#rat grinders

[ghostcashewart]

💙 lucy frostblade 💙

#lucy frostblade #fantasy high #fantasy high junior year #fhjy #dimension 20 #fantasy high art #fantasy high fanart #fhjy art #fhjy fanart #dimension 20 art #dimension 20 fanart #d20 #d20 art #d20 fanart #dimension 20 fantasy high #dimension 20 fhjy #d20 fantasy high #d20 fhjy #art #fanart #fantasy high lucy #lucy fantasy high #dnd #dnd art #dnd character #brennan lee mulligan #image description in alt #the ratgrinders #rat grinders #the rat grinders

[soelvfiskart]

My fav rat grinder🐞

#she would def have a big ladybug squishmallow #d20 #d20 fantasy high #d20 fhjy #d20 fanart #dimension 20 #fantasy high #kobold #dnd #rat grinders #artists on tumblr #mary ann skuttle

[frntbttmsstn]

Thinking about the Bad Kids because Elmville is a relatively small town right? So even if Adaine/Fabian moved into town later (god knows I don’t remember if this is true or if I made it all up) it’s semi likely that Riz, Gorgug, Kristen, and Fig would have known at least some of the Rat Grinders as kids right? Like in theory we know of an elementary/middle school in town, I have to wonder what it would feel like to watch kids you might have vaguely knew on the playground, or kids who annoyed you in middle school, suddenly show up and become absolutely murderous. I have to wonder if any of the aforementioned Bad Kids ever stopped to think about the Rat Grinders when they were young? Did Kristen and Buddy ever meet at church? Did their parents suggest they become friends? Did they trade friendship bracelets at camp? Does Kristen remember it was his, does she still wear it? What about Gorgug and Lucy, always the tallest kids in class, were they always next to each other in class photos? Get paired up for gym class games? Did Lucy’s parents recommend clothing stores to Gorgug’s? Did Fig and Kipperlily do cheer together in middle school? Did she get invited to the sleepovers? Did she turn on Fig when her horns came in? Did Fig temper her rage like Lucy eventually would? Did Riz and Ruben always get paired up for being small? Did they trade sweaters because they were the only ones who fit? Did they play hide and seek in school and trade hiding spots? Did any of them get invited to birthday parties for the others? Did they all play games at recess? Did they share a language class in middle school? Did any of them notice when their friends/classmates/kids they recognized in the halls became hateful? Do any of the Bad Kids regret it, regret not staying in contact, regret not checking in? Even when they’re older, they shared classes with all of them, do you think any of the Bad Kids are quietly just thinking to themself: “How did I not notice?”

The thing about growing up where everyone knows each other, is that everyone knows everyone in some small way. I have to wonder how many of the Bad Kids have paused to wonder if they had done it all differently (they couldn’t if they tried), if they had been more aware (they couldn’t have been), if they had just reached out (why would they? why would something be wrong?) if they wouldn’t be here.

#fhjy spoilers #fhjy #d20 #d20 fantasy high #dimension twenty #riz gukgak #adaine abernant #fig faeth #gorgug thistlespring #fabian seacaster #the bad kids #rat grinders #dimension20 #dimension 20 #kristen applebees #lucy frostblade #kipperlilly copperkettle #kipperlilly clerickiller

[plot-holes-and-honey]

Maybe the reason Ivy wasn’t shocked in seeing Lucy at Fabian’s party because she thought that maybe, MAYBE, there was a change Lucy could still accept the nameless rage god, even after all this time.

When she saw Lucy, or what she thought was Lucy, there was no shock or horror. Simply a nod. Ivy could interpret seeing her alive as Lucy giving in, coming back after agreeing to finish what they started.

What I wonder is if Ivy told anyone about what she saw that night. If the reason the rat grinders were able to take down prof Badgood was because they were coincidentally there at the same time to inspect Lucy’s body. Then they saw the same thing with Prof Badgood, a complete denial of the second life offered to her.

Now it’s spring, and it doesn’t look like Lucy has that chance anymore.

#idk #my goal is to make you sad #is it working? #does this make sense to anyone other than me? #kipperlilly clerickiller #lucy frostblade #kipperlilly copperkettle #ivy embra #ruben hopclap #buddy dawn #oisin hakinvar #mary ann skuttle #rat grinders #dimension 20 #fantasy high #d20 #fhjy #fantasy high theory

[panspy-draws]

Sacrificial Lamb

#lucy frostblade #d20 #my art #digital art #dnd #dimension 20 #digital painting #rat grinders #d20 fhjy #d20 fantasy high #fantasy high #fantasy high junior year #ice genasi #dnd cleric

[clairxandra]

Thinking about, with the context we know about the rat grinders and coming back to life

How CRAZY it must have been for ivy to see Lucy (fig) at the seacaster party

Imagine the brief moment of hope , that Lucy took it all back and joined them

And then the rage that must’ve come from realizing it was a lie …

#dimension 20 #fantasy high #fantasy high junior year #lucy frostblade #intrepid heroes #d20 fhjy #d20 #d20 fantasy high #ouch ouch ouch #also wonder if kipperlily saw it 👀 #fig faeth #rat grinders

[rubenhopclap]

The Rat Grinders pair off into Ivy and Oisin as best friends, and Kipperlilly with Lucy as her best friend who is the only one who gets it.

What's the vibe between Ruben and Mary Ann? Are they comfortable without that intensity? Maybe she never takes it seriously when he does his edgy "you mad" smirking behaviors. Maybe he's one of those few people it doesn't frustrate when she refuses to say more.

#fantasy high #fantasy high junior year #ruben hopclap #mary ann skuttle #rat grinders #fhjy spoilers

[pearlshroom]

That's what really happened to Lucy Frostblade 😔😔

#dimension 20 #fantasy high #fantasy high fanart #fantasy high junior year #fhjy spoilers #fhjy #kipperlilly copperkettle #lucy frostblade #frostkettle #i choose to belive that they were a couple #fight me #wlw #dnd #littledoggy girlcollar #rat grinders #the quality is so bad

[sorala]

I'm gonna type this half-baked thought/feeling before tomorrows ep, but I've been seeing a lot of bff kipperlilly/lucy stuff, and i can totally see where it's coming from and good for you. i just have this nagging thought that. well.

we only have from KLCKs perspective that she was closest with Lucy, we've never met Lucy. and from what we know about them both, (and maybe this is just me projecting personal experience and feelings) it seems at least possible to me that that's not how lucy thought of it

who else of their party was gonna calm KL down and temper her? the bffs have each other for backup so they're not intimidated, Ruben is quite confident and deliberately riled her up and mary ann doesn't care for personal relationships one way or the other. if i were in lucys position I'd try to make the group more enjoyable by taking extra care to pay attention to KLs moods too.

and i think the easiest way to keep the peace and "warm each other", the path of least resistance in that group, is what lucy would've taken. so whether or not she wants to, she's now KLs favourite

i just can't see fourdogs' entire personality changing so completely in less than a year or around just one person. she's so unashamed. and if what I'm considering was the case for Lucy, poor girl. She deserved people who would keep the fires lit for her too.

#anyway there's no point to this #next 'sode is probably gonna make this obsolete so I'm getting it out now #fhjy #d20 #fantasy high junior year #fhjy spoilers #fhjy speculation #lucy frostblade #kipperlily copperkettle #kipperlilly copperkettle #rat grinders #dimension 20 #fantasy high #d20 fantasy high

[ratgrinders]

There's something that strikes me about Ruben actually being the member of the Rat Grinders the MOST manipulated and strong-armed into it. None of the other Rat Grinders seem to have Jace all up in their business like Ruben does. Jace is cc'd CONSTANTLY on Ruben's emails, he seems to be the sole influence over Ruben's musical career and where he performs. Constantly getting in the way of Lola, having Ruben off doing other stuff instead of working on his music, and now Ruben canceling his tour?

I mean, it got to the point where the one trusted adult we know Ruben has in his corner, his uncle Henry, was CONCERNED for him. Henry must've noticed a concerning pattern of behavior from him, enough to try and get the school involved, and was rebuffed for his efforts. I can't get over how Ruben asked Henry for a ride home : (

Music is clearly something he's passionate about, and now all this rage god business has him canceling. None of the other Rat Grinders even showed up to his performance at Frosty Faire (who knows if it was the Rat Grinders' plan all along, but is this a pattern with them? Have they gone to any of his other performances or is it all about The Plan?)

Idk, with someone like Kipperlily I can see it being motivated by this grudge she's had since freshman year, but none of Ruben's decisions even seem to be his own anymore.

#dimension 20 #fantasy high #fantasy high junior year #original post #rat grinders #ruben hopclap

[sugaldean]

I trust Brennan with my life and I know he will not end this season with all the Rat Grinders being just horrible people

And i'm so happy, cause in a way I hate them but I want to understand them. I want to see them. I want reasons to hate them more or less. I want my opinion on them to become more and more blurry.

It's already starting, I'm already a bit sorry for Kipperlilly. I'm already confused by Ruben. Give me more. Let me know them. Let me have a mixed opinion on them

Let me have a complicated opinion on complicated characters

#dimension 20 #d20 #fhjy #rat grinders #fhjy spoilers #d20 fhjy

[villy-apolly]

I should say, for the people who struggle to empathize with the Rat Grinders, consider how much the bad kids disliked Aelwyn in the beginning, but then very quickly empathized with her despite all the horrible things she's done. U can also imagine that the rat grinders deserve that empathy too..

#fantasy high junior year #rat grinders #fhjy

[neimiismycoolgirlname]

I think it's interesting that Fabian has not had a nemesis alert from the Rat Grinders.

#dimension 20 spoilers #dimension 20 #fabian aramais seacaster #rat grinders #junior year #dropout

[remidyal]

Open Questions as we head into a massive lore drop tomorrow with the new episode, along with my best guesses as to the answers. Warning: Long post.

1) Who did Kalina have the spy's tongue curse with?

The most popular (and most likely, in my opinion) theory here is that it's Jace and/or Porter, who Ragh saw the night of Prompocolypse. The players at the table seem to think it's connected directly to Bakur and/or Lydia; however, Kalina DID say the name Lydia Barkrock during Spring Break to Riz.

There's some slight weirdness in the timeline around Aelwyn helping with the Spy's Tongue Curse in that the implication of her answer for when she was helping with it would be after she was arrested ('the end of freshman year going into that summer' when Aelwyn was arrested in early March) but it's not the first time the timeline around those events has been fucked and it probably won't be the last.

2) What's Jace's deal? Also, 2a) What's Porter's deal?

As of the end of episode 16, we can pretty safely say he was at SOME point killed and brought back via a deal with Ankarna. It's been pointed out that in Freshman Year his art did not cover his chest with the scarf; I'm not taking that as definitive evidence of anything, because that's the kind of retcon that can easy be explained away.

Jace and Porter did not seem to be on super friendly terms when Riz overheard them the first day of school freshman year, but by the end of the year, the night of Prom, they're on closer terms. Ragh, after the fight at Prom but inside of the school, sees Arianwen and Jace talking to someone he cannot at that point see, almost certainly Kalina. Later - it's not really clear HOW much later - Jace and Porter found Ragh, and Porter did some 'barbarian healing stuff' that presumably included a blood transfusion, because Ragh then CAN see Kalina and is threatened into silence by her.

It's quite clear to me from this that both Jace and Porter carried the curse of Kalina, and I'm of the belief that they were fulfilling their end of whatever deal was going on between Kalina and them by helping her agent in the form of Arianwen get the Crown.

Now which of them is in charge, and what're their respective motivations? That's much more interesting and I think independant.

I saw a theory on here that I LOVE and now fully believe that Jace was, in fact, the sorcerer in Lydia's party, and after dying to Bakur he took the deal to come back and is working for Ankarna. How truly willing he or any of the others who took that deal are at this point is another question. This is speculation, but it's really good speculation. This would obviously mean Jace was corrupted well before freshman year, but I don't actually think that's a problem.

Porter's more interesting, and I'm fully not certain which of the two are in charge, if either is, though my own speculation is that Porter is the primary driver. Jace clearly got him to help with Ragh because Porter would know Ragh and could easily infect him with Kalina; why they didn't kill him is an interesting question, though it may be as simple as Arthur Aguefort was back alive at that point and the death of one of the students who fought Kalvaxus wouldn't be a quiet matter. Still, Porter pushes rage as an almost religious matter, we do not know the nature of his own Paladin Oath, and his behavior towards Fig to push her away from Cassandra leads me to think he's a true believer sort who's in this willingly, not a revived pawn like Jace or the Ratgrinders appear to be.

3) What exactly happened to the Ratgrinders in the Mountains of Chaos?

I do not believe they all died there, for the simple reason that Lucy died in the Farhaven Woods. I think it's much more likely that either Jace targeted Kipperlilly specifically as the most fertile ground for rage and then it spread from there, or if the above speculation about Jace is wrong and he's also a more recent pawn that some thing terrible happened to SOME of them there. The details on this are really important to see, to me - there's a version of this story where Kipperlilly died willingly for the power it would bring, for example. I think this is one where we're VERY likely to get answers this episode.

4) What are the Ratgrinders using the Devil's Necter for?

I strongly believe all the stuff about modified memories is a red herring, though maybe it explains some odd behaviors here and there: I think they're using it to lie to gods. My own wild theory this was first used by LUCY to lie to her own god in prayer and get Ankarna's name from her by claiming they had already broken through Oblivati Mori, so why not share some information about the sister you loved so much? And then the guilt of having done this, and maybe even seeing some sort of backlash onto her god, is what led her to back out of whatever bits of the plan she had gone along with to that point for Kipperlilly's sake.

5) Why does Kipperlilly need to be principal?

I don't exactly believe that the Ratgrinders are looking for a long term senior year sort of situation; Kipperlilly being student body president and thus principal is the key to something within the bylaws.

The most likely thing to me here is that we don't yet have the details we'd need to answer why on this one.

The funniest callback sort of answer is that she needs to be principal in order to remove Watches and Wards from the library, which is supposed to prevent divine summonings on school grounds. It's stated in freshman year that only the Elven Oracle or Arthur Aguefort can remove the book, but this may well be Arthur Aguefort in his role as Principal rather than being tied to Arthur himself. Certainly Adaine wasn't likely to repeat her own mistake, at least. Also, potentially, this would be why they couldn't just change the bylaws for their endgoal directly instead of going through the election - the knockout enchantment on Watches and Wards is on the book, not part of the school bylaws. In any case, this could potentially be tied in to my guess on six, which is…

6) What's the overall plan here?

The overall plan, I think, is to bring Ankarna back fully to life during graduation in the gym, a place where a god (if a shitty one) was born. Elmville will be prepared for proper worship with the rage from the infections through the tree, etc, to provide enough worship to bring Ankarna in her current form back.

7) Who was the imposing figure who revived Buddy Dawn?

Very possible answers to this question are either a true form of some kind for Jace or Porter, some kind of Avatar of Ankarna (especially since they were not on the material plane, though it seems likely this figure was also involved for Yolanda or Lucy), some corrupted form for Kipperlilly, or some other servant of Ankarna. We really don't have enough to know.

8) What's going on with Bucky Applebees?

I think he's going through a crisis of faith similar to Kristen's, but just what kind of answers he might be reaching we really don't have enough to say. It wouldn't surprise me if the Ratgrinders have tried recruiting him in some way, however; it's a good way to hurt Kristen.

9) What, exactly, was the nature of Cassandra and Ankarna's relationship? Were they still together when Ankarna fell or when Cassandra became the Nightmare King? Were they actually on good terms?

I think these are possibly answers we're getting this week, and also I think there's a good chance that Ankarna and Cassandra had LONG since fallen out before Cassandra's rebirth as the Nightmare King. Did Ankarna blame her wife for Sol's followers stealing and killing hers? Did Cassandra see her wife turning more violent and less thoughtful out of desperation? Cassandra fell in one move of betrayal, we know, her followers convinced over her pleading that to know her name was heretical - and, for what it's worth, in the form she changed to the leaders of those followers were most certainly punished for their turning on their goddess. Ankarna's seems to have been far more gradual.

10) Can Ankarna actually be restored to her original form and domain, and is that a good idea to begin with, FIG?

We'll seeeeee. There's something profoundly interesting in the nature of gods in Spyre; they need the followers much more than the followers need them, for all their power. Spreading your religion makes your god healthier, but it also makes it so that you personally have a lot less control over the shape that belief takes. We've been told repeatedly that a single follower is all a god needs to stay alive, but clearly they need more than that to come to life to begin with, or to be reborn - not everybody has Kristen's spark of divinity, it seems.

11) Can Lucy be revived slash can any of the Ratgrinders be saved?

Maybe. As always in Fantasy High, what happens depends to a very large degree on what the players want to do, and what the dice agree to. I DO think we'll see Lucy be brought back, even if just in an epilogue.

#fhjy #fhjy spoilers #speculation #rat grinders #jace stardiamond #porter cliffbreaker #dimension 20 #fantasy high #ankarna #cassandra

[highfiveheroes]

do you think they mourned her? do you think kipperlilly ever had a moment where she was no longer blinded by rage and missed her best friend so badly she couldn’t breathe? do you think they ever had a collective moment past panic or denial where they made a joke and looked for her laughter? do you think they ever processed how tragic she is for never coming back?

lucy frostblade my beloved, did they give you a funeral? or did they disrespect you not once by changing the party name, not twice by what they did to you, but three times or more by never honoring you at all? did their denial run so deep it hurt worse than the blows they landed?

lucy frostblade, did they mourn you?

#lucy frostblade #d20 posting #fantasy high #d20 fhjy #d20 fantasy high #rat grinders #high five heroes #the tragedy of lucy frostblade hurts my heart

[quaintly-quiet-queer]

Eat Your Friends by Jhariah & Pinkshift is a Rat Grinders song, and it’s both the sickest shit ever and breaking my heart

#dimension 20 #d20 fhjy #fantasy high #rat grinders #jhariah #trust ceremony #kipperlilly copperkettle #lucy frostblade #Spotify