#eli cardale

[notafckingsidekick]

Sketch for my Uni final project Illustration! I picked the scene from the final chapter of Vicious!! I’m wrapping up the project soon so will be posting the rest of my character studies and things here soon :)

If you’re interested in my other work it’s over at @thechatster

#victor vale #vicious ve schwab #vicious #eli ever #villains series #eli cardale #ve schwab #mitch turner #sydney clarke

[discountsoysauce]

I don't understand the idea that Victor has no backstory. Like- yeah, his backstory isn't as horrifically tragic and detailed as Eli's is, but we do know a good bit about him from what he's said so far.

His parents are pretty successful, so we can assume he grew up rich. Victor states that they write all of these books about family but have never taken time out of their day for him, even saying something along the lines of the last time they put aside time for him was his birth (not exact quotes, I don't have the energy to look back through the books rn), so we can assume that they were incredibly neglectful, most likely leaving him at home for days, weeks, maybe months at a time and probably not paying much attention to him even in times when they were home. Whether they paid someone to take care of him in that time or he had to learn to be self-sufficient is debatable.

I personally don't think they were physically abusive, and there doesn't seem to be any evidence at present that supports that idea. Verbal abuse is more likely, but I still don't think it was the case. It doesn't seem like they were around him long enough to do either. I don't think those things really need to be a part of his backstory to make it interesting or compelling. His parents were neglectful, and it shaped pretty much everything about who he is.

The biggest and most obvious one is Victor's obsession with attention. There are multiple references throughout the books of Victor craving attention from those around him, namely Angie and Eli. More than anything, Victor wants to be seen. He wants to be a part of something. He wants to be remembered and acknowledged and thought about. He craves the attention his parents never gave him. He doesn't want to be left behind or forgotten.

Being left behind is another big fear for him (I'm mostly speaking about Lockland here, as he becomes a bit less dependent after he becomes an EO, though there can still be an argument made about him latching onto Mitch and Sydney and Dol and Dominic in a kind of makeshift family he never had). He hates seeing Eli succeed because it feels like he's being left behind. He wants to be so intertwined with another person that they can't possibly forget him. He wants to form a connection so deep that it's impossible to sever. To Victor, there's a connection between 'success' and being left behind. He doesn't want to just be an expendable sidekick or an accessory. He wants to be an integral part of someone. Victor's life revolving around Eli is a symptom of his upbringing.

His social skills and general demeanor are also something that can be analyzed. From the beginning, he's set up as the antithesis to Eli, from social class to backstory to appearance to demeanor. They're the same at their core, but opposites in nearly everything else. Compared to Eli, Victor is a total recluse. He hates being around people, he avoids parties, and we barely see him interact with or pay attention to anyone except the people he genuinely cares about unless he absolutely needs to. His demeanor is off-putting, and he doesn't really make an effort to hide that, although he does just enough to make sure he isn't a complete social outcast. Victor grew up in one home with no siblings and parents who were hardly around. Compared to Eli, who was carted from home to home, meeting new people and learning how to blend in all the time, Victor likely doesn't have much in the way of social experience. He didn't have to hide who he was nearly as much as Eli did because there was no one there to see it anyway.

This being said, he is described as being a good liar and able to fool those around him, although notably worse at it than Eli. This one is more of a longshot, but I don't think it's improbable. Victor's parents were successful published authors who garnered their success based on the books they wrote about family. It's possible that Victor had to make press appearances at some point when he was younger, and learned how to lie for the cameras, or he just spent so long out of the company of others that he started seeing other people as more objects to use and less real living people, making it easier to learn the motions of manipulating them. Either way, Victor learns how to do or say the right thing to get someone to believe him, but he states that Eli is much better at actually faking emotions than he is. This is because while Eli spent his life following his father's death surrounded by people and thus learned how to change his entire self to appear more presentable to the general public, Victor only learned how to manipulate people through speech or actions. He can tell you exactly what you want to hear, but he can't put on a fake persona the way Eli can because he never needed to.

In conclusion, Victor does have a backstory, and it informs every aspect of his character, including his relationship to Eli.

#this isnt me defending victor this post got away from me a bit lmao #a not entirely serious mention of the idea that his skewed morality could also be a result of his upbringing #i mean #the man had no role models #and was pretty much raised on crime dramas #cmon #hopping off my soapbox now #i got tired near the end can you tell #Victor's backstory isnt explicitly outlines the way Eli's is but its There #i came up with most of this as i was typing #vicious ve schwab #vengeful ve schwab #victor vale #villains series #eli ever #eli cardale #vicious #vengeful

[bvrtysbvtches]

the “best friends who had plans of changing the world together but then one of them betrayed the other and now they’re on opposite sides and the one who betrayed the other is now morally grey and kills people but they still can’t bring themselves to kill the other because deep down they’re still in love with them” trope>>>>

#bonus points if they're both the leaders of their opposing sides #and if they were childhood friends #victor vale #eli ever #eli cardale #evervale #vicious #vengeful #gellert grindelwald #albus dumbledore #grindeldore #charles xavier #erik lehnsherr #cherik #its just so good with all the betrayal and angst and hidden feelings #also dont know if this applies to them but i ship them so #atlas blakely #ezra fowler #the atlas six #albus x gellert #victor x eli #charles x erik #atlas x ezra

[chaoticmiserablelover]

Two people who understand each other deeply. The power they hold over each other's hearts. the trust between them. That's why I keep reading books. It fascinates me.

#books and reading #books #evervale #vicious #victor vale #eli ever #eli cardale #paul fleischer #these violent delights #richard papen #henry winter #the secret history #if we were villains #oliver marks #james farrow #babel an arcane history #robin swift #ramiz rafi mirza #the atlas six #nico de varona #gideon drake #demian #max demian #emil sinclair #julian fromme

[i-needserotonin]

The problem with Eli and Victor's relationship is that they are best friends, ex-best friends, rivals, nemesis , mirrors, narrarive foils, a weird college situationship that neither of them can get over. They haven't seen each other for years and they still think about each other's minds. They can't live with it. They fall into madness when the other is dead. They can't live with the thought of the other being dead as if a part of them was ripped away and burned alive. They are obsessed with the idea they have of the other. They were the only people who completely understood each other in this world and it scared them. They haunt each other even though they are alive in the same room. They could never separate themselves from the idea of ​​what could have been. They are already dead in the same fucking grave.

#vicious ve schwab #villains series #eli ever #victor vale #really a dinamic #evervale #hate them #eli cardale #i was going somewere with this #anyway #i am sorry for this

[magnoliaribs]

the funniest part of Vicious is when Eli isn’t giving Victor enough attention so he decides to electrocute himself

#vicious ve schwab #eli ever #victor vale #vicious #ve schwab #eli cardale

[sillysynopses]

The phrase ‘and they were roommates’ finally finds its origin as two men enacting scientific war crimes rather than fuck one another, encounter a pair of sisters who need therapy, a dog that really just needs to go to a better home, and the most innocent cyber criminal slash hired muscle you’ll ever encounter. Watch as this group of people burn through a city that might as well be New York but possibly isn’t for legal reasons, and murder a bunch of innocent people who probably had it coming anyway because they were possessed by the devil- or at least that’s what the traumatised religious man keeps telling himself- anyway, join in on the rom com of the century as these two crazy kids prove you need a lot more than good chemistry to make a relationship work- you also need a defibrillator!

#vicious #vengeful #v e schwab #ves #victor vale #Eli ever #eli cardale #sydney clarke #Serena Clarke #a darker shade of magic #marcella #Victor x eli #Eli x Victor #Marcella Morgan

[parched-chaos]

I still find it funny that victor killed two of out of three of Eli's gfs kjj

#like he really said no one is touching him BUT ME #really find that comedy gold lmao #vicious #vengeful #villains series #eli ever #eli cardale #victor vale #evervale #art #drawing #artists on tumblr #painting

[itsnotmika]

“you can’t kill me, victor,” said eli. “you know that.”
victor’s smile widened as he buried his knife between eli’s ribs.
“i know,” he said loudly. he had to speak up over the screams. “but you’ll have to indulge me. i’ve waited so long to try.”

#if evil why hot? #victor vale #eli ever #eli cardale #evervale #sydney clarke #vicious #vengeful #villains duology #ve schwab #books #booklr #txt

[moonys-bf]

hear me the FUCK OUT

#vicious ve schwab #victor vale #evervale #eli ever #eli cardale

[amongsthorns]

when they're both doctor frankestein and the monster – they've created each other, they're each other's freaks of nature – and their very essences are so tangled together, so deeply woven, they can't shake themselves off. they become a haunting and an obsession, prey and predator, all at once, both at the same time.

#evervale #eli cardale #victor vale #everything is wrong with them both #i will put them both in so many situations #villains series

[notafckingsidekick]

Victor Vale is really important to me as asexual rep.

The only person he ever had a crush on was the girl that fit his specific definitions of perfect. Smart, likeable, nice to him. In order to stay within that “top of the class” role he’d been thrown into, she was a naturally obvious choice.

But she was taken by someone better.

Taken by Eli. Unwaveringly full of a million defensive layers yet still Victor finds common ground, a kindred spirit. In his friendship and eventual obsession with Eli lies something far deeper than simply desire- it’s the corrupting need to understand.

There’s no big reveal about Victors sexuality, it isn’t really discussed. Yet as an ace person, something resonates. Indifference to physical action doesn’t mean a complete lack of feeling. A meaningless action can be rendered priceless for the moments in between. Glances, whispered words, the sensation of touch.

It all comes back to that soul crushing yearning for mutual understanding. To find someone just like him, that’s what Victor wants. Someone to know his faults and his desires, to share in them.

This is an extremely nuanced reading but as someone that struggles to find media representation of my emotional processing, it’s a comfort to see a kindred want expressed. I yearn for more ace rep with individual depth. To love deeply is not always so straightforward.

#rambles #victor vale #vicious ve schwab #v e schwab #villains series #eli cardale #eli ever #angie knight #asexual #aspec #asexuality #ace representation #I also think Victor is demiromantic and autistic but that is for another night #evervale #victorposting

[discountsoysauce]

Eli would listen to Take Me To Church by Hozier and fully think it was a religious song. Victor has to break the news to him and then he deletes it from all his playlists

#victor laughs at him #this is a shitpost #begging dont take this too seriously #eli ever #eli cardale #vengeful ve schwab #vicious ve schwab #villains series #victor vale #evervale #villains duology #villains trilogy

[bvrtysbvtches]

fellas is it gay to have hallucinations of your mortal enemy where they tell you they're the only person who really knows you and you agree while you're literally in a prison that said mortal enemy put you in

#answer: it is #eli ever #eli cardale #victor vale #evervale #vicious #vengeful #villians duology #eli x victor #lgbtq #mlm

[ghoulorghost]

What Sydney probably witnessed that day in the field:

#vicious #vengeful #villains #ve schwab #eli cardale #eli ever #sydney clarke #serena clarke

[i-needserotonin]

love their dynamic in college because Victor was it all, wearing black, edgy vibes, " I hate my parents", vandalizing books with markers Vale, while it was Eli who as selling drugs, robbed the hospital he worked at and killed his father and yet people probably thot of him as the college sweetheart Cardale

#vicious ve schwab #villains series #eli ever #victor vale #eli cardale #evervale #vengeful ve schwab #is so funny to me that people describe Eli as very atractive that man killed and is capable of so many things... #perception vs reality #they are so normal