#pro mace windu

[nateofgreat]

It's funny how certain elements of the fandom are so resistant to the idea that Mace Windu defeated Palpatine fair and square... When I thought the entire purpose of Palpatine's plan was to avoid detection and infiltrate the Republic specifically so the Jedi wouldn't catch on and come for him?

Like if Palpatine really is just so stupidly powerful that nobody could ever defeat him there wouldn't even be a purpose to his big plan. He would just attack outright at the head of the Separatists or he'd order the Clone Army for himself or something. The fact that he didn't shows that he knew the Jedi were a threat to him.

So surely Mace Windu, the second most powerful Jedi after Yoda and the one who specialized in anti-Sith techniques would be able to defeat him in battle. If he couldn't and Palpatine was just playing him, Anakin's decision served no narrative purpose because it wouldn't have changed anything anyways.

#Star Wars #Mace Windu #Mace Windu appreciation #pro Mace Windu #Palpatine #Darth Sidious #The Jedi #The Jedi Order #Pro Jedi #Anakin Skywalker

[shootingstarpilot]

at some point I'm gonna write a oneshot where obi-wan gets de-aged (to like bandomeer age or something, so we still got a nice lil sprinkle of trauma in there)- the old sith artifact trope, or something like that, that's not important because what i want is baby obi-wan sensing some deep and dangerous darkness in anakin and absolutely refusing to let him near him (or any of the other medics), and anakin's growing more and more frustrated and angry and helix is just about to hit him with a stunner because he's not leaving when obi-wan's eyes widen and in an instant he's off the bed and darting around anakin (who tries to grab him, but he's too slow) and into the hallway and then they hear an oof--

helix glares down skywalker and strides out--

and nearly trips over mace, kneeling on the floor, with obi-wan clinging to him like a koala.

the 187th had been the next-closest, after the 501st. and when cody had commed the council with the news, well... no one had to ask who would go to them.

anyway head empty no thoughts only anakin having to reckon with the fact that this kid version of his master absolutely adores mace windu, of all people, and wants nothing to do with his own padawan.

featuring mace and obi-wan fluff and h/c (because the concept of mace being his finder is SO IMPORTANT TO ME), anakin being an ass, the 187th and 212th fighting a custody battle to end all custody battles, and an eventual tusken massacre reveal, because what do you mean when you say darkness, obi-wan?

(and listen i know he's a fictional character but i think a mace windu hug would fix me.)

#my writing #obi-wan kenobi #mace windu #pro mace windu #anti anakin skywalker #anakin skywalker critical #de-aged obi-wan #the concept of mace as obi-wan's finder is near and dear to my heart #and i will find a way to work it into everything i write #just watch me

[beginnerblueglass]

You guys do realize that Mace Windu never once comes close to swearing, right? He also doesn’t shout very often. He’s not going around screaming “MOTHERF***ERS” all the time, okay? Are you sure you’re not just projecting your possibly/probably racist presuppositions onto a canonically kind and respectful black man?

#star wars #jedi #jedi love #mace windu #pro mace windu #pro jedi council #pro jedi order #pro jedi #jedi positive

[currentlyobsessedwithobi-wan]

A way too popular trope in fanfictions (in my opinion) : Making Mace Windu an heartless bastard every times they need a bad guy in the Jedi Order.

Why ? Just why ?

#star wars #pro jedi #jedi order #in defense of the jedi #mace windu #Pro mace Windu

[inquisitor-apologist]

Just gonna come out and say it: Mace Windu should’ve survived and should’ve become the grandmaster of the New Jedi Order. Luke was probably not ready for that (as a Jedi. He was just knighted) and deserved to learn the traditions and cultures of the Order from a living Master

#and you cannot TELL me that Luke ‘i was willing to sacrifice everything for the possibility of killing palpatine’ Skywalker wouldn’t have #have LOVED Mace ‘After I realized Palps was a Sith I recognized the threat of Palpatine and almost killed him’ Windu #to be clear I like grandmaster Luke but he needs more time post RotJ #star wars #mace windu #mace windu is alive #grandmaster mace Windu #luke skywalker #pro mace Windu #pro Jedi #pro Jedi order #pro prequel Jedi

[foundfamilynonsense]

For the last time: critical analysis of a media does not mean the same thing as criticizing that media.

It’s about thinking critically. It’s about thinking who made this story and what biases do they hold.

Critical analysis of Star Wars is not: “actually the good guys HAVE to be bad too bc there’s no such thing as absolute good and absolute bad and therefore thinking critically means we’re supposed to hate the good guys!” no. It’s kids movies. In this universe there is an absolute good and absolute bad.

Critical analysis of Star Wars is: who has written these tv shows and video games and books that depict the Jedi in a bad light? Are these people working with the original creator? Do these people have an alternator motive or idea that strays from the original canon? Did these people have any real oversight? What other reasons could there be in framing this well known black character in a bad light while building up white characters we know to be evil in the original work?

#star wars #pro jedi #pro mace windu #anti dave filoni #tales of the jedi

[coconuts-are-mammals]

anyway i just came to say mace windu supremacy

#pro mace windu #iaminaminoramountofpain rants

[short-wooloo]

People certainly love to take Mace Windu to task for what he says to Boba huh?

But the thing is, what Mace said to Boba in TCW is right

Ordinarily I wouldn't say you have to forgive someone, that's personal choice

But the fact of the matter is Boba has taken things waaaay to far

He blew up a MILITARY WARSHIP, during a war, just to get at one man

All to get revenge, while calling it justice, in the name of a violent murderer

A violent murder who chose to pick a fight with Mace

Also, Mace's words as him telling Boba don't really come off as "you HAVE to forgive me!"

There's a tone of resignation to it

It came off as a more matter of fact, "you're going to have to, because you got people killed, destroyed a military warship, and got arrested for such, and because the system refuses to be lenient, all you have is time to think and come to terms with everything"

Boba's desire for revenge, refusal to let go (of a horrible person), is dragging him down, it has ruined lives, if he's going to be able to move on and function, he needs to let go, because killing Mace is not justice, it will not bring Jango back, all it would do is sink Boba further

#star wars #wooloo-writes #wooloo writes #sw #mace windu #boba fett #jango fett #pro mace windu #in defense of mace windu #anti jango fett #on letting go

[asocial-skye]

Mace Windu folds paper birds and bakes desserts from his home planet. I do not take criticism.

#star wars #starwars #mace windu #jedi #jedi council #jedi order #we love and respect mace windu #pro mace windu #mace windu is a great character #i like anakin and mace windu #shout it from the rooftops

[gritsandbrits]

Look as much as i am for moral ambiguity sometimes i wish people would just stop trying to force it on every little thing. The force isn't grey it is not a form of moral ambiguity. The dark side is very much evil. It fucks you up mentally emotionally and physically. You can't just explain it away as "well I'll make sure i don't fall into it completely I'll just use it to help people" that's just leaving you open to corruption. You can fight it all you want but eventually it does pull you down.

Meanwhile the Light Side (dare i say the TRUE Force) is not corrupt. It represents everything good like love, peace, healthy boundaries, compassion, redemption. But also the power of choice. So to see Jedi who embody/respects these traits suddenly turned into "grey" Jedi bc they don't go the traditional way. misses the point. When it comes to the force you HAVE to choose light or dark there is no third option and you can't make up a third option just to take the easy way out.

#anti grey jedi #Light Side #pro jedi #pro mace windu

[enigmaticexplorer]

Mace Windu: A brief character analysis

I’ve always been surprised by the claim that Mace Windu is heartless. That he doesn’t care about other people. I’m assuming those who believe this haven’t actually watched Season 1 of TCW.

Mace Windu is more serious, dogmatic, and aloof than most other Jedi. He’s sarcastic at times. Obstinate in other moments. 

But he’s not heartless. And he’s certainly not uncaring.

There are three moments in TCW 1:21: “Liberty on Ryloth” that contradict the ‘heartless/uncaring’ claims. 

1. The Rescue

In the opening sequence of “Liberty on Ryloth,” Mace’s transport is destroyed. As he escapes, he rescues the driver of the transport. 

It may seem like a “bare minimum” moment, but it’s not. Mace is being shot at by long-range cannons. He needs to join his men behind the protection of another transport. He needs to get to a semblance of safety.

Instead, he orders the men with him to “Take cover.” He doesn’t ask for their help. And then he takes time—that is precious in a life-or-death situation—to rescue the clone pilot. A man he doesn’t even know is alive. And he rescues this clone trooper without hesitation or regard for his own life. 

Again, this seems like such an inconsequential moment but it’s important to Mace’s character. We have seen countless times throughout TCW when other Jedi and clone troopers have left clones who are presumed dead. 

From a battle strategy standpoint, it makes sense. When you’re in the heat of battle, your job is to stay alive and protect those who are alive. You’re not given the opportunity to check on every soldier who could potentially be alive.

But in this moment, Mace risks his own life to rescue a clone trooper who’s not even guaranteed to be alive. 

2. The Bridge

Toward the end of the episode, Mace and two clone troopers are trying to cross the bridge into the capital city of Ryloth. The bridge can be turned on and off. And since the Separatist droids command the bridge’s operation tower, they turn it off. 

Rather than get himself to safety first, Mace Force throws/pushes his two men to solid land. Without hesitation, he saves them first. 

This might seem like another “bare minimum” moment, but it’s significant. Mace is a general. Per military hierarchy, you want to keep your top-military leaders alive. Their lives are more important than those of regular troopers. (Whether you agree with this sentiment or not isn’t the point of this post.) 

“But Mace has the Force, so he could save himself.”

Sure. He does have the Force, and in an impressive display of his skillset, he saves himself. But it was still a risk. He didn’t save the two troopers under the assumption he would survive the bridge’s collapse. There wasn’t a guarantee he would survive. 

He did save those two troopers, and he put them first, because he’s a good leader who values the lives of his troopers.

It's also important to note that Mace is more restrictive with his battle strategies—modest and less inclined to brazen maneuvers. (Obviously, when necessary, he will rise to the occasion, but usually when it's necessary.) Unlike Anakin who, in "Storm of Ryloth" admits his strategies are risky and endanger more lives, Mace is slower to act, contemplating his strategies so that they're effective and minimize risk. It's not outright stated he does this because he values his troopers' lives. But I believe it shows his care for the men under his command.

3. The Politicking 

Returning to the beginning of the episode, Mace is discussing his battle plan to take back the capital city of Ryloth. He’s discussing his plan with Chancellor Palpatine, Senator Taa, Yoda, Obi-Wan, and Admiral Yularen.

Palpatine and Taa immediately dismiss Mace’s plan to engage Cham Syndulla’s Freedom Fighters on the claim Cham is a radical and political rival to Taa. Mace replies, “I’ll leave the politics to you, Senator. I’m going to do whatever I can to help these people.”

Whether you like or dislike Mace Windu is beside the point. He may be dogmatic, obstinate, and aloof. He may be easily irritated by Skywalker, and a self-righteous voice amongst the Jedi Order. But he’s not heartless. And he does care for people. 

As we can see from this scene, Mace is willing to bat against both the Chancellor—the head of the Republic government—as well as a senator in order to help the people of Ryloth. He doesn’t care about politics. He doesn’t care that Palpatine and Taa feel threatened by Cham Syndulla. He doesn’t care because all that matters is saving the victims of Separatist occupation, and he will do whatever is necessary to protect these people.

“But he was mean to Anakin and referred to Ahsoka as ‘Citizen Tano’.”

Okay? Sorry you can’t appreciate the hilarity of his dogmatic pettiness.

All that to say, Mace can be an absolute dick. But he’s not a heartless dick.

#do I relate to Mace since he is both an ISTJ and Enneagram 1w9? #yes #does this make me biased? #also yes #mace windu #pro mace windu #the clone wars #star wars

[nateofgreat]

So I don't know why people (outside the anti-Jedi's even) think Mace Windu was behaving so wrongfully when he want to arrest Palpatine and attempted to kill him.

First off, he really did try to arrest Palpatine initially. It's only after he proved both extremely powerful on top of his political influence that he decided he was too dangerous to keep alive. So he wasn't some bloodthirsty lunatic blindly attacking him.

I've seen some videos that suggest Mace would've been acting out of hatred on account of Palpatine killing the other Jedi Masters. But while it would certainly be understandable for someone in Mace's position to be thinking like that, his dialogue indicates otherwise.

"The oppression of the Sith will never return! You have lost."

"He controls the Senate and the courts, he's too dangerous to keep alive!"

We see from this that Mace is still thinking both altruistically, acting to prevent the oppression of the Sith from returning to the Galaxy, and not out of vengeance. Furthermore he's able to rationalize why Palpatine needed to die and it was because he could likely worm his way out of justice with his power and influence. Mace doesn't seem like he was acting out of anger or hatred.

As for it "not being the Jedi way" I'm sure it's true that the Jedi prefer to take people alive and not kill them, which is why Mace tried to arrest Palpatine in the first place. But I also don't think such a one in a million situation is something the Jedi would object too. Not when it concerned a Sith who'd orchestrated a war that killed millions just to get himself elected emergency powers.

#Star Wars #Mace Windu #Mace Windu appreciation #pro Jedi #In defense of the Jedi #Pro Mace Windu #Palpatine #Sheev Palpatine #Darth Sidious #The Jedi

[shootingstarpilot]

9, 12, & 19 for the choose violence ask game?

Oooh, thanks for this!

9. You're mad/ashamed/horrified you actually kind of like...

Easy. The filthiest, most evil (affectionate) smut known to man. Take your pick of the trope, I've read it, and I've loved it. When it comes to E-rated fics, there's very little I've excluded for. But hey, resolution for 2024- kill the inner Puritan, right?

12. Name a common fandom complaint that you're sick of hearing.

"Mace Windu should've-"

Shut up! Shut the fuck up!

Mace Windu did nothing wrong actually!! Mace Windu is the absolute embodiment of a good guy!! The archetype of a hero!! He died trying to save the galaxy and you're over here telling me he should've been nicer to the genocidal fascist idiot who doomed it? I think the fuck not!

Every time I think about the fact that he trusted Anakin and died for it I want to scream! He was fucking right to be hesitant about admitting Anakin!! Tell me you missed the whole point about that scene without telling me you missed the whole point of that scene! He was right! He always was!

19. Best canon example of good parenting in Star Wars

There are two that come to mind- both of which have the same core at heart:

Shmi, and the Jedi.

Shmi clearly loves Anakin. But when it comes down to it- when she has the chance to give him a better life, with people who are more well-equipped to help, and she knows it- she lets him go. She tells him not to look back, she tells him change is inevitable-

People have written far more thoughtful metas on this than I have, but in short, Shmi is very much reflecting canon Jedi teachings on non-attachment here. And that brings me to my second point- in every canon interaction we see the Jedi having with their younglings, there is nothing there but the utmost love and care and thoughtfulness. They die trying to protect their kids, for fuck's sake! The Jedi and Shmi are both excellent examples of parenting because their parenting comes from the same philosophy!

The Choose Violence ask game in question

#pro mace windu #pro jedi #anakin critical #anti anakin #the importance of non-attachment in parenting

[levitatingbiscuits]

I was reading that luke defense and thay uncalled shot at Mace Windu. How unnecessary. So effing tiring being a Mace stan

It is fucking exhausting. People are sooooo mad that Mace was right all along about Anakin and justified in his mistrust (and also stronger and better at being a Jedi in general). Anakin both literally and metaphorically stabbed him in the back, because he never could have fought Mace on equal grounds, so he attacked when his guard was down and ganged up on him with Palpatine. Considering that the Force was WARNING MACE ABOUT THIS, albeit indirectly, with the shatterpoints, he'd be 100% justified in his mistrust EVEN IF Anakin was otherwise a perfect Jedi, which he NEVER WAS. He was arrogant and angry and self-absorbed and relied on Palpatine's nepotism to get on the Council, and then he threw a tantrum when the Council was like "we've been forced to accept you into our ranks by corruption and outside interference, but we're not gonna lie to you and pretend that you've achieved mastery when you clearly have not." Mastery for Jedi means mastery of SELF, which Anakin never managed to do. He just thought that being powerful and good at fighting and the chancellor's nepotism appointee meant he should just be GIVEN the rank of master without doing the internal work necessary to achieve it. Hell, considering his behavior during his knighting ceremony, I'm personally of the opinion that he should have stayed a padawan the whole trilogy. But there was a war on, so needs must, I suppose.

I genuinely do not understand why people are always shitting on Mace. He wasn't even the one making most of the decisions they're salty about! Blame Yoda, if you have to!! Is it blorbo brainrot? Is it racism? WHAT DID HE DO WRONG? ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOTHING, SO WHY DO PEOPLE INSIST THAT HE DID???

#pro jedi #pro mace windu #pro jedi order #fandom wank #salt

[beginnerblueglass]

It’s either: “Mace was too attached to the Republic! He only cared about what the Senate told him to do, and the power he got from being the senate’s ‘errand boy’.”

Or it’s: “Mace was going to kill the corrupt head of state after said corrupt head of state resisted arrest and killed Mace’s friends?? Mace was going to bypass the judicial system by denying a violent man whom he now knows is responsible for billions of deaths a fair trial, which would become unfair under the influence and manipulation of said violent man?? SHAME!!!”

#star wars #jedi #jedi love #pro mace windu #in defense of mace windu #love mace windu #mace windu #pro jedi community #pro jedi

[unitlover51000]

Chapters:  2/6 

Rating:

Teen And Up Audiences

Archive Warnings

:

Graphic Depictions Of Violence

Major Character Death

Category:

F/M

Fandom:

Star Wars Prequel Trilogy

Relationship:

Mace Windu & Original Female Character(s)

Characters:

Mace Windu

Original Female Character(s)

Yoda (Star Wars)

Depa Billaba

Additional Tags:

Falling In Love

Love

Pre-Star Wars: The Clone Wars

Pre-Star Wars: Attack of the Clones

Pre-Star Wars : The Phantom Menace

Star Wars : Revanche of the Sith

Order 66 (Star Wars)

Post-Order 66 (Star Wars)

Language: Français

Series:Part 1 of Un lien dans la Force

Summary:

Trente-quatre ans après leur première rencontre, Mace et Exzila se retrouvent à la demande du chancelier Palpatine. Ces retrouvailles sont l'occasion de révélation qui pourrait avoir un impact sur Mace Windu...

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