#our flag means death critical

[something-about-sunflowers]

They're pirates.

So it makes sense, really.

People die in pirate shows. Sun poisoning, heatstroke.

People die in pirate shows. Suffocation.

People die in pirate shows. Stabbings.

People die in pirate shows. Hangings.

People die in pirate shows. More stabbings.

People die in pirate shows. Infections.

People die in pirate shows. Amputations.

People die in pirate shows. More stabbings.

People die in pirate shows. Scurvy.

People die in pirate shows. Broken ribs, spine.

People die in pirate shows. Drowning.

People die in pirate shows. More amputations.

People die in pirate shows. Traumatic brain injuries.

People die in pirate shows. Sun poisoning, heatstroke, starvation.

People die in pirate shows. Gunshots.

People die in pirate shows. More amputations.

People die in pirate shows. Even more amputations.

People die in pirate shows. More gunshots.

People die in pirate shows. More gunshots.

People die in pirate shows. More traumatic brain injuries.

People die in pirate shows. Even more stabbings.

People die in pirate shows. Poisoning.

People die in pirate shows. Allergic reaction.

People die in pirate shows. Even more traumatic brain injuries.

People die in pirate shows. Explosions.

People die in pirate shows. More poisoning.

So it makes sense that Izzy died. Because people die in pirate shows. And this is a show about pirates. Where people die.

#the dork is being a dork #izzy hands #deserved fucking BETTER #ofmd #ofmd s2 #ofmd critical #ofmd s2 critical #our flag means death #our flag means death s2 #our flag means death critical #our flag means death s2 critical #david jenkins critical #to be entirely honest #tw suicide #tw blood #tw gore #it's just funny how the cartoon logic worked until it didn't is all #it even worked for him EARLIER IN THE SEASON #disclaimer that obviously not all of these things posed a lethal threat to the characters but in REALITY they very much could have

[little-bloodied-angel]

This morning I woke up and my right leg was screaming. The pain was so intense and brutal it was what woke me; I had to sink my teeth into my pillow and scream, too. Every cell from hip to knee is (yes, still) burning, liquid acid going through my veins; and the calf is strained and cramped and protesting the extra work as hard as it can.

I still had to use the bathroom; when I tried to stand up it buckled, like a lightning bolt went through it, and I went to the floor. Even just rotating in bed to get out was agonizing on my hip. My foot was numb, full of pins and needles for lack of proper circulation.

I limped there, dragging my leg behind, supporting my weight on the wall and gritting my teeth. The process of sitting down and standing up almost made me black out.

Over the sink, I looked at myself in the mirror and willed myself not to cry. When I came back into my room I caught sight of my medications on my bedside table, the myriad of pills I'll be taking for as long as I live. The Tramadol on top of them was mocking me, and I did cry then.

I remember everything my body could do. I remember flying. I remember the fall, too, the agonized animal screams that seemed to come from outside my body, the brutal audible SNAP of muscle and tendon, the bone against the hardwood, the hushed whisper-shouts of "get help -she can't move -she can't walk -god, her leg!"

The doctor's office and his placid smile as he told me I was "lucky" because my ACL didn't require surgery at the same time he delivered my death sentence, or what may as well been.

"A career in ballet is no longer an option for you".

I know he didn't understand how people who dance with the goals I did live and die for that dancing. He thought I was young and I'd find something else to do. I was young and a part of me died in that accident and I had to bury it.

I remember a different doctor, a different office, her worried face scanning my psychiatric history like she thought I'd kill myself right in front of her because of the diagnosis as she told me what I already knew.

"You have fibromyalgia. I'll prescribe medication to manage it, you have to be careful with it. But..."

But it'll never get better. You'll always hurt. It'll get worse. I already knew that. I just wanted someone to sign on it, because it turns out that when doctors perceive you as female, complaints of chronic pain tend to fall by the wayside, particularly if you have a history of mental illness. She took me seriously. She warned me about my leg, about what a flareup would do somewhere I'm already hurting all the time, and I kept myself from barking at her I fucking know, that's part of what it's been like for almost a decade because at least she believed me.

I mourned my body again, all the same.

I lay in bed gripping my thigh, trying to will the spasms down, trying to decide between yelling and sobbing, trying to figure out why: had I slept on it wrong? Was it the weather? It had hurt after walking too much on Monday, but not as much as I expected; a delayed reaction? It didn't matter, in the end; it wasn't going to take the pain away.

I thought of Izzy, as I tore my lips apart with my teeth to feel something that wasn't my damn leg. I thought of how real he felt, the tears and the screaming, the gritted teeth, the suicidal loss of identity. The loneliness. I thought of his stubbornness, his progress. How much both of those realities meant. How they thrashed it all, in one moment, and all but told us, the ones that feel like him, "when the desire to die comes back just do it. You've outlived what you were, so who you are has *had enough*", and my mouth tasted like blood for more than one reason.

He meant so much. He could have meant so much more. And we have to wipe the spit of this insult from our faces and carry on and accept it was part of a happy ending.

He might've forgiven it all; he was a character and you made him. I don't. I won't. I'm still here, with my pain and anger, and I refuse to die so the people who want me gone can live in peace. And I refuse to be quiet and accept that for a happy ending I should fade away.

If you can't understand this anger, at least don't insult me and others like me by telling us there's no reason for it.

I'm hazy with pain and aware that I'm rambling. But whatever I don't bleed in ink will poison me.

#me #personal #izzy hands #abuse tw #israel hands #israel basilica hands #negative #swearing #disability #actually disabled #chronic pain #blood mention #ofmd critical #ableism #our flag means death critical #suicidal ideation #suicide mention #tw suicide

[sky-fire-forever]

There's something about season two that I've wanted to talk about, but I've been struggling to find a way to word. But I'm just going for it

In season two of Our Flag Means Death, they introduce six new female characters (Zheng, Archie, Mary Reed, Anne Bonney, Auntie, and Hellcat Mary). I think this is absolutely fantastic since season one had very few female characters (the only notable ones that come to mind are Mary Bonnet, Jim's nana, and Spanish Jackie). So I'm really, really glad new characters are being introduced! That's great! And I actually adore all the new female characters we get!

It's just very odd to me that out of six new characters, four of their main focuses are about being in a romantic relationship and one of the remaining two is mainly a mother figure.

I dunno! I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing, it's just odd and it's something I picked up on. Anne and Mary are both extremely sexual (not inherently a bad thing) and are meant to kinda just parallel Stede and Ed and then never appear again. Zheng is a ruthless pirate queen (who I absolutely adore, by the way) but her motivation mostly surrounds her crush on Oluwande. I think there's genuine potential in a character who is tough and manipulative to gain an advantage where she needs to, but finds herself falling in love with a softie, but that's most of what we get with Zheng and we don't actually SEE her enough to understand her as a character beyond that and her auntie issues. Archie is a fantastic character, but we really only see her interact with Jim and Oluwande.

I don't think it's bad to give female characters romance arcs! I actually love pretty much all of the romantic relationships they end up in. It's just... odd to me that that's most of what we get. I dunno, I was mostly wondering if anyone else noticed that too

#ofmd #our flag means death #ofmd critical #our flag means death critical #zheng yi sao #archie ofmd #ofmd archie #anne bonny #mary reed #ofmd auntie #auntie ofmd #queue-no steel

[ebenelephant]

so I finally plucked up the courage to rewatch our flag means death season 2, now that I've had some time to sort out my feelings. I went into it with an open mind, hoping that some of my initial dislike of it was just the fact that it was shocking – and I definitely do think I preferred it more this time, but I still have some issues:

all mention of polyamory in any form is erased: no mention of Lucius and Pete's open relationship; no Zheng×Olu×Jim×Archie polycule (which arguably would have made sense); and by the end of it Spanish Jackie only has one husband

speaking of Zheng, it just doesn't really sit right with me that her entire fleet was blown up. she's the pirate queen. I don't know, it just felt weird.

likewise, that Jackie lost literally everything except the Swede. I know we needed a low-point, but wouldn't it have been just so Jackie to see her at the end opening shop for a couple of bedraggled pirates in the only surviving building or some shit?

Edward should have apologised. To Izzy, properly, and to everyone else, at all. I love him, and I empathise with him, and I understand that this is the show where people forgive; but Edward did terrible things and never took accountability, even when people asked him to.

on that note, I really felt like the crew disregarded Lucius's trauma a bit? they can't possibly see inside his head, I know, but it felt like they wanted him to just be the old Lucius again sometimes

I know that his selfishness is Stede's big flaw, but I wish it was addressed more here, when he is arguably being far more self-centered than last season

their relationship was rushed. blame the fact that the episodes were cut if you like, but if that's so then they should have done on a tentative 'things will get better' and ended on a hopeful note, rather than trying to rush the entire relationship and leave them in their little shack when this series proved time and time again that they are not ready for this yet and need a bit of space to discover who they are apart

I just really fucking hate the inn. sorry.

and Izzy. sigh. he just didn't need to die. that wasn't necessary. that wasn't what this show was meant to be about. and to kill him after he finally accepted himself for his queerness and for his newfound disability, and when he attempted suicide earlier in the series. "I want to go" then what the fuck was the point of his arc?

#our flag means death #ofmd #ofmd s2 #ofmd season 2 #ofmd s2 critical #ofmd critical #our flag means death critical #mine

[ratplease]

I hate the fact that like. Just because a piece of queer media exists, and is marketed as queer, gay people feel like they HAVE to watch it. And they’ll straight up ignore story/plot elements/writing/ characters, JUST because its queer. Like maybe that might’ve been the mindset 10 years ago but at this point queer people have options, which is amazing. Especially for a show that uses the same characters and ideas as another, better written, well made, women-having, practical prop-and-set using show, and the first show butchers the characters completely while the other, better made, show was giving us queer rep in 2014.

#our flag means death critical #i hate that stupid pirate show so fucking bad im not even kidding #the other show is black sails btw :3 #ofmd #our flag means death

[chaosandstardust]

i’m watching our flag means death and maybe this will get me hate but I do not care: 

i’m so done with shows that have 1 woman vs dozens of men and they’re praised for “great representation”. you can’t argue about historical accuracy, because nothing about this is historically accurate. so far, there’s no disease, the ocean is the size of a freaking lake, and blood looks like red kool-aid; very few of the actual hardships that would’ve come along with actual piracy, and I doubt that Stede’s story in the show will end the way it did for the real life Stede Bonnet. i’m so tired of shows like this becoming so goddamned popular and being praised for their representation and then having either no women or their one female character has the same boring “living through the patriarchy” storyline. Like higher expectations, please. 

You cannot argue that a show has brilliant representation when it’s not including 1/2 of the population. i’m so tired. 

#i'm only on episode 2 so keep that in mind #but right from the fucking beginning i groaned when i saw the whole cast #because i've seen this before #feminism #our flag means death #ofmd #our flag means death critical #fandom critical #stede bonnet #blackbeard

[ourflagmeansgayrights]

honestly tho. the balls of izzy to suggest talking it through as if he didnt literally threaten to kill ed the last time ed openly shared his feelings

#ofmd #our flag means death #ofmd s2 spoilers #ofmd season 2 #ofmd s2 #izzy hands #dizzy izzy #israel hands #izzy critical #s2e01 #s1e10 #txt #mine #og

[puns-and-musicals]

I’m starting to wonder if straight people know what a “buddy comedy” is 🤔

#Good Omens #OFMD #Good Omens S2 #Good Omens Season 2 #Our Flag Means Death #Ineffable Husbands #Blackbonnet #Aziracrow #Gentlebeard #Honestly though aren’t critics supposed to be able to read into this kind of thing? Pathetic

[biggest-gaudiest-patronuses]

taika waititi really said "Blackbeard but make him a dilf in leather pants" and we all agreed unanimously and without hesitation

#ofmd #our flag means death #my only suggestion is the pants could have been tighter but who am i to criticize a MASTERPIECE

[bemusedlybespectacled]

just the fact that this is a show where people get stabbed in the gut multiple times with no long-term health problems and not even real pain, someone gets tossed overboard in the middle of the night and manages to get onto another ship without drowning, an entire island of people gets found and rescued by a dude in a rowboat who doesn’t even know they’ve been marooned, someone lives despite being in a coma and beaten with a cannonball, and A GUY TURNS INTO A FUCKING SEAGULL but oh no THIS time this guy is dead after getting shot even when he didn’t die from blood loss or infection or a fucking gun to his head earlier like ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

#ofmd meta #personal #izzy hands #our flag means death #ofmd spoilers #ofmd s2 #ofmd s2 finale complaining #ofmd critical

[something-about-sunflowers]

I mean what did you expect? It's a queer show on a streaming network, queer shows on streaming networks die all the time!

#the dork is being a dork #ofmd #our flag means death #ofmd critical #our flag means death critical #or really more like #ofmd fandom critical #our flag means death fandom critical #what's that? this is a rude and unsympathetic thing to say to people who are hurt by a loss of something they care about? #strange #last *I* can recall this was a perfectly fine sentiment #or is it different when the thing being cared about is #izzy hands #? #if you're mourning i feel for you. don't let the show's death be the death of your enjoyment #fandom doesn't have to stop because canon does #but if you are or were one of the dicks mocking izzy fans after the finale you can eat shit #the izcourse #(almost forgot that last tag)

[sixstepsaway]

so here's the thing

i've seen a bunch of people say on twitter and stuff how... ed's behavior is very abusive and his anger is dangerous and he isn't romantic lead material because of it

and i get where they're coming from

but to me the main issue isn't putting ed in the position of a romantic lead, but not crafting the narrative around his characterization so that it allows for a spicy romantic pirates-in-love narrative instead of...whatever this is.

i'm going to try and explain this. idk if i'll do well but i'll try

the way she show presents stede is as an innocent baby who isn't really equipped for pirate life. he goes into a fugue/disassociative state whenever there's any real violence, apparently, and needs protecting by other characters when things get too rough - for example when ed is telling ned lowe not to take the poker to stede.

that's fine! it's honestly adorable to see a masc character being so soft around the edges and being protected by other characters this way.

(i'm not going to touch on stede's... eh... not great characterization this season rn)

then there's izzy, who is shown as a bit violent, a bit rough around the edges. he's more likely to draw a sword or throw a punch or hit someone with a chair or take a punch like a champ. violence is just part of life for him and that's okay, it just Is, from small things like smacking stede on the ass to bigger things like being wall slammed, it's not all that big or bad for violence to happen around and with him, he tends to give as good as he gets (there's some nuance here but i'm talking the macro themes not the micro of what izzy does vs is done to him)

and finally there's ed

ed is presented as violent (stabbing knives at guys, telling fang to use the snail fork etc) and used to a life of violence, and then in season 2 he's presented as really violent, his anger coming out in dangerous and terrifying ways

and frankly, i'd be super into it if he and izzy were the main ship and that twisted dynamic from the first two episodes of s2 was explored and fleshed out into something deeper

friends to enemies to lovers who fight and fuck. angry pirates who lay hands on each other, who break the whole ship with each other in the heat of passion.

except instead, s2 gives us... abuse. it gives us izzy cringing and lowering his head and trying to protect the kids crew from ed's angry outbursts.

so when stede comes back and he's still soft around the edges and ed headbutts him and it's deliberate, it's... not a great look, and the vibes are a bit skewed

if stede fought back, if when ed struck out at him he struck back, if they fought rather than it being one-sided, if it was friends to enemies to lovers and not presented as healthy, but maybe they can work their way there, who knows, maybe even more like anne bonnie and mary read because hey, they were doing something very similar?

except they were both into it. they were both enjoying the fighting and the fucking and the burning down the house.

stede's not enjoying it.

i cannot describe how much i hate this sequence just because of the way stede flinches

anne and mary don't!! mary jumps at the unexpected bang but she doesnt flinch, she doesn't cover her face like she thinks the vase will be coming for her not the wall and anne? looks so into it

and the thing is that in real life, no, you don't want to date someone who throws shit around, or headbutts you

but in fiction when it's two fucked up people doing this shit together like anne and mary?

that can be fun.

but instead what we've been given is stede flinching and apologizing to ed and then all of ed's...what, semi-redemption???? is done away from the other collection of people he abused, and then he spends some time on a fishing boat wearing a dog collar and everything is fine because he's good now and won't be doing anything bad ever again

and it's just... poor writing. the vibes are rancid.

i spent a really big chunk of time between s1 and s2 defending ed. i kept saying how what he did to izzy by making him eat his toe wasn't abuse, it was a one-off and abuse isn't a one-off thing it's a pattern, and then s2 made it a pattern.

explicitly. explicitly a pattern.

not just one toe but three.

jim saying "you're in an unhealthy relationship with blackbeard"

and all ed offered izzy was a "sorry about your leg" which might've been fine if izzy survived and they could work on this more, but instead that's all the apology and closure izzy will ever get

ed threw a chair and a vase and made stede flinch in fear and stede was right to do that. what part of any of this implies this will never happen again? that stede won't press the wrong button at some point and be on the receiving end? none of it

and if we'd been presented with a s2 stede bonnet who could handle himself and stand up for himself and fight back, then maybe i could imagine that turning into a weird sexy fucked up anne/mary like thing and maybe that could be why they put that episode in, but instead it feels like that episode was going, "look, see, ed's violence is fine because these two are fine with it with each other"

but stede isn't

ed and izzy or ed and stede in an unhealthy battle of a relationship could be such a fun, interesting and downright sexy thing to watch unfold on tv, and could honestly end somewhere far more down the chill end of the spectrum, but that's not what we've been given here

i cannot argue that ed isn't an abuser anymore, and not just of izzy but of the whole crew. he terrified frenchie.

it's not good writing to try and lean into the idea that ed and the pirates are violent and live a life of violence, so it's okay that ed's been violent, while simultaneously presenting his violence as traumatic and abusive, and then less than three episodes later saying oh it's fine now, he's just a little meow meow who can do no wrong, see?

especially considering they had him murdering people at the end of the season. and sure, you can say the english are just cannon fodder and they dont 'count', but they did before. ed explicitly did not kill before, and that included the english, or the spanish, or anyone else. so either they count or they don't, but flipping him on a dime makes no sense.

ALSO

having ed be the son of an abusive man who threw plates at his mother and made her cringe and then having ed kill his father to protect his mother and then a season later having ed become the kind of man who throws chairs and vases and makes his love interest cringe is, again, not bloody optimal

i want to say again i dont CARE about tv always presenting healthy relationships or tv always giving us aspirational goals. i want messy fucked up dynamics and terrible people making terrible choices, and still, to this day, i fucking love ed teach. i would honestly love to have seen them continue with ed's darkness and bring stede into it and see where they went with that, to have stede kill ned lowe and not just bury his feelings in ed but get off on it, enjoy the violence, and see where that led, but no

and so instead all we end up with is a protagonist who is being set up for a lifetime of abuse from an intimate partner, and a romantic lead who abuses his love interests (and yes. izzy is a love interest, he is set up like one and positioned like one and treated like one), frightens his love interests with his violence, is erratic and most of all inconsistently written. he was so sorry about scaring fang as though he hadn't been deliberately terrifying the whole crew for fuck knows how long? what?!

the whole fandom has spent so long saying, "no no, i know stede bonnet irl was a slave owner, but ofmd is using the names and not any real piracy, it's more disney piracy, you know? so that kind of stuff doesnt exist!" and then they flipped around and went "blackbeard is blackbeard and so he is evil and does all these horrible things" and i dont know how to rationalize the two sides of that because it feels so out of place

i'm getting rambly, this isnt a particularly well constructed thought process, i just feel like we were robbed both of a toxic, violent relationship that could be fun to see explored on tv and a soft and sweet love story between two middle aged men exploring their first loves in one fell swoop and there's no way for s3 to bring either of those things back because they got utterly torpedoed by making ed a horrible person

ugh

#ofmd critical #i hate that i'm using this tag now :c #edward teach #ed teach #ofmd s2 #ofmd season 2 #our flag means death #ofmd spoilers #ofmd meta #i guess #izzy hands #stede bonnet

[sky-fire-forever]

So. A lot of people think those of us who dislike Izzy's death just hate character deaths or tragedy or whatever. I am here to say that that is ABSOLUTELY not the case. Not for me

I fucking love tragedy. I am a known tragedy enjoyer. I love it when my favorite characters die and I get to be sad about it. I have loved tragedy since I was a child. A Series of Unfortunate Events was one of my all time favorite book series. I love it when important characters die and the story makes you sad about it!

I am going to use a comparison here that I haven't seen anyone else use

So, for a long time, my favorite television show ever was BBC's Merlin. It's a silly comedy with dramatic elements, but it is first and foremost a comedy. Just like Our Flag Means Death. It's ridiculously goofy and silly and 99% of the time, the characters are just joking around and things that would kill people in real life are brushed off as jokes. It's fun!

And spoiler alert for a show that ended like a decade ago:

Characters die in Merlin! Despite it being a comedy at its core, really important characters die. Characters we like die and so do villains, be them sympathetic or otherwise. A lot of characters we grow to know and love die and they die tragically.

But I fucking LOVE Merlin and it's still one of my favorite shows ever. Because whenever a character dies in Merlin, their death is FELT. They get deaths worthy of their characters. You feel the loss and the show takes time to stop being a comedy for a moment to let the audience and the characters mourn.

We see Merlin cry over Lancelot, burdened by the grief of knowing he sacrificed himself for him. We see Gwen grieve the deaths of both her father and her brother. We even get to watch people grieve over Uther, a villain who has gotten in the way of so much, because the narrative acknowledges he was a person who people loved despite his cruel actions.

All of this in a show where the main characters call each other "clotpole" and where Arthur doesn't notice levitating keys right above his head! It's a comedy! A silly, silly show. But death still MATTERS when it happens and I actually adore the character deaths in this show! Even when it's my favorite characters!

Izzy doesn't get the respect the characters in Merlin did when he dies. It's glossed over, rushed through. Even at his funeral, no one seems genuinely sad. There is no time to slow down and watch anyone actually process his death because we have to hurry on to Pete and Lucius getting married.

I do think the show being cut is to blame for this. With more time, we might have had more room to breathe, to grieve. We could have time to process and to let the characters process

But we don't get that and it's a shame! It's a shame that Izzy's death feels so pointless and undeserving and meaningless! It's a shame we get no time to process his death! It's a shame the characters barely react to his death outside of the scene in which he dies! It's genuinely such a shame that Izzy's death leaves me feeling hollow instead of sad. If I felt sad, I'd like Izzy's death a lot more. But I'm not sad. I'm just so disappointed that that's how it played out

I wish I could feel sad over Izzy's death because I genuinely enjoy feeling sad over characters. But I'm not.

#izzy hands #our flag means death #ofmd #ofmd critical #our flag means death critical #ofmd s2

[bougiebutchbinch]

"But Lucius is physically disabled and he survived, so it's fine to kill Izzy -"

As most of you know, I am physically disabled. Have to use a lot of very visible mobility aids, get stared at in the street, have kids asking uncomfortable questions, etc.

If you are also physically disabled and cannot see that there is a WORLD of difference between Lucius losing his finger and Izzy having a hugely traumatic, majorly life-changing disability thrust upon him, becoming suicidal, using alcohol to cope, crawling along the floor, hating himself and feeling useless and worthless, thinking he's a burden to the people he cared about because of his physical inability to protect them...

Then getting built up again by that same crew, given a beautiful prosthetic that they made for him, accepted and loved, and learning to accept and love himself specifically as a queer disabled man....

THEN SAYING EXPLICITLY THAT HE WANTS TO DIE, AFTER ALL OF THAT BEAUTIFUL GROWTH

If you cannot see how that might be JUST A LITTLE upsetting to other disabled cripplepunk folks....

I honestly do not know what to say to you.

His arc was about self-acceptance and self-love as a disabled queer man. To have him declare that he wanted to die after coming to terms with his disability and queerness is, in fact, going to upset a lot of disabled queer people.

If you are not physically disabled, feel free to reblog but don't say a word unless it's in support.

[Edited to remove the parts about Ed being canonically disabled, as someone kindly pointed out to me that they were incorrect. I hadn't realised that his knee brace was just fanon! The creators shouldn't get credit for creating a 'disabled' main character if the disability is only really acknowledged by fans.]

#izzy hands #ofmd #our flag means death #ed teach #blackbeard #lucius spriggs #the izcourse #ofmd critical #this attitude is pissing me off #israel hands #there is a world of difference between different sorts of disabled rep. izzy's was a very specific self-love and acceptance story. #to go from wanting to die after a hugely traumatic disabling life event... to....... wanting to die after finding acceptance and happiness #that is gonna be upsetting to disabled people. can you see why? :/ #ofmd spoilers #ofmd s2 spoilers

[itswhatyougive]

#has this been done already #ofmd s2 spoilers #ofmd meta #ofmd season 2 spoilers #ofmd season 2 #ofmd spoilers #our flag means death spoilers #fang ofmd #ofmd fang #izzy hands #ofmd shipposting #ofmd shitpost #our flag memes death #ofmd memes #ofmd meme #justice for izzy #ofmd critical #ofmd s2 finale #our flag means death #ofmd #crew of the revenge #the crew of the revenge #the revenge crew #edward teach #ed ofmd #blackbeard ofmd

[chaosandstardust]

re our flag; it's totally fair to not want to watch shows with very few women in them! in this case though it's kind of like taking issue with the lack of women in queer as folk (or idk, gay men in the l word), since it's very much a show about masculinity and relationships/love between men (romantic & platonic). nothing wrong with not being interested in that, but i don't think it's inherently wrong for the writers to choose that as a focus. the women that do show up are pretty well written imo

I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH MEN WANTING TO WRITE ABOUT MEN. That makes sense. It's not "wrong" either. Even so, if you're writing a show about masculinity or feminity, you need to bring in the other side of the coin???? If you want to break down how men relate to each other, you also need to bring the women into it because they get impacted just as much if not more than men. My issue with shows that write about gender roles and breaking traditional gender boundaries is that almost always the ones written about masculinity don't include femininity. It actually detracts from the messaging about it if you don't.

Even so, my original post about about how all these people were screaming about how great the representation is when it's not. Again, it excludes 1/2 of the population from their main cast. The one female character is apparently non-binary (which is awesome). And I have yet to see a single show with an all female cast that gets this much traction, especially online.

The shows you mentioned aren't even comparable! They're both based in the modern day and there isn't as much of a suspension of disbelief. I can totally believe that lesbians would just want to hang out with other lesbians. OFMD is about a group of pirates in a alternate universe where Blackbeard is a good guy. It's basically a workplace comedy. It seems to not care about historical accuracy with the exception of the treatment of women in a show about men, who have way more power than women did, which is a common theme among shows like this. I'm noting a pattern among shows that take place in the past yet take on a satirical or comedic tone. That's all.

The writers can do what they like. But they have legit no valid reason to not include women in this show. It's not "wrong" of them to write about men. It just directly impacts the quality of the show. 🤷🏼‍♀️

#our flag means death critical #our flag means death #ofmd