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What’s funny to me is that MHA’s Shoto Todoroki/Momo Yaoyorozu was the supposed “canon” ship for the characters involved. Especially before it became (increasingly) apparent that their “canonicity” is HIGHLY unlikely. Yeah, it’s easy to assume that the pair are “supposed” to be together due to their looks and socioeconomic status. However, I think Todoroki/Yaomomo will likely struggle to function as a “healthy, romantic couple” (much less resolve conflict in a healthy way). During the exam with Eraser Head, their behaviour/attitude toward each other were very telling (in my opinion). Given Kohei Horikoshi’s writing style, he’ll probably come up with some bullshit adjacent to “wiping tears with money.” Doesn’t help that neither Todoroki or Yaomomo have enough differences to balance/contrast each other.
This coming from someone who doesn’t mind the pair platonically. (No offence to the non-toxic fans. 👈💅)
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Agreed. No hate to shippers though. I actually do understand the idea, yknow, two beautiful smart rich kids together, they would look perfect together but i personally always find it as forced and superficial.
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First of all, as you mentioned anon, they dont have 'the balance'. Usually, if two characters are 'parallels', their similar sides may lead them to understand and relate each others while their opposite sides may lead them to attract, challenge and even balance each others. That kind of pair always works. Because thats actually how most healthy partnerships works, whether its romantic or platonic.
For example, Shouto and Izuku are both abuse victims which is why they can relate and they would rather trust each others than trusting an adult or any autoharity figures while Izuku's expressive and anxious nature match with Shouto's calm natures. Or Shigaraki and Toga. Toga's positive nature balance Shigaraki's hatred while their bratty monstrous side make them relate to each others.
Ironically Shouto and Momo is opposite of this.
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Their similar side is that they are both airheaded, rich, beautiful kids with amazing quirks. They are both sheltered kids, this is why their similar side would limit their worldview. Because neither of them does know nothing about being an outcasts or common people. They live in their own world. I think both of them need to see outside of world of their own. But neither of them seems to realize they even need to develop that side of them. This is why this doesnt work. Even their opposite sides, such as Shouto's being abused child while Momo never experienced that. She is naive. There is no abuse in her world. No pain. She wouldnt understand the signs or other things. For example, Ochaco is similar to Momo about this. She isnt abused but because of her family's sitution and all, she notices when people are in pain but Momo isnt. Not blaming her though since thats how she was raised. But this is why their relationship doesnt work. Momo and Shouto cant balance or challenge or really relate each others as characters is why i dont ship them.
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Though, i wouldnt be surprised, if it becomes canon because Momo is the only 'female student' he seems to really interact with and Momo repeatedly said she trusts 'Todoroki-san' or how she appears randomly each others arc, such as how happy Momo looked for Shouto on license exam from background or how Shouıto randomly starts talking for Momo at class a vs class b arc. These are actually my problem with this ship. Because it isnt earned.
As you said anon, Aizawa is the one who noticed Momo was having problem and thats why Shouto helped her. Not because he noticed that she was having trouble. And he gave her courage by saying he voted for her.
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Look, i do understand why Momo would admire Shouto. He is the best, strongest student in her class. Who wouldnt be happy, if class best student said they trust you to win the match and i do understand why Shouto would trust her abilities since she is smart and very good at making plans. But thats it.
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Why would Momo trust Shouto to the point she would go against the rules to save Bakugou? I mean, we know Shouto is kind, trustworthy as audience but Momo doesnt know that?? He never showed that side of him to her. She knows nothing about him. She puts him on high regard since the beginning even when he was Earlyroki, just because boy looks perfect but Shouto needs someone who wouldnt view him as perfect. I would rather to see this as just some admiration or small attraction than actual love. It makes more sense that way.
Compare this to Iida, Izuku, Ochaco, Shouto group. Group trust Izuku because he broke his own body to help people, to help Ochaco, to help Shouto, to help Iida but what did Shouto do for her to trust him that much? Nothing.
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Also the scene when Shouto speaks for her of all people is kinda laughable to me. Like, Shouto, you know nothing about Momo. You guys dont even talk at all. You wouldnt know how she would feel or think. It would makes more sense if it was Jirou who said that since 1- they interacts a lot 2- at usj attack, she saved her and Kaminari. Wouldnt it makes more sense Jirou to speak for her, like how much smart she is or show she feels lack of confidence sometimes and all.
I keep saying it feels forced and superficial because they trust each other's abilities and thats why they trust each others but as person, they are strangers.
Well, lack of interaction between kids in class1a is one of the issues with writing. Especially between female-male relationships. This is why 'gay' ships seems more makes sense lol since author doesnt really bother to develop others (especially female characters). But i think some of those relationships still feels deep and makes sense, while those two doesnt. And it isnt well build at all. Though, just as i menitoned at first, because of their dynamic, i still wouldnt like it. Its like shoujo manga romance, kinda innocent cool handsome rich boy x pretty rich girl dynamic, to me, its undermines both of their characters because they are more than this.
During the story;
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Momo is hardly part of main plot. She is beautiful. She is talented. She has parents and friends who uncontionally loves her. She is smart. She is good girl. She seems to interacts with Jirou and others. Her rivalry with Kendou is interesting. She hardly even talk with Shouto.
Shouto is one of the main characters. Story focus on his relationships with family the most. His main hero partners are Izuku and Bakugou. His best friends and only people he seems to prefer to hang out is Izuku and Iida. And he is literally experiencing one of the most important events in his life during the story. And yknow what? Momo is not part of it. She is just there with others.
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Though, it is always fun to explore different ideas or ships and thats why i was kinda interested in some analysis. But yknow, when you read some posts, you feel 'its reachin'. Thats how i feel about Todo//momo, Kacch//acho and Bakugou/Aizawa posts.
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Like when two characters existing in same scene or wearing similar clothes or just standing side by side, some fans immediately look for making it look deeper than it actually is. (Though, you might say this is the case for every ship but some of them at least makes sense.) This is how i feel when i read comments about todomomo. It feels a lot like kinda crack ship in canon while it treated as it is better than that.
Another biggest example of this is Uraraka vs Bakugou. People like the idea of Bakugou trusting Uraraka so much that they ignore the fact that she is the only person he asked 'are you sure?' before the match, or how he thought it was Izuku's plan or we all know the only reason Bakugou is serious when it comes to matches ebcause he couldnt care less if others person gets hurts. People really think that romance would fix the problem with Bakugou. Especially, of all characters, its Ochaco. It doesnt make sense emotionally intelligence girl like Ochaco who was raised with love to fall in love with abusive guy like Bakugou who calls people with nicknames and constantly being rude to them for no reason, instead of kind boys like Izuku, Iida or Shoutoo respects who her as person since the beginning. Only girls who would date with toxic guys are whether they are naive or most likely they are abused at home. Ochaco isnt either of them. And Bakugou already has someone whom he naturally bond, it is Kirishima. Which is why even though i dont personally ship, i think kiribaku makes sense.
And with Bakugou, i dont know. I feel like fandom is kinda protective of his character. You cant make posts about it without being 'anti'. Like, certain part of the fandom treats them as just people who wants Bakugou to suffer, despite the fact that %90 of the 'anti bakugou' fans has problem with writing. Most posts less about 'hatred for character', more about 'writing criticism'. I mean fandom is very comfortable with cricitising Izuku for every single mistake he does, they cant do that with Bakugou too? Izuku becomes copycat for copying Allmight but when Bakugou does, it is cute. Izuku gets hate for telling Shouto, he is kind for forgiving, even though he clearly didnt mean to say not forgiving is unkind while Bakugou shouts at Fuyumi for no reason and he gets away with narrative and fandom. It is really weird how much narrative (and fandom) overlook Bakugou's abuse towards Izuku and the fact that Bakugou has big plot armor.
Recently, i realized there is similar problem with Aizawa and Endeavour too.
Or Someone's comment about how Bakudeku is simiar to spinnaraki. Yeah, i kidna see the parallels but except yknow, Bakugou abused Deku while Shigaraki never once judged or looked down on Spinner and they actually bond because they both feel empty, not forced connection such as 'you two need to learn from each others'. I would say it looks more like Dabi-Spinner dynamic since Dabi is kinda jerk to Spinner but boy still admires Dabi for his power and all, though at least Dabi isnt really bully to him specifically and Bakudeku dynamic is a lot simişlar to Koutaro-Shigaraki dynamic, Bakugou is literally parallels with Endeavour but its not mentioned enough. So yeah, Bakudeku is another forced relationship and worse, it is toxic.
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Basically, Todomomo ship feels forced, unearned and, mostly empty. Supercifical. This story isnt even really about romance whether Shouto or Momo's character isnt about romance at all but in stories, romances can happen but yknow, if its gonna happen, it should be well written. In their cases, well, its not. I would prefer them as good hero partners than as romantic couples.
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Probably starting ship discourse (again), but I’ll say it anyway. I prefer Deku/Shoto Todoroki over Todoroki/Momo Yaoyorozu any day! Deku/Todoroki better humanize the characters involved and have more leeway for romantic/platonic interpretations. For Todoroki/Yaomomo, I think they’re MORE interesting as platonic friends. Painting the pair in a romantic light kind of falls flat; strips them of their humanity and frames them as another (rich) eye candy couple. 👈😒💅
Yeah, I mean, you came to the right place, so I doubt you'll start any ship discourse here! :')
Platonic todomomo is great, can't get enough of it, but their chemistry in a romantic sense just doesn't... really exist, not to me anyway. They make each other better and they can bond over the similarities between them (same with Iida tbh), but the vibe they give off definitely seems more m|m+w|w besties and that's fine!
Just, personally... I can't watch the way Shoto always looks at/focuses on Izuku, who gives him the softest of smiles, and go "yup, he's totally crushing on Momo".
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dapperenby13 · 1 year
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Some Momo headcannons cause i love her
- she/her
- lesbian
- autistic
- has anxiety
- has a deep hatred for the texture of smoothies
- makes friendship bracelets to calm down
- Tsu is teaching her how to take care of plants
- her weighted blanket is her most prized possession
- her and Shoto are childhood friends
- her and Bakugou had to work on a project together one time and are now best friends (no one knows how that happened)
- some of her favorite stims are hand flapping, and twisting her hair
- really likes big dogs
- feels bad about killing mosquitos
- loves fruit snacks and always has some in her bag
- likes old poetry
- musical special interest
-is really trying to convince Shinsou that coffee is bad for him and that he should try tea instead ( it will never work, just give up)
- hates the feeling of hair on her neck so she always keeps it up
- thought she had romantic feelings for Shoto, turns out, its completely platonic
- Shoto also has to listen to her talk for hours about how much she likes Jirou, but is very oblivious to the fact that Jirou keeps asking her out (Shoto is dying, please help him)
In conclusion I love her in the most platonic way and she’s so cool
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edwardslostalchemy · 1 year
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I'm rediscovering my love for platonic todo/momo. They're such good friends. 😭💖
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jasontoddssuper · 10 months
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Enough about babygirlfication.What are faves of yours that make you feel like 'This is my younger sibling and i will protect them from everything and anybody who says mean things about them can catch these hands and this GLOCK'?For me it's Momo and Eri from Bnha,Miles from Spiderverse and literally all of Clark and Lois' kids(even the 'noncanon' ones)
This is meant as a wholesome thing,pro sh///ippers don't make it weird thanks!!!
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punkeropercyjackson · 3 months
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"We need more m/f ships that aren't heternormative or enforce gender stereotypes!!!"You guys couldn't even handle Todomomo
#NAH CAUSE Y'ALL NIGGAS REALLY THREW THAT WORD AT THEM NONSTOP WITH LITERALLY NO BACKING#point to me at a point in the story-i'll even let you use noncanon stuff-where shouto and momo's genders are brought up to their dynamic#you're gonna be searching forever because that never happened even once.SO MANY scenes of them being good best friends to eachother#and not a single one of them indicated they're in love because he's a boy and she's a girl.they don't give a FUCK about that stop projecting#we're literally told and more importantly SHOWN they're close bc of mutual admiration what sweeties they are to and fun they have together#and that they make make eachother feel understood and NORMAL.'heteronormative' my ass tdmm is the most t4t and autistic4autistic ship ever#lower your voice when you speak about them-especially if you stan hawks' dudebro cop ass and think dabitwice or minajirou are platonic#todomomo my darlings i'm so sorry the bnha fandom treated you so horribly because they couldn't accept that not every m/f ship is cishet#or that not every same gender relathionship is realistically queer instead of stereotyping and f*tishization#todomomo#t4t todomomo#todomomo protection squad#todoroki shouto#momo yaoyorozu#half bangladeshi rei agenda#blasian latina momo#trans todoroki#trans momo yaoyorozu#autistic todoroki#autistic momo yaoyorozu#adhd momo#momo yaoyorozu has ocd#momo yaoyorozu has anxiety#goth punk todoroki shouto#pastel punk momo yaoyorozu#agere flips!todomomo#tea blend crew#bnha geekery#💌#summerposting
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aeon-uriel · 2 years
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Yuuta: The stars look beautiful, don't they?
Maki: Yeah
Yuuta: But you know what else is beautiful?
Maki: Nobara
Yuuta:
Yuuta: I was going to say 'Toge', but I respect your opinion
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tellluzaboutit · 2 years
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This is how I see todobaku friendship
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They third wheeling eachother
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It's so fucking funny and no, I don't take criticism.
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epickiya722 · 2 years
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The idea of TodoMomo being this "perfect, ideal rich" couple who know how to romance each other is amusing because omg... these two would not know someone was flirting with them even if someone hit them with a sign labeled "LOVE".
They're both smart, but things fly over their heads. They take things so literal. You have Yaoyorozu "thinks of a literal box" Momo and Todoroki "if I smile then they'll die" Shoto. Do you really think these two would know how to romance each other? Their relationship would probably still be the same after declaring they're dating. Still call each other by their last names, the most they'll do is hug but like really awkwardly. Before then, it would probably take FOREVER for them to realize they have crushes on each other.
But it works. They're comfortable with how they are. Everyone else would probably be so confused, but they're happy so they don't even notice how people are questioning if they're dating or not.
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darlingimawitch · 1 year
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i love platonic! bakumomo sm pls give me more fics of them being besties
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sparkles-and-trash · 2 years
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It’s not that kam*jirou is a BAD ship, it’s just insane to me that people ship more than shinkami and momojirou???
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susagnon · 2 months
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Class 1-A’s most popular guy
Horikoshi having Ashido and Hagakure commenting on Todoroki’s looks might mean that Todoroki is Class-1A’s resident pretty boy (he is pretty, I’m not disputing that).
Horikoshi having Camie and grown women (…) like Pixie Bob and Mount Lady flirting with Todoroki might mean that he’s desirable to a wide array of women.
Horikoshi having Yaoyorozu and Todoroki character shill each other in the most obnoxious manner, could be interpreted as Yaoyorozu having the hots for Todoroki.
[Tangent rant: Those unconvincing “let-me-tell-you-why-they-are-awesome” scenes, instead ducking DEMONSTRATE how these characters are awesome, like good story writing would, are the reason why I got turned off from Todomomo. How a perfectly cute ship got ruined for me, was through scenes in which Horikoshi tried to shove it down the audience’s throat, why these two are sooo much more capable or intelligent than other students - in the most blatant and laziest manner. - Tangent rant end.]
But Hagakure’s weird comment about his room aside, one of the girls’ most favourite male classmates is...
Kirishima.
Asui appreciates him for his kindness and empathy, Yaoyorozu appreciates him for yelling at Mineta for perving on her, and Jirou appreciates him for his open admiration of her talents, even though she’s feeling a bit embarrassed about them. And Ashido and him have their special bond anyway…
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Kirishima’s basically a human German Shepherd - what’s not to love about him?
The girls’ other most favourite male classmate?
It’s Shouji.
Chill but simultaneously, very considerate Shouji.
You know how you're often compared to that cousin? After the provisional license exam, every single time any of the class 1-A boys got on Jirou’s nerves, they got to hear from her how comforting he was to Asui, how gentlemanly he behaved towards Yaoyorozu, and how calming his presence was to them, when they were stressed out… in contrast to whatever dumb thing the guy in question just pulled.
It may sound like a cliché, but Shouji's the girls' gentle giant. He's their sweet, little-big brother and reliable protector (fy Mineta, for trying to grope your classmates during Tokoyami’s story time). None of the girls have ever thought about Shouji as scary or hideous before.
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I’m not saying that the girls want to climb them like a tree. But out of all of their male classmates, Kirishima and Shouji are the most beloved. And all of the girls have had - at least platonically - crushed on one (or even both) of them, once.
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nerdyneko6373 · 4 months
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Since you asked me about Midoriya for the character ask thing, I shall ask from you, Shoto Todoroki!! >:D
MY FAV!!! MY GUY!!! 🤍❤️
Favorite thing: How genuine he is. He's very straightforward about what he thinks and wants, which leads to a lot of comedic or heartfelt moments! He's trying his best 🥺❤️
Least favorite thing: NONE >:3
Favorite line: I have to choose?! I love the secret love child line but it's already overused lol, so here's a different fav of mine:
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And then he goes on to offer Izuku his noodles and wasabi and stuff to make him feel better. My HEART 😭❤️ (this scene makes me tear up every time)
brOTP (fav platonic relationship): hmmm it was hard to choose between TodoDeku and TodoBaku, but I think I'm going to have to go with TodoDeku. Their friendship is just so very precious!!
OTP (fav ship): TodoMomo!! (note: this is my OTP for Todoroki, but not for Momo. My OTP for Momo is BakuMomo, but that's a story for another post 😅) They work so well together, and I think they balance each other out. Momo is insecure sometimes, but Shouto brings out the best in her, and together they're a formidable team.
nOTP (ship that I cannot stand): I don't really have a Shouto ship that I am strongly against, actually (note: obviously, I hate all pro-ships with Shouto.)
Random headcanon: After spending so much time with Izuku and seeing his Hero Analysis books, Shouto ends up keeping his own book with all his conspiracy theories. There are a LOT of secret love children from pro heroes out there, and he's gonna find them all!
Song I associate with him: Up in Flames by Coldplay. The lyrics fit how he feels about his family so well...
Fav picture of him: Here's two because I can't choose between them!
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sodopopmachine · 4 months
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I've seen that you're a person who doesn't ship tdmm and i really want to know why don't you ship it
Oh man, uhh, cringe alert (cringe on my end). So, I was not fond of Todomomo in the past. And I was very... vocal about that. However, as much as I didn't like it, the hate towards the ship, especially towards Momo, made me uncomfortable. People were being racist, sexist and downright just very vain about their opinions. It made me sick and made me re-evaluate my opinion. Regardless of my opinion on the ship and characters, I do not condone or support the blind rage and hate that characters receive.
But to answer the question, even though I don't strongly dislike Todomomo anymore, I still don't really ship it, BUT I have a newfound respect for the ship and those that support it. But the reasons why I don't ship it are... for one, I believe shipping two characters that happen to be a boy and girl based on one interaction and little to no chemistry is very heteronormative. I mainly see Todoroki and Momo as colleagues/friends at best. They have a great dynamic and make a great team together, but I don't view this romantically, just moreso, platonically and professionally.
For two, Momo and Todoroki don't impact each other's lives as greatly as other duos and ships. Todoroki respects Momo enough to work with her and is aware of her talents and insecurities, but he doesn't do much to comfort or console her. He also doesn't really come to her aid as often as he could have, like when they were in disguises in Season 3 and several people were making sexual advances towards her. Todoroki ignored this and kept walking, while the rest of the group tried defending her. Fans will argue that "Todoroki was just jealous", but that makes no sense to me. As for Momo, she doesn't seem to do much for him as a character, and he did help her with her insecurity (mainly to pass the exam) but that's about it. So, while they make a great team, they don't do much together above working together.
For three, I just ship Todoroki and Momo with different characters, and even though I'm a multi-shipper, I'm allowed to not ship everything. I ship Todoroki with Deku, Iida & Sero. I ship Momo with Iida, Yosetsu & Jirou. They seem to have bigger connections/chemistry with other characters than each other, in my opinion. However, I have matured and respect Todomomo as the pair make a good team, and the community for Todomomo, for the most part, is sweet.
(Also I no longer post anything BNHA-related in this vlog.)
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jasontoddssuper · 7 months
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Momo Yaoyorozu is a character of all time.She's a woc.She's a teenage superheroine who goes to a school to train to be a professional one.She's from a rich and well-known family but instead of being spoiled,her parents adultified and dehumanized her by raising her to be a perfect doll instead of their child.She's bi and trans.She's got at least 4 neurodivergent disorders and now most definitely ptsd too.She loves tea and happy stims and infodumps over it.She blushes over everything.She hates Bakugou.She's a kid genius who's kind and supportive to kids who do bad in school.Her superpower is to create literally any non-living thing from her body just by thinking of what they're made of and she can do it no problem because she studied so hard ever since she was 4 to memorize their components.She's a soft uwu pastel girl.2/3 of her best friends are a butch punk girl who's violently protective over her and a pink alien blasian girl who breakdances to break up fights.Her soulmate is a Zuko kinnie with candy cane hair who was down bad for the second he saw how smart and strong she is and only got downer and badder when they started becoming best friends and the reason they fell in love was that they gave eachother the genuine and honest support and trust they'd deserved growing up and can actually act their age with eachother.Her codename is just the word 'Creative' with the last two letters taken out.She's my fucking everything and i would gladly die infinite deaths for her
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punkeropercyjackson · 13 days
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Todomomo is literally the closest you can get to a autistic4autistic t4t ship without it being canon or intentional.Shouto's dad is an abusive hypermasculine prick who's implied to be misogynistic(teaching Touya his views on women as a kid,that they're 'useless' based off their genders)and Shouto wants to grow up to be the man he never could and refused to be and dosen't care about gender at all,much less conforming to it's roles and gets called a pretty boy a lot and is way closer to his mom and sister than he is to either of his brothers,Momo is the daughter of a rich couple who adultified her to the max in order to make her the ultimate 'proper prim lady' with little regard to her emotions and mental well-being and only care about her when she lives up to their impossible expectations and she had to get that 'I have to be perfect or else i'm WORTHLESS and NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR ANYTHING' mentality from somewhere and it's not like she wasn't isolated from her peers by not being allowed to be a normal kid in any way(her mom didn't even let her go festivals and she had to sneak off on her first one with a fear of her finding out in the back of her head the whole time!That is NOT normal behavior for your child to exhibit,Doña Yaoyorozu!!!)and she presents femininily in a way that's viewed as artificial by assholes but it's just genuinely who she's made herself to be!Shouto explicitly inhereted his mother's build and hates that he keeps looking like his dad as he gets older and Momo's said to look older than her girl classmates even disregard her body type and towers over most teen guys!!!
Shouto has a neutral expression that looks purely deadpan and just a bit angry/annoyed and he's awful at socializing and he's insanely good at flirting with Momo but IT'S NEVER ON PURPOSE and Momo has a resting smiling face as her default look and she gets scandalized at regular teen behavior and she's an expert at navigating social situations with practiced politeness and they both take things literally and don't understand the dumb kind of norms and have a special fondness for a particular food because it gives them comfort(cold soba + tea types)BUT ALSO!!!!They have matching additional food motifs(bubble tea specifically + strawberry based things)and cordinated outfits with their own aesthetics(their sweaters,,,,,,that got turned into a running thing in the games and i believe official art too)and are canon cat people(*insert that 'All cats have autism' pic here*)and Momo is a bookworm while Shouto is a comics nerd and Momo got into alt music thanks to Jirou and has a love for desserts and Shouto writes platonic love letters to Rei and perfers the spicier/savoury kinds of japanese food AND THEN THEIR ACTUAL RELATHIONSHIP
Shouto voted for Momo because he thinks she's the best they're is but didn't verbally communicate it to her because it never occured to him he'd need to and Momo admires Shouto just as much and said it outloud to his face from the start and Aizawa being the only that helps them clear up the mix up?????His old autistic man ass that's married to audhd icon Mic?So Shouto goes into detail to Momo's face too about how cool he thinks she is and that's when they officially becomes friends and he never shuts up about her to anyone from then on,this nigga's new special interest is his best girl friend he's got a crush on,and he did notice she was sad when no one else did in an earlier part but had no clue what to do or say to cheer her up so they spend time together now that they're really buds and they both know just what to say to eachother by the War Arc and Momo finds Shouto being a fucking doofus with geeky ass tendencies and moments she could make a youtube compilation out of it if she was lil meaner to be so attractive she says he's perfect for Prince Charming as a role in a play Class 1-A did in one of the novel's.Izuku broke Shouto out of his ice,Jirou and Mina broke Momo out of her doll shell and now neither of them need to mask but what brought them together was being next to eachother at their worsts and at their bests and only thinking the latter no matter what or who said otherwise.Including themselves
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