#nazi villains

[vertigoartgore]

Guillermo Del Toro's Hellboy (the 1st one) turns 20 today. Feel old yet ?

#hellboy #2004 #guillermo del toro #devil #demon #ron perlman #2000s #BPRD #Rasputin #ocult #ww2 #linda blair #abraham sapien #underrated #nazi villains #mike mignola #blade #blockbuster #movie #comic book movies #CBM #john hurt #father figure #mid 2000s #Samael #sewers #horror #supernatural #red right hand #action movie

[biggest-gaudiest-patronuses]

there's just... there is no reason to make yet another cop show in this day and age. copaganda is not only bullshit, it is a failure of imagination.

you want to watch brooding characters with dark pasts investigate crimes in an official capacity? just use private detectives (cops have a miserable solve rate anyway). want eccentric geniuses & their sidekicks solving mysteries? i present you with armchair detectives & neighborhood busybodies. oh, you're craving a workplace comedy-drama starring overworked protagonists doing their heartfelt best to resolve community conflicts? social worker office sitcom! bitch this is ACHIEVABLE

#i lied the one reason to make a cop show is you want a mafia show and the cops are currently by far the most powerful u.s. mafia #BUT! i cannot emphasize enough: the police have none of the aesthetics or personality of the actual mafia so why even bother #The Sopranos but in an office setting with buzzing fluorescent lighting? and half your co-workers are weekend neo-nazis? come on #no. just no #from now on i want all tv cops to be villainous side characters #but BORING villainous side characters #i like villains as much as the next queer audience member but i cannot overstate the importance of portraying cops as not just bastards #but BORING bastards #they are so boring. they are boring and hateful and also neither particularly smart nor interesting #i need to emphasize: there is NOTHING to romanticize there #i am so passionate and supportive of anti-romanticizing cops. ANTI-ROMANTICIZE THE POLICE. #the police are BORING and HATEFUL and CRUEL and BASIC AS HELL #and we should be pointing that out publicly every chance we get #the police are BORING BASIC BITCHES and mocking them publically is a patriotic service

[socialjusticeinamerica]

#only villains ban books #Republican book banning #Floriduh book banning #never trump #Ron DeSatan #republican assholes #traitor trump #crooked donald #republican hypocrisy #republican party #maga morons #moms for liberty are Nazis

[frasier-crane-style]

What I hate about modern-day comic book writing is that it's so jokey. The Riddler can break out of Arkham, kill twelve people, and threaten to blow up a subway car, and everyone will act like they're just LARPing? There'll be random hook-ups and a bunch of pop culture references and the whole situation will be treated with these knowing kid gloves, like everyone involved is Ralph and Sam clocking into work.

And you can't even say that it's lighthearted irreverence or dark humor, because the moment one of the writer's pet causes come up, THEN everyone gets all serious and solemn. So you get these scenes where the characters are treating gentrification like it's the worst thing imaginable, then playing grabass with Mr. Serial Killer like he's just their wacky neighbor.

It completely takes me out of the story, because it's clear the writer is only going to invest actual pathos and engagement into this world when it can be spun to some social justice angle.

I mean, even the shipping... the shipping is arguably bad on its own, but the way straight couples are treated like a retarded soap opera, pairing up at random and then breaking up for no reason, while gay couples are always treated like the second coming of romance and they're forever endgame... how does anyone take this stuff seriously?

Why is marriage this terrible thing that ages the characters and makes them boring, unless it's a gay couple, in which case them getting married is some long overdue triumph over adversity and the best possible direction the story could take and you're just supposed to marinate in how much sex these two characters are having with each other. It's not even porn. I could respect porn. It has a purpose. This is just like... there is a literally published Harley Quinn high school AU comic.

And you know, I watch a Mission: Impossible movie, it has real stakes. Tom Cruise is going "we have to stop this guy before he sets off the nuke!" That's all I'm asking for. That they treat the situation like it's a real thing that's happening to them and not a game show they're on. But these are such shitty writers that they can't put themselves into the headspace of "how would I feel if this were happening to me?"

#also the gay characters are usually unrepentantly evil villains who are now retconned to never having done anything wrong #and only wanting to kill nazis #and the heroes are suddenly willing to make exceptions for THEM to kill whoever they want #because of course supervillains are the best people to judge what grievances are legitimate #this is another rant #but it feels like at least with 90s antiheroes #it was agreed they were bad people #but now we have characters acting worse than venom #and being treated like they're soft uwu babies

[tonkysexist]

Ah yes the actual Jewish man with a perspective defined by his experiences and the abuse he suffered as a genocide victim is far inferior to the non-Jewish actor portraying a sanitized version of the character. Nuance is dead and their are only good guys and bad guys. The Jewish author who developed his backstory is clearly reading too much into it and is incompetent. /s

Morrison has clearly never bothered to evolve their perspective on Magneto since the nuke-twirling days of Lee/Kirby. It reads in the disrespect they have for this character and their general inability to write minority characters. Morrison loves to wax poetry about the mutant metaphor with characters like Scott, Jean and Emma. However, they’re true lack of understanding becomes blindingly obvious when they have to write characters who are part of real life minority groups. Everything about Morrison’s Magneto was retconned and for damn good reason. This plus the rampent islamophobia/racism present in their DC work is why I will never trust Grant Morrison.

#goy stop writing ‘magneto has become the nazis he’s a villain no matter what his origin is’ challenge #big old fuck you to grant morrison #marvel #marvel comics #x men #magneto #magneto was right

[wolfsbanesparks]

Who is your favorite Shazam/Captain Marvel villain and who is your least favorite?

What a fun question!

It's basic I know, but I think my favorite villain is Dr Sivana. Like he's the quintessential Shazam villain, the first one everyone thinks of, and he's got range as a villain! He's a goofy mad scientist in most versions, but sometimes he is genuinely terrifying. And his relationship with his family members makes him a lot more interesting and dynamic than most Shazam villains.

(As a side note I'm also a big fan of Black Adam and his parallels with Cap but he's not been squarely in villain territory for a long time)

And my least favorite would have to be Captain Nazi. I love watching him get beat up by the Marvels, but he's just not that interesting to me. And he's a nazi so...bottom of the list.

#ask me whatever you want y'all #shazam #dc captain marvel #dr sivana #black adam #captain nazi #there are a lot of other villains that i think are amazing and deserve more recognition #but sadly they are not my favorites simply because there isnt much to work with for a lot of them

[thedupshadove]

Anti-Nazi 1930s heroes who aren't Jewish but also are and can't seem to decide whether they're glasses-wearing nerds or pillars of machismo.

#Superman #Clark Kent #Indiana Jones #Indy counts because he's a deliberate pulp homage whose stories are set in the 30s #And yes I know Nazis were never Superman's primary villain but he did fight them sometimes

[man-down-in-hatchet-town]

Spies Are Forever is such an Extra Wild Musical 'cause it's like

Tin Can Bros. and Talkfine: hahaha we created a fun little comedy musical spoofing spy films, what silly goofs we are! 😊 The actual fans: 😭 I was first traumatized by this musical seven years ago and am unlikely to ever fully recover.

#and also there's a villain named Doctor Baron von Nazi #truly a one of a kind show #spies are forever #rewatchers2000 #tin can bros #talkfine

[spacedustmantis]

listening to the spies are forever soundtrack is so wild bc it's genuinely one of the best musical soundtracks i've ever listened to and then there's also two songs about how the nazis are 'not so bad'

#important extra information i guess #the songs are sung by a villain #the musical itself is definitely not making the point that nazis weren't or aren't awful #also both the guy playing the nazi and the writer are jewish #it still takes me out of it so bad #especially bc not so bad is immediately followed up by the torture tango #buggy thoughts #buggy life

[mariocki]

Simon Templar meets his match in the shape of Roger Delgado, as Peruvian police chief Captain Rodriguez in The Saint: Locate and Destroy (5.12, ITC, 1966)

#fave spotting #roger delgado #the master #delgado!master #the saint #locate and destroy #itc #1966 #classic doctor who #most policeman characters in the saint fall into one of two archetypes: they're either competent but deeply suspicious of Simon by #reputation‚ if not downright vindictive‚ or they're bungling fools who Simon gives the run around and generally makes idiots of #the longest serving of course being Ivor Dean's Chief Inspector Teal‚ who sort of bridges between the types (he's generally good at his job #but his grudge for Simon clouds his judgement and often leads to embarrassment) #Roger actually gets to play a fairly different type of cop: he's both clearly a good‚ honest man but bears Simon no real ill will and #actually gently nudges him in the right direction. i mean it helps that the villain of the story is a nazi war criminal (even Teal would #side with Simon for that i suspect) but it is a nicely gentle performance compared to many of the other guest cops. unable to act himself #because of the power wealth and influence of the villain‚ you can tell Roger really wants Simon to succeed; indeed‚ even after finding him #in a highly compromising position after a gunfight‚ the captain gives Simon a whole day before he has to leave the country #also it's worth noting that this guest spot is like.. universally better than Roger's previous episode (the dreaded 1.10 The Golden Journey #aka The Episode We Don't Talk About)

[cynningly]

i love reading the tags on reblogs of HABIT posts cause they’re all like

“i want him DEAD i want him to BURN IN HELL i wanna see him get BEAT TO DEATH and SUFFER and DIE i wanna see him DROWN IN MISERY and be DISMEMBERED and feel PAIN but hehe i love him he’s so silly <3”

cause honestly same

#there’s a nuance in loving HABIT cause we’re supposed to hate him #like canonically he was Jack the Ripper and Ed Gein and an actually World War II nazi #but god dammit if he wasn’t so fucking funny in everymanhybrid that you can’t help but enjoy his screen time #and yeah normal people were probably like ‘oh hes actively laughing at murder that’s so scary #and the rest of us who love unhinged silly villains like Bill Cipher are like ‘hell yeah get’em babygirl <3’ #it’s just that he’s a real world type evil and that’s where the horror is supposed to come from #but he’s been so far removed from that that i’m pretty sure 90% of the emh fandom doesn’t even know he was also like fuckin Josef Mengele #so it’s a mix of liking someone fictional who’s commiting silly acts of extreme violence #but it’s toeing a line of brushing off real people and events that shouldn’t be made light of #but here in fanon we just focus on silly purple rabbit man #<-not william afton #<-or Jax #there’s too many at this point #emh #everymanhybrid #habit emh #habit everymanhybrid

[adarkrainbow]

I might be very angry at Jack Zipes' "Fairy Tales and the art of subversion" for how it handled French fairytales... But I want to insist that it does NOT mean the book is to throw away in its entirety.

On one side - this book formed the basis of decades and decades of scholarly study and adult reception of fairytales. Still today university classes use it as a reference when it comes to comparative literature or the evolution of fairytales, so that means something. It doesn't mean the book is an irrefutable source and a complete perfection - as I keep repeating the chapter about Perrault and French fairytales is dead wrong. But it means that the book as a whole was a marking step and a great mass onto fairytale study as the whole - the same way Bettelheim's "The Uses of Enchantment" also was a historical step.

On the other side - and THAT'S THE IMPORTANT SIDE... Yes, several parts of Zipes' book have aged badly or have been debunked by recent research. It was an American work of the 80s - what do you expect? Time flies, that's the flow of things. But other have not badly aged at all. Some have aged very finely. Some are VERY important. Some are very much needed today.

To the bad chapter about French fairytales (not bad in term of quality, but bad because misinformed and lacking key context resulting in false conclusions), chapter 2 ; I will oppose the excellent and needed chapter 6.

The chapter about the use of German folktales, especially the brothers Grimm fairytales, by the Nazis. A full study of the mechanism of how these "children stories" came to be propaganda tools, starting with intellectual socio-political debates of the late 19th ending up with the soiling of the Nazi party during World War II, passing by the 1920s fad in Germany to write political fairytales.

A NEEDED chapter because so many people today seem to ignore that the Grimm fairytales (but not just the Grimm's, Andersen's too, and Bechstein's too, they were the "holy trio") became symbols and emblems of the Nazi rule. To the point the countries that fought against the Nazis during World War II considered banning and censoring the Grimm fairytales once Germany was defeated.

And a needed chapter because it also explains a point I myself said several times. When it comes to the brothers Grimm fairytales, yes, there are antisemitic stories in the collection, because they were collected or formed during an antisemitic time. But they are not as many as we would believe... However the Nazis worked very hard in reinterpreting and re-reading ALL the fairytales as antisemitic ; and they notably enforced a lot of antisemitic meaning onto stories that did not have any before. That was the essence of Nazi propaganda: trying to prove that the Grimm fairytales were basically the perfect Jew-hating manual from beginning to end. And this shows so well how important it is to be careful with the INTERPRETATION and the READING of fairytales, because the trick of those that want to truly twist them is not to rewrite the story... But to add meanings that weren't in it.

The Nazis held the belief that if a hero won the heart of the princess it wasn't because he was brave or courageous or better than others - or rather he was, but for them it was just a byproduct of the hero being of a "superior race" and they had an entire reading of the typical "Win the princess' hand" trope as a process of genetic selection.

Of course the Nazis emphasized already antisemitic stories, like The Jew in the Thorns, but it was so easy for them to make every other story about Jews! I already evoked how the idea that Hansel and Gretel is an "antisemitic blood-libel" story is clearly a misinformed take that reads way too much into this... but that's the kind of bullshit the Nazis threw. Yes the evil witch in the gingerbread house is a wicked Jew, and she is trying to make a blood libel out of nice little German kids... Let us thanks the sponsor of today's story: The Nazi Party!

Snow-White? The evil queen are the jealous Jews persecuting innocent Germans! Little Red Riding Hood? Of course the Big Bad Wolf represents the Jewish threat trying to swallow up German youth! Rapunzel? For sure the sorcerer imprisoning Rapunzel is the Jews and all the horrors she inflicted on Rapunzel and her prince are the horrors inflicted by the Jews onto us, the good German folks!

That was how the Nazis view, shared and taught fairytales, and it was bad enough that it took a long time for people to clean the stories out of all those poisonous interpretations. As I said before - we might mock Bettelheim's psychanalytic/psychological interpretation today, but it was a needed step in the "healing" of fairytales in Europe, to show that they could be seen as something else than propaganda.

But there's a lot of very interesting and very useful things explained in this chapter of Zipes' book, and while I do advise you to not trust this book's take on French fairytales, do take more passion and interest and gain more curiosity for other chapters, such as this one. He explains so many things that do not seem obvious at first but clearly are when you think about it.

Like... How the fact that in the Grimm fairytales the villains are more human than supernatural greatly helped their rhetoric of "every fairytale is about the evil Jews". Indeed unlike the French or British or Italian fairytales the majority of villains in the Grimm stories aren't fairies or ogres or dragons or giants... But wicked humans (the evil step-family of Cinderella, the evil queen of Snow White) or supernatural beings that are close enough to the human world to be considered one (the dwarfs with this endless ambiguity of "Are they mythological dvergar or actual humans with dwarfism?" ; or the witches, who despite keeping remains of the ogres and wicked fairies they once were, are still supposed to be human women with magical powers or items...). It is something I never noticed, but it is true that of all the main "corpuses" of fairytales of Europe, the Grimm brothers' collection has the most humanized set of villains.

#jack zipes #fairy tales and the art of subversion #fairytale analysis #fairy tales #fairytales #fairytales during world war II #nazi fairytales #interpretation of fairytales #political fairytales #fairytales as propaganda #fairytale villains #history of fairytales #german fairytales

[badguysgalore]

My Two Cents on the Joker: My Love/Hate relationship with the Clown Prince of Crime

I think something we tend to forget in fandom is that you can like or dislike a character without liking or disliking everything about them. Before anything else said, I want to make this clear as crystal. This is my opinion. I am not saying it is right or that you have to agree. No one has to agree with me. All I ask is that you hear me out, acknowledge my opinion, and if you don't like it, agree to disagree. I fully respect the opinions of those who dislike/hate this character. Okay, let's talk about this frikkin' clown.

It is absolutely no surprise, to me or to anyone, that a lot of people LOATHE the Joker. And with good reason. He is a monster. In nearly every continuity he's in, he's done terrible things. He killed Jason Todd, paralyzed Barbara Gordon, abused and manipulated Harley, tormented and experimented on Tim Drake, turned Superman into a dictator, the list goes on. I understand why people hate him. Their reasons are valid, especially if they relate to his victims.

I myself have a love/hate relationship with the Joker.

Here's what I love about the Joker:

I love that he's Batman's opposite, a bright, loud, colorful clown.

I love that when written right, he can be scary AND funny.

I love his overall classic design. Purple suit, bow-tie, green hair, red lips, etc.

I love that he's deadly, as any Batman villain ought to be.

I love his genius-level intellect. Though, arguably, all the great Batman villains have that.

I love his weapons. Joker venom, acid-squirting flowers, ninja-star playing cards, etc.

I love the whole "Joker card as a calling card" shtick. To me, that never gets old.

I love how ruthless he is. Some of the best villains are ruthless.

I love his whole "agent of chaos" shtick.

I love the idea that he's a deadly maniac hiding behind the humorous image of a clown.

I love the fact that he's anti-nazi. Good to see he has some sort of standards, at least in one or two continuities.

I love his obsession with Batman and their rivalry.

Now here's what I hate about the Joker.

I hate that he has zero respect for anyone other than himself, or even if he does respect them, it's only as a means to an end. At the very least, he ought to have more respect for his allies.

I hate how he serves as a bad representation of mental health. I will not sugarcoat it or give it a pass. I have my own share of mental illnesses, so him serving as an example of the mentally ill? Terrible.

I hate the whole "Life's a Joke and only I know the punchline" shtick.

I hate the way he treated Harley. It was wrong then and it's wrong now. There's no hiding it, or excusing it.

I hate the growing amount of "edginess" the character has been given. He's a clown villain. At least half of his crimes should be nonsensical fun.

I hate how he treats the younger members of the Bat-Family. I know they're his enemies, but still.

I will never condone the Joker's actions, nor the actions of any villain. And again, I fully understand and acknowledge that my enjoyment of the Joker as a villain is unpopular. But I feel like I should be honest. At the end of the day, the Joker is one of my favorite villains. Do I like everything about him? No. But I don't have to.

#villains #opinions #dc comics #dc universe #batman #the joker #death mention tw #torture mention #torture mention tw #death mention #abuse tw #abuse cw #Yeah i like the joker as a bad guy and an antithesis to the hero #but i will never condone his actions #at least he's anti-nazi #i have a love hate relationship with this clown #i guess he's a guilty pleasure character #problematic fave #unpopular opinion #possibly unpopular opinion

[evilhorse]

Nightmares: they seem to strike Steve Rogers often!

(Captain America #185)

#captain america #steve rogers #batroc the leaper #georges batroc #baron zemo #helmut zemo #nazis #a.i.m. #nightmares #villains #doctor faustus #steve englehart #sal buscema #marvel comics #comics #70s comics #bronze age comics

[let-us-cultivate-our-garden]

Can I just say, I'm sick of people labeling all villains as "Nazis". It's one thing if there is a deliberate parallel drawn between the villain and Nazism (like Gul Dukat on Star Trek Deep Space Nine), but plenty of villains get called Nazis despite the source material never attempting to make that comparison. Belos is not a Nazi, he's a Puritan witch hunter. The Diamonds aren't Nazis, they're obsessive perfectionists and abusive family members. Et cetera.

The term "Nazi" as used in fandom spaces is basically short for "evil bad guy who oppresses/tries to kill everyone." Plus, it's a triggering word, especially with the rise of the alt-right but that means it's really important to not throw those kinds of words around randomly.

Just because your villain tries to commit genocide doesn't make them a Nazi; plenty of real world governments of every political stripe throughout history have already done that.

I would also blame pop culture's tendency to depict Nazis as just goose-stepping goons who want to kill everyone who don't agree with them and wear black and red. Without actually exploring what Nazi ideology is in media or school, it becomes much more difficult to spot lesser known traits in the real world.

Words have meaning, people.

#asks #fandom shenanigans #tw nazis #tw genocide #villains

[particlexxdealer]

Ava inviting Scott over to the Thunderbolts is like when a college professor brings their family dog to the classroom. Nothing gets done, but the serotonin in the room is increased by 45%.

#ooc #former villains and anti-heroes having a soft spot for scott will always be funny to me #when even a nazi bee man wants him as a friend but scott absolutely does not lmao