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igotanidea · 1 year

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Line of authority: Aaron Hotchner x fem!agent!reader

requested: yes, as a part of my 1k celebration: Aaron Hotchner and silent treatment.

Warnings: age gap, co-workers relationship (reader is Hotch's inferior), a bit of angst and um, well, silent treatment, fluff at the end.

A/N: I can easily get into Hotch personality, but stil find it a bit hard to write for him romantically, so please, do not go too hard on me 🥺

***

„Go home.”

„No.”

„Please, go home.”

„I’m telling you I am absolutely fine!”

“How long have they been going on with this?”

SSA Aaron Hotchner, one of the BAU most esteemed agent had only one person that could undermine his authority. His partner in both work and life – Agent Y/N Y/L/N. Not that she was doing this on regular basis, she was a professional after all, but sometimes working together and staying in a relationship as a subordinate was too much. And the scene that was unravelling in front of the whole team was a perfect example of her limits.

Recently, the group of agents have been working on a case about assaulting and raping women. Again. Much to Aaron displeasure Y/n volunteered herself to be the bait. After all, she looked young and innocent, definitely not like a trained FBI agent. Despite the fact, that whole team remembered what happened last time, when Elle was supposed to help catch a women offender, all of them agreed to the plan. Maybe they trusted Y/N more or maybe they had no other options to catch the guy. Aaron objected giving his rational and logical arguments, but finally it was Gideon who made the tough call, taking some time to walk the girl through every step of the operation. Y/N quickly got the attention of the suspected man and due to some casual flirting and playing around found herself on the unsub radar. All the BAU needed was hard proof of his guilt. Sticking to the initial plan, Y/N left the bar, pretending to be a little drunk, and started walking home, watched closely by the team, located near the area in the concealed van. Morgan and Gideon who had the pleasure of sitting in one with Aaron could almost hear his heart escaping his chest and see his clenched jaw. But he was a trained agent, no matter how worried or scared or stressed he was, there was not a chance he would ever show that. Not even when it came to her. So the three men were just spending the time in complete silence. Until the offender started walking after Y/N, captured her and dragged her inside the nearest bush. Of course she fought him bravely and before anyone else reached them, she already had the perpetrator on the ground, gat pointed at his chest, no serious damage, apart from some scratches and cuts done to her. Girl’s psyche, however, was a whole different story. At least according to Aaron, on who’s orders she was supposed to hand over her badge and gun and stay on rest until being cleared out for the field. And boy, she did not like it. At all.

“Y/N.” Aaron looked straight into her eyes with that characteristic, arcane face expression. His eyes were practically begging for her to listen, but lips were pursed.

“I am…..”

“Fine, you said it. But you’re still an agent and you need to follow the procedure. And that means you have to go through evaluation.”

“I don’t have to do shit! Don’t try to fool me!” she exclaimed “do you have any idea how many women, kids and people are still out there, being abused every day?! You need me on the field!”

“I’m sorry agent Y/L/N. I need you to hand over you badge and gun. Now.” he said calmly, but everyone who knew him could tell that there was a storm inside him.

“And what if I refuse?” she crossed arms over her chest, every action daring Aaron’s self-control.

“Listen to me, than.” Gideon could tell that sooner or later one of them would snap so instead of watching he decided to take action. ”Y/N.” he smiled lightly “you know it’s not a way to get rid of you, don’t you? It’s like you said, we need you. But we need you in your best form, quick-thinking, rational, collected. Are you now?”

“I…..” she took a deep breath and after that threw her hands in the air “Fine. Fine!” her badge landed on the table “Have it your way. Maybe I’m off the field, but you can’t forbid me helping Penelope in her technician work.” The gun followed after the document “I can do work as a researcher, nearly as well.”.

“I’m sure Garcia will be more than happy to have you with her.” Gideon smiled at her “Thank you, Y/N. It’s just two weeks, the minimum amount we have.”

“Whatever.” She hissed, turning around and walking out of the room, shutting the door behind.

“You know that is not the procedure.” Jason turned towards his fellow profiler “she was not captured, shot or assaulted. She doesn’t need the assessment.”

“Let’s just get back to work, shall we?” Aaron retorted. Of course he knew that was a bit excessive, but what else was he supposed to do. He was trying to do what was best for her.

***

The following two weeks were torture for everyone in the team. Sure, Y/N was not supposed to go with them to the crime locations, but since Penelope was more than happy to have her best friend in her sanctuary she was always on the line. And in the main office in Quantico. With the amount of time Aaron were spending there, there was not a chance they would not run into each other. Or have to exchange words. And the fact, that Y/N moved back from his house, back to her own apartment and was giving him silent treatment were not helping. At all.

“Don’t you ever go the bathroom? Or to get coffee? Or, I don’t know, to stretch your legs?” Y/N was spinning around in the swivel seat, located in front of all the screen in Penelope’s offices.

“Of course not. How could I? I got loose threads to find and pull. I’m a genius, remember? I don’t fall into something so trivial and mundane as physiology!”

“Sure, Garcia, sure. I’ll definitely ask Reid about his opinion on the matter. Besides, we both know you only wait for you secret lover’s call.”

“Right. Speaking of the devil….” Penelope grinned, hearing the phone ring “you’ve reached the Oracle, ask and you shall be answered.”

“Garcia.”

“Oh, um, hi, Sir.” She stuttered a bit, realising it was in fact Hotch who was the called, and not Morgan.

“Is Y/L/N with you?”

“Um….” Penelope mumbled, eyes landing on the girl, who was frantically shaking her head and mouthing one simple word: NO!. Now poor Garcia was torn between the loyalty to her friend and line of authority. “Can’t I help you?’

“I need you to check some names for me. But Y/L/N had to go and do some paper research. And I know you are there Y/L/N. Talk to me. If nothing else convinces you, we got lives at stake.” The girl was still silent “Y/N….”

“It’s just about the case. What do I look for?” she could almost hear Hotch relief on the other side of the line when he started explaining the details.

And only a few hours later, they completed the investigation and were back in Quantico. And once the reports and paperwork were done, the only two people left in the office were Y/N and Aaron, sitting on opposite sides. Neither of them really wanted to go their homes, but they weren’t ready to talk. Not yet. This was the first time in their relationship that they found themselves in such a situation. Of course they need that working together was far from perfect, especially in this field, and they had to do some extensive explanation with the HR, but still…. At least they were spending time together. But now? This could have undermined and destroyed everything they had or made them stronger. The odds were even on both of those options. The question was, who would be the first to relent first in this game of hurt, pain, guilt and nerves.

At that moment, she was the one to stand up first and walk towards the door.

“Can we talk about it?” he called after her, but she only did so much as to stop for a moment and inhaling.

“No.”

***

The following weeks were… well, better in some way. She was keeping her professionalism, acknowledging Aaron’s presence whenever he was around, but the tension could still be felt. Especially when she was dropping occasional cold “morning, sir”, almost like she was trying to underline that he treated her simply as a subordinate or maybe even worse. If it were Emily or Ashley or damn, any of the man, Aaron would never go as far as putting them off. And that was what hurt her the most. That somehow he believed her to be … weaker, worse, not good enough to be an agent. She did not need him to act like her shield. She was trained, skilled and extremely good at her job. But instead of letting him know how she felt she choose to act like a kid. Finally, it was Morgan who snapped. And it was only when she got her badge back and was again a field agent, not a women in the chair (not that there was something wrong with that, but it was boring for Y/N, used to different kind of work).

“Hey, look who’s back on her feet!” he cheered when she entered the office, fully equipped “so, you’re graduated from the kindergarten or not yet?”

“What are you talking about?” she frowned and scoffed

“You know exactly what this is about. Y/N, I love you, all right, but you can be a pain in the ass and you showed that quite well lately.”

“Learning from the best” she smirked at him

“who?” Morgan titled his head ,not falling for the trap. Of course, it was too obvious for him. “Seriously, Y/N, it’s good to know you are on again, there is really no one to gets my jokes like you and Penelope.”

“Oh, so you admit you need a girl in the base and on the plane.”

“Duh.” He grinned “Never said I didn’t. But…. If you want to get back in my good graces….”

“Who said I do?”

“…. Go talk to Hotch. Clear things up, cause I believe I speak for the whole team saying you two made our lives a living nightmare. More than usual.”

“He’s right, you know!” Spender seconded Morgan from his chair, not raising gaze from the documents he was working on.

“All right! All right! I’m going. But why the hell does it always have to be me!?”

***

“Hotch?”

“Y/N” unlike Spencer, he did raise his eyes, focusing them on her. Not another word, just her name, like he was awaiting her reaction.

“You probably heard, I was … well, restored.”

“I did.”

“Well, um… if that’s all you have to say to me, than….”

“Wait.” He stood up and approached her, coming as close as he could considering the fact that they were still at work. Taking her hands in his, entwining their fingers, his eyes still focused on her to the point when it became uncomfortable and she had to look down. “Eyes up, agent.” She hated the fact that his deep voice was making her listen instantly “I’m sorry.” He said and everything in the tone and posture and his face was screaming sincerity.

“Why? You had every right to do so. It may have not been the standard procedure but it was still in your competence.”

“I overreacted.”

“That’s not happening often, does it?”

“Only when it comes to you.” he admitted and caressed her palm gently

“You don’t need to protect me, Aaron.” She took a step forward. Their bodies were almost touching and it was hard to not just dive into his embrace. But still, they were at work and his office had glass windows, for god’s sake!

“How can I not? I know you are trained. I know you know how to handle yourself, but I hate seeing you at this job. I let the work consume me before and now the same happens to you. And to think all I ever wanted was to keep the one I love out of this mess. “

“That’s what happened when your job is a mission….. wait, what did you just say?” her eyes grew wide and she took a step back to scan his face. “Are you saying that…..?”

“I thought it was pretty obvious at this point.”

“Yeah, but…..” her face became softer than before “I love you too, Hotch.”

“Does this mean you are coming back home?” he smirked pecking her lips, quickly, almost impalpably and she whined internally, wanting more.

“I’ll think about it. It’s not one of those “kiss and be forgiven” situation. I love that you love me but I also need you to let me do my thing. Just like with any member of the team. No special treatment. And that means both, not being too strict and not being too lenient. Although I’m sure you will have no problem with the latter.”

“Not at work.” he lifted corners of his mouth lightly, which was the equivalent of the brightest smile for him.

“I like how that sounds.” Now it was her turn to lean forward and peck his lips. “But before we take this conversation home, let’s not pretend the case files on your desk. Guess my absence took a heavy toll on you, agent Hotchner.”

@somest1

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alcalystrasz · 2 months

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I was watching some byler videos on YouTube, when I suddenly arrived on one video from a certain "urlocalbylershipper", in which they explains a theory, A HUGE ONE, that I personally think is one of the bests so far. Let me explain...

So, this OST, called Being Different, is the one who plays in the back of Will's lowkey confession to Mike in the van scene. He says that when you're different, you feel like a mistake, talking about himself, because being different means being gay, and so you feel like a mistake for being it. And the name is obviously Will's words.

And this OST, called You're The Heart, is the one who plays in the back of Mike's love confession for El. And it has this name because Will said to Mike that he was the heart of the party and without this heart, everyone would fall apart. So it's Will's words, again.

So now if you listen to these 2 OST separately, you may enjoy it, like every others, but also might sound confused. Why? Because these two seems like... incomplete. If you listen to both, separately, it feels like some instruments or sounds are missing, like it's, again, incomplete. HOWEVER, if you play them, together at the same time, starting from the beginning, the soundtrack looks more complete, and are perfectly fitting each other. Just try, you'll see how it's impressive.

Honestly that's a crazy hint that "urlocalbylershipper" noticed, over a YEAR AGO, so back when the season was released, and it's crazy that no one talks about it right now, because.... it kinda feels obvious? Atleast now that we know. And if it's made on purpose, the Duffers are crazy AND WILD to have made that up, or more like Kyle Dixon and Micheal Stein. Anyway my point is, it is on purpose, it is WAY too weird if it's not. And this can't be a coincidence.

Go check out her channel, there are plenty of good stuff, and I'm screaming because these two OST, used one for Mike and Will, for Will's confession, and the other for Mike's confession, but with Will's words, is giving like a lowkey hint/proof from the Duffers to significate that byler is endgame. I don't know if you understood but, yeah, I'm screaming right now so I probably wrote this in a rush but eh who cares?

Tell me what you think when you listen!

#stranger things #byler #noah schnapp #finn wolfhard #mike wheeler #will byers #byler is endgame #byler is canon #byler tumblr #love #byler nation #byler proof

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lordystrange · 1 year

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10 best byler proofs by me

10. The cast, especially David (who knows the ending) and Finn (who might know something), are always so happy talking about Byler. They wouldn’t be if Will ended up dying alone as a sad gay. Also no one likes milkvan except maybe Millie unless she’s acting… Caleb even said ”Lucas and Max’s love is real unlike Milkvan’s”.

9. Mike has been queercoded throughout the whole series. Especially with queer colors, he spent s4 dressed as a gay pride flag. Also bi and pan colors are associated with him. Also Ted’s ”our son with a girl?” and everything Eddie said about forced conformity etc

8. Byler parallelling other romantic ships like Jancy, Jopper and Lumax. I’m not listing examples because there are SO MANY! (Also Milkvan parallelling all the platonic/dead ships)

7. Mileven being bones. We have nothing that shows their actual, deep love they’re ”supposed to have”. We don’t know what Mike loves about El and what El loves about Mike. We don’t know what makes them a compatible match romantically. We only know things that don’t make them compatible: El feeling the need to lie to Mike, Mike feeling embarrassed of his nerdy self with El, El feeling unloved by Mike, Mike feeling inferior to El…

6. The desert scenes. The triple take ofc, but also the car roof top convo with Will (jancy parallell). Will is talking about how it’s scary to say how you really feel because what if they don’t like the truth. And Mike NODS. If the truth was that he loved El exactly like El wanted, El would like that truth. So what is the truth Mike is worried that El doesn’t like…?

5. Mike’s monologue. He had to be pushed by Will to open his mouth. He lied about him loving her at first sight. He copied the t-shirt part from Eddie. He kept saying she’s his superhero which El doesn’t wanna be. He didn’t include anything personal about El and their relationship after the t-shirt thing… Also El didn’t seem to like what she heard and their love didn’t save the world. And they didn’t even talk after it. And while filming it they didn’t focus on just the couple (like they did with byler in s2 shed scene) and they let Finn improvise as if it wasn’t that important (as important as the van scene…)

4. Mike would be so poorly written if he wasn’t into Will and I don’t think the Duffers would just ignore his character. Also all the lip glances and heart eyes wouldn’t make sense.

3. Byler/Milkvan contrast. When Will was gone and they found his ”body”, Mike heard Will breathing in a radio channel and believed he was alive. He didn’t rest for a second, he did everything he could to find him. When he thought El was dead, he didn’t go looking for her, even tho a couple times he actually saw her. Also in s3 when Milkvan had a fight, Max said Mike will be crawling back to her begging for forgiveness in no time. Instead Mike laid on a sofa and ate and complained. When Byler had a fight… well we all know what Mike did then.

2. Mike and Will’s relationship has always been different from other friendships. They’ve said it themselves (”pls don’t tell the others, they wouldn’t understand”, ”Hawkins is not the same without you”, ”you make her me feel better for being different”). Also their scenes together have always been a big deal (van scene took an entire day to film, crazy together was written before s1 was even filmed) and they are shot in a really romantic way (music, lighting…)

1. In the beginning of s3, Will said to Joyce that he’s not gonna fall in love. That made his arc about romance. We know now that he already fell in love, but he doesn’t believe it’s requited. If s5 goes from ”i don’t think he loves me back” to ”he doesn’t love me back” we get literally nowhere and the entire storyline (since s1) would be useless and waste of time and money. They wouldn’t make Will suffer 4 seasons and then suffer some more. So believe me when I say it goes ”I don’t think he loves me back” to ”He does love me back!”

I wish you all a very merry byler endgame in s5! 💚

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byersfolklore · 1 year

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i really just can’t doubt byler. i genuinely believe they’re endgame. if mike rejected will by the end of season 4 or if we saw will was moving on or he was given a potential love interest by now, i would most likely doubt it being endgame.instead…

- we see will’s love for mike in season 4 being shown as stronger than ever after multiple seasons of hinting it.

- a scene of will literally saying exactly how he feels for mike. him literally saying mike makes him feel like he’s not a mistake and better for being different. him saying he’ll always need him. him saying mike gives him the courage to fight on. him saying he inspires him. will literally saying mike is the heart.

- mike canonically feeling emotional by will’s love confession (it said he was emotional in the script) which he doesn’t know is will’s feelings yet.

- the show saving mike finding out the truth behind will’s painting for the finale season AND ALSO literally just saving mike finding out about will’s feelings overall.

- the show making us feel bad for will having to see mike, the boy he’s in love with, with someone else

- him still having feelings for the same boy that he’s been in love with for years EVEN AFTER NOT SEEING HIM AND BARELY HAVING ANY CONTACT WITH HIM FOR ALMOST A FULL YEAR

- we get multiple intimate moments and heart-to-hearts between them (one canonically being describes as an intimate moment in the script)

- mike’s last one on one scene in season four was with will and him comforting him and listening to him explain his connection to vecna/the upside down.

- in that last one on one scene we see the light shining directly on will and mike reaching out to will, showing how will is mike’s light. just like in the van scene where we see light shining on will when he’s expressing his love for mike and mike is looking at him and listening to what he’s saying

- the duffers saying the van scene was “an important scene to get right” and the fact that we know it took all day for them to film that scene because they wanted it to be perfect

- besides the fact that the duffers already confirmed there will be no new characters in season 5, they could’ve EASILY given / hinted at will having a boyfriend / potential future boyfriend in any of the other seasons before season 5. they didn’t.

- we know the duffers described season 5 as will’s COMING OF AGE and while we’ve seen his love for mike, we’ve never gotten mike’s POV and that’s being saved for the finale for a reason. will’s never been in a relationship on the show and they literally hinted at him falling in love in the very beginning of season 3 with the “ i’m not gonna fall in love “ line, for-shadowing how it’ll be important later on in the show. he’s not going to be single by the end of the season.

- “you’re the heart” playing during mike’s monologue for el which was will’s whole message to mike during the van scene while he was confessing HIS feelings for him. not to mention that he quite literally reminded mike “ don’t stop. you’re the heart. “ RIGHT BEFORE giving his monologue

- forshadowing of byler being a “team” in season 5

- and lastly, the very last shot of season 4 has byler standing in the middle of two canon couples. hopper and jancy are holding hands because they’re already together, but byler is placed in the middle for a reason.

really, there is just so much effort that’s been put into byler but ESPECIALLY IN THE MOST RECENT SEASON. there is a lot more proof i can point out, like parallels and other important stuff but really, these are the most convincing and most of these reasons are the ones that show how byler being endgame makes sense storytelling wise

#byler #stranger things #and the fact that they are doing all of this while mileven is still together atm #byersfolklore

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astrhae · 1 year

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i really enjoyed your latest six of crows fic!! this is probably going to sound so strange, but kaz's brief cameo was so on point that it made me wish for a concurrent fic of the other crows and what they're up to in this au

hi hello!! thank you so much 🥰 and that isn't strange at all! i'm really glad that you liked it down to all the little cameos 💙 i can't promise a concurrent fic but here's a little scene i deleted that has kaz in it (this is when wylan actually first meets kaz, a little bit after jesper reads their marriage contract for them)

"Why the change of mind?" Kaz didn't bother addressing Wylan. "All your letters until a month ago told me you despised your husband."

Jesper swallowed, and cast a guilty glance at Wylan, his fingers drumming nervously on the windowsil they were perched on. "I, uh," he shrugged, smile turning suddenly coy to smother his guilt, "was reminded of some things."

Kaz didn't look remotely impressed. He simply stood in the palace guest rooms they'd prepared for him and Inej, looking both distinctly out of place and perfectly suited to the gilded halls and carpeted floors. "I need to know I can trust your reasons, or I'll be taking my kruge on my walk to the palace vaults."

The only reason he doesn't steal from me, Jesper had told Wylan, is because good standing with the royal family is a better long term investment than a crown jewel.

"I blew someone up for him," Wylan answered before Jesper could, and that made Kaz turn to him, a hunter catching a sniff of prey.

"After I shot a guy for him," Jesper grumbled.

Kaz ran a gloved hand over the corner of a framed oil painting. De Kappel, the matching painting given to Wylan's father as part of his dowry. Stealing Wylan's flute from the mansion had turned out to be proof of concept: that it could be done.

"You didn't tell me your husband had marketable skills," Kaz said.

"I'm not for sale," Wylan frowned.

Jesper snorted at Kaz. "And if he was, you wouldn't be able to pay for him."

"Is that a challenge?" Kaz asked.

"Wylan's a sure bet," Jesper said, "Besides, it was a change of heart too."

What? Wylan didn't catch Kaz's little scowl, or what he muttered next, too busy running his mind over possibilities, turning Jesper's words around in his head. A change of heart -

"I've decided my terms of payment," the snap of Kaz's cane as he walked closer was muffled by the carpet, but it was sharp all the same. "I'd like Wylan as my consultant."

Jesper scrunched his nose. "No."

"Yes," Wylan said. He knew what Kaz had planned was likely illegal. He also knew that Jan Van Eck's accounting books never added up. "I can tell you everything you need."

"Let me rephrase," Kaz said. "I want you as a permanent consultant."

"He's a Prince!" Jesper protested.

Kaz raised a brow. "So are you. It's called career diversification."

Jesper groaned when Wylan laughed. "Wylan's already diversified into a royal mess."

Wylan sniffed. "I melted a table once, and I cleaned up the mess."

He declined to supply that he'd spilled the chemicals because he'd been a little distracted, by Jesper's little laugh, and the spin of the gun that followed.

"Melting tables," Kaz didn't allow himself to be sidetracked, his eyes taking an edge of wildness to them, a stormcloud flashing lightning. "What about melting locks and safes?"

Wylan nodded. "I just need to change the formula a little."

"See?" Kaz smirked. "Marketable skills."

Jesper groaned again, and Wylan wondered what he'd gotten himself into. Marriage, his mind supplied, and then friendship and family, and, as he thought of Kaz burning Van Eck's power to the ground, he thought, just maybe, home.

#asks #anon #wesper #fic: quid pro quo #my fics #shadow and bone #six of crows #wylan van eck #jesper fahey #i had to delete this because the fic was getting INSANELY long already #but i might one day write a companion fic with jesper's pov #where it's just jesper complaining about being married and kaz reminding jesper #that kaz runs a gambling hall #NOT a marriage consultancy #akdjdhdhdhdk i hope you enjoy this little snippet tho!

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holyvirgilscriptures · 7 months

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It's so funny when some fans can literally point out how Will loves and appreciates Mike for who he is unconditionally as a form of byler endgame proof (and anti mlvn proof). Yet when it comes to their own fanon interpretations of his character, suddenly Will is perpetually annoyed with Mike for no reason.

Fanon Mike is chacterized as an annoying loser who, by the grace of god, was allowed to have friends who tolerate him, but not without letting him know he's annoying. And Will? He's the Chief Ambassador of the Neutralizing Mike Comittee (The NMC™) who forever has to remind Mike that had he not said yes to being his friend on the goddam swingset almost 10 years ago, he would be nothing but a frogfaced nerd who has an enternal home in Loserdom.

It's not like Mike being his best friend means anything to him. It's not like Will wasn't brought to literal tears after essentially telling Mike how he's made personal, irreplaceable impact on his life, and how he would always have a place in his heart (as well as his other friends and family). Mind you, Will said all of that immediately after Mike expressed his own self-doubt and inferiority.

Some fans took Mike's nightmare fuel (personal insecurities) and decided it would make great wholesome byler content. Feels bad man... I wish they would let Will love Mike unconditionally like he does in canon.

(P.S. I went on a huge rant about Will's response to the rink o mania/rain scenes , but I didn't know how to get my point across in relation to this without going off the deep end lmfao)

can you marry me, please? 💍 this is a very good articulation of my own thoughts

my answer is very very long, so i'll put it under the cut:

i firmly believe a lot of fanon mike's characteristics are a reflection of the fandom's own anger towards him, starting from s3 onwards. for example — the concept of mike being overly clingy or having nerdy geeking out moments, and then will being annoyed by it? like i'm so sorry, people are not going to like what i say, but the opposite of that dynamic is what is literally canon in the show. in s3 will is attached to his childhood (and by extension his friends + mike) and tries to get all of them to play d&d, and then lucas and mike both scorn him. mike basically tells will to grow up.

now, am i saying that this is the dynamic i want to see portrayed in fics? no, of course not. in fact, the show itself makes it very clear that mike was in the wrong for treating will like that. and the audience was mad at mike. which is why i believe a lot of bylers write a role reversal of this, as some sort of comeuppance mike gets for s3 where he wasn't a good friend to will.

and as for mike being treated like he's the loserest loser in loserland, again, i think it just has a lot to do with people's anger towards him in s3 and s4, whether it's conscious or subconscious. when vol 2 came out everyone and their moms wanted to set fire to mike. people made soooo many jokes about will getting with another guy. all of this anger is also why people constantly peddle the "will is too good for mike" rhetoric as well.

the actors' appearances also come into play here. noah is broader and more toned than finn. that's also why buff byers became a thing, though noah's not really buff, he's just fit. buff byers also came from the idea that mike should be fucking groveling at will's feet, as repented for the way he treated will in s3-s4. like, "hey look! will is super strong and he's a chick/guy magnet and he could literally have any boy in the world!" and so they try to make this sort of disparity between both boys and put will on a pedestal compared to mike so that mike can do nothing but be his personal fanboy who should be grateful will even dared to look upon him.

i think that the van scene also added to people's anger towards mike. ranging from mike not noticing will crying (allegedly), to mike not realizing/accepting will's veiled love confession (allegedly). which is again, why we get more fan content of will not reciprocating mike's romantic affection. or people declaring that mike doesn't deserve will's love. it's just another role reversal.

which is so funny because like you said, will's love is unconditional. he openly admits to feeling lost without mike, but people like to pretend will was a happy little clown in california where everyone wanted a piece of him. and he admits that being mean or pushing mike away is NOT WHO HE IS NORMALLY. like seriously this is literally in the fucking show!!!

my answer is just mostly about byler but again just to note that all of mike's friends love him. they fight him or tease him but that's because they care. they find him annoying in the same way he would also find them annoying. because friends will annoy each other. but they still look up to him. in fact, all of them have had moments where one of their issues was literally the fact that they wanted mike's attention in one way or another.

mike IS a loser. but he's a loser in the sense that all of the party are losers. not in the way fanon portrays, where the party are somehow infinitely cooler than mike, who is written as a bottom of the barrel leech. (and also just to add here — people love over-exaggerating the idea of mike being "ugly" in canon, just so they can pair it with will "could attract literal gods" byers.)

and also, last one — mike is the heart of the party. there's no other way around it. he is their leader, and "without heart, we'd all fall apart" is literally THE most applicable thing to mike. when mike didn't act true to himself, not like the leader he normally is, that's when everything began falling apart. which is why i'm so hyped for s5, where we hopefully get to see mike come back to himself and truly lead the party as their paladin.

anyway marry me anon 💍💍💍

#virgil.ask #anonymous #fandom bs

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random kaz headcanons cause s2 kaz owns my heart

he can have full blown conversations in spanish (or french cause of the parapluie scene in mighty med) but for some reason, can't recognize that he's not speaking english

^it takes chase playing back a recording from his hard drive for him to realize

^then he'll playfully make fun of chase (for funsies) for having a hard drive

he really likes dying his hair and it either looks terrible and he'll cover it up or it will look amazing and people fall in love (he 100% had frosted tips once in his life and immediately regretted it)

^he covers all of the bad dye jobs with black dye and it shocks everyone when they find out that his supposedly natural hair color isn't actually natural

he can do a backflip (he just gives that vibe okay??)

he's actually a great cook but he's messy and doesn't want to use the elite force compound's kitchen because he's too used to his kitchen's layout back at home

he likes having people sit in his lap (like not in a sexual way, just like in general, it's comforting)

^there will be times when the elite force members will just sit on him (either cause they didn't notice or think they'll get a reaction out of him) and he won't even flinch, he'll just sit there, scrolling on his phone or having a conversation

he 100% makes "that's what she/he said jokes" (im right!! this is so right it's basically canon)

he owns thousands of hoodies but only wears the same 4-5

he wears vans (you can't convince me otherwise)

he had a klepto phase as a kid (literally in canon he steals pens a lot so im basically right)

he used to have a true crime podcast but made himself too scared to sleep so he stopped

^he's thinking of starting it up again now that he's less jumpy

he 100% just jumps and/or latches onto people for the fun of it

^chase will just be at his work station and suddenly there's a kaz hanging on his back. oliver will try to make a sandwich, and suddenly there's a kaz now attached to his torso and sandwich ingredients on the floor

getting dressed to go see movies was one of his favorite things as a kid (like how people wore pink for barbie and suits for the gru movie)

he can sleep standing up and even though the rats also technically sleep standing up it still freaks them out

^it also freaks skylar out (even though she's an alien)

he used to make fun of chase for owning sound-proof headphones (bc he wasn't using them for music) but after stealing chase's when he was out one day, he now owns a pair and loves them very dearly

he hates documentaries with a passion and will dramatically turn one off if someone dares watching one (even if he's in a different room)

okay it's getting lengthy so im gonna stop here

#mighty med #kaz mm #kaz mighty med #elite force #lref #lab rats #chase davenport #oliver mighty med #skylar storm #bree davenport #venux's headcanons

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a couple months ago I still lurked on sttwt and under one byler tweet there was this guy who asked why people think that will and mike are going to end up together, like it was a genuine question. and in his replies there was this byler shipper who for some reason started talking about hearts in finn's eyes in the van scene (not even finn's enamoured expression but like literal hearts made out of reflection of light 😭) I believe a lot of people from broader fandom think that bylers are delusional partly because a lot of bylers themselves don't understand why byler is going to be endgame and they talk about little details instead of talking about the storyline/writing/etc.

YESSS ive talked about this before but there’s this huge problem with bylers (especially on twt) not really having a full grasp on the narrative and that’s why they’re always losing confidence because it’s exactly as you said, they hold on to minute tiny details rather than the writing itself 😭 like its fine to look for proof in background details but i wish people stopped using them as their main points of evidence yk? it also feels silly to try convincing people with them cause some of them only make sense in the context of being deep into byler lore. instead of doing that i think its better to just explain why byler narratively makes sense, like the way the painting plot will play out in s5 or how will’s feelings for mike were developed in the same season as mike struggling to say ily to el. sorry but people are most likely not going to immediately believe us if we just talk about, lets say, closet imagery, but if we bring up how specific narrative/writing choices only make sense if they point to byler endgame then people might be more open to its possibility.

#byler #ask

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Ffs why is thmblr limiting the amount of words we can put in a comment? 😭

well, I believe from what I saw in the show that Will doesn't have internalized homophobia. He knows he is gay and he accepts it. I believe he is simply mad about himself for loving Mike the way he does. He believes he has no chance to end up with him. That's what hit my eyes the most when I was watching the show.

Idk I was also thinking:" why did the duffers make Will fall in love with Mike specifically when Byler was the purest friendship of the show?". They could have showed us Will pinning on boys just like they did with Robin or Dustin(with Max). Why Mike? It doesn't make sense to me unless the story isn't over. Now, how will this story end ? I don't know but it's not over.

I doubt Mike has internalized homophobia or at least I don't see it in the show. I think Mike is lost between what he wants and what people want him to be/do. This is why he lets his mom choose his clothes , this is why he is a fan of Eddie who is against conformity , this is why in season 3 he said that a boy and a girl are supposed to hang out together and make out a lot (when it's not true. He can have friends and be in a relationship. He shouldn't be forced to make his life about his relationship the way he thought he needed to do),... I may be wrong but this is what my neutral ass is telling me.

About the I love you, here is my take : I think Mike probably saw that his parents were telling each other ily in the past but Mike saw that their relationship is a big flop so I believe that since Mike isn't sure that El is the right person for him, he refuses to do like his parents and give her false hopes. He probably thinks that ily is a word you shouldn't tell anyone unless you're sure about your feelings. Now, he saw that El needed that ily and when she was almost dying in front of him, he probably thought about smth that would make El very happy and allow her to get stronger which is that ily word. Now, I believe that this ily was a little pushed because Mike really wanted to save El (he is the heart). It didn't come spontaneously. Pretty sure that if Will didn't remind Mike about what he told him in the van, that monologue would have never happened.This is why I am not sure Mike will be able to tell her ily that easily when she will ask him to unless Mike is sure about what he wants. If when he gets his shit together, he realizes that El is the one then I think he will definitely be able to tell it to her more easily but if he realises that it's other factors such as what people expect him to be that lead him to think that being with El was the right thing to do then he will tell her ily but this time he will make it clear to her that it's not romantically. I think that El's independent arc lead her to detach herself from Mike meaning that she doesn't have that codependency issues she had before. It's good.

Thank you for listening to me btw 🙌

lmao😭 alright it's gonna be a long message😭

1. "Will doesn't have internalized homophobia"

wrong, from the very first episode we already know that Lonnie was making fun of him and bullied him for a possibility that he's gay, also he was bullied in school, was it bc of the possibility of being gay? who knows, but later we have a scene between mike and troy at school- and why did mike react like this in the first place? because troy was making fun of his missing "dead" friend saying that he's gay, that might be the proof that Will was bullied for being "gay" in school not even knowing that he's actually gay (i think that if he knew already then he was trying to deny it) Now let's focus on s3- mike tells him "it's not my fault you don't like girls" it was not supposed to be homophobic!!!! from mikes pov Will was calling his girlfriend stupid only bc he's the only one in the party without a girl and who's not interested in that stuff (yet or yk👀) and who's fault is that? definitely not Mike's 🙄(actually yeah it is your fault Michael 😭😭😭) but how did Will reacted?? do u remember? he started to think that his priority is "stupid" and that he should let it go and focus on something else like the rest of the party. In s4 we can see that he's actually struggling with his feelings for mike, he said in the van scene something like this "and when you're different, sometimes you feel like a mistake" and let's not forget the part in the script "i hate who i am" . This is for everyone who thinks that mike has internalized homophobia- it's actually Will byers and duffer brothers were telling us that since the very beginning. It's about Will Byers, it always has been.

2." byler was the purest friendship of the show" well idk what to say here, it depends. Byler is special, because dustin,lucas,will- they're all Mike's friends, his best friends, and when dustin was trying to tell mike that lucas is his best friend, mike was really mad and said that dustin is his best friend too (and to prove it he jumped of the cliff for his teeth😭) mike is really loyal, he would never pick his favourite friend, he loves everyone, and every his friend is different and he acts different around them, for example: ofc that he will be nicer to Will than to lucas, Will is a little pookie and everyone is nice to him😭(whatever he likes it or not👀) (when they were joking around in s3 it ended really bad, that shows that Will is not a person that will take that with a distance) and lucas is more a person to joke and yk do all that stuff. But there's a difference from Will's pov and I'm not talking about his feelings for mike, it's about the fact, that he shares lucas with mike, and he shares dustin with mike, but mike himself is like a safe place for him, it was his first best friend, they met in kindergarten and they were a duo, I'll risk to say that mike was always the closest friend to will mostly bc of that, but mike doesn't have his fav, he's just more calm, caring and loving around Will than Dustin and Lucas cuz Will is different, he always has been different. Their relationship was special, but it got "ruined" in s3 when we can see that mike has different priorities than Will. And did they ruin their friendship? i don't think so, ofc they argued in s3-4 but it's important, it was a sign that their friendship is different from mike& lucas or mike&dustin ones. Will's coming out doesn't have to be the end of their sweet friendship, who said that?? like, we don't know anything yet, why does everyone think it's the end of their friendship and that there's something more? i think that it will help them to develop and become a really iconic and powerful duo in s5.

3. "i doubt mike has internalized homophobia" well here i agree but that's bc i believe he's straight lmao😭😭

4. i think mike exactly knows what he wants(or who🗿), but at the same time he wants to fit, he wants to be a normal teenager with a normal life and be happy.

5. About Mike's mom choosing his clothes- i think the best season for mike was s3, he was actually himself then, and he was wearing what he wanted to, in s1 he was wearing clothes that a good son from a big rich family wears, in s2 he was literally depressed and he did not care about that💀, and in s4 he was trying to look cool, for El, for Eddie, for himself. So yea s3 was his season. I think that the time between s3-4 mike was really lost (new school, he lost his girlfriend and best friend, he was extremely bullied by the whole school etc.) and he just did not care enough to focus on his clothes that much (until hellfire club)

6."he is a fan of Eddie" well actually he was 😚(😭). And it's actually a hard thing to talk about, i see it like this- it was just mike and dustin against the whole school, and then Eddie wanted them to join hellfire, it's better to be with someone that with everyone yea? so they wanted to join, they wanted to be a part of something, they wanted to fit. We can see a huge difference between how Eddie treated Dustin and how Eddie treated Mike. That's probably the reason why mike felt like he needs to change his look (hair, clothes) to fit and be liked like Dustin.

7. "he said that a boy and a girl are supposed to hang out together and make out a lot" well not exactly. Also let's remember that it's his first relationship and he's 14, he was dealing with a horrible trauma cuz he thought El is dead so now they wanted to spend all their time together. People can say whatever they want, but mike was paying attention to his friends, maybe not as much as before El but that's not surprising, oh god they were young teenagers in love leave them alone. El is the one people should worried about cuz she literally had no life except mike, so yea max helped a lot here, she helped El to find herself, also it's very important that El finally have her own friend, and not a friend that she shares with mike.(see i said "have"😽 can't say that anymore 😭😭😭😭) but El changed after s3, and I'm sure that they are more mature rn, and their relationship will never look the way it did at the beginning of s3 again.

8. about the ily i have my own perspective, but if u believe that mike is gay or anything like that then u won't even listen to me and i don't wanna argue with a wall😭😭 but I'm focusing on Mike's character since 2019 and i still believe he's straight. Let's remember that yea he loves El but in common we have a huge trauma about losing her again, he said that he loves her when something bad was about to happen and no one was listening to him ( in s3) but this time it was different, he was scared that she's just going to leave him cuz she doesn't need him anymore (i mean she was lying to him about how perfect life she has in lenora without him so i don't blame him) and he was scared to say it, he was scared that if he will then she will leave him sooner than she already planned. Ofc it might be connected to his parents, he doesn't really use a word "love" but he's just an awkward teenager, talking about feelings is never easy and some people have a bigger problem with that and it's okay, that's exactly what makes this show real. The monologue was honest, I'm sorry but mike is literally such a loyal, caring, and loving character, he would never, NEVER say to her that he can't live without her only for her to save the world and then to leave her for her brother(or literally anyone else)he would never do that. And Will wouldn't even allowed him to do that anyway 😭 the whole theory is wild to me.

9. have u seen the leaked mileven s5 scene? well, we don't know what are they talking about, but we can see how mature mike is. He's way calmer when he talks to her, he's not losing his words like he does rn, and their conversation looks way better than the ones they already had, so i feel like it's not about mike who doesn't know what he wants, it's just about 14 old awkward teenager who's struggling with opening up about how he feels. People really blame mike that he can't say it straight to El, but did Will manage that? no. And that's totally okay, they're just teenagers, we need to stop judge them so bad😭

sorry that it's so long and late!!😭😭😭

#stranger things

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So... THAT OST, plays at this precise moment:

Directly when Will says "Well we used to be bestfriends!" and the camera goes on Mike. Why would THAT OST start AT THIS DAMN MOMENT. So PRECISE?

So, I see the M*leven shippers, coming like "No but because El is in a closet!!" nuh uh, she's not. She's in the "Employees only" room. Not in a closet. So of course they called the OST like that so you can be triggered. LOGIC. But they had to precise "At Rink O Mania" of course... Of course 🏳️‍🌈

And THAT OST's name, totally not said by Will to Mike in the van scene, is used when Mike tells I love you to El. Why. Would. The. Ost. Be. Called. What. Your. Damn. Best. Friend. Told. You. It should be called "I Love You" or even "You're My Superhero" I would've even accept "You Can Move Mountains" but NOT THAT. Like, I'm seriously thinking this is the biggest proof so far. Or maybe the biggest proof is that after his love confession, we didn't even get a heart to heart scene, or a scene when they kiss, no, instead Mike just answers to Will's question, which was "Did she talk to you at all?" By saying "No. I MeAn, NoT VeRY mUch" But I'll keep that for another time...

#byler #byler nation #byler tumblr #byler is endgame #byler is canon #mike wheeler #finn wolfhard #will byers #noah schnapp #stranger things #love #this is wild #just the facts

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therainscene · 1 year

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How gay love is going to save the world: Byler Analysis Masterlist

🧟‍♂️ = Character study; 🌈 = Queer themes in ST; 🎲 = Symbolism; ⚔️ = S5 predictions (pre-TFS); ⏰ = S5 predictions (post-TFS)

Will, Henry, and queer villainy

🧟‍♂ Vecna as a metaphor for Will’s struggle with homophobia

⚔️ Will has superpowers and they’re super gay

🧟‍♂️ Good vs. evil: Henry and Will as narrative foils

🧟‍♂ Be gay do crime: Will and Henry and breaking the rules

🌈 Crazy together: Byler, Cthulhu, and cosmic horror

🧟‍♂ In defense of queer interpretations of Henry

The Strangest Things were the lessons we learned

🌈 How the mothers of ST raise their queer children

🌈 Vecna & the Mind Flayer: who is the true Big Bad of ST?

🌈 How ST depicts Mike’s struggle with being in the closet

🌈 Why I stopped being anti-Byler

🌈 But it was the 80s: is Will destined for a bleak ending?

Be gay do time travel

⚔️ A primer on extra-dimensional travel

⚔️ The origin of the Mind Flayer (& ⏰post-TFS thoughts)

⏰ Will’s time-travelling coming-of-age

Miscellaneous other essays

🧟‍♂ Musings on Will’s trust issues

🎲 Rod motifs in Will’s character arc

🌈 Why the themes of ST make Byler endgame inevitable

⚔️ Does Mike think Will is in love with El? (part 1)

⚔️ Does Mike think Will is in love with El? (part 2)

Bite-sized Byler bits

🎲 Very serious grave-digging tool analysis

🎲 How Suzie’s siblings foreshadow the S4 finale

🧟‍♂️ The symmetry of Byler and the van scene

🎲 Edgar Allan Poe analyzes the scrapyard heart-to-heart

⚔️ S4 parallels that foreshadow Will’s importance in S5

⚔️ Will's missing rainbow

🌈 The pizzeria heart-to-heart as a Byler proof

⚔️ Does Jonathan suspect Mike is queer?

#stranger things #byler #my analysis #reblogged analysis

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luckybyler · 2 years

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While we've all been busy overanalyzing frogs and colors in the background, I have checked posts and videos and haven't seen a single mention of the biggest common sense proof in season 4 that Byler is a thing that can happen (and/or that Mike knows in a way/isn't 100% straight). Not even in the billion slides Byler bible. And it's that when they had that fight at Rink-O-Mania, even when Mike says "We're friends. We're friends", the explanation and the whole conversation happen on top of the foundation that Will is entitled to that explanation and the discussion is worth having. If your friend is asking you things like "what about us?" and demanding to know why he doesn't get tons of letters like your girlfriend, the heterosexual response in that situation would be:

"You high, bro?"

Not for a moment, not even the next day when Mike apologizes for being a self-pitying idiot and Will apologizes for being a jerk to El, hell not even when Mike is in defensive mode the day before, does it occur to him (or Will, for that matter) that the whole conversation was utterly ridiculous in the first place. Not the fact that Will felt left out as a friend of course, but just... the whole thing. Mike, consciously or unconsciously, legitimizes it.

Also in the van scene, there's a good amount of seconds between the moment when Will gives Mike the painting and when Will says that El commissioned it. Mike looks happy (of course) but that's not the (only) point: it's that at no point does he look even the littlest bit puzzled or confused. It's like, "my financially challenged male friend who was mad at me until today spent months and money making a painting for me and he painted my shield as a heart (as you do)!!! This is so cool and totally normal!!!"

And back to the Rink-O-Mania fight: Poor El. She had just been horribly bullied, had hidden, and Mike and Will went to look for her but first, let's have a lover's best friends' quarrel in the middle of the place! I was honestly kinda mad at the moment. The whole time I was like, "the girl!!! What about the girl??? step outside yourselves for a second and go find her!" Mike did say that in the end, but it was as in "I'm tired of arguing, let's find her" rather than as in "what are we doing? this is not the time for this, El needs us!"

#stranger things #byler proof #byler #will byers #mike wheeler #byler season 4

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i am a mileven truther, but recently i have been seeing why maybe it isnt so good, i do believe will is obviously gay, but i believe mike is straight

i could ship byler, but i genuinely think mike is straight

so tell me why i should believe mike is not straight

convince me

Hello! I am glad you are here and are curious about it!

I will point you out to

my bi!Mike power point

where you can find out what I think is happening in the show and all the proof, I think Mike is bi, he was attracted to El in the first seasons but is now attracted to Will and dealing with feelings of confusion 😊

you can also find the original byler power point

here

where there is more detail into all the little things that could be queercoding for foreshadowing Byler endgame!

but in the end the proof I think is more compelling is how the narrative is written for the characters and how much time they make Mike & Will spend together in the show and have heart to hearts instead of Mike & El, I think that if mileven was going to be the endgame ship they have done everything wrong for them and haven't shown them really being in love in the show, you only need to compare how the other relationships like Lumax, jancy and jopper are very different from how they wrote Mike x El in the show to see that they are probably not going to be the endgame ship for Mike!

they also put this precise parallel in the show and it wouldn't make any sense to purposefully write it in the show if it meant nothing

this is how Finn decided to act in the van scene while looking at Will and listening to Will talk about his own feelings for Mike, even if Mike is confused and thinks that those are El's feelings they are not, not entirely!

Mike has fallen in love with those words and Will lying about the painting in that way is a writing choice that is the same used in the movie IT with the couple Ben and Beverly and it is such a big lie that it can't be put there and not come out eventually...

Also they put these moments between them in the show and it wouldn't make sense if it wasn't to build a romance imo

+ they didn't show El responding to Mike's I love you after the monologue and even made her look weirdly at Mike... why are there still problems between them at this point? there is something else going on...

they also filmed the monologue with Will in frame when Mike says "i love you" ... that is an intentional choice that makes the moment between Mike and El very very weird... and for the whole speech Mike was told by Will to initiate it, he didn’t do it on his own... that's another choice of the writers

if byler is not the endgame couple they fucked up mileven so bad that if I was a mileven shipper I would be furious!

Also they queercoded Will in the previous seasons to show that he was queer secretly... like there is a rainbow in Will's Ghostbusters costume and he's the only one with the rainbow, they make Joyce talk about the rainbow ship he drew when he was little, there is also a rainbow when he destroys Castle Byers in s3... there is a girl with a rainbow belt behind him at rink o mania

and are doing the same thing for Mike putting him constantly near rainbows (LGBT symbol) and near open closets ( there is the saying "to come out of the closet") with one way sign because Mike stays in the closet this season imo... there is also a rainbow line connecting Will and Mike in the van scene!

they also used a rainbow for Vickie that is confirmed to be bisexual by the actress playing her and that is going to be with Robin next season :)

anyway there is much more in the power points and I hope you take the time to look at them!! Also in my pinned post in the blog you can find many other parallels and stuff!! :)

I think it's fun :)

#byler #will byers #mike wheeler #ask #byler proof

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