#trans men are men. if you are a woman and you like trans men then you like men.

[classicslesbianopinions]

in ovid's metamorphoses he describes an argument between jupiter and juno where they debate whether men or women experience more sexual pleasure. jupiter says women do; juno says men do. obviously this is a weird fucked up they-ought-to-be-divorced sort of couple dynamic but anyway then they bring in tiresias, a man who apparently was once transformed into a woman and then back into a man seven years later, to be the judge. tiresias says women have more fun during sex and juno takes away his eyesight for disagreeing with her and then jupiter gives him the gift of prophecy to compensate. but that's just one person's opinion. so:

no see results. if you're not trans/haven't gone on hormones/don't have sex come back in a week. i also am not on hormones and will not be answering or seeing the results until the poll is over. (if you used to be on hormones and aren't anymore feel free to answer for how you felt while you were on hormones.)

feel free to put any nuances in the replies or reblogs or tags--but also no one is obligated to share details of their transition unless they want to and feel comfortable doing so.

disclaimer also that i personally do not equate a person's hormones or sex characteristics with their gender identity--i use "man" and "woman" for tiresias because it's the language ovid uses but of course gender is way more nuanced than that. i use "transmasc" and "transfem" as umbrella terms but recognize that they might not apply to everyone.

my hypothesis is that people who choose to go on hormones/have surgery will have more sexual pleasure on hormones/after surgery because they are having an experience that better aligns with their gender. and please don't feel like you need to separate out the physical experience from the emotional--both physical and emotional pleasure are relevant to whether or not an orgasm is good.

uhh and i promise no gods will blind you as a result of this poll.

#mod felix #oh also i know there are a lot of different types of bottom surgeries etc but i can't specify every single one in a tumblr poll #ALSO ALSO i should say this is by no means meant to represent every possibility it is just a list of common circumstances #i assume if you were doing a real study you would do it very differently but this is a passing curiosity turned into a tumblr poll

[euniexenoblade]

re: egg discourse

i thought it was just people saying that specifically making jokes about someone being trans but not knowing it yet can be kinda invalidating and sometimes traumatic. are people actually saying you should never tell someone that they might be trans?

i dont really have a side in the debate it just feels like people are willfully misunderstanding eachother and its making my brain hurt

"making jokes about someone being trans but not knowing it yet can be kinda invalidating and sometimes traumatic"

Sure, but it also isn't for a lot of people. And, a lot of people I talk to say egg jokes helped them realize who they were. Though I do think part of this resistance to an egg joke is actually internalized transphobia at points (the idea of being compared to trans people is being treated as degrading in a lot of these people's arguments) the truth of the matter is different people need and want different things. Me making eggs jokes with my friends is not your friend group.

This is why the recurring complaint of our side is it's never egg jokes can make people uncomfortable, 'make sure your friends are cool with them before just doing them,' it's always complaining about trans women forcing cis men to be women or trans women being "transvestigators" or "similar to Christian missionaries." People who are uncomfortable with egg jokes are always projecting their discomfort onto other people, other friend groups, and portray harmless fun between friends as something abusive.

Like for example,

this is a projection. the egg jokes people are talking about happen among friends and stuff, but this person is doing a whole "never make egg jokes because people did it about me and made me feel bad" (oh woe is you, people thought you might be transgender, how disgusting to be a tranny). The majority of egg jokes are not about random ass people, it's within friend groups. And, if you don't like your friends saying them, tell them to stop. If they don't? Then stop being their friends. Also from that post

The underwater filter butchered that. I know you can't read it but I wanted to post it cuz fucking look at that. What the hell. Anyways,

This opposition to egg joke people always talk about strangers. As if we're walking up to random people on the street and making egg jokes about them. It's mostly contained to friend groups. This is just an inaccurate portrayal of what's actually being discussed, and I'm sure the op will be like "I'm talking about my experience!" but OP openly admitted that this rant was relevant to a random blogger complaining about an egg tweet a woman made about her own friend group that neither this OP or that blogger are part of. They are actually dictating how strangers are allowed to act and identify with this, not the egg jokesters.

Yeah, once and a while you get shit like "Aaron Bushnell seems transfem" which was a completely innocuous convo that no one would have seen if well known transmisogynists who accuse random trans women of pedophilia like three times a year hadn't found the post. It was a trans woman seeing herself in someone important in history, and even if someone said something inappropriate, the backlash was undeserved. Yall say embarrassing shit all the time and no one's running you off the web site for it.

I'm sorry this person and others seem to have a bad time with egg jokes (though most of the time, what they describe isn't egg jokes but that's a whole other thing), but their few experiences can not be used to determine a blanket response to something so many people actually do enjoy and find useful. I'm especially not gonna take a cis person's opinions on egg jokes seriously (since so many have seemed to gotten involved and think their opinion on this matters).

"are people actually saying you should never tell someone that they might be trans?"

Yes! That's like, the entire underlying premise of this! Like, 100% this is the backbone of every anti-egg joke argument. That's the entire concept of "egg prime directive." And, it's overwhelmingly weaponized against trying to help transfems realize themselves sooner than they would. From the aforementioned Bushnell drama, to the polls where a shit ton of transmascs voted it was ok to tell an eggy friend they might be a trans man but NOT ok to tell an eggy friend they might be a trans woman, to the newest drama where chongoblog whined about a random trans woman on twitter making egg jokes about her friend (which it was later revealed chongoblog misrepresented the tweet), the anti egg joke committee / "You can't tell anyone they're trans!!!" crew are always wielding this ideology against transfems / trans women but practically never against transmascs.

This is why it's constantly said that these posts and arguments are transmisogynistic in nature. "I'm a trans woman and I say eggs jokes are bad, so it can't be transmisogynistic you're just using that as a shield!" That's great but 1) maybe read between the lines, or read the criticisms you're clearly ignoring and maybe you'll see these people don't respect you 2) the whole "using transmisogyny as a shield" is like, classic transmisogyny at this point. We've been hearing that from anti-feminists, cryptoterfs, and trans woman hating google doc writers for a few years now and 3) you being complicit doesn't mean we gotta care about what you say.

"it just feels like people are willfully misunderstanding eachother and its making my brain hurt"

Oh, I'm sure this is absolutely the case. The problem is a bunch of transphobes are really who spurred a lot of this drama up earlier this year and instead of people thinking "oh these people have bad intentions I shouldn't boost this" they instead were like "Yeah! I don't like egg jokes!" and now we have to deal with trans women making egg jokes (normal, harmless, pro-trans and literally want to help trans people) being compared to transvestigators (a literal anti-trans hate group thing). The issue is people aren't treating us as people, and thus it gets returned in kind.

What's the answer to this? Mutual understanding that "some people need to be told they're trans," "some people don't respond well to being told who they are," "egg jokes can help people and be a fun joke for friends," and "some people are uncomfortable with egg jokes" can all coexist. But, honestly, I don't think we'll ever get there.

#and final note: this is not hostile to the asker #it's just me finally dissecting the disk horse instead of being a mean dick about it #asks #ranting #egg discourse

[yaoiboypussy]

hey can i ask you a genuine question? i need some advice, and asking other folks has left me with a blank board.

do you have any tips on how i should approach a friend of mine, who is cis lesbian, and thinks that she cannot fetishize mlm based on her identity, and that trans men cant be oppressed? everytime we debate she throws a fit and uses her place as a woman in fandom to shut me down. im unsure who else to ask at this point, i apologize ^^;

i understand if this sounds like discourse bait, so i can come off anon and provide screens to you if you need

Honestly at that point I’d just cut her off at that point, she clearly has made up her mind and will shut down anyone telling her otherwise. don’t waste your energy dealing with people like that - it will ruin your mental health.

#.txt #anon #asks

[tirfpikachu]

saying that transmisogyny is worse than anti-afab misogyny is bs.

the male privilege that male-passing transmascs experience is conditional. the misogyny that female-passing transfems experience is also conditional. transmisogyny, while horrible in its own way, is a totally different experience than regular misogyny. it hinges on transfems being stealth. society still often sees transfems as men and transmascs as women if their agabs are known, and shockingly enough people viewed as men do not face misogyny. transmisogyny yes, in the definition of the term, but not misogyny. they are only mistaken for afab and treated based on that assumption. transfems need to stop acting like they are the Most Oppressed in every situation and like transmisogyny is worse than the misogyny afab ppl face; in many situations, afab people actually would face it unconditionally while transfems experience a conditional misogyny, which turns into a mix of sexism (seen as a man in a dress) and homophobia (gnc amab ppl assumed to be gay) once outed. the creepy guys pursuing them when they're stealth usually see them as gnc men once they know they're amab. they then react in terrible, at times violent ways, but not in the misogynistic way that an afab person would've faced in that scenario.

afab folks also usually have faced misogyny for wayyy longer than the transfems have and really should have more of a voice on patriarchal topics. but it's become the norm to view cis women as oppressors and transfems as inherently more oppressed. that's so unhinged!! being a cis woman or transmasc is traumatic as hell, in a way that transfems will never fully understand. afabmisogyny, or whatever anti-afab misogyny should be called, is what the term misogyny originally referred to; the oppression of people from the category which are typically born with vaginas and usually grow breasts in their natural estrogen puberty, without needing hormones or surgeries. aka the sex that produces large gametes. transfems were generally unable to pass as women when naked for the grand majority of their existence on earth, and statistically the majority of transfems still have their dicks, they don't 100% pass as female. so they wouldn't be met with misogyny after outed, rather with sexism and homophobia. transmisogyny primarily involves the intense stress of keeping one's agab secret, sexism, homophobia, and the way that androgynous bodies are fetishized. it's not even uncommon for transfems to feel gender euphoria when experiencing misogyny bc they're finally seen as the opposite sex/agab!! if you agree that way too many people see all amab ppl as men and all afab ppl as women, then transfems being found out to be amab means the conditional anti-afab misogyny they experienced would then come to an end. they may be treated as circus animals, unfortunately, but most creepy men (emphasis on most) do not want to touch another dick sexually and the thought that the person grew up amab is a huge turn off. just like most lesbians. hence the movie trope of a guy kissing a trans woman and throwing up after knowing she's amab... that's just how sexuality works for most folks. what transfems would probably face in that scenario is still fucked up, or at best rejection, but it wouldn't usually be the bad misogynistic shit that afab ppl would face.

it's not a competition between the two forms of oppression, especially now that physical transition is a thing and being stealth is easier than it's ever been. transfems go through a lot of really bad stuff bc society hates gender nonconformity. but it's misogynistic af when transfems insist that transmisogyny is worse and that cis women and transmascs have it easier for "only" experiencing misogyny and not transmisogyny. it sucks when afab ppl have to put in the work to be good allies to transfems but you can't ask transfems to do the same or you're a terfy bitch. an amab person identifies as a woman and is instantly the woman that needs to be uplifted the most, and everyone else is more privileged and should shut the fuck up. transfems being misogynistic isn't allowed to be called out, them being amab and having benefited from patriarchy from a young age and not risked misogyny til recently can't be mentioned anymore. it's not healthy for leftist spaces. afab-unique oppression isn't less bad than transmisogyny. cis women and transmascs face shit that transfems will never experience, or if they do, it's misdirected bc they're mistaken for being one of us and it all rests on them staying stealth. some transmascs experience misdirected transmisogyny, if they pass as male and are feminine enough!! and transfems experience conditional misogyny!! the defensiveness from transfems and some of their allies is really cringe and y'all need to get over yourselves and embrace nuance, and speak up for afab rights!

#lay text #transandrophobia #radblr #research tag #my words

[runawaysiren940]

It’s always infuriating to see how TIMs react to Black women who are against gender ideology.

“You’re Black you MUST support trans women because your womanhood is also attacked!”

First off, Black women aren’t anyone’s mules so stop acting like they exist to save everyone.

Second, the masculinization of Black women is a form of sex based oppression.

When white men were sexually assaulting enslaved women or domestic workers en masses, they needed a way to keep their hands clean. They knew exactly who the women were. Because they knew who to ‘masculinize’ in the first place. They even compared raping black women to raping animals. White men took black women’s human status away not just their womanhood.

You, mister white biological male, are not experiencing that. You’re just a white man being told the truth, and I’m sorry that it hurts your feelings for a black woman to always be ‘more of a woman’ than you even if you don’t think she deserves to be.

And the kicker is every time a black woman rejects gender ideology the TIM klan meeting begins. But trans women understand black women the most right? Supporting trans women helps protect black women, right?

This is probably the hundredth time I saw a black woman being called a man by TIMs and their supporters for not validating a white trans woman. The comments are as racist as they come.

But then again most white trans are ex 4channer basement dwellers. Shocker.

I wish I could be surprised by the overt racism in the TRA movement, but considering that many of them admit to being incels, and white supremacists prior to transing? It just goes to show that so many of them co-opt the language and struggles of other groups to validate their own, but don't actually care about those groups in the slightest. TIM's in particular, especially those who are not homosexual, tend to be self-centered, and that's perfectly reflected in the use of black women as pawns in their arguments.

#radfem #radblr #radical feminism #runawaysiren

[loveerran]

Utah Bathroom Ban

In an effort to protect women and children from a problem that does not exist, Utah legislators recently passed, and the governor recently signed into law, HB 257. Among other things, this bill defines criminal penalties for improper use of a binary, sex-designated (male or female) restroom in a government owned or controlled space that does not correspond to one's assigned sex:

"Going into a bathroom that is not consistent with your birth gender, or your birth sex, you are putting yourself at greater risk. I think that’s the best way for everybody to look at it and say, ‘How do I avoid risk? How do I avoid risk of arrest?'" - Senate sponsor of HB 257 Dan McCay

As a trans woman who has been out and about for 20 years, what I hear in this quote is very specifically: "We want you to be scared when you use a bathroom that doesn't align with your assigned sex at birth. You already know someone may report you just for being there and the criminal justice system is horrible for trans women, so maybe you'll think twice before trying to pee when out in public."

And it works. I am reminded I am different and should be scared of what will happen if the wrong person is having a bad day, reports me to the bathroom monitoring authorities, and some cop starts making choices that put me in a difficult or dangerous situation. Stories of abuses suffered by trans women in the system are legion.

But I don't think my situation is the real problem here. In practical terms, this bill means a trans kid can't use a school restroom that aligns with their gender identity and/or presentation. Instead, they have to develop a 'privacy plan' with the school and use separately designated facilities or a faculty restroom, etc. - reinforcing that they are 'other'. This is very dangerous and will create victims and we have actual data and studies to back up that assertion.

Let me restate: There is data demonstrating that bathroom restrictions hurt gender non-conforming kids, with a reported increase in the sexual assault rate of nearly 50% when bathroom restrictions of this type are in place.

My wife points out "I would be safer in a men's restroom than you. Most men will actually try to protect women, but that doesn't apply to trans women. Quite the opposite."

The sponsors of the bill could not name a single instance of trans kids being a problem in spaces aligned with their gender identity. Not one single incident for them to rely on. And they ignored evidence indicating there are actual harmful effects. This bill makes a small, marginalized group of people more likely to be victims of violence.

This issue was so important to the Utah legislature that they devoted a substantial portion of the 1st two weeks of the legislative session to HB 257, including significant changes after the public comment period passed.

When the bill went live on May 1, the Utah State Auditor's office began being flooded with false reporting (I love you all :)!). The Auditor's office responded by publishing what can only be described as a scathing indictment of the situation:

"the Office created the complaint form to comply with a statutory mandate – a role we did not request. Indeed, no auditor sets out to become a bathroom monitor... Like many in the public, we learned about our role under this bill shortly before the bill was rushed to final passage. I recognize that many Utahns feel trampled by an invasive and overly aggressive Legislature that too often fails to seek input from those most affected."

Thank you to everyone who continues to fight for us on this issue. There aren't enough of us to win this on our own. We need your help.

#I don't want to hide that trans masculine individuals are very frequently the assault victims #even though the panic is around protection of afab individuals in women's spaces #protect people #lgbt #lgbtqia+ #trans #transgender #Utah HB 257

[finndoesntwantthis]

AEW should just let me design a whole Pride themed line for them like I have many ideas

-GAYew in flowery font and rainbow print

-FTR: “bottom guys” “verse guys”

-STRAPLANDER and it’s just Kris smirking

-“BI-God Kenny Omega” that’s got an anime style portrait of him but he’s wearing eyeliner and eyeshadow and mascara in the bi pride colors

-the Acclaimed merch doesn’t even need to change just be released in more color combos for various flags

-“I Support Gay Divorce” phrase with various broken marriage combos like Eddie/Mox, Edge/Christian, Kenny/Hangman, Orange/Chuck/Trent, etc

-“protect Trans athletes” with a picture of Nyla biting through the state of Oklaholma

-“Love is Timeless” with Mariah snuggled up to Toni’s breast in the lesbian pride colors (or black and white idk)

-one of those shirts that’s like “check off your gender” and the options are Man, Woman, Non-binary, and Cowboy. This would have a little cartoon of Hanger wearing a rainbow bandana

-something with Hangman riding on a Unicorn

-“Love Wins” with the men’s or women’s title belt at the waist

- something Golden Lovers idk how about just An Golden Lovers Shirt at all

-“Girls will be Girls” with Julia performing witchcraft like making a potion and the smoke/bubbles coming out of the potion are in the lesbian pride flag colors

-“I’m gayer than you and you know it” with a rip off of the rainbow Burberry print

#I COULD GO ON. #aew #mine #someone get me in contact with their merch department #the rainbow Burberry print is real btw #kenny omega #hangman adam page #christian cage #jon moxley #mjf #eddie kingston #julia hart #kris statlander #FTR #the acclaimed #adam copeland #chuck taylor #orange cassidy #trent beretta #nyla rose #toni storm #mariah may

[redditreceipts]

staring blankly, brain filled with white noise.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LesbianActually/s/odNq1HScKX

okay, let's go through this sentence by sentence.

first of all, I'd say that this person started out very good. I mean I don't know whether I'd define patriarchy as a system of division of labour, because child-rearing under patriarchy is not so much labour (in the Marxian sense) as it is organ trade. This is also why the woman is not selling her working hours, but her body is being sold to her husband without her being an active agent in the process. Just like the sexual commodities that are demanded of a woman are not really labour, but more organ-renting. So I think that womanhood under patriarchy is not really comparable to the relationship between capitalist and worker, because the worker is selling his work and not his body, and he is (at least nominally) an active agent in that process. Also, under capitalism there is a competition between the workers that allow a capitalist to replace the worker, while under patriarchy, there is not really a competition among women in the same sense that there are several women waiting to replace one woman in case the man wants another one

there is where things go south. So here, they say that transfemininity is socially undervalued due to their inability to be reproductive capital. From what I understood, the person meant that trans women are attacked because they can not rear children and are therefore not "valuable" in the eyes of patriarchy. While that's true, OP before correctly acknowledged that patriarchy is not just about a woman's reproductive capability. The root of patriarchy is a woman's reproductive capability, but that's not the full extent; a trans woman could make herself "useful" in a patriarchal sense in doing housework, being a nanny, being sexually available to men etc. (not to say that this is what makes a trans woman valuable, just saying that this is how things would work under patriarchy if trans women were women)

So the problem here is that the person conflates gender non-conformity with being trans. To be a trans woman you don't have to reject masculinity. You could be the most manly man with a beard and still identify as a woman, and you could be a gay male with breast implants that is 10 years on HRT and still identify as a man. By this guy's analysis, the former should be more oppressed than the latter. He is right in that patriarchal structures react allergically to men not behaving in a masculine way, but being masculine or feminine doesn't have anything to do with being trans. Being trans is about identity.

But I kinda don't get if OP meant that trans women reject masculinity (which many don't), or if he meant that trans women reject the notion of being a man (which is meaningless). If he meant the latter, it literally wouldn't matter, because you can reject your own manhood as much as you can reject your own whiteness or your own age. Your manhood is totally unaffected by whether you reject it or not, you're still a man lmao

no patriarchal reactionary has ever thought about a trans man that that trans man is bettering themselves by being a man. In the eyes of a patriarchal reactionary, the trans man is a woman, so there is no point in "becoming a man" if you're a woman. Also, trans men are statistically more attacked than trans women, it's just underreported because nobody gives a shit about women

"Trans lesbians are hated because they don't make themselves commodities for the consumption of men" - this just doesn't make sense. There are many groups that don't make themselves sexual commodities for the consumption of men; like straight men for example. Why do straight men face less vitriol, while trans "lesbians" do? What is the difference between a straight man and a trans "lesbian"? Well, one claims to be a woman while the other accepts the reality of being a man. Could it therefore be that maybe the hostile reaction comes because of the ludicrous assertion that one is a woman when they are obviously a male, and not from them making themselves sexually available to men?

So here it just goes down into absolute stupidity. What can you even say. What "TERFs" is this guy exactly talking about?

What TERF is sexually harassing trans women? 😭Please, show me just one? And now, the fetish story on reddit about how you like being degraded by a terf doesn't count lol

you are not a lesbian, you are a straight man

the only reason people see you as "damaged" is because they think that you're severely mentally deranged

please stop talking in Marxian terms when materialism is clearly your biggest ideological enemy

Sincerely, a bisexual radfem

#radblr #radical feminists do interact #radical feminism #radical feminists please touch #feminism #gender critical #gc feminism #gc feminist #gender abolition #radfems please touch #radfems please interact #radfem safe #autogynephilia #agp #listen to trans women #misogyny #reddit #patriarchy #gender roles #gender ideology #gender stereotypes #sex not gender

[collectivenothingness]

You're a random based stranger but I need to vent real quick. I'm losing my mind, I feel like every day misogyny seeps more into circles I'm in. Queer spaces don't give a fuck and perpetuate it with nice flowery progressive language.

I can't do this anymore, all the conversations about being a woman are taken over or watered down by men, everything had to be about men, men are the most oppressed, men suffer from the patriarchy, it's never men's fault, you're a misandrist, men men men.

I genuinely can't do this it's so sad in queer circles to see this and I hear my friends do this too. I just had a conversation with a friend who is a queer trans woman and who said it's ok for leftist men to be misogynistic against TERFSs, like no!!! This is getting terrifying even if youre not a TERF!!!! I don't want men to have more ground to be misogynistic without questioning themselves. I'm genuinely tired of the whole "white women" "straight women" loops they find.

Just urgh. I feel like I'm surrounded by people who should know better and everytime I point out misogyny I get told that I'm seeing things.

I'm sorry to hear, anon. That is very alienating, yeah :(

The thing is that most progressive people don't really believe in social classes or power dynamics between them or systems of oppression. They believe in ideas and archetypes and good stories instead.

They use the same language but to them misogyny or racism just mean suffering mistreatment because of some characteristics you have, so they are open to misandry and narratives about how men have been neglected and left behind.

You and I might think of the patriarchy as a social structure of oppression directed from one group against another, but they don't. Patriarchy is explained conspiratorially as the work of only a small elite or as an unpersonal gestalt that arises from the system with no individual truly at fault or perhaps it's the fault of men and women equally.

Or they may briefly recognize some talking point they heard to discard the idea of social power dynamics altogether, "gender is fake" after all. They might think in terms of sex-based oppression because it's "based in nature"; all while having TERFs DNI in their bio of course. Bioessentialism is a big one in general and it crops up again and again and again. Everywhere.

Oppression Olympics is a loaded term but a lot of people really do conceptualize your suffering that way. You get scored based on which characteristics you are oppressed on, weighted by their beliefs about which are worse, which is based on their impressions of the vibes they get from discourse. Just being a woman rarely cuts it now, especially because MRAs can just sell them the right talking points and they'll swallow them up because it's all the same to them. Heard vs. Depp. They just want a good story.

And since misogyny is just a targeted aggression, where is the harm in letting a redeemed man use it against an evil woman, right? Isn't that what justice is? lol.

Let's cut it here though. It's tiring stuff.

#ask

[trans-androgyne]

i hope there is no women who are victim of abuse assault and misogyny around you because the way you are stepping all over their space and whining about how men are actually good people is so dangerous. I would feel so unsafe around someone like you. You are part of the problem, you sound just like an incel.

That’s funny because there are and other than still identifying as a woman I am one myself. And yet they feel plenty comfortable with me as feminists themselves. I’m assuming you’re the angry one in my notes right now on my trans man positivity post. If “their space” referring to women who feel unsafe with men is my personal blog that has made it very clear I love and support men, it wasn’t for them in the first place. Again, men aren’t all your oppressors and hating them all doesn’t help anyone ≠ all men are good people or women should always have sex with Nice Guys. If the problem I’m contributing to is helping women heal their relationship with men, then that’s great.

#ask #mine #intersectional feminism #transfeminism #androphobia

[my-castles-crumbling]

I have a question cas. 

trans women say they’re women because they are a women, they’re body just doesn’t reflect that… I guess? 

but terfs say that a women isn’t a women unless the body shows that- eg, uterus. 

so either terfs are trying to tell trans women that what they finally know about themselves, that they’re a women, is just not true because they say so? or that a women is only defined by her uterus.

cause that doesn’t feel very feminist. 

i’m not thinking of becoming a terf or anything, trans women are women- i’m not fucking rishi sunak or jkr, but like, what is their argument? I know it’s wrong but what ACTUALLY is it? Cause you’d think, given most of them are so proud to be terfs, they’d have a definition?

so what is it? i’m confused. I know there’s no need to make sense of these people but why?  

Hi! I'm gonna address this point-by-point. Also, TW: discussion of transphobia, genitalia, etc.

I have a question cas. 

trans women say they’re women because they are a women, they’re body just doesn’t reflect that… I guess? 

Yeah, to put it simply. Trans women are (usually) assigned male at birth and sometimes start out with male genitals. There are exceptions to this (intersex people). And some trans people, of course, choose to get surgery.

but terfs say that a women isn’t a women unless the body shows that- eg, uterus. 

Yeah, that tends to be the usual argument. There's more to it, but yeah.

so either terfs are trying to tell trans women that what they finally know about themselves, that they’re a women, is just not true because they say so? or that a women is only defined by her uterus.

Both. They insist that trans women are mentally ill or perverted, and that a woman is defined by her uterus and genitalia. Which is so wrong, because not all people with XX chromosomes or assigned female at birth even have those things.

cause that doesn’t feel very feminist. 

HALLELUJAH! SAY IT FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!

i’m not thinking of becoming a terf or anything, trans women are women- i’m not fucking rishi sunak or jkr, but like, what is their argument? I know it’s wrong but what ACTUALLY is it? Cause you’d think, given most of them are so proud to be terfs, they’d have a definition?

so what is it? i’m confused. I know there’s no need to make sense of these people but why?  

Basically, from my limited knowledge on the subject, terfs argue that to be a woman, you have to have XX chromosomes, have a uterus, a vag*na, etc. You have to have been raised as a woman and experienced womanhood (whatever the fuck that means).

It's a lot of bullshit. I think it's based on a few things:

Fear. A lot of terfs are very uneducated and assume trans people are actually cis men trying to assault cis women or take away from cis women in some way.. Which is obviously so wrong. trans women are just women who want to live their lives.

Ignorance. Again, terfs are uneducated and don't understand what it means to be trans. They also don't understand their own arguments and the fallacies in them: not all people with XX chromosomes, for example, have uteruses.

Transphobia. A lot of people see being trans as very taboo, and don't want to be associated with it or accept it. So of course, they don't want trans women as a part of the feminist movement.

This is a stretch, but I also think it has to do with sexism. Stay with me here, but terfs see trans women as men, right? (They're not, but just stay with me). And when men do feminine things, it's always SO deeply frowned upon. Because how DARE someone AMAB act feminine. It's seen as disgusting. Men need to be men- protectors, not emotional, not weak (yes, I know being fem isn't weak, but from their POV...). SO I think it's actually deeply-ingrained sexism as well, if that makes sense.

I hope that helps a bit! It's a horrible, horrible mindset, and the fact that JKR promotes it is so upsetting, tbh.

#ask #asks #ask cas #fuck jkr #tw: transphobia

[cass-ass]

I was looking up some stuff about One Piece and ran into a few things about Yamato that sexualized him as a woman. And just.... im so fucking sick of it.

Like this Author made sure no character EVER calls Yamato she/her. He is always He/Him. He even made sure to have a female character explicitly ask "hey wanna take a bath" and he goes "ah, there are no mixed baths, sorry"

Then has a bath scene with the trans woman, Kiku, in the women's bath with them instead and Yamato in the men's bath with all the other guys

But these people are all like "tits means girl." Like bro are you that stupid. Does it have to be stamped on your forehead??

Just cause someone's reason for transition was admiration of another person does NOT mean that their transition is faked. It does not mean they are delusional. Just means they figured themselves out through that person.

And if some guy doesnt bind and shows a bit of sideboob, it does not make him a girl.

#im just so pissed about this #so pissed #like Yamato is a fucking great character #played by a wonderful nonbinary VA #and I cant look up ANYTHING about him #or else Im gonna get something saying she/her about him #and the amount of discomfort I feel is palpable #one piece #yamato #trans #ftm #trans man

[punkeropercyjackson]

As a bigender femme who uses he/they due to getting dysphoric at she/her almost always because he's transmasc,i'm so sick of 'but you're fem so you're a she/her!!!' being used @ me in dressed up proggressive language and at other he/they femmes in general,even ones who don't use he/they because they're multigender/nonbinary men like me and are just gnc feminine women(and no,that's not an oxymoron).Not gon' traumadump rn but i'm also an afab black woman(afrolatina)so my gender experiences are NOT the same as white transmascs and i've been degendered and masculinized against my will for a LONG ass time which is why i surpressed my egg so long until i realized i could just be a woman AND a man and in no way had to give up being a girl to be a guy too or become macho when i'd just started getting actually being super feminine how i wanted,as a black trans femme and not white girl femininity or hypermasculinity.You do NOT get to try to force he/they women to be she/her women because we're fems and you guys are more dangerous for feminine men than transfems could ever be-This he/him in a skirt is wearing a skirt because HE'S a girl and his they/them girlfriend who is a trans woman isn't suddenly nonbinary cause they ask to use they/them until they can transition or that they should present neutrally instead of a busty and curvy pink gamer girlypop like they've ALSO said they want to.Gender does not equal pronouns too,hope this helps you raggedy ass cunts👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼!!!!!!

#transmascphobia #misgendered cw #transmisogyny #blackness #black femme #bigender #genderfluid #demigirl #trans #transgender #trans rights #trans pride #genderpunk #transmasc #transmasculine #transfem #trans women #transmasc4transfem #transfem4transmasc #t4t #xenogender #catkin #dragonkin #ghostkin #plantkin #mermaidkin #autigender #💌 #me and moon #summerposting

[ransomnote]

wait we need the analysis how does amanda’s backstory make sense only if she is transfeminine ?

from the get go like the first time we ever see her when she's telling her story in the interrogation room we see that she had to cut open her old cellmate's stomach. notably, her cell mate was a man. leigh and james could have cast anyone in this role, it wasn't a speaking role. they could have just cast a woman, but they didn't. new jersey (where saw is set) has no co-ed prisons as of 2024 (we know she was in prison, not jail, prison) and they certainly didn't in 2001. so unless her cellmate was a trans man (which is a decision i don't really see saw two thousand four making) we can conclude that amanda was in a men's correctional facility, and experienced heavy trauma there that lead her to start using heroin.

i think there's also something beautiful and symbolic about her killing her old male cellmate in her trap via cutting open his abdomen. after she takes that step, proves her will to survive, she's "reborn" literally and figuratively. she's screaming and crying and covered someone else's in viscera and beneath all of that she's a beautiful, brand new woman. then this metaphor is extended onto adam but that's a whole essay i don't have it in me to write right at this moment.

amanda is and will forever be my favorite trans character and i love that her transness is right in the text if you know where to look for it ❤️🏳️‍⚧️

#saw #amanda young #echo bravo #leigh whannell i'm going to break into your house and leave a bottle of estrogen and a needle and what you do with it is not my fault

[bernlcastel]

Reading through the replies of the new "evil" "transvestigation" piece and trans men sure love to say "as a trans person i disapprove of egg jokes" as if thats helpful at all. Look at the actual tweet it was just a fucking observation. Trans men saying you should let eggs stay eggs and never find out in the replies like sure let them wither and die because the worst punishment in life is being a trans woman apparently. All of yall punching down on trans women should just die

#bunny talks

[danielnelsen]

while i get where this comes from and it’s true to an extent, i reeeaaaally don’t like how people try to explain “trans men don’t [necessarily] have male privilege” with things like “some trans men don’t pass”.

like sure that’s the most obvious example (someone who is seen as a woman won’t have the privilege that comes with being seen a man) but you’re still acting like being a passing trans man is just a free opt-in to male privilege which is………kinda the issue.

#personal #ohh don’t be weird on my post please this is just on my mind #i’ve seen it so many times just in the last few days #like yeah a passing trans man receives more benefits than anyone who’s seen as a woman #and i’m sure most people making those arguments DO understand that it’s not that simple #but very few people engaging in these kinds of discussions in good faith would argue that someone seen as a woman has male privilege #(note: VERY FEW people engaging in GOOD FAITH) #i see people be like ‘everyone thinks all trans men pass’ and like…….WHO is thinking that who’s also gonna listen to you here #maybe it’s just my grew-up-in-a-conservative-religious-environment thing but your experience is not universal #i would also like you to consider whether ‘anyone that looks like a man has male privilege’ is consistent with your other views #1k #(oh god guys please)