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starry-hughes · 6 months

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star’s ficmas event

welcome to star’s christmas (ficmas!) event. every day, starting december 1, a christmas/winter-related fic will be posted. down below is the list of all the fics that will be posted and who they will be about.

you can choose who the fics are about by sending an ask with a player and what day/fic you would like to see! it's a first come, first serve basis (aka i will be choosing the name given to me first). once the fic has a name next to it, it is off the table. all players i write for can be found here, if you don't see a player you'd like on the list, feel free to ask! please send an ask with your picks! i won't post all the asks, but i will update the list as it goes

merry christmas and happy holidays!

star's navigation

day 1: ice skating → luca fantilli

day 2: mistletoe → anthony beauvillier

day 3: gingerbread house → mat barzal and teacher!gf

day 4: ugly christmas sweaters → dakota and mark (au)

day 5: picking out a tree → mat barzal

day 6: playing in the snow → single dad!jack (au)

day 7: hot chocolate→ jamie drysdale

day 8: present exchange → single dad!jack (au)

day 9: christmas traditions → caroline and kent (au)

day 10: playing santa → single dad!jack (au)

day 11: bah humbug → andrei svechnikov

day 12: wrapping presents → jack hughes

day 13: decorating → mat barzal

day 14: meeting the family → logan and nico (au)

day 15: fireplace snuggling → kasey and mackie (au)

day 16: fake holiday date → luke hughes

day 17: secret santa → jack hughes

day 18: baking → daisy's au (quinn hughes au)

day 19: christmas music → aspen and cole (au)

day 20: baby’s first christmas → sawyer & quinn (au)

day 21: christmas shopping → nico hischier

day 22: holiday disaster → luke hughes

day 23: family heirloom → mat barzal

day 24: christmas dinner → trevor zegras

day 25: christmas wrapping → quinn hughes

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teatitty · 6 months

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Spent ages looking for this gif because the fuckign pole dance slide down PUNCHES CONCRETE WHY IS HE SO HOT IN EVERYTHING

#marvel #x men evolution #evolution logan is the best of the cartoon logans btw #just because he's a fucking dad to every single student #sigh. I'm gonna end up rewatching evolution I can just feel it

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sacklerscumrag · 27 days

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#i have a single dad!clyde logan x nanny!reader fic ive been wanting to post #ive been writing this shit at the slowest pace ever for the past 3 years #part 1 is about 6K words #and part 2 is about the same #its done i just feel so weird posting it #especially since i havent been very productive in this fandom is SO LONG #i hope everyone is doing well <3

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schmweed · 11 months

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#Gerri Kellman #Roman Roy #my gifs #no but listen LISTEN #Roman misses his horrible dead dad #and he knows Logan had every single tape of every single event he was ever at at a special storage multilevel basement #even after conversion to digital the footage needs lots of storage room #so Roman claims it all and everybody looks at the tiny poor rich manboy with the cut on his forehead #and they let him have it #(obviously Gerri has copies of every single byte stored elsewhere)#and heartbroken over Gerri and grieving his dad Roman does nothing but watch all day #then he watches this. and he's like WHAT? WTF is Gerri saying to Greg WHY is she linking their arms #and how DARE Greg stare after Gerri so hungrily #even though part of Roman's brain is aware enough to tell that Greg was hungry for status and money #he's still jealous because how DARE Greg #and he wonders and wonders and stalks Greg #online first because I don't think Roman would be up for anything offline now #and ofc Greg being Greg is superkeen to be in Gerri's good graces #so he's keen to have her in his 'casual' snapshots at events that he then posts to his social media #and even though Roman is 95% sure Greg isn't and was never interested in Gerri like that #and even though the other 5% is the loudest and angriest and yells excuse me? Greg has eyes doesn't he?#what Roman is most jealous abt is that all those ppl get to have the privilege of being in Gerri's presence #when NONE of them knew her like Roman did and none of them was fondly... something by Gerri like Roman was #I miss them so much!#can I also say how DELICIOUS this scene was! the unbelievable twist when I discovered it was Greg not Shiv! after I was SURE it was Shiv!#such incredible writing. incredible characters. incredible everything.#Succession

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grinchwrapsupreme · 1 year

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it really does do something to my brain that Roman was the only one who was physically abused as a kid like to the point where his siblings Noticed, to the point where it's had lasting effects on how he approaches relationships, like it wasn't enough that he was the Second Second son, Logan had to punish him for being "weaker" by virtue of being younger than Kendall, and then when that punishment has an impact Logan has to punish him for the impact too, like "Dad thinks there's something wrong with you" fuckin cycle within the cycle

#roman roy #abuse //#succession #it wrinkles my brain it really does #AND HE'S THE ONLY ONE WE SEE LOGAN HIT IN THE SERIES TOO (aside from Iverson) LIKE BRO #singled out and it makes him worse but he thinks it makes him special #it makes him love his dad all the more #kicked puppy etc etc #the only way he can get off with someone else is by having them punish him and then shield himself from it #he seeks out mencken after logan dies because he can't EXIST without someone Higher Up to toady to #someone to tell him he's doing good #someone he can be the Special Boy for #getting punished by his father to the point where he seeks it out #acts out so people WANT to punish him #roman roy i want to study you so bad #and now the summary for the finale comes out and uh #spoilers here #he's physically bruised? how much was it intentional?#does he see the protest and goad them into attacking him?#does he do it on purpose because there's no one who will do it for him now that logan is gone and gerri's finished with him?#he's seeking out self-destruction because without logan there he's gotta go diy #he's glad for the power yes but is anyone really paying attention if they're not hitting him?#does anyone even care if they're not willing to lay hands on him?#so thrilled its a stat holiday on monday so i can take the whole day to watch and break down over the next ep #roman is going to crumble i can feel it #i stg if they do a mirror in the finale of the time kendall was missing #and roman had to go get him during his drug spiral?#i'm going to cry so hard i'll throw up i promise

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inhumanliquid · 20 days

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who's your favorite Sanders Sides character

I. Don't have a favorite, actually. Please don't make me pick between the sillies.

#obviously i love virgil's color scheme and also i think he's really cool #logan's a total fucking nerd (affectionate) which is kind of a bit of a mood #remus single-handedly fixed me and every thought about him i have makes me giggle like a schoolgirl #roman could probably fix me even more and also he's uniquely beautiful in a way i can't put in normal human words #patton is more like my dad than my actual father #janus is part of why i'm not scared of snakes anymore and also he's so fucking silly #sorry for being insane in the tags i'll stop now lol #sanders sides

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sleepy-achilles · 1 month

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I'm here to show off some recent character ships I've been working on. To show you guys I do have more character than just Leon. (Leon's in this a few times tho...old habits die hard ig?)

All the ships and their info are at the end.

Quick note; Cassie, Leon, matt, achilles, Jeanne, Neo, Valentina and Ashe are all Family of Destruction Canon.

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four-color-words · 2 months

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I know it will never ever happen bc DC doesn't wanna let anyone age anymore and none of the Titans are allowed to have children except Wally and sometimes Roy if we're lucky, BUT --

If Gar ever wound up with a daughter, I think he'd name her Rita

#it's six am and i haven't slept yet #but the concept of little Rita Logan has been turning circles in my brain for a few weeks now #i don't think she'd be a bio-kid i think she'd be some kind of Odo-esque alien shapeshifter who Gar ends up with custody of #bc someone has to teach her to use her powers #and Rita is one of the names he runs by her when they're faking her paperwork and she likes it #(Victoria was also on the list)#(before the shippers show up i'm seeing this as a single-dad scenario this hypothetical baby has no mom but a multitude of aunts)#(im not actually sure how gar would be as a parent (probably not good but i'm biased) but idk this thought occurred to me and wouldnt leave)

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i-am-church-the-cat · 2 months

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I need to write a Kmag/Logan fic stat

#single dad!kmag and daycare teacher logan

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theflirtmeister · 2 months

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Top five saw protags and traps

top 5 protags!:

lawrence

adam

hoffman

amanda

LOGAN MY ONE TRUE LOVE

top 5 traps!:

reverse bear trap

coffin trap

bathroom trap

angel trap

shotgun carousel

#ANSWERED #Nice Anon #im not even kidding i really do love logan #HE'S A SINGLE DAD! A WAR VETERAN! HAS A FULL TIME JOB!#his best friend is a cunty true crime lesbian!

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five-abs-and-one-peck · 10 days

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parenting is hard

(1?)

Logan reached up into the closet, struggling to pull out the game without knocking down all the others. He wished the twins learned how to put things up neatly, it would save everyone some trouble. This was something special he had been saving though, and he was excited to show Virgil. Being the youngest, he knew it was difficult to find games they all enjoyed, but that wasn't an issue today. Roman had dress rehearsal and Remus was at the pet store, presumably looking at the rats. It was just the two of them today. Once everything was set up, he walked upstairs and gently rapped on the doorframe.

He was greeted with a frown, but Virgil turned towards the wall after a moment. "Hey, um- I was wondering if you wanted to do something..." He waited, and after realizing he wouldn't go without a response, his son lowered his headphones and engaged in the conversation. "What is it?" He wasn't sure now if he wanted to play now, but continued anyway. "A boardgame. It's kind of vampire themed, but I'm not exactly sure how it works." "Oh. Okay." Logan nodded and went back to the table. Eventually Virgil came down, but he didn't seem enthused. This was something he had never understood. He complained and grumbled about so many things, but proceeded to do them. If he wasn't happy, why didn't he do something that was pleasing? It was strange to him, but he would just do his best to make sure there was the choice to say "no". As Virgil sat down, he read the rules, hoping he wasn't forcing anything upon his emo.

#sanders sides #logan sanders #ts sanders sides #mini fic #virgil sanders #sanders side fic #sanders sides au #single dad logan #virgil is the emo son now #but he's still a silly #remus very much has a job at a pet store #i might do more if it's liked #i like the idea at least #they're a little family and i love them

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starry-hughes · 5 months

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nye kisses: (will happily write these)

logan and nico (barely get a kiss)

mom and quinn (after leaving daisy with a baby sitter after she falls asleep)

jack and y/n kiss at 9pm and are asleep at 11:30pm

sawyer and quinn (she kisses his cheek and then he pulls her in for a full kiss and into the bedroom)

caroline and kent (kiss thru phone)

kasey and mackie (on facetime at 12 am and mackie promises a big smooch)

dakota and mark (mark hard launches them after this tomorrow)

aspen and cole (kiss in a bathroom hidden away at midnight)

#aspen and cole #caroline and kent #kasey and mackie #logan and nico #daisy’s au!#sawyer and quinn #single dad!jack #dakota and mark

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disneyprincemuke · 5 months

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the orange peel theory * fem!driver

how many men in her life would stop to peel an orange for her if she asks randomly?

pairings: f1 grid x fem!driver

warnings: -

notes: juSt a random idea i got when i dreadfully peeled oranges for myself ugh i hate being single sometimes

guys this is the last vr update today i swear i’ve got too much times on my hands actually

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-> max verstappen, #1

would be in the middle of an interview after quali when she comes up to him with a mandarin orange in hand

max stops mid sentence to look down at her in confusion but will take the orange into his hands as she asks him to peel it for her politely

he would cover the mic and whisper “can this wait? i’m in the middle of something” and she shows him her hands, perfectly manicured white nails with a frown and says “i’ll stain my nails”

and he just does it, peeling the orange as he carries on with the interview after she walks away without him knowing

when he finishes, he turns to give it to her but she’s no longer there and ends up eating the orange during his interview lol

-> logan sargeant, #2

he’d be sitting in his garage minding his own business when she comes and sits next to him with a bag of mandarin oranges in hand

he doesn’t even need to be told

he immediately reaches out and starts peeling the oranges for her, even tearing away the white strands because he knows she hates those

totally nothing to do with the fact that he’s had a crush on her forever

everything to do with the fact that they grew up together and he’s too lazy to fight

-> daniel ricciardo, #3

he’s literally just walked into the paddocks for race day

he feels all cool with all the cameras

suddenly she runs over to him with an orange in her hands and a hopeful smile

“peel this for me please?”

he does it without question

he walks the paddocks with her while peeling her orange and even sparks up conversation with her

-> lando norris, #4

literally walks away when he sees her approaching him with an orange

she’s been doing it all weekend and he refuses to be a victim

also because he’s not that fond of peeling oranges

or oranges, for that matter

she tries chasing after him but when she finally catches up, he simply ignores the request to peel the orange for her

-> pierre gasly, #10

he’ll be literally walking over to the grid for the driver’s parade

looking pretty cool in his cool fits

an orange is presented to him without question

he grins at her and thanks her for the orange

walks away and eats the orange himself

-> sergio perez, #11

would also be in the middle of an interview when she comes up with an orange

would peel it because he’s a mega dad and he’s really taken a liking to her

excuses himself from the interview to do it for her real quick

would take one piece of the orange for himself

claims it’s the taxes for making him do it instead of doing it herself

-> fernando alonso, #14

takes the orange without her saying anything

he’s always seen with seb on race weekends and is very used to her antics

literally gives her the orange peel and one piece of orange

eats the orange without her saying anything

she’s in damn near tears because she really expected fernando to peel it for her without question

-> charles lerclerc, #16

is sad that she didn’t bring him an orange too

still peels it for her though

even though he was in the middle of some paddock game with carlos

asks for a piece and because she loves him and her crush is still very much present, she simply gives him the whole orange

-> lance stroll, #18

he’d have been coming out of his racing home minding his own business

they don’t interact often because she scares him

is almost scared to say no to the orange peeling and actually says no

mutters “i always knew you hated me” as she walks away

which then makes him chase her to peel the orange for her and apologise profusely

because lance and her literally never talk and it took up all her courage to approach him with this orange, she gives him half of the orange

-> kevin magnussen, #20

asks her if she's got an extra orange for his baby girl

she literally came prepared and gives one to cute baby laura

so now kevin has to peel two oranges for two babies

outrageous, if u ask him

-> nyck de vries, #21

has unfortunately departed by the time she decided to be a menace about the orange peel theory

she thinks about him often though

they're texting buddies actually

-> yuki tsunoda, #22

literally came prepared

he's got a packet of candy he bought when he flew back to japan for a visit

she gives him the whole orange

she literally peels the orange for him in exchange for the candy

-> alex albon, #23

was literally walking to the grid for the opening ceremony of the race weekend

says no immediately

but he does change his mind and asks if he can have half if he peels it for her

peels it and takes more than half of the share

-> zhou guanyu, #24

is delighted to even see her because they don't come across one another often

is kinda touched that she asked him to peel an orange but then is disappointed to find out that he's not the first victim and that this is all a tiktok trend for her

peels it anyway

asks her to bring an extra orange if there's a next time as payment

-> niko hulkenberg, #27

she literally cannot find him

doesn't get to participate in the trend

she only saw him once that weekend and it was at the opening ceremony and she only had 1 orange for alex to peel

and on the grid in his race car

-> esteban ocon, #31

absolutely ADORES her

peels it without question

peeks around her shoulder to ask if she's brought another one for him

she says yes and that he's the only one who gets one for himself because she loves him back

-> lewis hamilton, #44

this psycho literally approaches lewis when he's on an interview panel

but that's because he asked her to do it at that time so he has a excuse to escape the panel

he's just so tired of the panel interviews

giggling with her like demons as he peels the orange

-> carlos sainz, #55

peels it for her without question

the only one to ask her why she's got so many oranges to eat and hand out

also the only one to ask her if oranges have been the only thing she's eaten all weekend

inhumanly impossible to eat this many oranges in one weekend perhaps

-> george russell, #63

is literally tearing up because she came to him to ask to peel the orange

he heard from alex what she's been doing

he's been waiting all weekend for her and was sad that it seemed like she had no intentions on letting him participate in her tiktok

she feels so bad for him that she joins him in peeling an orange as well

-> valtteri bottas, #77

is confused because he's just minding his own business using his phone during the driver's briefing

peels the orange for her anyway

asks if oranges are her favourite fruit

suggests eating something less acidic to avoid a tummyache

-> oscar piastri, #81

if anyone's tired of her being a menace with all these oranges, it's going to be him

but because he knows she'll pick a fight if he says no

he will peel the orange reluctantly

takes a picture with the orange because it's the same shade as the mclaren shirt he is wearing

— bonus

-> liam lawson, #30

asks her to fuck off

only ask him to peel an orange when she's lost all the ability to peel one for herself

asks her if he can have one from her orange stash

she says no in tears because he cussed at her

shrugs and walks away

-> sebastian vettel, #5

this clinically insane woman has got this 4 time world champion peeling oranges on the pit wall during qualifying

has him throw her a peeled orange in between laps during qualifying

eats it in the car for a racing 'buff' before she drives out for a lap

she's got too many oranges so he helps her eat some of them

eating oranges = beating mclaren = beating oscar because they're all the same colour and have a correlation obviously

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frumdyke · 1 year

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playing with weird and fucked up characters like dolls. what if will graham was a roy sibling.

#i think if he dragged hannibal up to logan and said hi dad this is my bf. logan would be like is he single. does this make sense

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hopeymchope · 1 year

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No hardcore fandom has ever died so quickly and so completely as Veronica Mars. This is the story of its murder.

They should study Veronica Mars in Hollywood. I'm serious. It's an incredible story of how to go from "loud, passionate fanbase with its own fandom name that campaigns and advocates constantly for it" to "absolutely zero fucking interest" damn near OVERNIGHT with just ONE epically terri-bad decision.

If you weren't there, you don't understand: From 2007 to 2014, the fandom — the "Marshmallows," as they called themselves — were everywhere in the Internet's geek spaces, my friends. They routinely beat the drum about the series' three seasons and its excellence, lamented its cancellation, pushed others to give the show a try, and always - ALWAYS - proudly and loudly called for the series to be revived.

FULL DISCLOSURE/CONFESSION: I've not even watched that much Veronica Mars, frankly... ? Yeah, I'm sorry! it does seem pretty good from like the four-or-five hours I've experienced firsthand. I just never took the time to sit down with it. Regardless, I find fandoms and their dynamics — both how they operate internally and how they display to others externally — deeply fascinating. And I honestly find them easier to study from the outside than the inside. Like, if I'm IN a fandom, I'm more likely to stay in my corner and ignore places that seem negative. But being on the outside lets me just... absorb what's out there, looking into every forum without judgment. It's like studying pop-culture sociology or something? And it helps that I'm very close to some serious(-ly burnt) Marshmallows. It makes it so much easier to find and absorb the gamut of the fandom.

Besides: There is NO fandom story I've ever seen that's anything like what happened to Veronica Mars and the Marshmallows.

(Time to insert a brief explainer for the uninitiated: Veronica Mars was a TV series that aired from 2004-2007 on the now-deceased UPN network wherein Kristen Bell played the titular character, a high school girl whose single dad was a private detective in the fictional community of Neptune, California. She grew up working "unofficially" as his assistant, which meant that she herself was effectively a teenage private detective.

The three core elements of the series were: 1) Veronica investigating each week's big mystery with plenty of quips and snark, 2) Watching Veronica's various relationships develop and shift, with most of the focus given to a) her relationship to her father and b) Her romantic pursuits (which began as the Veronica/Duncan/Logan triangle before eventually becoming focused on the slow-burn, off-on Veronica/Logan love story), and 3) The gradual development of that season's "mytharc" — the overarching BIG MYSTERY that doesn't get resolved or wrapped until the season finale. So it went over the course of two seasons that took place in high school and the third, shorter season that was at the start of Veronica's collegiate career.)

Just how big and how passionate were the Marshmallows? WELL! When series creator Rob Thomas (not the Matchbox 20 guy) and star Kristen Bell announced the Kickstarter campaign for the Veronica Mars movie in March 2013, it achieved its heretofore-unprecedented goal of TWO MILLION GODDAMN DOLLARS within less than 12 hours. At that time, it was the biggest Kickstarter goal to ever succeed — and certainly the fastest to reach that kind of height. Fans fell OVER themselves to pay out for it. Hell, my own significant other was DEEP in the tank for VM at the time and invested enough to get multiple t-shirts as backer rewards as well as a disk copy of the movie when it eventually came home.

And AFTER the movie hit in 2014? It was thankfully beloved and embraced! The once-teenage characters were adults who were actually out living on their own and working for a living, but the fandom had grown up with them, so it wasn't like they were begging for them to stay young students. They embraced Adult Veronica and her new adventure. The fandom rejoiced loudly and continued to be all over the geek side of the Internet... where they, of course, still wanted more. Sure, there were new novels in the aftermath (which were written by the creator of the series), but most of the Marshmallows were calling for more movies or a streaming revival.

And then, at long last... season four was actually announced. And there was much (premature) rejoicing yet again.

Yes, Veronica Mars returned for a fourth season on Hulu in 2019. It was just eight episodes, and it was heavily centered on one season-long mystery instead of sprinkling that amongst a bunch of smaller ones, but it would still feature the same ol' Veronica. They promised a new, more "adult" mystery/investigation plus a strong focus on Veronica and Logan's love story.

New Hulu purchased the rights to the first three seasons and hyped up its presence on the platform while marketing the return for the new run. The marketing team played up the most popular quips from the show's history plus put out TONS of stuff centered on the Logan/Veronica ship to pump up the fans.

The season was dropped all at once using the classic Netflix "binge" model in July 2019. And then... afterwards?

There was a brief explosion of LOUD RAGE from the Marshmallows at what series creator Rob Thomas had to done to burn and spite the fandom and ruin his own goodwill.

SPOILERS FOR SEASON 4: See, at the end of the movie, Veronica and Logan finally entered into a long-term relationship. In season four, they've been dating for years, and Logan proposes marriage. But of course there has to be drama/obstacles: In this case, Veronica isn't sure she's ready to marry... or capable of being in a marriage. Ah, but of course she eventually realizes how much Logan means to her. The two are married, and, in the season finale... Logan is killed by a car bomb in the penultimate scene. The final scene is a flashfoward to a year later, where Veronica leaves Neptune alone.

For most fandoms, that'd be a memorable point of pain. A big ol' speed bump that ultimately throws some people off the bus, leaving only the die-hards. But the fact that fans had been invested in this relationship for literally 15 years and that Hulu (and creator Rob Thomas) had heavily marketed the new season as being a big romantic event for the ship... it was too much. Unlike the aftermath of the Star Wars sequels, there was no lingering group of die-hard fans who were open to whatever was next — at least no significant one. I did some Googling and could only find TWO people who still wanted another season.

Funnily enough? Critics LOVED this. Hell, Vanity Fair infamously penned an editorial about how Veronica Mars had "finally grown up" with this finale. I suppose all the other murders and deaths and drug overdoses and r*pe weren't "mature" enough before now for... some... reason. (The same editorial also featured the author openly hating on Veronica ever being in a relationship because it causes "arrested development" and declaring that the movie -- which was acclaimed by both critics AND fans alike, I remind you -- was a lame dud. So. The writer must be a reeeaaaal fun person.)

But a series doesn't live based on critical acclaim, as it turns out. The fandom was murdered overnight. "Marshmallows" stopped appearing in geek spaces online entirely. No one expressed interest in seeing the next season or the next movie. The constant flow of fan AMVs on YouTube and fanfics on AO3 dried up to nothing or damn nearly so.

Since 2019 ? Nothing. Chirping crickets. An intensely dedicated fandom of 12 years was just... vaporized.

I've never seen anything like it before OR since.

That's why it's so fucking fascinating.

So what went wrong?

Creator Rob Thomas was adamant about two things: ONE, the series was intended to be a noir show, which meant there couldn't be any happiness for its protagonist. And TWO, the death of Logan was necessary to evolve and grow the series.

Thomas thought that having Veronica in a relationship would be holding her back, and that a marriage would absolutely kill the series and leave her stagnant. It never even occurred to him that marriage isn't the end of a character's life and growth. It never occurred to him that plenty of drama can be had AFTER someone is married, or that development/growth could be that the characters mature enough to be capable of maintaining a committed relationship. Thomas' view of his own universe was so myopic that he couldn't conceive of any possible way that Veronica could still be a private detective involved in life-threatening investigations AND be married at the same time. Futhermore, he felt that fans just wanted Veronica to become a pregnant housewife, which is about as far from what Marshmallows were after as you can get without straight-up killing Veronica and/or Logan. He managed to do the only thing wronger than what he wrongly thought was their insistence.

On top of the above, Rob Thomas only viewed "noir" as a vehicle for total fatalism... despite the fact that many of the most famous noir stories are cynical and full of moral ambiguity, but they still feature a positive outcome. The Big Sleep still has the protagonist get the girl. The Set-Up arguably ends with the happiest possible ending in spite of the beating the hero receives.

Perhaps most importantly? Despite Thomas own insistence that Veronica Mars was always "noir," the majority of both TV critics and fans did not think that designation ever truly applied. I suspect that's the reason why Thomas decided to go as dark and fatalistic as possible: He wanted to be noir, and he was being told that he wasn't. So he went so far into noir that he killed his own most popular property.

He was adamant that it was the only way for the series to grow. But as it turns out, it was instead the only way for the series to permanently end. Without that season four finale, a passionate group of fans would still be begging for more. With it? It's over. Nobody fucking cares now.

That's kind of amazing.

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