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ruhnlidiasworld · 3 months

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“Azriel can't have a book because SJM only have female protagonist”

Chaol Westfall somewhere in the MaasVerse:

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whatisamettafor · 9 months

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Chaol, my love, my darling boy, and his wonderful, amazing wife.

#chaol westfall #yrene towers #yrene westfall #tower of dawn #throne of glass #pro chaol

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lorcandidlucienwill · 6 months

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Chaorene vs Feysand Pregnancy

A lot of people have pointed out that Feyre’s pregnancy trope is awful, but I haven’t seen anyone compare it to Yrene’s yet and I think it would help a lot of people understand the countless problems with it. First let’s discuss Yrene’s pregnancy: Yrene's baby was a regular human baby so it carried minimal risk to her life. Actually, she hid her pregnancy initially because she didn't want Chaol to worry, but clearly, the baby was entirely her choice. But even after Chaol found out, it didn't stop Yrene from healing a bunch of people on a daily basis, including removing Valg from human bodies. Chaol had an insane amount of faith in her, so much faith that even though he was worried as hell, he trusted Yrene to take on the DEMON KING Erawan which she did and won because she is a baddie. Even Lorcan points out that he's "not sure Yrene is human" because she's such a queen. Clearly, being pregnant didn't stop her from taking action. Now let's discuss Feyre's pregnancy: Feyre was complaining about being seen as a "trophy wife" by Tamlin (I just don't see this at all but go figure), yet after being constantly objectified by Rhysand, being sexually assaulted, and playing his whore, she finds herself a year later isolated from everybody, forced to walk around with a heavy shield and unable to go anywhere without heavy protection, forced to hide her pregnancy from everyone until it was "deemed safe," and she was unaware of the fact that her baby will most likely kill her. Rhysand threatened Nesta into not telling and when she did tell her (as was in her right), he nearly killed her. Not to mention Rhysand was acting like a possessive asshole, antagonizing everybody who got anywhere near her. But canonically, Feyre is very powerful. So why the hell doesn't he trust her? Why does he isolate her? Yet I see Chaol get an insane amount of hate from this fandom and Rhysand doesn't get nearly enough. Yrene's pregnancy is inspiring. Feyre's pregnancy is the upholding of toxic masculinity and underlies the major problems with pro-choice advocacy. It's amazing that both are written by the same author. But it shows that SJM is capable of writing a proper story if she actually tries.

#yrene towers #yrene westfall #pro chaol #chaol westfall #chaorene #anti rhysand #anti feysand #tog > acotar #yrene kingslayer #feyre deserves better

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tinasshelf · 5 months

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I’ll never get over Chaol apologizing to Aelin in QoS, and Aelin not ever acknowledging her own hypocrisy and just going “Yeah sorry I tried to kill you, teehee!” …intimate partner violence is not cute.

Chaol had every right to be frustrated with her and while he shouldn’t have given her so much blame and could’ve expressed himself better, a lot of his concerns where completely valid and reasonable. Aelin blamed Chaol for things completely out of his control (Dorians capture, Nehemias death) and went against her word and tried to kill Dorian. But the difference is shes never expected to apologize or even acknowledge that she was ever in the wrong.

HES the one who has to come to Aelin with an apology. Because he wasn’t riding her dick the whole time and actually gave her some pushback? Because he couldn’t read her mind when she choses to withold infomation for no reason, even though he was always complicit in her plans? Alright then !!

(I don’t want to seem like I hate Aelin btw, I just went through a rough patch with her esp in this book.)

#throne of glass #anti aelin #pro chaol #anti sjm #Don’t get me wrong I don’t hate Aelin #but sjm has a huge problem with unknowingly writing her mcs as hypocrites #queen of shadows #Chaol Westfall #aelin ashryver galathynius

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fenrysmoonbeamswife · 3 months

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Ironic how Chaol is so utterly loathed for not immediately accepting Aelin (for all of two seconds btw) but nobody bats an eye at Ruhn for the exact same behaviour with Lidia that was arguably worse and lasted longer and he didn't make up for nearly half as much as Chaol did ☕️

(Disclaimer I actually like Ruhn this is more of a dig at this insane fandom)

#pro chaol #sjm #throne of glass #ruhn danaan #lidia cervos #crescent city #house of flame and shadow #chaol westfall

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whatthe-everythingstaken · 1 month

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I’ve been reading SJM books the past few months and I honestly did not expect the amount of actual fighting happening between grown women about ships.

I love it. Please bring me into it

I don’t have strong opinions about any characters but I’ll form them if someone wants to argue I promise

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gabilina · 4 months

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Sarah J Maas and her beloved Rowaelin

So… long time ago I was sitting in my room relaxing, when I found an interesting post on Instagram. The creator of this post goes by a nickname @yaz.the.bookish

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stargirlie25 · 4 months

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Cardan greenbrair🤝 Jacks🤝 Dante santos🤝 Aaron warner🤝Damon torrance🤝 Eris vanserra🤝 Chaol Westfall 🤝All being our favorite problematic boysies

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the-darkestminds · 2 months

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I feel like people who despise Chaol lack perspective, and empathy. It’s important to understand just how insanely miserable Chaol is in Queen of Shadows. He lives in a constant state of pain and stress and worry over all of his failures, the biggest being Dorian. He feels like he has lost everything and he hates himself so much. So of course he’s going to lash out at people. Try to lessen the burden of his guilt by placing the blame on Aelin. Chaol is flawed and imperfect and human. He’s in a terrible place, emotionally. He blames himself for what happened to Dorian. Does he not deserve a little compassion?

#pro Chaol #sarah j maas #acowar #sjm #acomaf #acotar #throne of glass #Chaol #queen of shadows #heir of fire #crown of midnight #kingdom of ash #koa #empire of storms #eos #Aelin #yrene #yrene towers #yrene westfall

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achaotichuman · 2 months

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This is my first and last TOG post ever.

Anyone who says Chaol was in the wrong for not accepting or trusting Aelin after she was revealed to be Fae is someone I do not trust in the slightest.

My baby can do no wrong.

#aelin cannot go and scar him for life #blame him for a death he literally had no part in causing #get mad that he didn't like fae #and get mad that he still trusted dorian even though he had magic in his veins #as if he hadn't known dorian for the better part of his entire life #and known aelin for what #two years #two and a half??#its been three years since I read the series #everyone was too hard on chaol #who was literally just vibing with his life #and had it all uphauled by aelin #and an evil monarchy #none of it was his fault #pro chaol westfall #pro chaol #throne of glass #AELIN THREATENED TO KILL DORIAN FOR GODS SAKE OF COURSE CHAOL IS GONNA BE LIKE 'AND YOU WANT ME TO FUCKIN TRUST YOU????'

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nestarcheronmommy · 9 months

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"You'd rather my queen to die than your king? "

Fenrys...Fenrys my love... YOU'D RATHER DORIAN TO DIE THAN AELIN?

I love you Fenrys but fuck you, what was that? Are you stupid? Chaol never said Aelin should die. I don't understand how people find this hot, Chaol could have say the same about Dorian.

#tog #throne of glass #sjm critical #anti sjm #sjm books #pro chaol #chaol westfall #dorian havilliard

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highladyofterrasen7 · 4 months

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“Why do people hate chaol”

We hate chaol because for the longest time Celaena/aelin hated chaol. When reading you somewhat absorb the feelings of certain characters, with c/a’s dislike of him, we disliked him. She disliked him because he didn’t tell her of the threat to nehemia’s life which caused her to spiral into despair and we sympathised with her, after all the death of a friend you felt like you could’ve prevented is heartbreaking. It’s why due to ToD many people came to like chaol because the book was free of the bias that came with c/a’s pov.

And lots of people were able to overcome that and like chaol and ToD, some were not and some (like me) are somewhat on the fence

#I hope this makes sense #sarah j maas #throne of glass #aelin galathynius #celaena sardothien #chaol westfall #tower of dawn #pro chaol #not entirely but I feel like you’re the people who could use this #yrene towers #yrene westfall #chaorene #this is 100% not anti aelin #it’s her perspective and her feelings #this doesn’t even include his personality

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lorcandidlucienwill · 5 months

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SJM characters whose hate makes no sense

Lorcan Salvaterre: aight ik he's a cold-ass warrior but that Maeve thing is not as big a deal as it's made out to be ok. Y'all forget that Aelin was stupid hiding her plans from experienced war generals and that Lorcan never pretended to be loyal to Aelin. And he never intended for Aelin to go through that torture. Plus Maeve would've found them anyway! A little slower, yeah, but still. Nesta Archeron: ok, come on man. She said some mean words, get over it already pls. there are so many characters who did way worse and get no hate for it. Eris Vanserra: ok he called mor a slut. so what? he's playing a role, plus that bitch be spreading heinous lies about him. and he has shown more respect for mor by bailing her out of their marriage and saving her from her father keir, than the entire inner circle who subjected her to her abuser without even telling her. he's not sexist, he's a mama's boy! besides rhysand objectified feyre's breasts in front of a high lord so. Chaol Westfall: Aight bruh tf did he do? It's one thing knowing someone is an assassin and another thing seeing someone actually murder people. He had nothing to do with Nehemia's death, so don't even with that. Celaena was the one who tried to kill him after claiming to love him. What did you expect Chaol to be all sunshine and rainbows with her? Pls be fr. Besides he's Fleetfoot's number one protector so. Additionally, if you haven't read Tower of Dawn, you have zero content. Friendly reminder if you hate Chaol, Dorian AND Aelin don't like you. Nor do Yrene or Nesryn. Gwyneth Berdara: It's mainly Elriels who keep making up evil Gwyn theories and...stop. Just stop. I don't even gaf if you ship them, but don't drag Gwyn into this, ok? She's so precious and she's a r*pe SURVIVOR. LEAVE. HER. ALONE. And if you say she's lying about that and it's part of her evil plan, I will become the monster under your bed. Lucien Vanserra: If you call Lucien a pushover or an abuser, I will actually become violent. Stop blaming male abuse victims. Just stop it. It's ridiculous. Lucien did fight for her and got abused. Go back and read. He's a r*pe survivor too, because he took on the duties his High Lord wouldn't for the sake of his court. Also, if you're dragging him through the dirt because you're an Elriel shipper, the door is that way --> Bombastic side eye to haters of these characters. ESPECIALLY my favorite sassy redheads (Gwyn and Lucien). Maybe y'all are just salty all these characters have last names while half of your favs still don't.

#lorcan salvaterre #nesta archeron #eris vanserra #chaol westfall #gwyneth berdara #lucien vanserra #lorcan stan #pro nesta archeron #pro eris vanserra #pro chaol #pro gwyneth berdara #pro lucien vanserra

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tinasshelf · 5 months

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“Chaol accepted Dorians magic but not Aelins”

…no he didn’t? Did we read the same books? Chaol didn’t talk to Dorian for almost the entirety of Heir of Fire because he didn’t know how to feel about Dorian having magic. Chaol says to Dorian that he wishes things where different and Dorian didn’t have magic in the first place. Chaol was not instantly in favor of Dorians magic and opposed to Aelins. And he comes to accept both of them having magic, but of course hes going to accept his lifelong friend who helped him escape his abusive household sooner them hes going to accept his ex-lover who tried to kill him and who hes seen enjoy taking a life.

Its really not that hard to grasp y’all just like looking for any reason to bash Chaol.

#throne of glass #sarah j maas #chaol westfall #dorian havilliard #aelin ashryver galathynius #pro chaol #I hope this doesn’t seem anti-aelin its not I swear #you just have to understand where hes coming from #his fear of aelin and her magic is legitimate like hes seen what she can do without it #a lot of the stuff he said was NOT ok but its from a place of genuine fear #hes been raised to fear magic no shit hes not going to instantly accept either of them

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bubybubsters · 3 months

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guys help

How do y’all pronounce Chaol?

Like “chow” or “cow” or “k-o”??

cuz I kept saying “chow” in my head and I think that’s what makes me like Dorian better.

#bubybubsters #tog #throne of glass #helppp #help me #chaol westfall #pro chaol #HELP #I FEEL SO DUMB #PRONOUNCING IT CHOW

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gabilina · 1 month

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“Chaol loved the idea of Aelin”

I've seen this type of comments on Instagram and Tik Tok which is another prove that readers have problems with reading comprehension.

While being Celaena Sardothien, she and Chaol were in a relationship in which they hid many things from each other. It wasn't only on Chaols part, in fact… they both fücked up in this. During that time, he knew her being the assassin and not the lost princess. He only realised that she is Terrasen's heir bc before departuring to Wendlyn (which is at the ending of the book) she whispered to his ear some date or something.

My question is:

How could Chaol Westfall love all of her if he didn't knew that Celaena Sardothien, the Adarlans assassin was in fact Aelin Ashryver Galathynius, the lost princess and heir of Terrasen and didn't even get a chance to do so bc of how these books were written?

Chaol didn't love some idea of Celaena/Aelin, he loved the parts of her she SHOWED him and ALLOWED him to know. It's not his fault for not loving the parts she perpusely hid.

#pro chaol #pro chaol westfall #anti aelin #anti sarah j maas #anti throne of glass #anti sjm #anti tog #anti rowaelin

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