#something something bat at a hornets nest

[amesliu]

Can I ask why you don't like Taylor Swift? Genuine question. I'm fairly new here haha.

you may hand me a bat but i am not hitting that hornets nest

but if we're talking specifically about me not wanting to get asks about her its mostly just two things.

i don't really like the idea that i draw what is now 80 chapters of art/comic and all anyone can focus on is the annabeth chaseification of taylor swift

i like her music and i have mixed but generally neutral feelings about her. like i have a lot of thoughts about her bc she's so unavoidable but i honestly don't dislike or like her more than any other celebrity really. however when you don't have a strong opinion of something only for that something to get shoved in your face constantly you can quite quickly develop strong negative feelings about it. so i ask ppl not to attempt to discuss her with me so that i can keep my answers as positive and not annoyed sounding as possible

#not art #asked and answered #i am a woc she is a white feminist #can i make it annnyyy more obviouuuus

[gaylactic-fire]

Nah I hate the persistence of "Vidow is toxic" in the FS fandom. ESPECIALLY given the nature of fanon surrounding them.

Like we know. We're aware, within the confines of the manga, that their relationship isn't healthy by any real world standard. It's fucked up. It's messy. But it's also.. really interesting?? I can't speak for everyone who enjoys the ship, but when I see them I see two characters who, at their best, have incredibly fun banter and an appealing dynamic. Two characters who don't want to hurt each other, but due to the circumstances of their time together and clashing morals and priorities, ultimately end up doing so.

And like obviously this is not the universal thought shared by shippers, as I said. But it's clear that many of us feel some similar way. We want to see their dynamic explored more. We wonder what would happen if their circumstances were different, or if they were to meet again, what changes would occur. There's SO MANY lovingly crafted post canon AUs of Shadow coming back, with many actively acknowledging the fucked up past between the two and how it affects their current relationship. It's not always sunshine and rainbows "I forgive you immediately." and then they cry. I've read / seen many pieces with a lot of nuance. There's themes of anger, grief, confusion, but ultimately healing and moving forward, too and it's all FANTASTIC.

So I guess when fans are actively trying to deepen this relationship and push it far beyond the scoope of the original manga, it's always frustrating to see people dig their heals into the ground and insist the ship must be toxic, even in an entirely different context. Nobody's forcing anyone to ship anything, and I certainly don't judge if the manga dynamic was just something you didn't enjoy. But it's a weird hill to die on if you're trying to start beef with "fix it" fanon. Like, you don't want to see these characters grow and move on? Become better? Acknowledge and admit their mistakes? Find love in each other, in spite of everything? Alrighty then. Whatever floats your boat I guess

#fires posts #ramblings #something something bat at a hornets nest #I'm grumpy and I need to be annoying today sorry #four swords #vidow #normal thoughts about a children's manga

[dukeofash]

People who continue making/participating in discourse for ancient fandoms are wild to me. Those arguments have probably been done already 5+ years ago. Y'all are basically historical re-enactors at this point.

#dukes thoughts #something something baseball bat hornets nest

[ganondoodle]

with every thing i learn about what the directors of totk said in interviews it all just gets worse huh?

the thing about the shiekah tech just vanishing and nobody caring enough to look into it was already rough and now i learn they said that -after botw zelda wondered if hyrule as a kingdom was still needed but then totk happens- just sounds like she wondered if hyrule as a kingdom still needed to exist in the way it had been (which would be an interesting change for once and also make sense for her character) and then they took her back into the distant past with the super good guy king of a godly race to teach her the lesson what her place is and that yes, their monarchy needed and good and really given to her by "gods" and what if big evil black man shows up again

i dont have the energy to get into it further but needed to say soemthing about it bc it keeps bothering me :(

#ganondoodles talks #ganondoodles rants #kinda #anyway #zelda #totk #big yt theory guy posted a video about how he doesnt like totk and was very defensive about it knowing hes swinging a bat at hornets nest #and i was surprised by that and commented on it that he isnt as alone in feeling like that as he might think #and bc its youtube theres gotta be some weirdos #so someone really saw my comment in probably 300+ comments by now #and felt the need to say that they didnt get anything from what i said other than me writing -zonai- as sonau #which i considered replying to with -other languages exist- #but its really not worth to get into a discussion with some rando on youtube #i then discovered you cant block people on youtube anymore just mute them either #also their account name had -israel- as the first word in it so #something tells me they wouldnt be very fun to argue with

[fae-morrigan]

was talking about the way the supersons are one of the most fanonized relationships in comics in the tags of that one post and now i'm thinking about the weird fanon thing that's super minor but annoys me the most: there is a certain group of people who seem to believe that damian would,,, dislike jay? why????

cannot emphasize enough how the text of the comics tells us the exact opposite. like, okay:

( son of kal el issue 1, son of kal el issue 11, son of kal el issue 6 ) Damian's literally infodumping about jay and his work to anyone who will listen. And for the record- Dick decides to invest in The Truth after Damian finds out Jay's identity under the mask, so like.

Also, they get along fine out of uniform, too:

(DC pride 2022) (honestly if anything their dynamic kind of reminds me of steph and damian which leads me to conclude steph and jay would be best friends)

I think if you're going to write stuff with damian and jon you kind of have to acknowledge that jay is someone who is important to both of them. Like, Jay is part of their shared circle. Damian outright admires Jay's professional work. I'm much more interested in that reality.

The only universe where they don't get along is the Injustice universe, but that's the injustice universe where everyone sucks forever.

#And the thing is like #on some level I understand the trope exists mostly within the specific scenario where jay does something to hurt jon but also........ why #why would jay do that. why would jay break up with jon? nobodys ever convinced me of a reason #specifically nobodys ever given me a reason jay would break up with jon that wouldnt also make damian immediately side with jay lol #he wouldnt just follow jon blindly he'd tell jon if he was being an idiot. he HAS. in canon. several times. #jay nakamura #supersons #jayjon #NOT tagging damian or jon because that'd be like swinging a bat at a hornets nest god bless! #dc #dc meta

[queerofthedagger]

everyone write 100 lines of "'creator chose not to use archive warnings' is proper tagging no matter what else is in that fic and if you OPEN a fic tagged as such it's entirely on you whatever you find in there" before going back to any discourse on dark fic and antis i am BEGGING

#mona rambles #'you can write whatever content you want as long as you tag properly' #that's proper tagging. anything beyond that is a courtesy and people would do REALLY WELL to remember that #do I think more detailed tags are a good courtesy? do I like to extend it?? yes #am I happy when other authors do too cause it makes reading easier?? absolutely yes #but people are not entitled to tags #the only thing you're entitled to is that particular tag if there is something in the fic that should be warned for #sorry sorry ignore me just. this has been driving me up the wall for ages #i have a whole actually well-worded rant in my drafts but yk. bat. hornet's nest. etc etc

[solradguy]

The hell's up with all these anti-trans men/masc memes lately because I'm getting real sick of it real quick. It's not cute and it was never funny.

#textpost #This site's always been weird about trans men and it feels like it's gotten significantly worse lately #It's bad enough trans men are constantly belittled by the rest of the LGBT community I don't need to see that shit on here too #'Why would anyone ever want to be a man' is one I've been seeing a lot. Think before saying something that stupid #I've been wanting to make a post about this for a while now but haven't because I feel like it's swinging a bat at a hornet's nest #Which in itself is completely stupid. I shouldn't feel like that addressing these issues yet here we are #Damn near every single time I've seen a trans man on here mention that maybe we're being treated unfairly they get laughed at #Or told to suck it up or that we've got 'cis male privilege' or something. Do these people forget that we're TRANS?? #I WISH the government saw me as a cis man but they don't #This is NOT a trans men vs trans women suffering olympics thing like some people seem determined to make it out to be #Every trans identity and trans person is affected by transphobic laws and people. We're in this shit together #And belittling trans men and ignoring us when we speak up about issues will only drive a wedge in the trans community #When we're divided we're weaker and that's how the transphobes get what they want #Anyway I'm sick of anti-trans men memes.

[gunkyengines]

Genuine curiosity talking here, to those who see this post within the community: what do you classify as a proshipper and/or an anti? because there's never any consistency in the definitions I see, and because of that I have a subzero understanding of what most of the discourse actually is about. I feel I'm a little removed from the situation because I'm not necessarily aligned with anything bc of the lack of ideological read I'm getting from it. Only rule on this post is to not start discourse on it, I'm fucking begging, just let me know how you define the terms.

#shut up gunky #proship #anti proship #there are few things that people can argue Both Sides on in terms of serious social issues but this is fandom wank #so i wanna see if this is something where i can logically put my hands in both pots or abstain entirely #i already have my own ideas about what these terms mean but its the intensity that always gets me and confuses me as to what's up #idk if im swinging a bat at a hornet's nest #but here goes nothing

[swordsonnet]

i'm trying not to bitch too much about good omens fan theories on here, because while there are quite a lot that i really don't vibe with for a variety of reasons, i do understand that people have a right to interpret the characters and events however they like, even if their analyses don't appeal to me personally.

but that being said... if you're seriously trying to argue that maggie can't be human because she doesn't drink alcohol/didn't go to parties as a teenager/is [insert common neurodivergent trait here], then i'm begging you to think critically for one second about what you're implying there.

#of course maggie isn't actually canonically neurodivergent but it's not too far-fetched to interpret her through that lens #and i've gotta say seeing people go 'no one does that or talks like that she's so weird she HAS to be a demon' #hm. doesn't feel great to me as an autistic person. #this isn't about a specific person/post it's just something i've seen around a lot lately and i'm very sick of it #i don't think i'm brave enough to maintag this lol #hello bat may i introduce you to hornets' nest

[scattered-winter]

I will never understand maddie haters because they saw jennifer love hewitt's beautiful portrayal of an incredible well-rounded female character and went "no <3"

#something's wrong with them <333 #probably swinging a bat at a hornet nest with this post but i dont care. let them come. #i will defend maddie buckley with my LIFE and if people want to fall on my sword? #well brother that is a sacrifice i am willing to make #winter speaks #maddie buckley #911 abc

[daz4i]

how and why is there discourse about whether or not certain queer identities exist/if people should be allowed(???) to use them. why is "people know their own identity better than you ever could, and they're the only one who get a say on what they are" such a tough concept to grasp

i think if you find yourself offended by the label someone uses (especially if they're a stranger) or think it invalidates your own, it's a good idea to look inside yourself and question why that may be. more often than not, it's a result of insecurity or uncertainty of your own identity (or many other things, but i won't make a whole list here). whatever reason it is, until you resolve it, you shouldn't take it out on people for having an identity you don't understand

many have said it before but it's worth saying over and over. infighting only helps our oppressors. conservatives don't care if you're a cis gay or a xenogender aegosexual aplatonic lesbian, they hate all of us either way. trying to fit in by going for people who are easier targets for them isn't gonna help you, it'll just alienate you from your own community, and you're never gonna please them. the momentary rush you get from hearing you're not like "one of /those/ gay people" is not worth it and is gonna do more harm in the long run, i assure you

also, it is important to me to say this, but having some less than nice kneejerk reaction caused by confusion about an identity you don't understand doesn't mean you're a bad person or anything. as long as you aren't mean to that person, and you take a second to think smth along the lines of "wait a minute, this isn't any of my business" after having said reaction, you're good 👍 a lot of reflexive reactions we have to things are ingrained into us simply by. well. living in a society 🤡 and you're not terrible for having those thoughts. it's your actions that matter, and your second thought (the "wait, why did i just think that?") is more defining of your actual character and morals than your reflex. i know that having thoughts like this, even tho they're unwanted, can very easily make one spiral, so it's important to me that whoever needs to hear this knows this doesn't make you a bad person 🙏 you're good, keep taking actions to be good, accept other people even if you don't understand them, and you're on the right track :)

#i considered adding that last part in the tags but i figured it'll be too long for that 😭 #i noticed i'm posting a lot of rants lately. sorry. but i do wanna make sure no one's actually feeling bad over them #if i complain about something that you do or call it mean and such. that doesn't make you a bad person #you can always work to change and grow 👍 it's not easy but it starts with smaller steps than you'd expect #and now i just switched to a whole other topic from my original point. oops #i do firmly believe that any discourse about someone's identity is dumb as fuck #seeing it in poll blogs always makes me 😐😬 like how is it any business for any of us. why is this up for debate #if a person says they're queer then they are. they don't need to pass some test or go through initiation to be accepted #if they feel comfortable with a certain word that's awesome. why does it matter to *you* which word they use #'they're only using this microlabel to feel special' so? is there anything wrong with that? #'this label contradicts [insert other identity that falls under the same umbrella]' ok. but does that hurt anyone in any way #a lot of identities can even be self contradictory. does it matter tho? does it affect anyone in any way? #'they might realize that label is wrong later' again. what's the harm in that. #i don't blame anyone for these thoughts bc like. this is how cishets view a lot of the even more common labels #so you're basically taught to think this way from day one. that doesn't mean you need to stick to that thought process #you might have these reflexes forever no matter how hard you try. but you'll get quicker about moving on from them #but you do have to try. you do have to realize that other people's identities aren't about you #anyway. this post feels like batting at a hornets nest. really hope i don't get some bad faith readers here lol #(i noticed a lot of places one could apply bad faith but like it's 3:30 am i'm too tired to add this many disclaimer. #so i'm gonna trust you to not jump to conclusions and to approach this in good faith okay? mwah 🖤) #also my whole ramble abt morality (in the tags too) is relevant to. any topic really #i may just make a separate post about it really. .....tomorrow tho.

[curiositykilledtheradiostar]

I have been forced to watch the first few episodes of hazbin hotel by a friend and I maintain all previous opinions on the visuals being same-y and half the music being will wood but less good, now with the addition of wishing Alastor was in different show than this because I can get behind whatever that vibe is. He would’ve thrived in a Night Vale style podcast.

#Radio holds a special place in my heart. so I am biased. #but no we got to the vox song and I went hey wait let me play you something real quick and pulled up the bridge of blackboxwarrior #curio chatter #We will not tag this as aforementioned show I’m not batting for the hornet’s nest today

[alphacrone]

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#some1 check on ngozi i think she's swinging a bat at a hornet's nest just to feel something

[thebindingofpillo]

Big lady.

(Btw the placeholder name for this ship is “sameven” bc I want people to still be able to filter it out.)

#something something swinging a bat at a hornet’s nest #Sam/Eve feels like the perfect ship to upset the majority of the fandom #I’m sorry I’m weak for big puppy/cool lady dynamics #Eden is also there btw they’re non negotiable #they’re a squad DO NOT SEPARATE THEM #tboi eve #tboi samson #tboi eden #reincarnation au (working title) #tboi reincarnation #tboi #pillart #sameven

[overthinkinglotr]

One thing I find really obnoxious in the lotr fandom is people responding to the am*zon series with “it’s BAD because they’re making a New story” instead of “it’s bad that we live in the world where the ‘rights’ to stories can only be owned by massive evil megacorporations”. Like I’ve seen baffling posts that basically say the problem is the fact that they’re “daring” to make their own new story in middle earth, and like?????? I don’t get it.

Maybe I’m crazy but I do not understand people who think the primary issue with lord of the rings as a franchise is “writers making transformative work that uses middle earth as a sandbox” instead of “the entertainment industry is controlled by massive corporations and it really weakens our ability to create compelling transformative work”

I’m here like “things are bad because it’s very hard to reinterpret stories in a meaningful way when you have to do it in a deeply flawed abusive system where ‘stories’ are just trademarks and brands owned by corporations.”

But then over on tumblr the anti Am*zon tag is literally all just people being like “Any transformative work is BAD! The only person allowed to write stories in middle earth is Our Lord and Savior JRR Tolkien!! fuck anyone who attempts to do their own take on middle earth against the intent of our most holy lord! Any changes are the DEVIL”

I think I just. Fundamentally do not understand …

#this isn’t about any specific person #literally every post on Amazon lotr is like this #i just don’t get it #I’m completely burnt out ajdjkdkf #but I nearly died the other day so I decided to just enjoy the things I like #and shut off my brain to the rest ajdjdjd #but yeah this is another post where I’m swinging a bat at a hornets nest just to feel something

[shopcat]

also now that it's fresh what we see of little azula in zuko alone really is not all that ... anything at all. like she's not horrifically evil or predeterminedly ANYTHING ... she's literally ten years old. she's acting like a ten year old ?! she trips her friend and pushes her big brother into a fountain. my brothers use to lock me in chests and there's literally an entire popular childhood game made up that's about tricking your friend into giving them a nosebleed by hitting them in the face. and her biggest crime is ... having a talent for firebending, which isn't actually her fault despite what people seem to strangely think, and parroting strategy and propaganda that her actual manipulative and evil father tells her that she clearly grew up around and doesn't just Randomly Know.

both of these particular aspects of her put her in a position of immense pressure by her father from an incredibly young age, in an incredibly volatile environment where she knows, and as the years pass she LEARNS, a slip up or indication of less than perfection could cost her more than just a basic reprimanding. people harp on for years about gifted children and the ramification of treating a child as more mature or capable than they are but can't seem to apply the pretty much perfect comparison even in this fictional way... that's crazy. it is literally her entire narrative arc and the way it just goes over people's heads is ASTONISHING.

like it seriously frustrates me the way people continue to villainise azula beyond logic to the point where there's this fanonised, warped version of her that exists (particularly as an even younger child than she already is) that's like, the antichrist figure to further woobify and "legitimise" zuko's various traumas and his childhood, which i find not only obviously fucking ridiculous and people should be ashamed of themselves but also like, you just don't have to do that. theirs was not a normal childhood and neither of them should be judged as a normal child, but also paradoxically, they are just normal children.

even if azula was in an average family, from a behavioural standpoint, and a LOGICAL standpoint, no, the ten year old little girl doesn't know the full capacity of what she's doing and saying and should not be judged as if an older child or adult were saying them, or as if she is entirely outside of the narrative scope. she teases zuko about how their grandfather was going to "kill him" and how he should get adopted now (which literally... all my siblings have done have people never had siblings...) which is an entirely normal way of acting out and picking fights. when ursa comes in she immediately acts innocent which no, doesn't indicate further malicious intent or "manipulation", it's... how any 10 year old would act if she got caught being naughty and picking fights. (contrary to popular belief zuko is not the main character both of the story and IN LIFE, and azula exists without her brother around – a child scared to get caught indicates a child who has been driven to be SCARED. in the household she lives in this applies tenfold).

she would have no actual reason to realise the outside forces actually at play, unlike their mother, and just like it's not her fault zuko is treated unfairly for being the "unfavoured" child it's not her fault that... adults were actually conspiring to kill her brother. which is a huge thing and is something almost intolerably inconceivable to most adults let alone children.

"but she was callous about her mom leaving" she wouldn't be able to REGISTER anything about their mother "disappearing" (or dying, at least to them at this point in time) within the... 10 hours? it happened in. she was lashing out again. she did not have a hand in "KILLING" her mother. and honestly from what little we did see of ursa, a predisposition to finding your own child unsavoury is kind of unwantonly cruel. these characters don't know that they exist in a narrative where azula is being set up as The Villain, who has to act Villainous, and honestly that's a boring fucking way to look at character behaviour anyway.

as much as i do agree that obviously it's a story and things happen for narrative enhancement, the enrichment of a story comes from the believability of a character's actions and even if that weren't true, half of what people as fans of something do is further that themselves by inferring what we can from what we see and therefore i think i'm right in thinking this anyway. you can't step up to the plate claiming you can handle depth and give me a puddle -_-. anyway. it is insanely unbelievable that a mother should write off her own child and favour the other just because her megalomaniacal husband has shown interest in cultivating his own child as a weapon, and just Plain Insane that so many people write off this character entirely WHILST giving all HER trauma to ZUKO.

also like, she's not even acting like a particularly spoiled princess COULD act like in the beginning she's just kind of an annoying kid. i'm not kidding when i say she's acting pretty much entirely normal. "she set her dolls head on fire" so has every other kid i've ever known. i'm actually going to lose my mind about how people have twisted her character into something so beyond any sort of empathy or consideration of what a child of a manipulative genocidal maniac who is shown to abuse his kids could possibly look and act like when we literally get it served up on a silver platter the entire show in the difference between zuko and azula. "azula always lies" because azula always plays the part to protect herself and the role she was manipulated into thinking she earned is like, the foundation of her character and it's embarassing the way i see so many people just like. fall for it. the inability to conceive any sort of love or compassion for a character that directly parallels the male character everyone trips over to analyse is really transparent and sad tbh. at the end of the day azula haters will be taters as i prosper in my garden of success of loving her and being capable of having a brain.

#🐾 #☆ #atla #sorry this got kind of ranty LMFAO it's just like. i love her and when people turn her into something she's not i need to stab them #a million times over and over until they die badly #also this is literally true bc it's part of the whole thing i'm even talking about but people literally just hate her because she's mean to #zuko. like oh my god. get a grip. he's not real and his fictional feelings don't matter #i literally love that kid BUT GUESS WHAT. HE LOVES AZULA TOO #irs almost like they're siblings or narrative foils or something huhhh interesting woah #also bat meet hornets nest but i do know it's bc they can't sexualise her as much as a fandom the way they freely do with him 😭 #zanyway #child abuse tw #also i doubt it but in case tbis ends up in a tag or sowmrbing no i don't think she hasn't done anything wrong ever if you think that's #what i'm saying then you need to idk read it again. she did eveyrhing she did. so did every other character. #but perhaps when people are going out of their way to give zuko handfuls of compassion and tragic backstory they could fork some over for #his FOURTEEN year old sister. maybe!