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spacedoutcowgirl · 1 month
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felix, adrien, and kagami all turn 18 and immediately run their family names/businesses into the ground. except, yknow, kagami and adrien expose GABRIEL and Tsurugi Electronics (or whatever the fuck its called) for tax fraud and unfair labor practices, but then theres felix burning down his dad's penthouse in the middle of london with wacka flacka playing in the background.
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ninadove · 8 months
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Miraculous’ story is so deeply intertwined with the notions of child abuse and neglect that they kickstarted the entire plot.
I hate Master Fu. You hate Master Fu. We all hate Master Fu. But that doesn’t change the fact that, at some point, he was a child who was:
Abandoned by his parents so he could fulfill a mission he never chose; in the process, he was ripped from his siblings and isolated from other children, exactly like the Senticousins were.
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Put through intense training — like all Sentikids, but especially Kagami — and deprived of food and rest by his guardians (Get it? Guardians?) on at least one occasion, as a way to prove his worth.
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Left alone to deal with the strong negative emotions that such a treatment would inevitably stir up in a young child (his only support, his apprentice’s staff, becoming home to Feast’s amok as he yearns for companionship).
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The result? Utter chaos and destruction, which led to the loss of the two Miraculous that are very explicitly linked to emotions and control. And, of course, deadly damage to the Peacock, which is what got us into this mess in the first place.
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DISCLAIMER:
I am aware that the Order of the Guardians was inspired by actual religious practices in Tibet and am in no way condemning these. However the show, through Master Fu’s perspective, clearly wants us to understand that this was a Bad Thing That Happened and that the consequences continue to haunt our heroes nearly 200 years after the fact.
And haunt our heroes they do: Master Fu (who had literal decades to fix his mistake — don’t get me wrong, I still hate the guy) is forcing the same responsibilities that broke him on two innocent kids — especially on poor Marinette, who is just as unprepared to deal with them as he was back then.
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The cycle keeps repeating itself.
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I need... I need a marketable plushie of him
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piromina · 4 months
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-Ethan Kross
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soundwaveprime · 2 years
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I guess with the new information that at least 3 sentimonsters are currently active pretty much confirms that Adrien and Felix are sentimonsters, granted Evolution practically already confirmed Adrien being one but regardless
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hartwign · 8 days
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part 2
Felix | Adrien
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sophieabigail2021 · 1 year
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Am I the only one who find it fucked up how the writers choose to have the victims (Adrien,Felix and Kagami) of their respective parental abuse as non human?
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flightfoot · 1 year
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So about the SentiZoe theory.
I remember when Zoe was first introduced the main thing I didn't like was how "convenient" she was. It felt very obvious that the writers put her in to replace Chloe on Team Miraculous.
But then I thought: What if that's the actual reason for her existence IN-UNIVERSE?
What if Audrey had her created as a favor for Gabriel, as part of his whole Evil-Rich-People-SentiKid-Conspiracy?
Use her as a sleeper agent to get into Team Miraculous, then take control of her at the worst possible time and destroy the heroes from within?
Now, I'm pretty sure Andre doesn't know about any of this. His whole big thing is that he loves his kids, and he has Zoe counted as one of his kids. He'd probably be horrified by the idea. Which is good, since it means Zoe and Chloe still have one loving parent at the end of the day. (There's absolutely no doubt he'd win them in a divorce court.)
I love it when writers do that sort of meta-twist.
Yeah I still don't think this is likely, though it would make for some interesting fanfic fuel. We've never seen any indication of Vesperia being controlled or manipulated, and it seems like a moot point, now that Gabriel has the Bee Miraculous. If Zoe gets the Bee Miraculous back before Gabriel's taken down, then I might revisit this, though.
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mymiraclebox · 1 year
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Can Vitaa and Tikki make our three sentimonsters childs (Adrien, Kagami and Felix) real humans????
Like, Tikki make them a real body with the same appearance and Vitaa make a soul using the amok
In this AU they aren't any sentibeing children, since the Peacock Miraculouses works differently in my headcanons, but in terms of canon I definitely think kwamis could help them.
They already are real humans, just created with magic, the show's creator has confirmed that-- so what's needed is a means to free them from their amok. Most importantly: to free them from mind control, to free them from being destroyed if the amok is destroyed, and to free them from the Peacock being able to destroy them.
With my OCs, Vitaa could definitely maintain their life force while the amok is being destroyed, so perhaps that'd free them from the bond. Koree could make it so the connection between them and the amok flat out never existed, so perhaps in tandem with Vitaa they could free them from the amok while keeping them alive.
I think they can be freed with the canon kwamis though. It's already canon that Cataclysm can destroy the link between amok and senti (though the Peacock can still dismiss them); but who says this can't be expanded upon? We've seen LB unlock new powers of Creation, so why not have the Black Cat be able to modify his Destruction so it only destroys the sentis' ability to be connected to the amok and the Peacock? (Bonus points Adrien gets to free himself!)
Also I bet you Liiri could do something as well. Who better to break mind control than the kwami of Freedom?
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felixfathom · 1 year
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actually hold on . i wanna see something
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wilygryphon · 1 year
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Gryphonverse- Are Robots and Sentimonsters People?
For the most part, no.  While they could be programmed to act on their own (or given free will by giving them their Amoks), and they may be programmed with personalities, most robots and Sentimonsters do not have the qualifications to put them on the same level as sapient people from the get-go.  Even those who are created to reflect pre-existing individuals have a personality installed, but even then they are little more than drones made to act a certain way and carry out instructions.  There are exceptions, such as Jenny Wakeman/XJ9, Markov, Uncanny Valley/Aeon Hill, and Félix Fathom, but they were made to develop as people (Félix specifically coming into being as a newborn baby).  What sets them apart from other robots and Sentimonsters is their curiosity and ability to develop their own thoughts and feelings, their capacity to form genuine bonds and grow Hearts of their own.  If humanlike Sentis had the opportunity to evolve, they would have a chance to develop hearts of their own and truly become people; but until then, they are merely automatons.
The robotic townsfolk of St. Mystere, Aurora the Azran Emissary, and Brobot are machines with pre-defined personalities that have been able to become real people by bouncing off of each other and those around them.  Sentibug and Sentiweather were in the early stages of showing that potential, as they made their own decisions in repaying Ladybug for giving them their free will, but they were erased before anything could truly come of it.  The highest-ranking Cluster robots were able to become people on their own before they formed the machine-dominant civilization, while most of the robots that they integrated only developed as themselves afterward due to reprogramming and interaction with their peers.
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bigfatbreak · 4 months
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If the Kwami remember the old timeline, then Wayzz, Tikki and Plagg must remember Adrien and Marinette, right? Wouldn't they lead Fu to them? Or is something preventing Fu from doing that/Fu thinks it's too risky to make a move with Hawkmoth/Gabriel watching??
well... hm, there's kind of a problem. The timeline was mostly reset, but there are lingering echoes that things aren't right. For one, the Kwami remember the last timeline - so do the Sentikids, and in fact, so do robots/AI's of any fashion. Not only that, but some mechanisms, nonorganics, exist as though the last timeline was still in place, like passwords and lingering, half-corrupted photographs in dead links and dead blogs.
...so,
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uh. ehe. oops.
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ninadove · 6 months
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Ily: I love you
Icabwmfcawwyfeididfyfwibwftpotsyftsybftsuafaouanwwnoctuwwcocdavwfawtayih: I created a better world, my favourite cousin. A world where you’re free. Everything I did, I did for you. For weeks, I’ve been waiting for the perfect opportunity to set you free — to set you both free. To set us all free, and offer us a new world where no one can tell us what we can or can’t do! And voilà! We’re free! And we’re together! Aren’t you incredibly happy? 🥰
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gale-gentlepenguin · 3 months
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piromina · 4 months
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Starting off the new year with some miraculous speculations!
I'm wondering what emotion Kagami was created out of, because I do think that she is one of the sentikids. Of course, we don't know if she was created by her mother (with that being how she went blind) or if she had a father once.
We know Felix and Adrien were created by jealousy and love. But what about Kagami? And Chloe and Zoe if they're also sentis?
I have a theory.
I think the emotions that the sentikids were created out of might have something to do with their eye colors (I say sentikids instead of sentimonsters because I'm referring to Adrien Felix and Kagami, and possibly Chloe and Zoe, and I dont know if the theory applies to all sentimonsters yet.)
Well, let's see here. Adrien was created out of love.
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His eyes are green.
And a quick google search will tell you that green DOES REPRESENT LOVE!
And if youre wondering about Felix, because his eyes are also green, well, I dont think we even need to look it up to know that green represents jealousy.
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So that leaves me wondering, what about Kagami? Her eyes are brown.
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I dont know what brown represents off the top of my head, so I went to google it, and the results were things like loneliness and sadness. Maybe Kagami was created out of sadness? Maybe there was a Kagami Tsurugi before her? Who died? And she's the replacement? What if the Kagami before her was a SENTIMONSTER who got snapped away (or her amok got broken) at a young age? What if her father died creating the first Kagami, and her mother went blind creating the second? There are so many possibilities!
And loneliness would actually be a good fit. We see how Kagami is desperate for friends, and gets so heartbroken when they abandon her. Her mother could have created her out of sadness, while she was mourning the loss of her husband and daughter.
I think if Kagami did have a father, he died when she was very young. And if you're wondering why Kagami's father would die within just a few months, when Emelie and Colt lasted YEARS, well. By the time the peacock brooch got handed over to the Tsurugis, it had been used multiple times, possibly causing it to get more and more damaged along the way. First the Agrestes, then the Fathoms, and maybe even the Bourgeois and Lee families.
Speaking of which, it's time to get into Chloé and Zoé's backstories.
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Both their eyes are blue, Zoe's a bit lighter of a shade.
Of course we know blue means sadness, but I don't think that fits either of these girls very well. Maybe the same situation I described with Kagami happened?
Or MAYBE, we can find some other meanings. Chloe's eyes are a bit darker of a shade of blue, and you know what that means? POWER! I can really see Audrey wanting a child for the power. But that does make me wonder who created Chloe, as both her parents are alive and well. I want to say Audrey hired someone to do it.
And Zoe? It must have been her father that created her. Possibly also for power, but light blue represents trust.
Maybe Audrey had some sort of affair going on with Andre, and Mr. Lee was mad when he found out about it. When he found out about all those LIES she fed him.
He used the peacock miraculous to create a daughter, one who was TRUTHFUL. He never lied to his daughter about anything, except the true way she was born. Eventually he gave up, not wanting to be a controlling figure, with this sickness overwhelming him, and sent her to boarding school, and maybe snuck the amok in her suitcase.
And now that Zoe had free will, you know what she did at her new school? That's right, LIED. As soon as she had free will, she faked a personality and kept the truth deep within, down in the very soles of those rainbow shoes.
Hey, maybe that's where the amok is. Maybe Zoe's amok is in one of those rainbow shoes she always wears, and it just so happens that it's not the shoe the akuma went in that one time with Sole Crusher.
Maybe, the shoes were some gift Audrey gave Mr. Lee when they were younger and a couple in high school or something. Maybe he saw it as one of the many lies she fed him, and, well, he really did love those shoes, so we wanted there to be at least SOME truth in them.
Also, maybe Nino and Chris are sentimonsters and that's why Nino's parents are missing.
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animationadventures · 10 months
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Let's go over everything that ML did wrong.
They refused to acknowledge any flaws Adrien had and called him perfect.
They refused to allow him a final confrontation with his father, and instead locked him in a room during a final battle with Monarch that should have included both Ladybug and Chat Noir.
They refused to redeem Chloe as part of a so called damnation arc instead of giving her the redemption they previously hinted at.
They sent Chloe off to live with her abusive mother, saying she deserved to be abused.
Nino never got his Scarabella treatment with the Black Cat, and was shafted in favor of Zoe for that.
They teased Lukanette and Adrigami at the end of S3, and immediately broke them up in the first episode of S4 because any other ships beside Adrinette aren't allowed.
After four and a half seasons, they brought up Marinette's stalking habits but blamed it all on Chloe instead of her owning up to her behavior and learning from it. There's also the inconsistency of her only having that behavior with Adrien and not Luka or Chat.
They introduced Zoe, Chloe's half-sister, without any foreshadowing in season four and immediately gave her Chloe's Bee Miraculous. Everything was basically handed to her where other characters actually worked to earn stuff.
They tried to portray Lila and Felix as these master manipulators, but the way they did it instead made everyone else look too dumb through plot armor and bad writing.
Nothing ever came up about Lila lying about being Ladybug's BFF after Alya learned Marinette was Ladybug, and should have not believed her anymore.
Felix didn't even get a redemption, and yet he's part of the team at the end while Chloe is not.
They shoved the last four hero debuts into one episode when they all should have had individual spotlight episodes because they were too busy salting Chloe and shilling Zoe to remember them.
They had multiple opportunities for the heroes to win back the Miraculouses Hawk Moth stole, but didn't because of plot armor and bad writing.
The retcons! The wish originally being equivalent exchange then retconned to world rewriting, Luka and Juleka being two years apart then retconned to twins, Socqueline and Zoe, to name a few.
The freaking sentikids plot! I hate that so much. They didn't start foreshadowing that until late S3 at best. They claim to be planning that since the beginning, but I call baloney!
There's probably more.
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