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Victor Vale.
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pocket-goose · 5 months
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finished reading vicious by v.e. schwab and oh my god it was SO FUCKING GOOD?? it’s 2:20 in the morning so unfortunately i can’t immediately leave my house to go get the sequel but i will be doing so as soon as i wake up later today cause ASJDJFJWJWSN
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readsbydes · 2 years
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Some penguin classic covers I made of some of my favorite books.
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stardustprompts · 4 months
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vicious  -  v.e. schwab  sentence starters change tenses/pronouns as needed !!  some lines have been edited for clarity / length / ease of roleplaying  tw :  death , murder , suicide , religious idealization , language , mental health
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‘vandalizing school property again?’
everything stars with belief. with faith.’
‘fine, yeah, it’s stupid, right? you caught me.’
‘I don’t think you’re a bad person.’
‘it’s all a matter of perspective.’
‘did you know that when you take away a person’s fear of pain, you take away their fear of death? you make them, in their own eyes, immortal.’
‘someone tried to kill me.’
‘why would someone try to kill you?’
‘you asked me if I ever wanted to believe in something. I do. I want to believe in this.’
‘I want to believe that there’s more. that we could be more.’
‘nothing you ever do, (name), is meant to be theoretical. I see it in you.’
‘I think you’ve had enough.’
‘i’ll go first.’
‘actually, I’m feeling fine. better than. I feel wonderful. I feel like roses and sunshine and glitter.’
‘you need to live through this. you need to.’
‘my hero. now fuck off.’
‘you can’t do this alone. so promise me you won’t.’
‘have you lost your mind?’
‘we can get you help.’
‘this is crazy. you’re crazy.’
‘I want you to know that I will never, ever forgive you for this.’
‘did you love her? or are you just mad I took something back?’
‘I didn’t rat you out, you know. I could have.’
‘I don’t know who you are but you’re not (name). you’re something that’s crawled in his skin. a devil wearing him.’
‘something’s wrong, missing, gone. can’t you feel it? I can.’
‘admit it, you feel different, too. death takes something with it. what did it take from you?’
‘no one is going to hurt you, you know why? because I’ll hurt them first.’
‘would that be so bad? to create something extraordinary?’
‘all these roads lead to ruin.’
‘I died begging for the strength to survive and it was granted. but it’s a trade.’
‘it’s a trade, with god or the devil, and I’ve paid for my gift with the lives of my friends.’
‘i’m dangerous. I shouldn’t exist. but what gives you the right to kill me?’
‘everything about you is chock full of self - loathing. i’m not judging. I know the feeling.’
‘you know, maybe I should let you kill me.’
‘you’re right. even though we come back, something stays dead. lost. we forget something of who we are.’
‘it’s scary and wonderful and monstrous.’
‘you’re the hero … of your own story.’
‘what gives you the right to play judge and jury and executioner?’
‘want me to kiss it? will that make it better?’
‘I know you. I see you.’
‘I don’t want to be forgotten,’
‘tell you what. you remember me, and I’ll remember you, and that way we won’t be forgotten.’
‘that’s shit logic.’
‘you make cheating death sound so simple.’
‘being afraid and being unwilling are two different things.’
‘I don’t think you want to die.’
‘the world resists, when you break its rules.’
‘I see you’re still alive then. good choice.’
‘if u didn’t know better, i’d think you care.’
‘you think I’m wrong somehow. broken.’
‘I think we’re all broken.’
‘you can’t fix the dead, (name). and besides, it’s not your place to try.’
‘it’s not your place to control people’s lives.’
‘who taught you to sing so loud? the (name) I knew could barely chirp.’
‘I need you to be brave. I need you to be strong.’
‘there are worse ways to die. and worse things to do than die.’
‘I promise I’ll make it quick.’
‘there was a monster in there, long before you died.’
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starleete · 2 months
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Run, thought Victor, and he could see the response in Eli's coiled frame.
Chase me.
Vengeful by V.E. Schwab
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yulicchi-x · 4 months
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SCREAMING. CRYING.
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SHE'S REALLY WORKING ON THE THIRD BOOK. THIS WAS NOT IN MY 2024 LIST BUT IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN EVERYTHING ELSE.
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dayables · 11 months
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Everytime I see someone say that Vicious is about good v evil I have to wonder if we read the same book. Eli? Good?? Victor? Good??
Imo the hero v villain is a lot closer to critising the blind agreement of people we like, than a who's morally correct question. As the reader, we can recognise that Eli mercilessly killing EOs is bad. And so is the police force allowing him! But that doesn't make Victor 'doesnt try to bring Angie back even though he knows he should, and is driven by revenge' Vale the good person.
Rather than good v evil I'd argue the conflict is religion v science. As it's very much Eli 'I put myself in God's Hand' Ever Vs Victor 'The body is a machine' Vale.
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ajlockwood · 8 months
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10 years and victor “master of poetics” vale still slaps
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ivyrosewrites · 1 year
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Just finished reading Vicious by V.E. Schwab and oh my gooooossshhhh, yes.
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i-needserotonin · 7 months
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Religious Imagery and Symbolism in Eli Ever:
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Note : everything in this analysis was or could have been linked in a more generalized and not necessarily true theology, only as a way to try to associate or make connections with the mentioned character.
Baptism
His first death can be likened to a Baptism.
Baptism is a Christian sacrament of initiation and adoption, almost invariably with the use of water. It may be performed by sprinkling or pouring water on the head, or by immersing in water either partially or completely, traditionally three times, once for each person of the Trinity. 
" The baptized person emerges from a watery grave into a new life."
Baptism is a symbol of Christ’s burial and resurrection. The entrance into the water during baptism identifies Christians with Christ’s death on the cross, His burial in the tomb and His resurrection from the dead.
The parallel between Eli's first death and baptism is evident. Just as a baptized person emerges from a "water tomb" into a new life, Eli undergoes a transformation after his first death.
"signifies that "you" have died to your old self and sin, emerging as a new creation."
This means that, in the same way, Eli's death represents a passage into a new phase, where he leaves behind his previous "self", emerging as a new creation, almost like a rebirth.
“Going under the water was a burial of your old life; coming up out of it was a resurrection, God raising from the dead as he did Christ." Colossians 2:12-14
Furthermore, there is an evident connection between sin, death, and God's gift of eternal life. As mentioned next.
"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans 6:23
Three
The Christian doctrine of the Trinity is the central doctrine concerning the nature of God in most Christian churches, which defines one God existing in three coequal, coeternal, consubstantial divine persons: God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.
The Christian Church has celebrated the resurrection of Jesus Christ on a Sunday—three days after remembering his death on Good Friday. This timeline of three days is based on numerous references in the New Testament. Jesus predicted it many times, the three-day timeline matters to the biblical narrative because it is the special day on which God creates new life and activates his covenant with humanity.
three times he shot victor.
three years since they met.
three times he died ( manifesting he coming back and dying again)
" He met his gaze in the mirror and began to unbutton his shirt, exposing the scars from the bullets of Eli’s gun one by one. He ran his fingers over them, touching the three spots where he’d been shot the way a man might cross himself." Part One; Chapter XXVI , Vicious.
In the Bible, we can find more examples of the use of the number three as sacred or a persistent and symbolic repeating pattern, but I only mentioned these few situations that I found relevant or that fit the narrative of 'Vicious'.
Cross
The Cross, is the principal symbol of the Christian religion, recalling the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ and the redeeming benefits of his Passion and death. The cross is thus a sign both of Christ himself and of the faith of Christians. In ceremonial usage, making a sign of the cross may be, according to the context, an act of profession of faith, a prayer, a dedication, or a benediction.
"to outline the form of a cross as a Christian religious act by moving the hand from the forehead to the breast and then from one shoulder to the other, seen as representing the trinity: Father, Son and Holy Spirit."
The use of blood as part of a ritual is laden with symbolism.
"Wouldn’t You?” He cut deeper, through to bone, over and over, until the floor was red. Until he’d given his life to God a hundred times, and a hundred times had it given back. Until the fear and the doubt had all been bled out of him. And then he set the knife aside with shaking hands. Eli dipped his fingertips in the slick of red, crossed himself, and got back to his feet. "Part Two; Chapter IV, Vicious.
In the context of this specific text, Eli blessing himself with his own blood appears to represent a desperate quest for answers and validation from God regarding his identity and the powers he possesses.
This action can be seen as an extreme act of devotion and sacrifice. It may represent the intensity of Eli's search for a divine answer or for God's forgiveness. Making the sign of the cross with his own blood suggests that he is willing to sacrifice or suffer in search of a deeper spiritual connection or proof of divine will.
Blood, Red & White
"And by the law almost all things are made clean with blood, and without blood there is no forgiveness." Hebrews 9:22
In the Old Testament, animal sacrifices were a means of seeking forgiveness and reconciliation with God. The shedding of blood in these rituals symbolized the payment for sins.
The New Testament sees the shedding of Jesus' blood on the cross as the ultimate act of redemption. Christians believe that through His blood, believers are forgiven of their sins and reconciled with God.
And also associated with purification and cleansing.
As we know, Eli associates his murders with a distorted view of divine justice. He believes he is eliminating those people he considers unnatural or threats to society, as a purification, justifying his murders as a way of protecting the world from “villains” with extraordinary powers, this vision can be easily associated, by the way he thinks and acts throughout most of the narrative as a clear link to the Christian view of sacrifice and blood itself.
Red, associated with sacrifices, sin, power, sinfulness. can be conected with redemption and atonement. It represents the idea that through Christ's sacrifice, believers can be cleansed of their sins and find redemption, also linked to martyrdom. Martyrs who died for their faith are often depicted wearing red, symbolizing their willingness to shed their blood for their beliefs.
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White, purity, innocence, righteousness. Associated with the idea of resurrection and new life in Christ. It signifies the hope of eternal life after death, it can also represents the state of being free from sin.
And for red and white, which are colors normally associated with the character as they continue to be described with him in the narrative or mainly associated with the vision that people have of him, with white clothes, gun and glasses being one of the easiest ways to identify him, we can see that both colors connect with sacrifice, martyrdom, purification and eternal life, which are elements present in the character and his narrative.
Name.
In the Villains series, the name theme remains, whether in a satirical way, a reference to comic books or just a way of demonstrating what a character represents.
Eliot means “The Lord is my God", “Jehovah is my God.”
With the meaning of his name I would like to close this brief summary that I tried to make about the symbolism that I could notice predominantly in the narrative of his character, from his name to the meaning of eternal life and the usual theme, we can see that Eli is a character strongly linked to religiosity and can be easily associated with various concepts of Christianity.
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Final Note: Thank you if you read this far and I hope you enjoyed it.
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clarkesyd · 10 months
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fia's infinite ship list: victor vale & mitch turner, vicious (2013)
so what do you want then?
a friend.
that's all?
a good friend, mr. turner, is very hard to find.
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boozy-the-ghost · 5 months
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Yk how a cat might see a kitten and decided well I guess I'm a mom and immediately just start licking it?
Yeah so Mitch when he met Victor
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fakeoutbf · 1 year
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over the course of the last week, safe had ceased to be a place for Sydney, and had become a person...
– Vicious by V.E. Schwab
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island-in-ignorance · 5 months
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"Not everyone who looks like a hero is a hero. And not everyone who looks like a monster is a monster" is a line that goes SO HARD and also reminds me of the line from Vicious
"Plenty of humans were monstrous, and plenty of monsters knew how to play at being human.”
And it is an UTTER delight of mine to connect lines from Rick Riordan (childhood favorite author) to V.E Schwab (adult favorite author)
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nekohrine · 1 year
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"they don't have to be together!!" yeah sure but then I open a random page in vicious, look at a random place, and somehow it's the gayest thing I've seen today
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shrublub · 2 years
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i made a friend 🪦
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