#man i love this question

[frevandrest]

do u have any info on Thèrése Gellé and SJ's relationship?

I have all the info there is! Which... is not much. What we know is that something likely did exist in terms of a romantic relationship in their teens (and maybe later, but that one is not proven). Some things could be extrapolated from little that we know, but we have only a few facts. What we know is the following:

Thérèse Gellé was born in 1766 in Blérancourt, as an illegitimate child of a local merchantess and a powerful royal notary Gellé. She was legitimized at 12, when her parents married each other.

SJ moved to Blérancourt at the age of 9. Thérèse was 10. We don't know when they met but since this was a super small community, I assume they knew each other (or at least, knew of each other) as kids.

At some point during their teen years, they seemed to have started a romantic relationship. There are no concrete sources for it except that it’s generally accepted that it happened. What we know is that in December 1785, they were godparents to a child in the village. Some historians see this as a sign that they were seen as a future married couple and chosen together because of this. I am not sure how sound this theory is, but I do think it’s interesting that they were chosen together.  Interestingly, most of the proof/sources for the relationship come from SJ’s early writing (namely, Organt and Arlequin-Diogène). While Thérèse is not mentioned by name, the context and certain (auto)biographical details that appear in these works strongly point out that the main female characters were based on her. (If anyone wants me to talk about what SJ’s writing (potentially) says of Thérèse and/or their relationship, I’d love to do that - I just have to do it in a different post because this one is getting super long). According to some, SJ asked Gellé for a permission to marry Thérèse and was refused. Not sure if this is true, but since SJ was 18 at the time and still in school, AND not particularly rich, it’s not surprising that Gellé wanted a more “prosperous” option for his daughter. 

Which brings us to 25 July 1786. While SJ was away at the boarding school,  Thérèse married Emmanuel Thorin, a young notary from a rich family. Historians agree that this marriage (done seemingly in a hurry) was specifically to prevent SJ from marrying her.

SJ graduated and returned from school a few weeks later, and he lost it. Reportedly, he had a huge fight with his mother (for not telling him that Thérèse was getting married? For not presenting him as a good option to Gellé?) Soon after, in early September 1786, he took that infamous silver and ran away to Paris. (I assume this episode is familiar. It resulted with his mother putting him in the correctional house where he stayed for six months, until early 1787). 

We don’t know what - if anything - happened between SJ and Thérèse after these events. What we do know is that the Revolution started and Gellé was a royalist who tried to stop revolutionary efforts in the village (he was the one who outed SJ as being too young to be elected for the Legislative Assembly in 1791). So yes, there was a lot of animosity between SJ and Gellé on the political grounds, but we don’t know anything about Thérèse during these years or how she might have reacted to all of this. 

But there is a significant event in summer 1793. On the 7th anniversary of her marriage, Thérèse left Thorin and went to Paris. She stayed in a hotel very close to SJ’s place. We know this because SJ’s friend, Victor Thuillier, wrote a much-quoted letter about it. In the letter, he informs SJ that the village believes that SJ had kidnapped Thérèse (not against her will?) and also gives SJ Thérèse’s address in Paris. To which SJ replied basically: “I have no idea what you’re talking about. Tell everyone (in the village) that it’s not true. I am very busy, bye”. (Not direct quotes - you can read more in the link above, though not sure if it’s the best way to translate these letters). 

Historians are divided over what happened. Those who are sympathetic towards SJ want to defend him against accusations of having an affair with a married woman, so they trust his word on it. Those unsympathetic towards SJ generally think that he lied and that he was totally behind Thérèse’s escape to Paris. But what I am more concerned about is how things worked form Thérèse’s POV. She left her husband, AND the village thought that it was because of SJ. This ruined her reputation beyond repair. Even if she did not cheat on Thorin, she was the one who was seen as leaving. 

As for SJ, nobody really talks about a possibility that he did help her, but not necessarily as a lover but as a friend - he wrote so much about protecting women from abuse and unwanted marriages that it wouldn’t be so impossible that he helped a childhood friend (tbh, it would be more shitty if he refused after writing so much about helping women). As for the affair... We don’t have any proof either way (except his reply to Thuillier). I disagree with historians who claim that “SJ would never”, because most of his writings actually point out that he was fine with women performing marital infidelity and the like. But this is not a proof either. So we just don’t know. 

Thérèse and Thorin had a divorce hearing in September 1793. Historians point out that the reason for the divorce they listed was not adultery, but Thorin didn’t seem to ask for a no-fault, mutual decision divorce either. He seemed to ask or a divorce based on the fact that she left him. In the hearing, Thérèse said that the divorce was mutually desired and she seemed to have asked for her dowry back. Their divorce was decided then, but they had to wait for about 11 months for it to become legal. They were legally divorced in July 1794 (18 days before Thermidor). 

That is basically it. We have no idea if SJ and Thérèse had any contact or what she did between this divorce hearing and Thermidor. We do know that she was kind of shunned in the village, while Thorin remarried and had children. Thérèse died in 1806, at the age of 39. 

There is one thing, written by SJ near Thermidor, that some people argue could be related to Thérèse, but there is absolutely no proof of it: that strange “story” about a lovers’ misunderstanding. It was the last item written in the notebook found on SJ during Thermidor, and it is super unusual because he left no other writing of this kind, but it’s impossible to say whether it has anything to do with  Thérèse or not.

#ask #anonymous #saint-just #therese gelle #frev #man i love this question #i love talking about therese

[jjian1002]

Chilchuck the struggling girl dad🥳

#dungeon meshi #delicious in dungeon #chilchuck tims #this man #scratches a special part of my brain #makes my inner goblin goes 👺👺👺 #I love meijack… she’s one of those kids asking the most difficult questions

[titsthedamnseason]

let’s take a moment to remember that this is the album taylor was writing while claiming she was “the happiest i’ve ever been in my entire life”…….ijbol

#the song was appropriate because i do in fact have many questions #but knowing she was thinking this because she actually convinced herself that rat man was the love of her life 💔 #taylor swift #mine

[megamindsupremacy]

You know, our natural assumption is that Peter Parker is just SO genius and crafty that at age 16 he developed a web formula in his high school chem class that even twenty years later teams of scientists can’t replicate with millions of dollars in supplies and equipment but like. No offense to Peter but no 16 year old in a high school chem lab could outsmart 20 years worth of technological process+the greatest chemists of their generation+millions of dollars in funding. My theory is that Peter’s formula is so basic (but ingenious!), using such shitty supplies and equipment, that no scientist worth their degree would even consider trying to replicate the formula with his methods. He accidentally took the Glass Onion route to outsmarting these guys which was “just go dumber” and it’s worked for literal decades

#mads posts #Peter Parker #spiderman #Spider-Man #like I love him but he cannot be that good! he’s a genius but not that genius! #Peter and his shitty bulk ordered chemicals + a half working Bunsen burner VS the entirety of Oscorp: who would win? #trick question it’s the 16 year old #containment breach

[s0fter-sin]

i need ghoap frantically making out against a door finally taking the leap on their feelings. need ghost grinding against soap, expecting to find him just as hard as him, only to feel nothing

and in all his wisdom and experience, he concludes soap was tortured and never told him

he’s trying to think of a delicate way to say he understands, that he’s been through it and it doesn’t change anything about how he feels (and who the fuck touched him so he can hunt them down and rend them limb from limb)

meanwhile trans!soap’s just trying to find the best angle to grind his cunt on ghost’s thigh

just it never even entering ghost’s head bc he’s never known a trans person but he has met plenty of people who’ve been tortured - himself included - so of course that’s his logical leap

soap takes off his shirt and he sees his top surgery scars and ghost asks if he wants him to kill the one who did it and soap just hums like, “actually, man did pretty good, they healed real well,” and ghost’s just teary-eyes with awe at how well he’s coping, “looking on the bright side, that’s my johnny.”

imagine he thinks johnny was fully castrated but sees he’s determined to still have a sex life with him so he buys packers and straps to help him bc hell yeah healing and soap’s just like, “holy shit i’ve never had such a thoughtful partner before, such a sweet man, lt.”

#he a little confused but he got the spirit #its so good bc it can be super angsty of ghost really dreading whats been done to his sergeant and trying to make it right #or just go full crack treated seriously and have fun with it #i love just completely oblivious ghost #in any military context hes the smartest guy in the room #he always knows the play and has more experience than anyone #but stick him in the normal world? man is Lost #ghost just thinks hes had some kind of reconstruction surgery after being tortured and accepts thats what johnny looks like #bc hes never seen a pussy before #it takes years for soap to actually come out to him bc he just never thought to #hes seen him naked theyve literally slept together what else is there for him to say #then he shows him like a family album or something and ghosts just like ‘why arent you in any of these i only see girls’ #and he just goes ‘hang on a second’ #soap gets one of his sporadic periods one night and panics a little thinking it would weird ghost out or remind him that hes not cis #but ghost just thinks its a normal part of such a thorough reconstruction that hed bleed sometimes #and doesnt question it when soap grabs a pad out of his drawer bc ‘thats such a good way of handling the discharge my johnnys so smart’ #just really supportive ghost for the wrong reasons #coming out of my cage and ive been doing just fine.txt #we’re a team. ghost team #soapghost #ghostsoap #simon ghost riley #ghost cod #john soap mactavish #soap cod

[beaulesbian]

Hobie Brown || Spider Punk - Spiderman: Across the Spider-Verse (2023)

"My name's Hobie, Hobie Brown. That is, when I'm not playing shows, antagonizing fascists, staging unpermitted political actions slash performance-art pieces, or having a laugh at the pub with the mandem. I'm not a role model. I was briefly a runway model. I hate the a.m. I hate the PM. I hate labels. I'm not a hero because calling yourself a hero makes you a self-mythologizing, narcissistic autocrat."

#i want to do some gifs but also the fast scenes like this one is almost better to see frame by frame. its so cool #his music literally changing the slogans on the buildings #from 'obey' and 'do not question' to -> 'freedom' and 'love each other' i love these details so much #hobie brown #spiderman #spider punk #across the spiderverse #atsv #mine #gif:spiderman #atsvedit #marveledit #spider man

[felsicveins]

John Dory's Final ex reveal!!!

It's Creek!

Wait, what's this?

It's Patty with the steel chair!!!

Meet Patty the Pain™!!! She's a professional wrestler rock troll! She and JD met at a party after a wrestling show and she basically said "I like you. You're going to be my boyfriend for a little while."

#comic soon to follow #trolls #trolls 3 #trolls band together #trolls oc #trolls oc patty #creek trolls #trolls creek #john dory #jd ex husband #why are a gay man and a lesbian dating? dont ask stupid questions #ill post all the asks telling me to make the final ex a woman soon #maybe shes friends with jackie ? : ) im like all lesbians should be friends ❤️ peas and love #IT WAS NEVER GONNA BE CREEK CJFJRJEHJCJEBDJCJDNWBKCJFBEJVKDNBDJVJRJEHD #patty with the steel chair .... mhm #more details to come i just really wanted to post that drawing of her

[sauriurius]

„I am a scorpio, he is a scorpio.“

„I dated a vegetarian once which was challenging.“

„I am not the most approachable human being.“

„If you want a salad with kidney beans, you go get some kidney beans.“

PLEASE never let this man stop talking, I have been cackling at this mans yapping for the last 24 hours

#tim minear you will have to pry lou ferrigno jr from my dead cold hands he needs to stay #that mans​ brain is the definition of adhd #this man really just be yapping #dating a vegetarian was a challenge I am CRYING #he is a scorpio I am a scorpio LOU??? #lou ferrigno jr listens to the question and then answers his own completely unrelated thoughts #911 abc #lou ferrigno jr #I love him #911 show #tommy kinard #kinkley #tevan #bi buck #bucktommy

[gunstellations]

a little family

#buddy daddies #my art #doodles #sometimes a family is an two misfit assassins and the daughter of the guy you offed and thats a okay #but lets not talk about that #we love healing in this house and how do you heal if not after suffering #reis journey through depression and kazukis journey through grief #what 1 little girl does to a man #its 5 am all i can offer are doodles but i love them very much #i know we do reasonably get to call them cowards for not making it gay (esp at the end bc come on) #but i do love whatever relationship they have going becuase theyre just. Thats marriage babe.... #theyre not going to be doing any dating with that committment that is the most domestic ass setting ive ever seen #everyone and their mother assumes theyre married/dating and doesnt even question it because theres NO QUESTION T O ASK #only the people involved apparently dont know theyre married #ok nvm they were cowards for not making it gay. but again. theyre clearly married your honor. theyre just a little stupid

[i-got-da-rubes]

“Thank you for asking what nobody else did.

What not even I considered.”

Drawn with my non-dominant hand.

#fucking gave up on the last frame but whatever #uh #dear the person I am addressing #you know who you are #love you platonically #but I’m not good at accepting your kindness or putting my thankfulness into words #so here we are!! #also sorry your hot pink #you seem like you like pink #and again thanks #for asking me if I’m okay #I hadn’t given myself time to ask that question #I appreciate you #okay soppy time over fuck you man #onto the other tags #disability month #happy disability pride month #disability pride month #disabilties #fibromyalgia #AMPS #ganglion cyst #tendonitis #damn I collect illnesses like trading cards #vent comic #but like in a positive way #art #digital art #comic #rubes art

[helsensm]

If you’re still taking requests, Mk1 Kung Lao meets Mk11 Kung Lao?

I will use this ask to finish the wip I had since November, thank you anon <3

#helsensm art #my asks #really like this mk11 mirror match intro he's so funny I love him #I was planning to add a few more kung lao but it got a bit crowded... #kung lao and his fuсking million hats #for some reason I have a strange hc that mk1 titan lao is... kinda a diсk?? ahahhssH #don't get me wrong he's a great keeper of time and a realm protector #loved and respected #got wiser with all the years #but he's “cut the bs” kinda guy and a man of action #not that patient and soft as liu kang #“punch first ask questions later” #kung lao #mortal kombat #mk11 #mortal kombat 11 #mk1 #mortal kombat 1 #mortal kombat legends #mortal kombat 2021 #mk2021 #revenant kung lao #titan kung lao

[kristiliqua]

etoiles hyping phil up at every chance he gets will never Not be funny to me

#my mans was just breaking cobblestone and etoiles was like 'HOOOOOOLY SHITT ⁉️⁉️⁉️' #'LOOK AT THIS !! LOOK AT THE APM !!' i was laughing so hard #i love etoiles sm you dont even KNOWWWW #i got so excited at the idea of him being in mcc I NEED IT SO BAD #qsmp etoiles #etoiles fanart #question mark .? debatable #qsmp #qsmp fanart #again . debatable #q!etoiles #qsmp philza #mcyt philza #philza mcyt #philza minecraft #philza #ph1lza #codebreakers #is that the tag for their duo . idek #codebreakerduo #i love them so so much <3333 #shitpost

[carnivalcarriondiscarded]

world's most annoying man is not allowed outside due to his inability to shut up

#AYYYY LIGHTS OUT IS BACK BABEY LETS GO #howdy is Suffering in this au ive come to realize #more so than i previously thought! #he's cooped up in a slightly too small shell of a building #rarely allowed outside bc hes too noisy </3 #mans is desperately Understimmed #wally isnt trying to be harsh hes just asking an honest & earnest question <3 #i have another scribble floating around somewhere of wally putting his hand over howdy's mouth and saying Hush #i think its a funny running joke. everyone is constantly like 'howdy please for the love of fuck. shut up' #he strikes me as the type to talk when nervous. and bored. and excited. hes a talker tell me im wrong #scribble salad #wh lights out au #welcome home au #hes BORED hes with the (objectively) Unfunniest neighbors hes BORED did i mention hes BORED #howdy: *stuffing pouring out of him after getting maimed* this is actually much better than being in the post office #frank: we're going to put you on a leash i swear to fucking god

[respectthepetty]

When Yuan asked Qian if he liked him, Qian started disconnecting. He closed his eyes.

He looked away and clenched his jaw.

Then Yuan placed his hand on Qian.

He slowly drew him back to the moment.

His touch made Qian come back to him.

When San Pang questioned Qian's feelings for Yuan on that couch, Qian looked away and avoided the question, but here, with the bracelet that Qian gave Yuan to remember their bond proudly placed on Yuan's wrist connecting them, Qian must face what is between them.

He must face Yuan.

He didn't do that last time.

But Yuan is making sure he does it now because regardless of the answer, Qian can't keep avoiding the question.

#unknown #unknown the series #I am unwell about Qian #he is my special boy #and he deserves to be loved by Yuan #now he just needs to let him #answer the question sir #and look him in his eye when you try to say it's nothing #face the man you love when you try to tell him you feel nothing #I didn't raise a liar

[arctixout]

I love full band Joker Out interviews bc they're like

Bojan: knows things, but also cannot shut the fuck up and ends up oversharing so 50-99% of what he says is just straight up bs because plans change (we don't mind tho). Somehow looks pretty and is in every interview unless literally at death's door or super busy.

Kris: knows things and cannot shut the fuck up 2.0 but instead of lies he just says the darnest things that ig are true but.... Kris for fuck's sake. (we don't actually mind about this either). Also there to keep Bojan's bs at a reasonable level.

Nace: chimes in once in a while, always looks handsome, put together and interested, actively listening. 10/10 no notes.

Jure: just happy to look cute on camera and lounge at the side.

Jan: pondering his orb unless spoken to. Happy to give a 50 minute academic lecture during a 30min interview if asked the right question.

#joker out #bojan cvjetićanin #kris guštin #nace jordan #jure maček #jan peteh #i love them all equally #but i also need a 2hr lone interview with jan like i wanna know!!!! what he thinks of!!!! #give that man time to answer the questions!!!!!!!! #bojan #*my post #kris #jure #nace #jan

[bizarreandjarring]

harrier if you didn’t want this to be romantic why did you wear your most boobylicious shirt ???

#answer the question harry #shoutout to alex brainrotdotorg for helping me with the dialogue options :3 #i haven’t been that active so i’m just like *drops this like a hot potato and runs from the room* #i think i’d pick 3 or 5 #man i STRUGGLED with this piece #i literally went to outback steakhouse and got a bloomin onion with a friend as research for this #i tried like 5 different versions before i got a drawing i didn’t despise #it’s been an uphill battle making this stupid fucking comic #i’m gonna cry myself to sleep now #my art #disco elysium #harry du bois #kim kitsuragi #oh also kim is drinking a dr pepper and harry is drinking a fancy juice. in case you were wondering #he loves juice. he’s just like me