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I'll be honest I did NOT think you were talking about writing when you said beta and I was very concerned
ANON I AM SCREAMING THANK YOU FOR MAKING MY ENTIRE NIGHT
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hiii the YoutubeWalkout post you reblogged is from 2019 and is no longer relevant btw!
gjajkdka oh good to know! thanks!
edit: i deleted it. ALSO i glanced at the timestamp on the tweet lmao 🤦🏻‍♀️
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Disney lesbian ships Lizzie/Miranda Tawni/Sonny Maya/Riley Maddie/Willow Shelby/Cyd Olive/Chyna Stella/Macy Teddy/Ivy Emma/Lou Maddie and Bailey/London Lindy/Jasmine Marisa/Kc
some of these i haven’t watched in years or didn’t/don’t watch at all but uh, bc i was never one to half-ass shenanigans, i’ll be rating the ships out of 10 (10 being the most positive). and bless you anon for using their whole names.
lizzie/miranda 10/10 never watched the show, loved the movie. but best friends to lovers and make it gay? 100% down for it
tawni/sonny 1/10 i have a bit of a beef with out disney channel (and other children’s shows; and sometimes other adult shows alkjkldjf) writes their relationships, regarding girl v. girl. there always has to be that popular girl/antagonist who bullies the new girl/protagonist and it’s just anoying to me. i do not vibe. i stopped watching so idk if they ever actually became friends but even if i had, idk if i’d vibe. giving it a 1 instead of a 0 tho bc i can see the appeal of enemies to lovers, who then pick on chad (aljlkdj omfg his name is actually chad)
maya/riley 10/10 never watched this show, either. but best friends to lovers is a good trope yo
maddie/willow 10/10 haven’t watched. but first of all, love that her full name is winifred. second, best friends to lovers!!
shelby/cyd 100/10 haven’t watched but TIME TRAVEL!! hell yeah!! best friends to lovers, time travel?? even more hell yeah!
olive/chyna 50/10 also haven’t watched, but i do like an artist falls in love with brains (and vice versa). 50 bc interracial couples, hell yeah! but not 100 bc i wouldn’t trust disney writers to handle that well lmao
stella/macy 100/10 i loved jonas (is what gives it the other 90) and i loved both these girls. and, of course, the best friends to lovers is a Great trope
teddy/ivy 5/10 only bc i didn’t actually like good luck charlie lmao. this would be 10/10 solely for the interracial couple, but again i don’t trust disney to write that well
emma/lou 2/10 i just don’t vibe. i haven’t seen the show but a quick skim over a summary and it doesn’t spark joy
maddie/bailey/london 9/10 poly all the way! BUT while the writer’s did well making bailey her own character, i never clicked with her the way i did with maddie
lindy/jasmine 3/10 again haven’t seen it and i don’t vibe
marisa/kc 1000/10 haven’t seen it but love the spy genre. also ZENDAYA!! i always forget she was part of disney before she got big
ngl this was a bit strange, esp since i’ve only seen like 3 out of all of these. and i stopped watching disney channel a long time ago. but thanks for sending this in anyway!
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🔥 Yuri on Ice
if you’ve followed me since my YOI obsession, or know of my writing side-blog, then you probably know where this is headed lol
episode 12, and lbr episode 11, were a bit of a mess
as far as individual problems go:
Yuuri definitely should have scored higher on his SP
Yuuri should have also won GPF gold
Yuri should have gotten silver
JJ should have come last
Viktor should have officially retired
the events of episode 12 really took several steps back in regards to Yuuri and Viktor’s relationship (unless they planned it that way?)
I admit this is coming from an amateur’s POV, but I feel like both episodes had pacing issues. I found myself feeling confused with the beats, pacing, and score. whereas those things, unless they are purposefully trying to confuse their audience, are usually supposed to strengthen the themes and whatever messages they’re trying to get across.
now, I don’t blame the writers for this, but whatever challenges they faced with those last two episodes (whether it be unreasonable deadlines, bad exec decisions, other problems, or a combo), it really took away from what they set up in the previous 10 episodes, both story line-wise and character arc-wise.
bless you for sending this in! thanks ^_^
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I have said this to like three people recently, but you should TOTALLY watch Tangled the Series!!! It's a GREAT show all around, and hasn't gotten nearly as much attention over the time it's been airing as it ought to have. The plot, characters, writing, music, and animation are all great, and it's def worth giving a watch. - A Tangled Nerd.
villain songs really do that to ppl huh lol
joking aside, i’d like to! when varian’s villain song popped up on my dash, i planned to, knowing it was on netflix, but of course the moment i decided to, disney was in the process of launching disney+ and took the series off netflix (even before they took everything else with them)
and i hate to admit it but even tho i grew up in the era of pirating, i don’t actually really know how to pirate. like i don’t have any good go-to sites, i don’t know how to navigate watch buttons to avoid viruses, so :\ long story short, my old laptop also got a virus during a busy time in undergrad and bc of that i was without my laptop for like a week. so now i’m deathly afraid of getting a virus again. venturing into pirate websites, even with a virus protector makes me extremely  nervous
as for getting disney+, it’s out of question, seeing as i’m a broke and fresh outta grad school
thanks for popping into my ask box, tho! i’ll find a way to watch it eventually
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After reading Annabeth saying Luke "always pushed himself too hard",and considering that he's the "best swordsman in 300 years"(surpassing children of Ares and Athena is a huge feat for a Hermes dude),I can't help but imagining him doing an Azula while training her lightning bending (one hair out of place! Almost is not enough!). Like,not wanting his swordfighting less than perfect(But Azula is undeniably a prodigy,and like someone else said,she works hard,but her work pays off rather quickly)
Cont. Since Azula is a natural talent,Luke would also need an inate aid for him,and that’s Roman ancestry (I won’t let go of it)). And we know that what made Azula like that was Ozai’s emotionally abusive BS. What do you think drove Luke to be that much of a perfectionist?
hey anon, thanks for being so patient with me. i’ve been working on a big project, finishing up my thesis, and binge-watching code geass lol
first, i really love the hc that Luke is a legacy of a Roman demigod. like it’s awesome and makes a lot of sense considering what we do know of Luke from both series. so i’m with ya there
i also think that his perfectionism, like Azula’s, stems from abuse as well. now it’s been a hot minute since i’ve watched a:tla, but i’m pretty sure much of the abuse Azula suffered from Ozai was largely verbal, emotional, and psychological (considering he burned and badly scarred his own son, tho, i wouldn’t put it past him to be physically abusive, but from what i remember of the show he wasn’t)
Luke’s abuse was neglect, psychological, and emotional. neglect from both Hermes and May. Hermes bc he was never fucking there, and if he was, he visited May in secret, that bastard. May bc she was psychological incapable of taking care and providing for Luke. the more i think about it, the more shocked and surprised i am that he didn’t starve to death or get sick bc May forgot to change his diaper or smth
it makes me think that her psychological state probably progressively got worse, so she was able enough to take care of him thru his baby/toddler years. regardless of what Rick knows, the fact still stands that she was neglectful, even if it wasn’t until later in Luke’s life
his abuse from May was also psychological and emotional. i mean, imagine, growing up with a mother who’s eyes turned toxic waste green, voice sounded like a swarm of bees, and spouted scary vague bullshit abt his fate? that’s traumatic for a fucking child! both psychologically and emotionally. it’s clear he loved his mother from the fact that he said he was leaving to protect her and that he’d be back for lunch. altho, he could also have just said that so he could leave. so he could hate his mother like he hates Hermes, bc she did decide to take on the Oracle, even tho she didn’t understand the risks, and even after Chiron warned her that smth was wrong, seeing as the Oracle was a rotting mummy by that point. and look, it’s not May’s fault that she didn’t know abt Hades’s curse, but like i said, the Oracle was a rotting mummy, and Chiron warned her abt unknown dangers and risks, and she still chose to do it.
anyway, suffice to say, his feelings are probably very mixed. he probably loves his mother in some way, but hates her for making such a risky decision when she had a fucking baby to take care of. Luke had to leave bc his father wasn’t there or answering his prayers. he didn’t know what had happened to make her like that, and she keeps spouting to him about some painful fate in his future. i mean can you imagine that feeling of being a lamb raised for slaughter and your godly father isn’t answering any of your prayers? trying to stop it? explaining himself why?
and even tho Hermes wasn’t there, his absence is also psychological and emotional abuse. and we see this a lot with a lot of the demigods in the series. they’re always striving for their godly parents’ approval. we see this in Percy, when he talks abt his first encounter with Poseidon. and we definitely see this in Annabeth, esp in MoA. Hermes’ neglect and absence communicates to a child who doesn’t know any better that they are unwanted and unloved. and some children will react by saying, “fuck them” while others will internalize the massage and wonder what they did wrong, as well as how they can earn that approval back (if it was there to begin with). most demigods, i’ve noticed, often react with the latter. bc on some level they love their godly parents despite their less than exemplary parenting, and despite not feeling loved by them
that abuse, that feeling of being unwanted, unloved, not enough, is probably what made him train so much. he wanted to be enough. it’s what made him want Hermes to give him a quest so badly–so he could prove to himself, but most importantly to his father, that he was capable and that he was worthy of his father’s love and attention.
which is why Hermes’s quest was such a slap in the face. retrieving a golden apple from the garden of Hesperides, as Luke says, is something the greatest hero in Greek and Roman mythology had already done. while Percy had a point, if Luke could pull it off, that meant he was as great as Hercules. but to Luke, he wasn’t proving himself to be worthy of Hermes’ love and attention. he was just proving he could complete a task that one of the greatest heroes in Greek and Roman mythology had already done
it’s so hard for me to articulate that difference rn–of being able to complete a task that someone great has done versus being compared to someone great because you’ve completed the same task, but there is a distinct, very fine, difference.
it’s not Luke’s. it’s Hercules’s. therefore, it is not proving his worth to Hermes, in Luke’s mind
which, I think, is the straw that broke the camel’s back. Luke was already angry at the gods for his mother, for leaving him in a house with his mother, for taking away a member of his found family (not doing anything to save her, a show if indifference, another lamb raised for slaughter). now this quest? not to mention, he then failed, and got a nasty scar to show for it on top of more trauma and PTSD wheeeee
so yeah, long story long, it also stems from emotional abuse. oftentimes, perfectionism stems from abuse, unfortunately. (the other is mental illness, and the last is sometimes it’s just in a person’s genes)
thanks for sending this in! and, again, for being patient with me
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hey ... got any ... Tori and Thalia ideas
it’s a little vague, but I imagine you mean hcs regarding Tori and Thalia’s relationship? if not, shoot me another ask. and in the meantime, bonus content!
more under the cut bc spoilers for ITPS and INAS (just in case ya know)
first, a quick tangent: tbqh, I don’t think about their relationship a whole lot. which I do feel bad about bc Thalia did do a thing that led to Tori’s death, so she did, like, kill Tori. and that’s a traumatic experience, whether or not Tori blames Thalia. but my brain often glosses over that fact and I’ve narrowed it down to two reasons
Thalia reacted instinctively to Luke’s last ditch effort to save himself, aside from surrendering and giving himself up to the gods. and Thalia didn’t know that Tori was going to push Luke out of the way, or that Thalia would end up kicking Tori off the side of the cliff. so even tho Thalia was directly responsible for killing Tori, there was no premeditation or intent, it was purely instinct
Tori was saved anyway, and she doesn’t remember hitting the rocks. sure, she certainly remembers falling, and the look in Luke’s eyes as he watched her fall, but not actually the act of dying. which, of course, is all still traumatic, but that’s the other thing. she was more focused on how it affected Luke, not necessarily that Thalia’s the one who kicked her. not to mention after she wakes up, she realizes that Luke had an out and he hadn’t taken advantage of that–then they’re thrown into Labyrinth planning and what follows soon after is Luke being possessed by Kronos. so she’s much more focused on herself still being alive and how it’s affecting Luke
/tangent
all that said, I have been cooking up a few ideas regarding their relationship for the third installment of my still unnamed PJO OC story that will take place in TOA. it’s quite juicy and I’m hoping I’ll be able to keep it once I sit down and solidify all the ideas I’ve been brainstorming since TOA was announced
but to say more would be wandering dangerously into spoiler territory
I can say a few things as I see them:
Tori doesn’t blame Thalia for her death, intellectually
emotionally, it was traumatic and she’s suppressed it. bc of this, it isn’t something she’s worked thru with Rowan, bc she doesn’t even know it’s a whole issue
it bubbles up to consciousness when the Hunters of Artemis are mentioned in general, and she feels extremely uncomfortable around both the Hunters and, especially, Thalia if they are physically present
she has a very negative opinion of them, for various reasons, but feels she has no real reason why she feels that way (sure there’s the CHB rivalry with them, but my Artemis not Rick’s who kicks out lesbians (instead of whatever the fuck the alternative is [side note: I haven’t read the second book just yet]) and treats it like that’s a good thing protects young girls, so it’s not like she’s doing anything bad to make Tori feel so negatively toward them)
and since Thalia’s usually away with the Hunters, Tori and Thalia don’t interact often or at all
Thalia doesn’t feel particularly guilty for pushing Tori off the cliff–she rationalizes that 1) Luke shouldn’t have grabbed for her spear like that, 2) Tori shouldn’t have pushed him out of the way, 3) Luke and Tori were both working for Kronos as far as she was concerned, so if Tori had died and stayed dead it wasn’t a huge loss to her, and 4) she didn’t stay dead, so her kicking Tori off the cliff is kind of moot
emotionally, obviously, killing someone (even if they come back) is traumatic, even if she doesn’t feel particularly remorseful about it. but Kronos was foiled, she watched Zoe die, had a counsel with the gods soon after, and then joined the Hunters, so there wasn’t really time to process her emotions or trauma surrounding the incident
and then she’s off with the Hunters, so it gets pushed further and further onto the back-burner until it’s out of sight, out of mind at this point
that will change in my story for TOA*, but saying any more would be
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*again, I haven’t officially solidified any ideas yet, so I don’t want to mislead anyone. I would like it to be one of the more major plot points, but if it doesn’t work out in the context of the story, I may have to, unfortunately, cut it
thanks for sending this in!!
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Am I the only one who hates those "Luke had a hard childhood! So what,many other demigods also did,but they didn't turn evil!" argument most of times? I mean,they often forget that Luke had specific shit happening to him,Kronos was in his head for two years before PJO started. One of the only posts that I liked on those lines was one that added "those kids were amazing",or something like that. The death siblings,for example. T
hey, thanks for dropping by!
to answer your question, i’m sure there are Luke stans out there who hate hearing that
personally, i’m not one of them. it is kind of annoying, bc if someone tells me that, it means they’re missing my point
to put it more succinctly, “cool motive, still murder” is one of my fave lines to use when ppl try to excuse/justify a character’s actions/decision (”we all had bad childhoods” is a close second)
however, if someone is directing it toward me, that means they’ve missed that i’m not a [insert character] apologist. i never purposefully am
you can see that with Luke and you can see that with the TUA characters. since this is an ask abt Luke, we’ll focus on him
i read PJO when i was high school, and by then i’d been thru sum shit, so when Luke gave his Bad Guy Speech™ i knew exactly what he was feeling, why, and knew he had a point regarding the gods
but i also knew that the way he went abt effecting change was wrong. i know that he has done terrible things, and that he’s not a great person.
and i also know that his circumstances are what led to his actions. and just bc he had a shitty childhood does not justify the actions he took
i can feel and think these two things at the same time. they are not mutually exclusive. and that is smth that a lot of ppl miss/don’t understand. these two things are not mutually exclusive
just bc i’m making memes and saying i stan him doesn’t mean i can’t see his character for who he truly is. there’s a post going around talking abt how we need to end cancel culture. while it doesn’t exactly apply to this situation, the message that ppl should be allowed to enjoy “problematic” things bc of the fact that they probably know the problems it has, yet still enjoy it anyway, does apply to this situation. you can do both those things. again, they’re not mutually exclusive. there will always be smth a piece of media can do better. cancelling them isn’t going to solve the problem, it’s only going to make it worse. you need to give ppl room to learn, change, and grow.
/tangent
as for the “Luke had specific things happening to him,” well…it’s more like luck of the draw that Kronos picked him to manipulate (tho not quite lucky in a sense lol)
like i’m sure there were plenty of scorned and bitter demigods out there that Kronos could have preyed on (and he did, so he could reform!), but he chose Luke and that’s prolly completely due to chance (what Fates? don’t know them)
so you can’t put blame on Luke for turning to Kronos, when it literally could’ve been any other scorned and bitter demigod. now i know that’s definitely simplifying it A Lot bc Luke was a prophecy child and there were definitely extenuating circumstances in his childhood that other children of the gods didn’t have to face, but you get my point here
it could’ve been anyone else
Kronos chose Luke, and Luke said yes. he could’ve just as easily said no, and forced Kronos to choose someone else
idk exactly what i’m trying to say, but i hope y’all get the picture
i’m not sure what you mean by “those kids are amazing” and i think you got cut off anon, so hmu with the rest of your ask if you can. and thanks for sending this one in!
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Hey thank you for having the balls to talk about how Luther went through trauma and abuse too
thanks dude for thanking me ^_^
i love making memes and i’m uber annoyed the fandom doesn’t understand Luther’s character, so i thought i’d combine the two
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I love to see someone else who hated the "get off my roof!" line in the PJO movies! I mean, why is Luke so kooky and weird on those movies? The writers (supposedly) didn't have budget to have Travis and Connor,so they decided to make that weird mash up with Luke.
thanks! i’m also glad that there is someone out there who hates that scene
i recently saw a post talking abt how it was underrated, actually funny scene in the pjo movies and i turned feral lmao
bc all i see it embarrassing cringe. and not in that “cringe culture” kind of way, more in the “it’s so embarrassing i want to die from secondhand embarrassment” kind of way
like i think i see what they were trying to go for--some kind of Scooby Doo-esque moment where Shaggy and Scooby ask the bad guy to stop chasing them so they can all catch their breaths and then start up the chasing again, but they rolled a critical 1 on execution bc it wasn’t funny and it Did Not fit well into the scene
the way Jake delivers the line,,, the expression on Logan’s face,,, like i just want to curl up into a ball and die bc of how awkward it is. it’s not funny!!!
there is a way to insert comedy into a serious narrative and serious fight and that was Not It
yeah, idk what was with that scene. otherwise, i feel like Luke was pretty much in-character. (tho i think of that “and Cleveland” line and just,,, more cringe) Jake just isn’t someone i can see doing comedy, even if it is comedic relief in a serious movie. his role as Adam in SPN was very serious, and so is Luke’s character. and he plays serious really well, but comedic? not so much
(the “did you just kill my brother” in SPN is only funny not bc it’s meant to be funny, if that makes sense. Michael is an angel and as the show has established, angels aren’t one to joke. the way he says it in a deadpan voice, with little to know emotional expression, and Cas’s response to it are what make the scene itself funny. Jake, as Adam possessed by Michael is not trying to be funny himself)
the only reason his role in SPN parody 2 is funny is bc 1) they addressed the fact that Adam is still in the cage lmao and 2) bc despite it not meeting the dictionary definition of parody or satire, the whole video is a joke (as in parody or satire, not in a negative “you’re such a joke” kind of way). i want to call it everything it actually isn’t, but it’s bordering parody and satire and irony--it’s sarcastic, it’s not itself meant to be funny, like the scene i talk abt above (again if that makes sense). and i feel like that fits in more with what Jake is comfortable with when it comes to acting (based on his personality and the roles he’s taken,,, tho i only know of his two big roles in SPN and PJO)
anyway, /tanget
thanks for sending this in anon!
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Do you think Luke being born and raised in Connecticut could be important for his character? Or was it merely like Rick closed his eyes, tossed a dart at an USA map with division of states,and that's the place Luke was born? Do you think that,if he was born in another state, would there be some small change in his character? I'm not American,and overthink a lot about my favorite. Are you American?
i, unfortunately, reside in america, yes. and i guess i’d call myself american,,,
i don’t think Rick thought it abt that much–like it’s not horribly crucial that he was born in Connecticut, but i do think it is important in that it borders NY. so he probably threw a metaphorical dart in the NE region of the US to decide where Luke would be born and raised/live
regions in american tend to blur together, and i can’t see any narrative reason why it would be important for Luke to have been born and raised in Connecticut or a different state near there (like Virginia; that’s where Annabeth’s home is, right?)
of course, it also depends on the region, not to mention CJ is located on the west coast, so he probably would’ve ended up a roman demigod had he been born on the west coast. if he wasn’t, getting to CHB would have been a lot more harrowing. and would he have bumped into Thalia and Annabeth then? it’s the same with some other regions, too. like the US is p huge. had he ventured out on his own in, say, the Midwest or Deep South, i don’t think he would’ve met Thalia and Annabeth
if he hadn’t met them, well that’s not Luke anymore. this is some other unnamed demigod, who, if a satyr didn’t find him, probably died and never made it to camp
all things being held equal tho,,, meaning if he somehow found his way to near or around CHB, and still met Thalia and Annabeth, if he’d been born and raised in a different region, that would possibly change his character in small ways, but i don’t think enough that it would make a huge difference story-wise
altho, despite having gotten around the west side of the US and now the Midwest, i can tend to be a bit oblivious abt regional differences. like accents? they don’t exist to me lol regional slang? not a thing to me. i joke that i’m abt as observant as harry potter, and we all know he was oblivious af
well that’s me when it comes to regional differences. now i’m sure if i traveled to like Boston or NY, i’d hear the accent (maybe, oblivious as harry, i’m telling ya); or if i traveled to the Deep South i’d see the regional difference between west coast, Midwest, and there
but since i haven’t gotten around to there, who’s to say?
thanks for sending this in anon!! and being patient, tho i answered this earlier than i expected bc i’m Stressed™ abt my exam and feeling impulsive tonight, so here we are
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I love what you say about age and maturity. While plenty of youngsters are capable and had to grow up early, they're still young. There's a reason for why people say "that's too much of a burden for someone that age",in many contexts. And that's a thing Riordan does right in his books,IMO. Hazel is very mature and intelligent,but comes across as a 13 yo. Luke,in his diaries,is shown to be street smart and savvy,but he does seem like a 14 yo. Percy,in TLO, seems like a teen soldier.
Percy himself is shown as powerful and clever,but he does come across as a teenager. And that’s a thing I appreciate more that I’ve seen teens that seem like adults,or the author fails to portray them as hardened by their environment.
thanks, i’m glad!
yeah, many are definitely capable of learning “adult” things, like cooking the bare minimum, cleaning house, paying taxes, etc. esp if it’s imperative to their survival
that doesn’t mean they should be treated like an adult in certain respects. i can’t like verbalize which respects right now, but i’m sure you’ll instinctively know what i mean when i say that
if we (meaning adults) shouldn’t treat young ppl as sexually mature adults, even tho that’s the way the portray themselves as, it should be the same for adult things in life, ya know?
i definitely think Riordan does keep in mind their age, and part of that may be because the first two series are written for kids/tweens. which was probably a great decision on Riordan’s part, honestly. not only did it hit his son’s demographic, considering he wrote the series for his son, but it keeps his characters age-appropriate, even tho they are going thru shit
and you can kind of see the change in toa, bc even tho it’s still written for kids, and apollo is physically 16, apollo is like, what? 4 centuries old? so it’s more mature and has darker themes while still being written for the target demographic
yeah, sometimes when ppl write for teens, it seems like they completely forgot what being a teen was like. not to mention, if they don’t interact with teens of generations after them, then they really don’t know how teens act and/or talk.
and i think it’s important to understand that kids/tweens/teens that go thru shit and act like adults will act their age when under duress or reminded of their trauma. it’s just bc their brains aren’t done developing, and they haven’t learned or been taught how to cope with all the symptoms that can come with ptsd. not only that, but as you grow up, learning abt yourself, your emotions, how you think and react to emotional and stressful situations is crucially important to your brain development and who you become, your personality
and i mention this when i can, bc it’s so important to understand what biology, medical science, and developmental psychology all agree on: the human brain is not fully developed until abt 23-25 years of age. not to mention, celeb kids are being sexualized up the wazoo, age gaps are not okay when below the ages of 15-25, and 13, 14, 15 year old girls think they need to look like sexy grown women bc our society is a shit-hole
so now more than ever it’s important to talk abt this
wow, i didn’t write an essay like i usual do!
thanks again for sending this in!
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I have the headcanon that Luke is a Venus Legacy. She's very important in the Roman mythology. And there's more: he has the power to redirect Aphrodite/Venus magic,like firebenders can redirect lightning (very risky and a bit difficult, though). Okay, I'm so obsessed with those headcanons that I can't believe May to be totally mortal. On the top of that,Luke seems to be way above his siblings in power and skill,and we all know that mortals aren't much in Percy Jackson,with the exception of...
Continued. With the exception of Sally,Rachel, perhaps Frederick and Paul(that doesn’t bother me, though. I have (little more than) a bit of bias against the badass normal trope,in most cases. They want to pass them as everymen with cleverness,but I can’t buy someone like Ty Lee as an everywoman. Sokka is great, though). Frank is way more powerful than even Clarisse, despite his lack of experience. Is May that much of an snowflake to have a powerful demigod from an ordinary god?
Continued. Or is she a legacy? Okay,Luke is probably a perfectionist workaholic,so he gets the credit. But being strong enough to get to host Kronos’ essence? Sorry about the length and the anti badass normal rant.
BTW,I love your prankster/mischievous Luke Castellan. I usually am not fond of that kind of headcanon for him,since fandom usually makes him too much like Travis and Connor,and Luke is very different from his brothers (Percy himself even lampshades it). Besides,the whole “silent mischief” fits his personality better,IMO. Luke didn’t come across as a loud guy to me,and he seems to act responsible most of time(for good and for bad, though). 💗💓💝💓💓💓💓
hi there! thanks for being patient with me on this. been busy ;_;
under cut bc it got longer than i was expecting
i really like this idea that May is a legacy. it’s interesting you pick Venus, but given how good-looking Luke was described as and how charming (tho, that could reasonably come from Hermes bc con-ppl are often charming) it makes sense
not to mention, as you say Luke did seem more powerful than most other demigods, being able to take on the curse of Achilles, hosting Kronos, not to mention holding up the sky for however long he did. i think it was Chiron who mentioned that only the greatest heroes are able to hold up the sky, but Luke was so clearly on the wrong side, and Percy even notices that in the books, but it’s like…never explained???
so for him to have more than just half godly blood in his system would make a lot more sense than the “it’s complicated” explanation we’re given in canon
i really like that hc that he can redirect Venus magic (my mind first went to charmspeak) but that it’s difficult and dangerous. like it’s such a cool concept, tho i’m not sure how much it applies to Luke? like maybe that’s a skill that any child or legacy of Aphrodite/Venus would have, but Luke was unable to unlock that power, or at least the full potential
bc it’s just that, and i think it’s mentioned by Annabeth in moa, but a big reason that Luke fell into Kronos’ trap was because Kronos fed Luke a lot of what he wanted to hear, manipulated his thoughts and it’s implied by Annabeth that Kelli also had a lot to do with manipulating him by using charmspeak
like i guess if it’s difficult and dangerous, it would make sense that he was unable to redirect her charmspeak, esp with Kronos also manipulating his thoughts and emotions, but it doesn’t quite fit…tho i think that has a lot of potential to be a story arc regarding the development of Luke’s character, kind of like how it was for Zuko and lightning
but that would also imply, following Zuko’s story arc, that Luke eventually realized the error of his ways and joined the gods’ side
altho, it would be more interesting, playing off him being able to hold up the sky, despite not being the “hero,” if he learned how to redirect charmspeak but remained “loyal” to Kronos
anyway /tangent
i can see where you’re coming from regarding the normal badass trope. i’m not sure how well Rick executed it (if he even did) bc in my opinion, it’s not necessarily that Sally, Rachel, Paul, and Fredrick are what i would term as a badass. Sally can see thru the mist and Poseidon loved her so much he offered immortality. that speaks to her character, but isn’t exactly badass. Rachel is the oracle, but doesn’t have any combat skills to speak of. in en extenuating circumstance, Paul used his sword-fighting skills to help protect Sally and others, but i doubt he’d have much else use for swordsmanship except if he were to take up acting. like Paul, under extenuating circumstances, Fredrick piloted a plane and shot at monsters with Celestial bronze bullets he’d made himself, tho i imagine that’s as much action that plane is going to see for the rest of Fredrick’s life
the acts themselves are certainly badass, but it doesn’t necessarily speak to their character as being a badass.
now, of course, being a badass doesn’t constitute being able to beat someone up. Rachel throwing her hairbrush at the lord of titans is p badass. and sally charming one of the Big Three gods so much he offered her immortality, not to mention killing Gabe and his buddies indirectly, is v badass. so being a badass can take many forms, i’m not denying that
but it doesn’t quite fit what i see the trope being, as defined by society, whereby to be a badass, you have to have some combat and strategic planning skills or smth. i hope that makes sense
i guess this is all just more complicated than i was originally thinking, bc if badass can be defined in so many ways, so can normal?
you mention Ty Lee, right? now i haven’t watched a:tla in forever, but from what i remember of her character, i never actually saw her as some everywoman. she was friends with a sociopathic princess whose father colonized the rest of the world. that’s not exactly normal. i mean even taking away the sociopathic and her father part, she’s friends with a princess! that’s not exactly what i’d constitute as normal you know?
but it’s hard to say what’s normal in that universe, right? bc nonbenders, like sokka, are considered “normal” and average bc they can’t bend, when a majority can. and sokka is often talked abt like he’s “normal” but his tribe taught him how to be a warrior from a young age. his father went off to war, and his mother was killed by a firebender when Ozai began colonizing the other tribes. that’s not normal. even in that universe, bc the avatar is supposed to keep peace b/t the different benders
so it comes back to how society defines the trope, where normal is your average person (no special powers, no secret talents, just goes abt their mundane day at a nine-to-five and binges TV shows on Netflix when they get home) and badass is having that hidden talent (that they most likely don’t even know abt) or learning to be a badass as their character arc and as the story progresses
gosh, hope that all made sense. long story long, i agree with you that it’s a tired trope (in that we’re introduced to someone we consider and are supposed to think is average but, surprise! they actually have a hidden talent that turns them into a badass), but i think if done right, it can be really cathartic and exciting
/tangent 2
yes, i think being legacies definitely affords demigods more power, bc they have more godly blood. and you make a good point: why was Luke so powerful and special? esp as a son of Hermes. i think a reasonable explanation would be that he’s a legacy
by definition, tho, him being a legacy means that May is also a legacy, bc Hermes can’t have other godly blood from other gods with him being a god himself already (disregarding the fact that gods don’t even have DNA)
no worries! as you can see, i kind of went into some rants too!
oh thank you!! i’m glad you liked those hcs. yeah, i like to think that Luke definitely pulls pranks and enjoys it too! but the way he’s portrayed in the books, he’s much more serious than Travis and Conner, probably bc of the house he had to grow up in, being on the run at a young age, and then going thru so much heart-break and trauma before he even turned Travis and Conner’s ages. that ought to subdue you a little
so i wanted to make sure i expressed that in my hcs, long story long lol. i like to think of Luke, before Kronos and all that shit, as a fun and easy-going guy but in a quieter and more subtle way than Travis and Conner specifically
thanks again for sending these!! i love, love, love talking abt to ppl abt stuff. my inbox is always open!
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I've seen a popular post on tumblr saying "I'm done with the female villain using seduction to get what she wants,and the male one using violence to the same end. How about we gender flip that shit - the guy charms someone,and the girl threatens to throw the poor victim off of a building?" or anything alike. I totally agreed with them,and my mind went to Drew Tanaka and Luke Castellan. Okay,Drew is a daughter of Aphrodite(goddess of beauty and love),and Luke's a terrific warrior.
Cont. However,that post fits their canon MO’s perfectly, IMO. In The Lost Hero,Drew used intimidation and fear to have people doing whatever she wanted,and was described as having cold,piercing eyes. Luke,while being a badass warrior and a big guy,his biggest assets are his looks and charisma. Silena is an example,and perhaps Kronos chose Luke as his second because he was well-liked. Even Drew being Aphrodite child makes a plus to me,since it makes her half-sister to Deimos and Phobos… ☆
i can agree with you on luke, and somewhat on drew, anon
and i can agree with that sentiment, as well. but also, tbh i think the sentiment is a little surface level, but that’s a whole other beast that i won’t address, bc that’s not really what this post is gonna be abt. and let me be clear, there’s nothing wrong with it being surface level
so luke, we’re good. i think kronos picked luke bc the titan knew that luke was, in fact, very good-looking. even with the scar. and even tho i do think luke had to actually work to charm ppl, he still could. not to mention both annabeth and percy had crushes on him (no one describes another guy like percy did luke unless they have at least a lil bit of a crush on the guy, fite me)
annabeth, of course, had deeper ties
but man, percy sees luke and right off the bat, despite being a little off-put by the scar, percy continues to describe luke is very pleasing terms (for the lack of a better word). even when he knew luke was evil, in som percy calls him an evil male model,,, so like...i’m just saying
anyway
the bonus with luke is that he’s a great warrior--best swordsman in the last three centuries. that’s a high title
drew, on the other hand, i can only half agree with. while i’m glad that rick didn’t go that “sexual” route with her just seducing people to get them to do her bidding, i don’t know that she’s entirely in the “girl threatens to throw someone off the side of the building” class either
for one, it is implied that drew has seduced ppl in order to break their hearts, which is fine. not like, morally fine, but in the sense that it’s okay to age-appropriately have drew “seduce” ppl for her own gains as a character in general. i’m kinda going for “let’s not slut-shame ppl” energy here, which is why i say age-appropriate and put seduce in quotes. so i hope that makes sense
for two, i wouldn’t necessarily be afraid of drew talking me into walking off a cliff or smth. lbr i can’t say how much i’d be affected by charmspeak in general, but we know that charmspeak works better when you’re attracted (or at least find the person aesthetically pleasing) to the person and when what they’re saying is smth they already believe. the magnitude of how well it works probably depends on how much they believe whatever the charmspeaker is telling them/trying to convince them of. with drew, it’s hard to tell her limits, following what we do know from piper, since ppl were scared of her. idk how hard she’s have to try if ppl feared her. it seems like it’d be harder? but that’s a tangent
for three, i also do think her being a child of aphrodite does automatically pull her toward “seduce enemy” territory. now, as you know from previous posts, i want to abolish the stereotype that love only means romantica/sexual love and beauty only means some arbitrary western standards of “““““beauty””””” but it is important to remember that stereotypes are automatic and prevalent responses to things, so it does communicate some of age-appropriate “seduction” on drew’s part
when i read, “girl threatens to throw someone off the side of a building,” i think of the scene in...i think it was the first avengers movie? when cap and black widow are on the roof of a building and the guy they’re--jk, it was the winter soldier, wasn’t it--threatening is like, “you’d never do it cap” and cap is like, “yeah, but she will” and black widow just fucking punts him right off the side of a building without a second thought
drew’s in a grey area between “seduce the villain” and “throw villain off the side of a building” bc she’s not using age-appropriate “seduction” most of the time, and it’s obvious she’s instilled quite a lot of fear in the campers at chb, so i’m not denying that
now am i saying that she has to be physically violent to fit “throw villain off the side of a building?” not at all. and you could def argue that her manipulation is violent in a sense that it’s abusive
but i wouldn’t say you can equate it to the outright violence that men often show in media (which has a lot to do with toxic masculinity, but again, tangent). so, she’s probably closer to “throw villain off the side of a building” but still in that grey area, not to mention her being a child of aphrodite and the stereotypes involved are also pulling her toward the “seduce villain” side
however, i do think if rick made her totally “throw villain off the side of a building,” even with just her charmspeak, we’d be straying into her being a true-true villain territory (she’s definitely an antagonist and not nice, at all in hoo; but like we’re talking the kind of monster that would goad someone into killing themselves). and while it’d be interesting to have a child of aphrodite, who’s a woman, be the antagonist and/or villain would have been dynamic and very interesting, there’s quite a lot to unpack and juggle with if we kept drew as drew and just put her into an antagonist and/or villain role (for example, her being japanese)
that’s all i can think of to say at the moment. thanks for your patience on this. i’m on break, but i’m also working on my thesis p much nonstop so i can propose finals week (wheee)
it’s late here, so i man not be entirely cognizant, but here’s what i got for ya
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but like if Diana was suddenly Alive, how would she react to Luke and Tori's relationship, both pre-war and during it?
hey, thanks for being so patient with me on this!
i had to flesh Diana’s character out a little more so i could get inside her head and think of how she might respond to Tori’s relationship with Luke
so without further ado, hcs below!
so Diana is suddenly just…like Alive, prolly the year that Percy comes to camp, let’s say (which means that Luke has already stolen the lightning bolt and helm of darkness, but it’s like mid-january, just for timeline reference)
she wakes up in a hospital, the doctors say she came out of a coma but she’s pretty sure she died
she can’t remember where she was during the interim, and the doctors can’t recall how she ended up in the hospital or who was even paying for her to remain on life-support for so long
whenever she asks, they stutter a response before going completely silent and getting a glazed look in their eyes for a few moments only to come out of it, smile, and change the subject
she’s discharged from the hospital after a abt a week (idk if that’s even realistic lol) of monitoring and recovery
and as she’s getting dressed, a million thoughts race through her head abt if she still has a place to live, if she has a hospital bill that will kill her again, where her children are
and once that thought pops into her head, that’s all she can think abt
so even with all those other worries she finishes dressing and jumps off the bed, heading straight to the front counter to check out
but she pauses when she sees a familiar-looking man flirting with the nurse at the desk
she wants to confront him immediately, but doesn’t want to look crazed in front of the nurse so she shoves him out of the way, interrupting their flirting session
“i’m Diana Williams, checking out, is there anything i need to do? sign?”
the nurse is miffed and has enough dignity to look ashamed for ignoring Diana before grabbing a clipboard and pen for Diana to sign, explaining info abt bills and the like
Diana can barely hear, she scans the paper and signs before handing the clipboard and pen back to the nurse
she turns to face the man then
it’s Apollo if you haven’t figured it out yet
he’s abt her age, with brown skin and hazel eyes, short curly brown hair but she knows its him, she’d be able to tell from a mile away
he opens his mouth to say smth, but she grabs his arm and pulls him outside
“where are my children?”
flashing sideways to Tori, she’s at camp, totally oblivious to what’s just happened, as is Dan (still not claimed btw)
the next day they’re called to the big house before breakfast with no explanation
Diana is waiting with Chiron, in his wheelchair form, in the front room
Diana’s always been good at making friends, so she’s chatting with Chiron easily and honestly he’s more uncomfortable abt this whole situation than Diana
the doors swings open and Dan comes in first, quickly followed by Tori
they both pause when they see their mom and Diana stands, flattening the wrinkles in her dress and smiling nervously at her children
Dan rushes forward and pulls her into a hug, tears flooding his eyes
Tori is still frozen at the door, afraid this is some cruel dream or hallucination
when Dan is done hugging Diana, he pulls back, keeping one of her hands in his and turns to face Tori, who is still frozen at the door
Diana smiles softly and holds out her free hand, and like two magnets, Tori’s hand raises and she slowly approaches Diana
when their hands meet, Tori breaks down into tears and Diana rushes forward to throw her arms around her daughter as they both sink to the floor
it’s harder for Tori than it is for Dan, bc she was there when their mom died
Tori is afraid to let go of Diana’s hand or lose sight of her bc she’s so afraid Diana might just disappear, revealing that this was indeed some weird dream or hallucination
they settle into the front room of the big house and talk to Chiron abt this whole situation
he knows as much as Diana, which is not much and the gods sure as hell aren’t saying anything
when Chiron brings up the fact that they could just be summer campers, Tori hesitates and Diana notices
Dan looks away, annoyed but doesn’t say anything as Diana asks Tori what’s wrong
Tori blushes and looks away but doesn’t say anything
Chiron excuses himself and asks Dan to accompany him to whatever task he’s just made up. Dan goes reluctantly
Diana takes Tori’s hands into hers and says, “someone special?”
despite how much fear fills her that she’s going to blink and Diana’s going to disappear, it’s amazing how easy it is for Tori to fall back into this relationship with her mom
“his name is Luke.” Tori mumbles. “i don’t even know if he likes me back, but…well we’ve grown close you know over…well, over sh-shared pain”
Diana doesn’t meet him then bc everything is still settling, with her being Alive again and all
Diana reluctantly goes home, but promises to IM them that night and tomorrow (Apollo’s provided her with some drachmas)
Tori’s claimed that night bc Apollo got a stern talking to after Diana found out he hadn’t claimed her yet
but Tori sneaks over to the Hermes cabin that night to talk to Luke abt this whole ordeal
he’s not sure what to think, honestly, but some small part of him is afraid he’ll lose her now that her mom is back. and it’s stupid and irrational, but he can’t help but feel that way
but he lets Tori decide if she wants to go home until the summer (she ends up deciding to stay bc she knows smth is up with Luke)
Dan leaves for home
Diana IMs Tori any chance she can get thru those months leading up to summer
bc of his irrational fears of losing Tori, Luke confesses his love for Tori sooner, when summer begins (rather than right before he leaves for Kronos’ cruise ship)
so when Diana visits to drop Dan off for the summer session, Luke meets Diana
tbh, Diana’s shocked when she sees Tori holding hands with a white boy but she hides it behind a smile as Tori and Luke walk down half-blood hill, outside the barrier
Luke is nervous af but he also hides it behind a smile
Dan says goodbye to his mom before heading up the hill, not wanting to be there for the meeting
Diana and Luke shake hands
she looks at Tori and says, “oh, he’s quite handsome for a white boy”
Tori stares at her mom and Luke jumps like he’s been shocked before his entire neck and face go red
“oh, and he’s sensitive too, that’s good” (and she means it; i’m not trying to make it sound like some kind of jab to his masculinity or whatever)
when it’s revealed that Luke was the lightning thief and he goes off to kronos’ cruise ship, leaving Tori at camp, Tori goes home for that winter
of course she tells Diana everything and Diana just wants to tell her that he’s trouble and Tori shouldn’t be with him anymore
but Diana can also see how heart-broken she is and doesn’t want to make it worse
until Tori decides she’s going to go find him and convince him to come back to camp that next summer
“you can’t save those who don’t want to be saved”
“you don’t know that he doesn’t! i have to at least try! i owe him that much”
Diana can tell how much Tori loves Luke, and she’d hate to take such a thing away from her, but Diana’s scared that Luke is going to get Tori hurt, right after they got each other back
she wants to tell Tori that sometimes love is just like that
she loved Apollo, still does, but had to let him go bc he’s a god
they have a bit of a falling out right before Tori goes to find Luke bc of this
Diana tries IM-ing Tori while she’s on the cruise ship but they aren’t going thru and Diana starts to worry
she contacts camp but Tantalus and Mr. D are no help; the only thing she can do is talk to Dan
she feels utterly helpless so she starts praying to Apollo; she’s not sure what good it will do, but she does it anyway bc all she wants is for her children to be safe
Tori IMs Diana when she decides that she can’t stay on the ship, and that maybe Luke doesn’t want to be saved after all
she’s sobbing as she tells her mom this, and although Diana is relieved to hear that Tori’s coming back, she comforts her daughter and avoids any “i told you so’s”
but then Tori is stabbed by Kelli
Diana finds out bc Tori IMs her the night that Luke trades his life for Tori’s
when Diana learns this, the cold realization dawns on her that this isn’t some summer fling that she’s seen all her friends have before
it’s not even akin to what she and Apollo share
Tori and Luke’s love for each other goes far deeper and is the type of love that can’t be expressed with words
and when she realizes this, dread fills her entire body and she feels the most helpless since this whole ordeal began
Apollo’s told her abt loves like those in greek mythology; during their late-night talks when they were together
but she never imagined one of her own children would have found smth like that; it’s almost cruel bc greek myths rarely had happy endings and she’s afraid that smth may happen to her daughter
she can’t sleep for days afterward, IM-ing Tori as much as possible just to see her tho she doesn’t know what to say
Diana knows now that there’s no convincing her daughter to come back home or to give up on Luke
she continues to pray to Apollo
one day, tired of feeling helpless she IMs Luke and to her surprise he answers
she’s angry as soon as she sees him, but she doesn’t precisely know why bc he saved her daughter’s life–his love is strong for Tori and that should mean smth to Diana, but it only makes her angrier
tears fill her eyes as she spits out, “you swear on the styx you will protect my daughter, no matter what, do you understand? you are not to let any harm come to her”
and bc he loves Tori, Luke swears
she hates him after that point, but she loves her daughter more
and as long as Luke keeps his promise, then there isn’t much else Diana can do
Tori makes sure not to tell Diana any details abt what goes on as the war ramps up
some small part of Diana wonders how Tori could love someone such as Luke
but she also wonders if she could ever fall in love like that and with someone like Luke--can she really blame Tori?
Tori goes home after the summer that tbol takes place and Diana is there with open arms, esp bc Tori is devastated that she’s lost Luke
some part of Diana feels like its her fault bc she made Luke swear on the styx to protect Tori
but another part knows that Luke would have with or without her prompting; she’d done it bc it was the only thing she felt she could control at the time
Diana avoids talking abt Luke too much, just lets Tori vent as much as she needs
being home allows Tori a much-needed break, and Diana tries to encourage Tori to find the strength to keep fighting (heavily implying Tori needs to find the strength to move on from Luke)
Diana tries to stop Tori from going back to camp that next year bc a war is coming, but Tori feels she’s responsible for letting it get that far and Diana doesn’t argue despite being scared sick that Tori may die
she begins to pray to Apollo again bc both Tori and Dan feel obligated to help chb in some way during the war
when it’s all over and Luke dies, some part of Diana is relieved
but seeing how badly Tori takes it evokes that same anger toward Luke
Tori clearly deeply loved him but with him gone, he broke her heart and his promise
and Diana resents him for that
some small part of her wishes that Tori had never fallen in love with him in the first place
he was nothing but trouble
well, almost
bc it was clear that he made Tori happy
and Diana wishes nothing more than for her children to be happy
i hope that’s kind of what you were looking for
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Hi! Am I the only one who ever thought about what would've happened if Percy had been killed in the end of The Lightning Thief? I mean,we have other children of the Big Three. And the prophecy would've been fulfilled anyways, IMO.
i wouldn’t say you’re the only one, but i definitely have’t thought abt it
i tried to when i got this ask and my brain malfunctioned bc percy is my boy
like maybe it would’ve been an interesting thought experiment after i’d read tlt and before i read the rest of the series, but seeing as i came late the pjo party, i read the books in succession bc they were already all out
and by the end, i loved percy. and i still do. i love him so much, so to think abt him dying so early on is painful. not to mention that as we continue into this bad timeline (irl) and i go to fiction to escape this bad place, i don’t really like thinking abt my faves dying
either early on in the series, or as angsty™ fic
/tangent (sorry)
i do think that other children of the big three being the prophecy child would be really interesting though…
i think if percy was out of the picture (rip my boy, just in this thought experiment) and we ignore the roman demigod lol, i honestly think nico or bianca could become the prophecy demigod
like, a large part of thalia’s decision to join the hunters was the fact that she figured she didn’t have anything to grow old for (i.e. her brother, whom she thought was dead). also, i think something abt luke’s betrayal seriously hurt her, and that also pushed her to join the hunters
first she loses her brother and considers him dead, for the sake of her own sanity. then she finds a family in luke and after sacrificing herself for them, she comes back yrs later to find out that luke has now joined the side of the titans. considering she still has the emotional maturity of, what like a 14-15 yr old? so she’s gonna react in a way that’s not healthy, not rational, and probably that blows things out of proportion (which is’t a bad thing, that’s just how kids and teens be sometimes ya know)
“well, i’ve lost my brother, and now i’ve lost luke. annabeth has percy, so she’ll be fine. i think i’ll join the hunters.”
i hope that makes sense. like yeah these demigods have to go thru a shit-ton, but i think a crucially important thing to remember is that they are only mature for their age and when comparing that to, say, a 20, 30, 40 yr old, their maturity means peanuts
anyway, so thalia’s out. (i’m not going to go too much into detail abt the events that lead up to that decision, tho, since that kind of revolves around the fact that percy’s alive lol, and if i did, we could be here all day)
however, i do think that with percy out of the picture, hades would then take his children out of the lotus casino much sooner. i can’t exactly rationalize why hades wouldn’t immediately send them to camp (maybe bc he knows they might not be accepted), but it’s also a dangerous gamble to send them to some boarding school and hope that a satyr, compared to a monster like thorn, would find them. esp considering the fact that they’re two kids of hades
so i opt to think, weighing the risks and benefits, he takes them out of the casino and gets them to chb. i think, to try and avoid any discrimination they may face, only chiron knows they’re children of hades, and hades asks chiron to keep that a secret for as long as possible (rumors spread like wildfire)
since bianca doesn’t meet the hunters, she doesn’t join them (whoo!) and doesn’t die. [aside] i’d like to think she makes such good friends with the ppl at camp, and so does nico, that that burden of looking after her younger brother completely disappears. so if she ever does meet the hunters she doesn’t feel the pressure to get away from that responsibility (see what i mean abt maturity and not reacting rationally?) so rn she’s the prophecy kid, since she’s older than nico
okay lbr, she is the prophecy kid, i’m not gonna kill her in this au lmao, that’d just be cruel
idk where i was going with this, i’m sorry. mostly, i think it would be interesting to develop nico, bianca, annabeth, thalia, and grover’s relationships with each other.
also ppl getting over their shitty prejudice toward hades and his kids. like, i think since at first they aren’t introduced as hades kids, they’d have the potential to make a lot of friends. without a tragedy similar to what befell nico hanging over them, nico is still that excited, bright-eyed 10-yr-old and bianca, now free of responsibility, can be more carefree, a teen girl
so like, i think that annabeth, thalia, and grover would be really great friends with them. and i think they’d make a lot of friends at camp too
once bianca learns of the prophecy, i’m sure she had a phase of not accepting it. like she just got free from her responsibility as an older sister, and now she’s got the responsibility of the whole world on her shoulders
and like a teen do, she doesn’t want anything to do with it at all. classic hero’s journey, though, maybe smth happens and nico is seriously injured, and she decides that maybe she doesn’t want to accept it, but she’s the eldest, and so she will. for her brother and for hades.
like it’s pretty cliché, but it makes for a great story arc/character growth arc
sorry abt the vagueness of it all. thinking abt all the details makes my head spin, and i want to focus on my current fic. but this is really interesting, and i may flesh it out more when i have more time. despite the prospect of my boy dying T_T (maybe i can find a loophole)
thanks for sending this in! i’m sorry that it took me so long to get here. like i said before in a separat post, i’ve just got a lot of projects i’d like to finish before i go back to school, and i’m having trouble balancing/prioritizing them
i’ll try to get to the other two anons i have sitting in my box today. if i don’t, just know it’s bc of my prioritizing issues XP
thanks again for sending this in!
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