#thought about the irony here

[warthogreporter]

Watched Galavant recently and enjoyed it a lot. Have some thoughts about it, like how the characters we're introduced to in the first song begin the series vs how they end it.

Galavant: Starts out being rejected in favor of social advancement and abandoning questing out of heartbreak, ends marrying someone above his station and retiring from adventuring to live a quiet life together.

Richard: First and last episode both have him marry a commoner (well implied and off-screen in the last), except with Madalena it was by force and she only agreed for status, while Bobby was willing and stuck by him even when he lost his royal status.

Madalena: Both begins and ends the story choosing power over love, but now the choice is one that hurts her.

#oc #Galavant #the irony of Madalena's section being the shortest here is that I have the most thoughts about her as a character #She might be my favorite character in the show #I'd argue the whole show is basically her villain origin story from damsel in distress to evil sorcerer queen

[chirpsythismorning]

El saying this, in a letter filled with lies, makes the line come off as naive... which makes me feel like Jonathan and Nancy are not going to go to college together...

#byler #stranger things #'i am so excited to see you it's hard to breathe! are you excited too?' #gotta be the most chaotic example of them hiding the truth behind el's naivety about the truth #bc while she does know she is lying about certain things #there are misconceptions around her that she is misinterpreting #and the irony is terrifying #it's possible jonathan and nancy are still endgame #and yet #her words here read as naive in the same way she thought her and mike were going to have the best spring break ever #it's basically a big ol oh honey you've got a big storm coming

[taffyvontrips]

some thoughts on the 1982 drivers' strike and a little context

So, I’ve been feeling a little odd about the 1982 drivers’ strike for a while, and I’ve been mulling over it. The reason I haven't written this post before now is because I know that a lot of people in this community are attached to the strike! I am not immune to this! It’s a great story, unexpected and fun, rich with lore. I mean, who doesn’t love union action? Who doesn’t love a good strike? 

I really hate to be a buzzkill and I don’t mean to attack anyone—not any users here (definitely not!), not any drivers either really (maybe Bernie Ecclestone though). I guess I just mean this post as a conversation starter. 

Anyway. People like to use the example of the 1982 strike when they’re trying to make points about modern F1. For example, when the race in Saudi Arabia was in question because of airstrikes happening near the track (I still can’t believe that went ahead, but I digress), and when Domenicali made that asinine statement about drivers’ political engagement, a lot of great posts about the strike were suddenly doing the rounds on modern f1 tumblr. Look at what they managed to do before! people were saying. See how ridiculous it is to say that Niki Lauda wasn’t political! Look here! They organised a strike, maybe they’ll do it again! We love a strike! We love a union!

And good for the drivers for sticking up for their workers' rights and so on. Good on Niki Lauda and Didier Pironi for not rolling over.

However.

Something that has always quietly gnawed away at me ever more since first learning about the strike was the fact that it took place in South Africa, in 1982, during apartheid.

If ever there has been a place where F1 should not have raced, it would be South Africa during apartheid. 

The cognitive dissonance is pretty extreme to me. There was an active international campaign going on at the time to try to pressure South Africa into not being a racist backwards hellhole; musical artists were strongly encouraged not to go there as part of a large cultural boycott, trade embargos were in place, the country was excluded from the Olympics and most sports organisations. An exception to this? Formula One. While these very rich white Formula One drivers were gallivanting on Kyalami Ranch or in the Sunnyside Park Hotel, which was whites-only, the majority Black and Coloured* population were being brutally oppressed, deprived of their civil rights, displaced from their homes, and kept in poverty by an explicitly white supremacist regime.

Were the F1 drivers striking over apartheid? 

Were they striking, perhaps, because non-white people did not have equal access to the GP? 

Were they striking, maybe, because the Black employees at Kyalami didn’t have the right to vote? 

No. 

They were striking because they wanted more control over their contracts. 

If the strike had happened anywhere else, I would enjoy the story without reservation. But it didn’t happen somewhere else, it happened in apartheid South Africa. I think it’s maybe good to keep that in mind as an extra dimension when we talk about the strike. It’s also useful when we think about F1’s relationship with politics—internal and external.

F1 is rumoured to race at Kyalami again next year, and I for one am very excited.

Please reblog with any additions and perspectives you may have!

*a term used in South Africa with different connotations than in other places

#sorry about this massive chunk of text #again i'd like to reiterate that i don't mean this as an attack on any of my wonderful friends on here!! #just some thoughts that have been niggling at me for a while #i have a bit of a personal stake in south africa and zimbabwe and the awful things that happened but i'm not from there #if any south africans see this and would like to chime in that would be amazing #f1 #classic f1 #retro f1 #south africa #south african gp #kyalami #1982 driver strike #1982 drivers strike #i'm waiting for a researcher on researchgate to potentially get back to me with a fulltext article on the south african gp #it's a bit of a long shot but i'm crossing my fingers #i really want to be as informed as possible #i talked to my dad about this essay and he said #the bitter irony of drivers striking for their freedom where swathes of the population #had no freedom #i think that just about hits the nail on the head

[thatswhatsushesaid]

shitpost dispatches from guanyin temple & the sangyao dungeons - [10/?]

with the important caveat that no, jgy was absolutely not attempting to kill or harm nhs prior to this moment, but I would bet cash money on him exacting some pretty bloody retribution upon his beloved a-sang if he'd survived the events of guanyin temple (and also I think he would win)

#mdzs #mdzs shitposting #sangyao #not my favourite flavour of sangyao tbh #i prefer to read/write them without the revenge vision quest hovering as the dramatic irony elephant in the room #compels me tho #just to ramble abt this a bit more in my own tags #huaisang's one advantage throughout his entire revenge quest is that jin guangyao does not suspect him of anything #i have many additional thoughts here about how jgy's fatal flaw wrt nhs is overlooking and underestimating his capacity #for presenting one face to the world while keeping his real thoughts and feelings and ambitions hidden away #(and where do you think he learned that from a-yao? i'm gonna go out on a limb and say 'not er-ge or da-ge') #whereas nhs's fatal flaw (and it is not something that I perceive as fatal within the text #so much as supposition wrt his mental state post-canon) #is his inability to commit himself to any work he's not personally invested in #this is endearing and cute and a little exasperating when he's at lan summer camp #but wrt jgy it prevents him from looking past *what* jgy has done to nmj and asking himself *why* #I do think it is inevitable he will ask that question in his future just as lxc was desperately asking it at the end of the confrontation #the tragedy here is that nhs orchestrated the death of the only person who could ever give him that answer #and now he will never know #jin guangyao #nie huaisang #he did crimes??? good for him 😌 #let him have birds!! 🕊 #mdzs meta #in the tags anyway #moling queue

[fefairys]

hussie's author notes make me burst out laughing way too often

#i am genuinely obsessed w the way hussie talks about their writing #because they are sooooo self-aggrandizing but it's like 10 levels of irony #therell be some weird writing decision and theyll be like #'that was weird. actually no it wasnt heres an explanation that justifies it that i just came up with. i was actually a genius all along #and if you thought that was bad youre actually stupid' #like yeah ok. i love that shit actually sorry #i feel like a lot of ppl take the self-importance shtick way too seriously #like they think he actually means it every time #and its like man come on. #like i remember ppl criticizing AH (character) for being like AHAHAHA I KILLED EVERYONE U CARED ABOUT for being like tacky or whatever #as if thats not hilarious #sams reading homestuck again

[good--merits-accumulated]

when the intrigue starts intriguing (fic snippet under the cut because what do you know. sharing my writing still gives me the Horrors)

(so i have a lot of thoughts about Cameron as a betrayer even though he is one in this fic, because he's seriously just looking for a reason, ANY reason, to not betray anyone at all. he's desperately trying to find the tiniest of ways to excuse himself into doing the right thing, and Neil WILL NOT GIVE IT TO HIM. not even out of malice, he just wears his heart sewn to his sleeve like it's fucking applique. this plays into a bunch of dynamics re: fic that essentially end up as "jesus CHRIST, this guy isn't suited for politics", but i think it's summed up well here - Cameron asking Neil for a reason to make him stay, to stop him from reporting back to Neil's father, and being met with mockery, because in Neil's view, what's the point of befriending a traitor? they remain a traitor anyway. and then from Cameron's view this is the final straw on the back of the camel.)

#this didn't make any sense at all but hopefully it's more clear in the wider sense of the fic #i also have thoughts on neil as a character - he acts of course and he acts around his father but #when it comes to his contemporaries he only ever acts when it comes to himself #he's fairly honest i think about how he feels about everyone else #and i exaggerated this a bunch in the fic because you know. dramatic irony. tragedy. all that good stuff #and cameron is so easily swayed by anything he doesn’t need to be exaggerated. no offence man. #also if the names thing is confusing it's because there's an odd 'everyone has three names' system i've put in #you know how it gets with fae #htoo writes #dead poets society fic #dead poets society fanfiction #anderperry #<< sorry anderperry tag there is no anderperry here but i'm terrible at organising my blog #dead poets society

[heretodefyfate]

the dialogue in this game is just *chef kiss*

#pkmn rejuv #i'm just talking about my OC here #those last line that MC delivered to ''melia'' is just so in-character for Coraline that i wish i actually thought about #damn. dev must have had fun writing these #me when MC start throwing words at M. #''get her ass'' #don't get me wrong. i love the writing for melia here #which is why i love it when someone point out the irony of her actions

[hikayunas]

the fact that hikaru often gets reduced in the fandom to nothing more than 'horse' jokes is something that's always stuck with me. it's a bit ironic, in a sad kind of way.

hikaru being 'the horse' isn't just some joke thrown in for laughs -- it's her coping mechanism; the way that she dehumanizes herself and creates a mental disconnect to separate herself from the things she does, and to place herself in the role of being a tool for yuna's use. hikaru may not necessarily want to kill people for promised blood's goals, but if yuna wants it, then the horse certainly does, can, and will.

it's not as great of a coping mechanism as she believes it to be -- it certainly does get her through the harder parts of life as a futatsugi magical girl, and it's become something of a personal playful nickname among the ranks of promised blood -- but it's textbook dehumanization. she's not thinking of herself as a human being, but instead as an animal, as a tool, a weapon. she cheerfully agrees when ao calls her an empty shell, grinning and chirping back that with yuna-san, she's full.

everything hikaru -- the horse -- does is for yuna. she's not her own person; she's not a person at all. yuna-san is promised blood's general, and a general needs her loyal horse. the horse won't need to feel guilty for the blood on her hands and at the tip of her saber at the end of the day. she was made to do this. she is not her own person; she's not a person at all.

all of this to say -- hikaru's character being turned into 'horse' jokes by a lot of the fandom is something i think about a normal amount.

#i was supposed to be doing character design things but i got sidetracked by a discord convo and am hikaru-brained now. forgive me #for the record -- i make horse jokes about hikaru also; i just posted art here a week ago of her as a horse because of a hikahorse joke #i'm not saying it's secretly bad to make horse jokes about hikaru. just that there's a bit of irony to them #i apologize that this is almost certainly super ramble-y -- i tried to make it make sense #i'm only keeping reblogs off on this because i plan on going through this again‚ cleaning it up‚ adding more‚ then posting it again #there's a lot that i wrote then deleted to make my point clearer #i have a lot of thoughts about hikaru's self-dehumanization; but they'll have to wait until my brain isn't just a giant scrambled egg #okay. that's all. have a nice day everyone o/ #live laugh crimson resolve etc etc

[mpsansy]

So there was an episode I saw about Casper and well... The thing that made me a little giggly is the fact that Stretch is singing little Casper a lullaby and knows how to care for him. I know it was just supposed to be Casper as a baby and played off as a joke. But, at the same time, it’s so funny and so strange (I say this is a good way) to see him get all happy about caring about something.

And to actually hear the words “my baby!” when Casper is back to his ghostly normal self AND hug him right as he says that? Almost made me emotional for a second. I thought someone was lying to me, but oh man. I was mistaken

#sansy speaking here #casper the friendly ghost #stretch mcfadden #casper mcfadden #me personally…. love it when wicked characters get all soft and sweet #THIS WAS CUTE #and only solidified my feelings about how if they were alive he’d be a real caretaker for Casper #he does bad things REAL bad things #but he raises Casper as a kid to be good- to NOT be mean and rotten #and what an irony it is that as ghosts he goes back on his wishes and wants Casper to be bad #and Casper persists just because #DAMN I HATE BEING ALONE FOR THIS #I GOT SO MANY FEELINGS AND THOUGHTS

[thethingything]

once again like, if I was in my own body a lot of things would be easier to handle. even if I still had to deal with all the same physical stuff (chronic pain, fatigue, etc) that I get in this body, it would be so much easier if I at least looked and felt like myself.

it'd be a lot easier if I didn't have to deal with the specific mental illness stuff (mostly from our OCD) that affects the whole system in the same ways but makes me distressed by things that don't feel like things I would be distressed by and that makes me do things that don't feel like things I'd do.

like oh yeah here's a thing I'm upset about. no it's not a thing that upsets me personally, but our brain decided I have no choice but to be upset by it. no I don't actually give a shit about it but once again I'm at the mercy of a brain that doesn't give a shit what I think about this because it's going to give me a panic attack regardless

#personal #thoughts #🍬 post #vent post #the irony is that we figured out at one point that I'm probably our brain's way of dealing with a specific phobia #and it worked so well I didn't even know about this phobia until I'd been here nearly a year #but the trade-off here is that instead we've got a host who's deeply unhinged about some very specific stuff

[undefeatablesin]

OH! If you want can you tell us about your arcane hunter??? (I love arcane builds)

Ask Sin Stuff ✨️

Omg thank you for indulging me I would indeed love to talk about my arcane hunter actually 💅 I guess I'll start with the actual gameplay side of it because they were a total accident to be completely fair; at the beginning, I'd wanted to main the Blades of Mercy and focus on Skill, but found that a bit unfulfilling to play so I switched gears mid-run to invest mostly in Arcane instead with some Strength and Skill still thrown in for good measure. Rather unexpectedly for me who knows very little about builds and the like, they became an absolute powerhouse of a hunter and incredibly fun to run because of it 😂

Currently they main the Holy Moonlight Sword (with the BoM still equipped as their secondary since those have some Arc scaling anyway). They don't often need to use their Blunderbuss that much since HMS just destroys everything that breathes in its transformed state, but they have it anyway for parrying's sake! Their most often used Arcane tools are the Tiny Tonitrus, Augur of Ebrietas and A Call Beyond. As you can probably tell, we are most enthusiastic about the Tiny Tonitrus and its ability to just one shot annoying kin enemies from a distance 😂 Please enjoy some not so HQ images of my little menace ✨️How they got so bloody I dont remember, just that it felt metal af to walk around like that against the snowy white scenery of Cainhurst tbqh.

As for this hunter as a character, I kind of didn't have one in mind at first! This profile started as just a catalyst for a new playstyle initially. However, that has definitely since changed. They're still a relatively new and unpolished addition to my roster since the majority of my creative time is devoted to Ruza My Beloved, but I am pursuing an interesting??? Set of concepts for this hunter too lmao. This is probably not news to anyone who has been in the fandom longer than me, but I read recently about the blue eyed scourge beasts from UCW and was enlightened to the fact those were actually "ascendant" scourge beasts with kin-like qualities, such as being weak only to thrust damage; most likely created from members of the Choir who were steeped in the Arcane and rich with Insight by time the scourge got to them, hence they basically became a different strain of scourge beast. I also spied a reddit thread that proposed the idea of the abhorrent beast/suspicious beggar being able to freely control his transformations into his beastly self and that what primarily made this character unique was his complete acceptance of said self. A sort of Beastly Embrace, you might say? 🤭

So tl;dr, I am workshopping this character rn as an Arcane Beast hunter who can freely control their beast self and for that beast self to be modelled after the blue eyed kin-like scourge beasts. Perhaps a renegade member of the choir who turned against their faction? I haven't fully decided yet, but we will see 😤✨️ Oh, and their name (for rn anyway) is Aloysha.

#sinbox #(sorry i talk so much i have so many thoughts ANYWAY LOL THANK U BUDDY!!!!!!!!!) #(am i fully aware i am being self indulgent with this concept bc i am a weak ass for werewolves? yes ✨️) #(ill probably change their hair to black tho. to MATCH. the woofer.) #(take all this with a grain of salt tho bc i am indecisive af LOL) #(i did toy with the idea of them being a merc from outside of yharnam who was sent there to do someones dirty work and got dream'd) #(not 100% sure which option ill stick with yet!!!!) #(yes they are friends with ruza. they annoyingly demand scourge beast belly rubs) #(idk if they will ever appear on tumblr in any meaningful capacity MAYBE THO 😂) #(cant believe my court jester ass didnt even notice that bit about the werewolves tho smh. so much goes over my head....) #(i havent been here long im still catching up 😂 SO MANY INTERESTING OBSERVATIONS TO READ ABOUT!!!) #(i shall have to impart my own one day too....) #(the cosmic irony of me taking aloysha to farm chunks off the other blue eyed scourge beasts tho) #(aloysha vc: lol. lmao. pmsl even.)

[no1ryomafan]

Thinking about how everyone talks about how arma always gets so much outside material of all the getter series, like it’s practically most of the merch and whenever getter is repped in crossovers-SRW or not-they always use arma as their iteration but probably due to the fact this a bit of obscure knowledge, I never hear anyone mention the fact arma afaik is the only getter anime to get some side stuff:

<In shin manga there is a singular bonus chapter that is set in armas verse that shows the end of the moon war, written and drawn by ishikawa himself <got its own audio drama cd midway through the shows production that covered events post moon wars but pre show, it also contained two songs that were character songs for go and ryoma, who their vas also sung for <In early 2000s, imagawa, the first director for the anime, in a magazine for a SRW manga he wrote his own three chapter manga that covered some of his ideas that didn’t make it in the final show after he left

Merch and crossover appearances are one thing but it’s kinda crazy how putting aside arc as it’s a full on adaptation, arma is the *only* anime to actually get some manga stuff even if it’s a few chapters, and a audio drama that’s like a hours worth of content on top of that. Like still kinda baffles me that during the whole period of the franchise post-ishikawas death that no one made mangas about any of the OVAs when each of them have potential for a prequel/sequel story that could just be a volume or so long, expect for arma getting a tiny bit of it. It’ll always be so weird to think about it’s the most popular iteration of the franchise despite there being a lot of disinterest for it in the mecha circles nowadays bc of how overused it is yet it’s clearly the one people care about the most and it seems early on it was so apparent it was the money maker.

#meg text #getter robo armageddon #honestly this one can go on twit bc I actually haven’t posted on there for no reason recently #but also the arma haters are significantly worse no one gives a fuck on this site bc the fandom here so small lol #It is sad how SVN and New are so neglected but it also makes me wanna know why they flopped #bc even if SVN wasn’t dubbed in English iirc it was dubbed everywhere else and it had to have done well if new came after #also it had shin getter so I more so chalked up “this one people watched but doesn't talked about bc it’s so brief” #but can’t begin to understand why everyone ignored new other then “grr no shin getter” even tho the getters look cool #and also I will never left at the irony it’s slept on when it’s the ova where ryoma is in EVERY episode #not to say you can’t like a character who’s hardly there and arma is only gone for close to half the show #but no one ever mentions the fact he dips after the third ep for awhile and a girl essentially replaces him💀 #and SVN he’s a literal side character despite the title and promotion art making you think he’s piloting shin #im side tracking with ryoma now in tags lmao but the post itself covered my main thoughts

[palin-tropos]

in all honesty the mazov/nilsen final meeting probably was not as tranquil as the inframaterialism book suggests or if it was there’s a fridge horror component 

#cw suicide mention #sorry to be making patho comparisons again but i'm reminded of daniil at the end of haruspex route in classic and 2 #in both cases he deliberately lies or misdirects artemy away from something that is making him suicidal #in classic it's more blatant. he told artemy he'd shoot himself if thanatica is lost and then we know it IS from daniil's route #but he says he's going back to his lab in the capital like nothing is wrong #and in p2 he's sort of dodging questions about how very pursued by the government he is and how hopeless his situation might be #so you know. same thing here. the irony of them reading each other's surface level thoughts and mazov is assuring that he's fine #and it's a lie. a mind lie #sorry I just love to make myself sad about these fucking guys

[dragongeek1]

well friends I have officially joined the Chronic Pain Club, it’s not great to be here, there’s a chance it’s only temporary but my gut says ‘hmm many doubts’ and I won’t really know for a couple of weeks anyway until my doctors appointment. So. Been navigating that for four days and well we’re navigating at least

#there’s some sort of apollo prophecy dodgeball meme joke here #re me being close to many people w/ chronic pain/illness and being a strong empath #and already using spoon theory periodically for the mental health shite #‘ha ha wow this is so useful I’m glad spoonies consider mental health strugglers part of this too!’ and then I need you to imagine #that very specific TUNK sound a dodgeball makes #those thoughts have been living in my brain this weekend. anyway #mark and di if you happen to see this. TUNK (the dodgeball sound) #maybe it’s more irony than prophecy but as I said the thoughts have been there #I went to urgent care then the er thurs night because I spent an entire workday and over 8 hrs in severe abd pain #and it started on the lower right side so of course worried about appendix/gallbladder/etc #urgent care said yeah go to the er cause no matter what you need diagnostic imaging #and they asked have you ever had ovarian cysts I said no but my mom has (there’s thoughts it can be genetic) #do an ultrasound and sure enough I’ve got em! #and doing some reading up after the fact ‘most are asymptomatic and go away on their own!’ I was like well fuck #I mean that’s great but I’ve already failed the requirements I had STRONG symptoms #ibuprofen didn’t do a thing for the pain. until yesterday the hydrocodone they prescribed was all that would #yesterday experimented with three ibuprofen and that does help thankfully #so yeah needless to say I’m not very optimistic this is a ‘goes away on it’s own’ kinda cyst #but my obgyn is really booked and even squeezing me in/getting me in sooner is two weeks away #which is okay I get it healthcare is a mess #but yeah that means chronic pain for the foreseeable future #¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it is what it is #we’re navigating at least that’s all I can ask for #very glad I have today off because it was a very eventful weekend and I need an additional rest day lmao #but started off with low spoons because didn’t sleep well + pain so we’ll see how today goes #Cassie rambles #chronic pain shite #I have the mental health shite tag. might as well start that one lmao /cries

[problemnyatic]

man i know this is swinging a bat at the worlds angriest and most useless hornet's nest but i cant stop thinking about how ridiculous shipping discourse is. Babe if your activism and morality starts and ends at how other people consume fiction you're fully lost in the sauce. How is this your biggest concern. Like I know people can care about more than one thing but it just feels. SO asinine. even if you think that the way people ship or whatever IS a sign of like anything about their real actual life, why focus on the shipping and not... the actual things they have done, if there even are any. There are actual people doing things that cause harm right now in the physical world, like building oil pipelines through indiginous land and I promise it's a better use of energy to do something about local real-world issues than it is to get mad online at what media people use to unwind and how

#problemnyatic discourse #problemnyatic thoughts #problemnyatic rants #at what problemnyatic cost... #like at the end of the day you have to love the needy more than you hate their oppressors #go help the homeless folks in your area itll feel better. Volunteer or something #I cannot imagine giving that much of a shit about what other people ship or what they think about other people's shipping habits #yes i get the irony here as i Am Poasting about it but I just. see it so much. and people get SO into it #and I just. get left wondering. how do you live like that???? aren't you tired???????? does this not alienate people???? yeesh

[tacit-semantics]

This is mostly nonsense and I've mentioned it before, but I was thinking about dirk's mechanical splinters as an act of (ironically) outsourced self-regulation brought about by a) a complete mistrust of himself and b) a desire to compartmentalize and understand, in line with his aspect. As in, it's outright mentioned within the context of his interactions with Hal that dirk does not consider himself above his own manipulation, and as such has fostered a split within himself wherein he feels he has to view and process his actions outside of the context he is performing them in so as to be sure that they're not, well. Completely fucked. And see, observation like this would (in theory) be much easier if he could physically separate himself from his actions and as such understand them through the lens of the bystander; to act without assuming the consequences, like a simulation. Of course, this doesn't work in practice for a number of reasons, especially because at its core it's an attempt to do everything all by himself again. It's like baby's first attempt at playing at judge, jury, and executioner, all at once.

#this is nonsense but it makes sense in my head i promise i swear #having a lot of trouble putting this one into words especially since there are so many potential interpretations of this particular #phenomenon within canon and the way that my brain works makes me want to deal in every possibility all at once its a whole thing. That said #I hope this is understandable even if just as 'wow those are definitely some thoughts that a person is capable of having in the dirk tag' #dirk strider #homestuck #meta #tacit rambles #the irony here is that i use dirk meta to do something similar with myself like this is like two steps away from being a vent post #eh. we carry on regardless. #also as a longtime and very enthusiastic peruser (is that a word) of the dirk tag I can say with relative confidence that ppl don’t tend to #talk about him like this unless they’re venting at least a little so I guess that was pretty obvious anyways #ah shit just realized that in the same vein i should probably throw this under #ocd dirk