my people are gonna live here now." That would be literal colonialism, and keep in mind that humans had nothing to do with the war to start with-- Earth is just the unfortunate planet that the war happened to land on, dragging humans into a Cybertronian conflict.

It's just.... so fucking frustrating as an Optimus fan lmao. It's gotten to the point that I don't even look at Optimus content made by other Optimus fans because too many of them have this idea that Optimus can't be a normal person who makes bad choices (knowingly or unknowingly), he has to be an eternal paragon of goodness and this means that in order for him to be Good (TM), he can't be responsible for anything Bad And Evil, which means that if anything Bad happens (inevitable in any plot involving conflict, drama, or conspiracy), we have to swoop and take away Optimus' culpability for the situation. Because having Optimus be responsible for bad things happening would make him Not The Perfect Good Guy, and if Optimus isn't The Perfect Good Guy then we don't care about him and we hate/ignore him (which is exactly what people do with IDW OP btw: throwing out a perfectly good/interesting character who's no more bad or good than anyone else in the story because Optimus Has To Be Good).

Another example of people taking away Optimus' agency is the all-too-common TFP/Aligned headcanon in which people like to say that the Matrix literally turned Orion into a different person, Optimus, therefore none of the decisions OP made as Prime were "actually him" and it was just Primus imposing his will on him or something. Really annoying! Ideas like this don't make Optimus any more interesting, they just make him a helpless victim to forces outside of his control who manipulate his every action!

TLDR: Earthspark Optimus is fine actually, people just refuse to take his perspective and instead default to "Optimus is stupid/brainwashed for working with GHOST" instead of coming to the rational conclusion that maybe OP is doing the best he can in a bad situation.

#squiggle answers #i've made posts about this before but have i mentioned to you how much i fucking hate people who headcanon OP like he's an idiot #optimus isn't fucking dumb he isn't ignorant he just makes bad decisions like every other person #or not even bad decisions. just the least bad decision out of a bunch of bad decisions #like why do you have to headcanon earthspark optimus as brainwashed (boring- makes him a victim- takes away his agency) #when there's a much more interesting personality and story to be seen in the perspective of #'he knows that his decisions could cause harm and he did what he did because of his sense of ethics and responsibility' #what is it with this fandom's aversion to having optimus be responsible for bad things happening #news flash: characters being responsible for bad things is what makes them INTERESTING because MAKING MISTAKES IS HUMAN #if you make a character who's eternally good and does no wrong and nothing is ever his fault you have a BORING CHARACTER

[littledead-ridinghood]

Saying Batman hits his kids and all his other abusive tendencies only exist because people want to use them as “tropes” to woobify his children is not like…the good take you think it is

It’s important to me that you all know that. It’s not actually bad, an ‘incorrect reading of the text’ or ‘only acknowledging bad writing’ when people want to talk about how Bruce’s actions can actually severely effect those around him.

It’s also important to me that you all know that while maybe a parent hitting their adult child may not count as child abuse because the child is no longer a kid, it does; however, still count as assault, battery, and can even be considered domestic abuse if their living or staying at the manor at the time it happens and is still very, very bad and not okay

#bruce wayne hate club #do I tag the side kicks? is this something i should antagonize? #sure I’ll tag the kids #bats + birds #dick grayson #cassandra cain #jason todd #tim drake #damian wayne #stephanie brown #<<<she’s not his kid but she was his sidekick and he treated her something awful #this next tag is going to be sooooooo petty and completely ignore the genre we’re engaging in but bare with me: #‘Batman isn’t a child abuser! he’d never hurt a child! he’s great with children victims! he was a hurt child who doesn’t want other hurt #children to turn into him’ #Batman does however commit battery and assault every single night so check mate he’s okay with that

[sysig]

You’re gonna die if you keep that up (Patreon)

#Doodles #SCII #Helix #ZEX #Kayako #And Teisel's there technically #*Die again - he's sticking with his track record lol at least he's consistent #Ghost/Curse GF arc!! I enjoy seeing ZEX happy but I am Concerned for him lol #ZEX be attracted to something/one that won't brutally murder him challenge - difficulty impossible #His affection for the grotesque and monstrous - I mean while it's admirable he does regularly put himself in dangerous situations! #Runs solely on the Suspension Bridge Effect lol - attraction and fear so conflated in his mind <3 #I keep thinking of his human instincts as specifically Max's instincts since it's his body - Max's self-preservation and fear and hunger #Which ZEX dutifully ignores lol Max's body tells him to bolt and privately replies like ''Yes yes in a moment'' haha #His fascination wins out! To his own detriment haha #Although I say all that as though I don't relate in my own way - I have maybe just a few too many notes relating to ZEX lol #It's always been hard for me to get into horror in the way it's intended to spook and scare because I tend to get sad :') #So many monsters and ghosts and creatures are victims of circumstance! Like Kayako! As she is here she's not even malicious just dangerous #I've never seen the Grudge so it's only speculation but it seems very sad that she was tethered as a Curse rather than a malignant spirit #Like a battery moreso than an individual - what a terrible after-existence! It makes me sad to consider! #ZEX reaching out to her in his own way is very sweet <3 He's so biased towards his darlings hehe #In a way being human does suit him - we'll packbond with anything that Might have even the slightest inclination to not maim us lol #And the way he personifies her! (VUXonifies her?) Reading intention or emotion into her actions with no proof and no understanding! #The way he ''tries to read her face'' as if he hasn't been struggling with that this entire time - with other humans who can tell him so ♪ #His pride is so delicious <3 He is so easily blinded to his own shortcomings in the face of pleasure and the potential for connection! #It's no wonder DAX worries about him so much hehe ♥ #It also always makes me so happy to have something fit together so perfectly like those last two hehe <3 #That vine didn't exist when this happened! But there it is!! I love newer memes on older media hehehe ♪♫

[tinylantern]

Admittedly, I do get lowkey annoyed when people exclusively refer to Arthur's problems as "mommy issues" and it's difficult to explain why without writing a mile long post

#rune factory #rune factory 4 #rf4 #rf4 arthur #I mean Arthur's main issue is that he's emotionally repressed and struggles to open up to others about his feelings/problems #And he's unable to move on from his past because he attributes so much of his present identity to his fruitless search for his mother #But when people say 'Oh he's got MOMMY ISSUES' it makes it sound like his only problem is that his mother didn't love him growing up #Completely ignoring that he was a victim of emotional neglect and he was so badly burnt from the experience #That in an ironic twist he took his mother's final words to heart and emotionally closed himself off from everyone #It's to protect himself from the pain of being abandoned by someone again but it ultimately deprives him of meaningful emotional connection

[jeweled-blue-eyes]

Derrick trying to buy Penelope's love and forgiveness by gifting her a necklace and Penelope giving Iklies a necklace and expecting his love and total obedience in return are the same scenes in a different font

#death is the only ending for a villainess #the way Penelope's treatment of Iklies softly mirrors her brother's treatment of her #thinking abt how she placed Iklies in a situation where he would be abused by the servants #how she ignored him and then gave him gifts to make up for the neglect #how Derrick and Penelope both dehumanized/underestimated Penelope/Iklies #which destroyed any possibility of them ever having a romantic relationship with them that they desired so much #because they never saw the other as equals or even human #Penelope showing Iklies the only kindness she was shown the kidness of an abuser towards his victim #vadd chapter 38 #vadd chapter 93 #parallels #villains are destined to die #vadd #ditoeftv #anti cha siyeon

[illputdownmyrootswhenimdead]

someone: jkr is horrible-

me: yeah, i completely agree with you there

someone: -which is why you should stan uncle rick rick riordan instead :)

me:

#rick riordan critical #PLEASE take your head out of your ass #rick riordan is not as bad as jkr but posing his books as the ‘more diverse’ and acting like he’s a great awesome ally to minorities #is just. incredibly naive #piper with feathers! unhealthy age gaps in relationships! the only gay character (at that point) suffering constantly and then being outed- #in front of a complete stranger! incredibly shallow and often misogynistic portrayal female characters! general insensitivity and ignorance #of other cultures! a transphobic portrayal of a genderfluid person who gets called a slur by one of the GOOD characters! shallow and ableist #portrayal of adhd! ableism in saying his characters don’t have push because they’re ‘too strong’! no physically disabled characters! #his incredibly lesbophobic response to people saying reyna reads as gay to them! #this is literally just the tip of the iceberg #rr is NOT some woke intelligent savour he’s a grown ass man who doesn’t have people of the cultures/groups he’s writing about to check if #it’s harmful or incorrect or stereotypical!! #he’s a rich cishet white man with a victim complex when people call him out on his shit. #rr stans don’t interact with me i do not want to hear it #tbh the only reason why he’s ‘better’ than jkr is because he doesn’t have her level of influence #god. shudder. i don’t want to think about that #dove talks #hi it’s 4pm and im so angry. #will admit that anyone saying percy jackson would beat harry potter in a fight is 100% #like we can agree on that one.

[lesbianaglaya]

revoking people’s right to talk about the tolstoy marriage until they write and turn in to me a ten page essay on complex relationships

#‘tolstoy STOLE from sophia’s diary’ almost certainly not true. #at least not in the usual vein - sophia was (and should be credited as!) at the very least his editor and collaborator #with w&p at times i want to say co author but i also dont think we should diminish the importance of editing #they worked as a team! and in the later years when thier relationship was increasingly frought they were BOTH reading each others diaries. #the problem is there is genuinely an avenue to talk about how tolstoy drew from real life in less than ethical ways #tanya bhers/natasha rostova for instance. THE KREUTZER SONATA! FOR INSTANCE! #but diminishing it down to oh he stole from her is. a disservice to both of them. #sophia confessed her love by writing a story that blatantly copied real life and lev’s personal insecurities confessed in confidence #and honestly that isnt even BAD like there is a reason they were happily married for 25 years! they’re work is similar they were a team! #we dint need to flatten it out to sophia-wife-victim lev-husband-abuser. #nor do we need to ignore the many ways sophia suffered! #it’s just theyve been reduced to a famous literary disaster marriage when they really… werent that. #gabby.txt #genuinely tanya as the inspiration for natasha is far more upsetting to me than giving his diary to sophia before the wedding. #idk. idk! its like on one hand im so fully on sophia's side and im so happy that her diaries and writing are being translated #and. not even on the other hand these ideas arent in opposition to each other. reducing her marriage to a flat picture of suffering is. bad #actually i think in many ways the problem is solved by looking at sophia as an author instead of a wife. #which like. she was very much both. but if we afford her the agency afforded to an author i think the conversation immediately gains nuance #and that also comes with the caveat of female authors being far less respected - look at nadezhda khvoshchinskaya - but still #anyway GOOOOD morning

[philtatosbuck]

mikaelson stans are deeply unserious but the worst kinds are the klaro klaus stans, the “klaus is a big meanie” elijah stans and the “kol is so mistreated” kol stans

#like i'm all for acknowledging klaus' wrongs #but you can't at your grown age keep blaming klaus for all of elijah's shit lmfao #you cannot keep using 'klaus always ruins what elijah has' when elijah is LETTING HIM #not only that but he HELPS HIM DO IT to their other siblings #elijah is not a victim of klaus' insanity he's a fucking enabler #if ANYONE could take on klaus pre hybrid and win. it was elijah. #he didn't do that. he willingly played a hand in klaus ruining damn near everyones lives #ESPECIALLY katherine but y'all love to pretend katherine should just ignore all that #elijah is quite literally the only one who could actually beat klaus' ass when he acts up but no! he's right by his side doing it too #i don't have words for the kl*ro klaus stans. idk who that bitch is lmfao #the 'kol is so mistreated' gang is just ridiculous #like. yeah. it'd be hard to deny he gets mistreated by his siblings #but he's not? some uwu baby? who needs to be 'protected' or defended #he's also a grown fucking man #the 'mistreated' thing goes out the window as SOON as he leaves his family's presence #he's done as much shit as they all have #there's no room for argument that he's 'better' than them #because we didn't see it on screen #just deeply unserious. all of you. #klaus mikaelson #elijah mikaelson #kol mikaelson

[trueduckweed]

Acknowledging Hunter has/had bad mindsets ingrained into him that hurt both him and others isn’t victim blaming y’all🤦

#the owl house #hunter toh #being hurt doesn't mean you can't hurt another #terms like bad person are just a way to predict if someone is going to act in morally acceptable ways consistently in the future #via info from past actions #ofc people use it as some all encompassing State Of Being and so they get mad when a victim is called such #it's not Hunter's fault he ended up with terrible beliefs but that doesn't make the beliefs.. less terrible? #the world interacts with Hunter but Hunter also interacts with the world #he just needs to learn how to do so in a less destructive way #but ignoring the harm he inflicts on others with his mindset (both in larger ways like attempted palismen murder or forced branding #or in smaller like giving bad advice to Amity/dismissing the Derby Team based on his initial judgment) isn't going to help #victimhood doesn't mean you are an angel

[falllpoutboy]

i just can’t take people seriously who say that sansa and dany should’ve been bffs and braided each other’s hair and had #girlboss sleepovers in s8 😭

#aside from like. how narrative storyline works #bc part of the appeal of the show has always been leaders opposing morals/philosophies in opposition to each other #but like ignoring that. this is the mad kings daughter and the granddaughter/niece of HIS victims that incited the fucking war to begin wit #THIS IS A WOMAN WITH 3 FIRE BREATHING DRAGONS WHO BURNT HER DISSENTERS #idk. maybe yall are the dumb ones… not me <3

[angorwhosebabyisthis]

i have a Lot of thoughts and feelings in me about the reading of adam as a deeply unreliable narrator, and how it makes him and the stories/character dynamics/worldbuilding he's involved in so much more nuanced and interesting, and how it could have given us so much opportunity for messy-but-trying character growth on his part, and how instead pretty much the extent we got of any acknowledgment that his background might have fucked up his perspective A Little is the other protagonists going 'WOAAAAH he's SO cold and fucked up, mogadorians amirite' and then moving right the fuck along

#lorien legacies #adamus sutekh #LL crit tag #the crit files #like!!!! aaaaaaaaa!!!!!! #he's a really REALLY interesting character if you read him that way; and on a watsonian level we get at least one major tell that that's so #aka the thing with arsis #and you kind of have to confront that for him to have any chance of /actually/ improving as a person #and they threw that straight under the bus along with all the people he does; says; and thinks horrifically cruel bigoted shit about #and on top of that the whole 'woah you mogs are like So Fucked Up' is only applied to things like him saying 'please kill my abusive dad' #'if you get the chance' #'you will not upset me and it is critical to the mission' #and john's response is to shame and victim-blame him about it because 'omg he's your dad :(((' #and then ignore his express wishes about it because What if I Kill His Dad and It Makes Him Sad :((( #because adam is incapacitated and can't right at that second say i told you to pull the trigger piglet #because /john/ is grieving his dad and therefore refuses to believe anyone should or would feel differently about it #than he feels about henri #whereas no one says jack shit about him telling a slave to 'speak english this is america--oops i mean earth' #and certainly at no other point when they do privately side-eye him do they /act on that/ #anyway yeah there is So much shittiness here all around #and as someone who's loved adam from the start it drives me up the wall that they put this particular platter of sushi in the microwave #lorien legacies tag #racism cw #anti-survivor cw #abuse mention cw

[dcmoniism-a]

[ ooc // when the topic of damon and his young boy past becomes the main topic of conversation, get ready to sob with me because my boy has been through so much it’s unreal. if you’re not ready for it, don’t start talking about it. asdfg. ]

#[ ooc / mun talk. ] #/ people are always like 'poor stefan for living without his mom' but what about damon?? #/ what about the little boy that already understood things significantly well to SEE his mom deteriorate and die? #/ and then be ignored and neglected by a whole estate because stefan was the priority since he was younger and 'needed it more' #/ that boy went from living in a happy family home to living a complete shit hole in weeks #/ no wonder he pinned their mom's passing on stefan #/ life was one thing before stefan and a whole other after #/ going from being a son to just existing within the home and becoming a victim of their father's rage was no easy task #/ and yet he came out on top bravo

[scorpion-flower]

"Zeus was poly and it's Hera's fault for not accepting it."

All I hear is "I know nothing about mythology or how polyamory works".

#the zeus being poly is a 100% true thing a stupid dude told me #polyamory is not to be forced onto a partner without their consent #by that logic zeus should have told before their marriage #hera should have given her consent and be free to find other partners as well which in patriarchical ancient greece is a big NO #zeus was a cheater and a rapist #and it was a double spit on hera's face #because she was the goddess of marriage #can ignorant dudes stop talking and projecting their own issues through what appears to be comments on unrelated topics? #also way to blame the victim in the relationship #which when it comes to their marriage is hera #and when it comes to zeus' affairs are his 'lovers' both because he 'tricks' them and hera punishes them #scorpion-flower #zeus #hera #greek #greek mythology #mythology #we were the kings and the queues