#mad marinette

[theluckiestlb]

girl...WHEN??? WHERE????

what are you talking about???? when you kept him isolated for 14 years??? when you robbed him of bodily autonomy???? when you exposed him to his mother's corpse to akumatize him, TWICE????

wait, wait—OH you mean when he was terrified for his life, literally begging you to stop after you beat him up. my bad.

no? OH, you mean when you forced him to leave the country and the love of his life.

Huh.

#ml #miraculous ladybug #the math is not mathing #i'm sorry for the salt but this unacceptable I am BIG MAD #adrien agreste #gabriel agreste #ml spoilers #miraculous ladybug spoilers #ml recreation #ml recreation spoilers #nothing says love like a deprivation chamber #AND SHAME ON MARINETTE FOR DECIDING WHETHER ADRIEN SHOULD KNOW THE TRUTH OR NOT #STOP!! ROBBING!! HIM!! OF !! DECISIONS!!! #literally a mar stan till I die but smh at the writers #TWO WEEKS OF PANCAKE DON'T ERASE A LIFETIME OF ABUSE #ZAG DO BETTER #'the good father i tried to be' girl you are DELULU

[bigfatbreak]

Birds of a Feather

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#marinette dupain cheng #my art #feralnette au #birds of a feather #Ms. Mendeleiev #Mr. Damocles #lila rossi #why does mendeleiev favor marinette in this au you ask? #because mendeleiev is a science gay next question #also damocles is just projecting onto marinette gfhdfgdfg #hes like this child... must have the same issue i did... as when i was #mister owl... she must be thinking she can take on the world... ill steer her right!! #meanwhile marinette is holding paris up on her SHOULDERS #and yes chloe did come in clutch. im mad she doesn't show much in this chapter lol #but i have other lesbians to draw in this one

[miabrown007]

the summer after finishing university in New York, Marinette gets invited to a camping trip with Alya and Nino and his best friend. which, honestly, is for the best. at least she has more time than the four years she's already had to figure out how to reach out to her one-time superhero partner, with whom she fell out of touch after the reveal.

only, it's Adrien Agreste waiting for them on the meeting point, beaming so hard at her that it's blatantly obvious they know each other well. in her panic, what is Marinette supposed to tell Alya and Nino to protect their identites, if not that they used to date?

(fake exes AU x there was only one tent)

#miraculous ladybug #writing prompt #ladynoir #adrinette #if you thought fake-dating was ridiculous enough get ready for: fake exes!! #Adrien is sunshine. his lady!! he's so happy to see her again!!! but also she did kind of ghost him for years is she mad at him? #Marinette is dying inside. maybe this would be easier if she ever fell out of love with Chat Noir and not just dated for sport during her B #Alya doesn't understand how could her best friend hide a relationship all throughout highschool but she wants to know all about it! #Nino's pretty sure Adrien is still in love with Nette which makes everything so much more complicated. couldn't they just stargaze in peace #I'm clearly having a lot of thoughts about it but I also do not think this is getting written unfortunately #poor boy sitting in my drafts for a year now. someone liberate him!!

[zoe-oneesama]

Saw your post about Andre

What do u think about Zoe, then?

As a character, she's not bringing anything worth getting excited about. Personality wise, she's just Marinette-Pre-Origins: sweet and eager for friends, but ultimately letting her fear of Chloe rule her behavior until someone else reaches out, and now she suddenly has a spine. And I'm all for the idea of Marinette taking the lessons she learned in Origins about standing up for herself and not sitting by and letting injustices happen, and then turning around and inspiring someone else to do the same, so on paper, Marinette being that person for Zoe would be sweet and make sense. Except we have a full class of kids that she could've and should've already been that inspiration for, so this feel very Too Little Too Late.

And the few things they did to try and make Zoe unique didn't have enough thought or effort put into them so they fall flat.

So she got bullied out of her old school because she "was playing a part; being someone else" and when she dropped the act, "everyone turned against me". Um, yeah, if I found out my friend who'd I'd been confiding in and getting close to lied and faked their entire personality, I wouldn't want to be friends with them anymore either. I wouldn't go so far as to put cockroaches in their locker, but I can't blame Zoe's old "friends" for feeling betrayed.

(And let's be real, the writers definitely HAD to throw in the cockroaches thing so that Zoe actually had examples of being bullied instead of "no one wanted to be my friend anymore when they found out I was a totally different person")

So she's an actress, putting on different faces to please the people around her (clearly, she learned nothing from her previous experience - it's reasonable that people didn't like you because you lied, not because they didn't like who you really are). But then they didn't even keep up this 'acting' thing for more than one episode! Sure, she dusts it off in "Gabriel Agreste", but that entire aspect of Zoe's story is resolved as soon as it's introduced.

(Though it's obvious that the show is trying to convince you that her old friends DID turn on her JUST because they didn't like her as a goody-two shoes nice girl).

With Zoe putting on a fake persona, there could've been intrigue over the episode, or even the season, about who Zoe really is. Like, Marinette is SURE that Zoe is faking being like Chloe, but she has no way to know Zoe wasn't faking being nice to her when they first met. Why not show Zoe putting on different personas than just those two? Have Zoe interact with Juleka by being low energy and stand offish, then swapping to bubbly and energetic around Rose? Have Marinette be confused and that becomes part of the Mystery of Zoe?

And how about that contrivance, that Marinette met "nice" Zoe first and so is SOOOOO sure that Zoe is faking being "mean"? And because Marinette declares this To Be So, all of her friends just believe Marinette and are willing to give Zoe a chance. (despite not believing her about other things *cough* Lila *cough*) This is the same Marinette who's canonically declared her hatred of "liars" more than once, so even if Zoe is only "pretending" to be mean, why is Marinette giving her a pass? I'll tell you why - because we need to seamlessly integrate Zoe into the main friend group so we can speed run her taking over as the new Bee.

Because that's the main problem with Zoe - it's so blatantly obvious what the writers are trying to get out of her, because they don't even TRY to hide it. Don't get it twisted, I don't care that Zoe is brought in to replace Queen Bee, Queen Bee deserves to be replaced. I care how Zoe was brought in to replace Queen Bee. If the writers had taken enough time and care to ACTUALLY seamlessly integrate Zoe, instead of just shoving her in and bending the characters to accept her with no hesitation, then Zoe wouldn't come across as such a Mary Sue-Diet Marinette.

We already have a pretty full cast, so making the audience care about this new character that they've neither hinted at or bothered to build up to in Season 4 was already a big ask. Which is why I believe they should've stretched her "faking personas" story over several episodes. Have Marinette be as wary about Zoe as she was about Lila, esPECIALLY since she's Chloe's sister, but then have Zoe showcase her range of "personas" to throw Marinette off guard. Then you can have scenes of Zoe's mask slipping, like small acts of heroism where there's no time to think: pulling someone out of the way of an akuma attack, distracting the akuma if it gets too close to Ladybug, or even using her acting to help someone else get out of trouble despite Zoe getting nothing in return. Show the REAL Zoe through her actions DESPITE her acting, which then justifies Marinette being sure that "mean" Zoe isn't the real one.

Could've even had Chloe notice that Zoe's slipping and isn't acting very much "like a Bourgeois" and make it CHLOE who digs up that Zoe was bullied, make it CHLOE who airs out all the things that were done to Zoe. I mean, who better to call out a poser than Chloe? Especially since the rest of the class would more willing to take Zoe's side against Chloe (you would think) and it helps with the whole Zoe vs Chloe thing with the Bee Miraculous. Plus, having that information aired out when Zoe didn't want it to could've been a better reason to be akumatized than just "I'm giving in to playing the role I was already determined to play and putting my shoes in this hole with my dreams." Just saying.

But they didn't want to take the time. They didn't want to try. They didn't want to put in the effort to make Zoe someone to care about, both for the audience and for the characters. They shoved her in, gave her an exposition dump, and suddenly everyone was totally cool with her, No Questions Asked. In fairness, they didn't actually have Zoe be mean to anyone other than Marinette One Time in front of Chloe, so there wasn't much to overcome. But that's just another check in the "wow, you didn't even try" column.

I can't bring myself to care about Zoe because she's just a tool. She was brought in with the sole purpose of putting in nearly no effort to become friends with everyone and use the Bee Miraculous, as quickly as possible and as effortlessly as possible. Never mind that such a thing probably should have been earned. I just hate it when I can see the writer's intentions so blatantly.

But I get it, the Bee Miraculous is seriously OP and it'd be a shame not to use it just because Queen Bee was benched. Too bad Ladybug can't just merge Miraculouses and use it hersel- ohhhh, wait.

#it doesn't escape my notice that Vesperia seems to have more screen time than Zoe just saying #she's a tool she's a vessel so they can just use 'Venom' without having to bring in Queen Bee #WHO SHOULDN'T BE BROUGHT IN SO I'M NOT MAD ABOUT THAT PART #it's just like...try? Could they have tried? #Also it could've been a good way to confront Marinette's hatred of 'liars' to have Zoe pull off the 'Lila' thing #but doing so in order to protect herself instead of to gain favors and praise #zoe salt #writing salt #ml salt #my opinion #an essay by zoe

[wield-the-mighty-pen]

I know that everyone has gone crazy over the fact that Chat Celeste looks a lot like Chat Blanc

but guys...

can we take the time to acknowledge

that these happened on the same day?!

#the writers really looked at marinette and said #'we can fit so much trauma into this character' #poor girl is going through it #i know i keep going crazy about everything that has happened #in just one day #but in my defense #this day was....something alright #i think someone was really mad at marinette when they came up with the plot #for those 5 episodes and the special #chat celeste #i think that's his name? #miraculous ladybug #mlb #miraculous #ml #ml spoilers #miraculeakless #ml leak free #adrien agreste #marinette dupain cheng #ml strikeback #ml paris #ml paris special #ml paris spoilers #miraculous world #miraculous world paris

[piromina]

HELLO MIRACULOUS FANDOM

if u are part of the miraculous fandom PLS DO NOT SCROLL PAST THIS.

I'll try to keep this message short enough, but if you don't want to be really confused in season 6, READ THIS. (and yes there will be pictures)

Do you remember the episode Representation? Of course you do. It was probably one of the best episodes imo. We got some feligami, adrien fighting his father (only to end up in solitary confinement afterwards but forget that), and, of course, confirmation to a very popular fan theory.

HOWEVER. that fan theory is something I need to talk about.

Don't worry, yes, I still do believe that adrien, félix and kagami are all sentis, that is not what the purpose of this message is. Please keep reading.

do you remember him? yes. this is félix. impersonating his shitty father, colt. in this scene , 'colt' is using the peacock miraculous to create a son.

in this scene, the amok is very clearly going into the ring félix has on at all times.

But what, in the entire representation play, has not been shown once?

Émelie using the peacock. Émelie putting the amok into Adrien's rings. Émelie creating a son.

This play is Félix's story, not Adrien's.

Yes, adrien is a sentimonster, but that was never shown here once. Yes, there were peacock feathers in the background of Émelie being pregnant, and yes, Gabriel called Adrien a miracle.

But those were just hints for the audience.

In this scene, here is what 'Gabriel' was saying.

After much study, I have discovered a solution for you and your wife.

This is making it sound like he has just now discovered the peacock miraculous. We as the audience, of course, know that he's lying.

But who was this play meant for, other than us as the all-knowing viewers?

Marinette Dupain-Cheng. The only in-universe audience member. And let's not forget that this is her very first exposure to the Agreste and Graham de Vanily family history and the senti lore. She doesn't know what we do.

Marinette, upon hearing Gabriel's lie, had no reason to believe he or émelie used the peacock to create Adrien. Marinette, upon hearing Gabriel's lie, had no reason to believe that after Colt created félix, he stole back the peacock miraculous. Marinette, upon watching this play, had no reason to believe that Adrien is a sentimonster, or that the Graham de Vanily rings are significant in any way.

"But then why did she give them back to Adrien?" It's what would have made him happy. It's what Gabriel wanted. It's the last thing she could find in there that Gabriel owned. It's the last known piece of the Agreste family.

Marinette Dupain-Cheng has no reason to believe that Émelie used the peacock. In fact, Émelie only appears in this play four times, once as the curious princess, once living a bohemian life with the tailor, once being pregnant, and once giving birth.

And the Graham de Vanily rings? Only when her parents attached them to her necklace, and then as she was getting married! Marinette thinks those are just simple wedding bands, like her parents'!

And now, to recap, this is what everyone knows:

Us, the viewers:

Adrien, Félix, and Kagami are sentimonsters. Gabriel found the miraculous while in Tibet, along with the butterfly. Then, he gave it to Émelie, and she used it to create Adrien, putting the amok in the wedding bands. Afterwards, Gabriel gave the miraculous to Colt, who made Félix, as shown in the play. And, somehow, the peacock found its way over to Kagami's family (possibly her father?) who used it to create her, and put the amok in the ring she wears.

Marinette:

Félix is a sentimonster. Gabriel found the miraculous somewhere (probably Tibet, as that's where it was lost, possibly along with the butterfly). Then, he gave it to Colt in an act of sympathy (strange, those must have been nicer times), but of course not without making a trade. Afterwards, Colt used the peacock to create Félix, and then somehow Gabriel got it back and used it to become Shadowmoth.

Marinette doesn't know that Adrien is a sentimonster.

Reblog to spread the word.

#Okay in retrospect she COULD know that kagami is one #'a girl like him' #but she could also easily chalk it up to them both being socially awkward #Anyway! Please reblog this! I feel like everyones misinterpreting this play #and getting what WE know mixed up with whatever MARINETTE knows and was told #Not that im mad at you! I just want to make this possibility known so that no ones confused when #ml season 6 #comes out #hopefully this reaches the entire fandom #miraculous ladybug #ml #ml analysis #felix fathom #felix graham de vanily #colt fathom #Gabriel agreste #marinette dupain cheng #kagami tsuguri #adrien agreste #ml s6 #pirorambles

[familyagrestefanblog]

Someday, I swear, someday...

Someday I will write down why not just the story of Cinderella but especially the dynamic between Cinderella, her evil stepmother and stepsisters is one of the most important stories that has lasted thousands of years for a VERY GOOD REASON

Not just regarding child abuse, feminist literature and literature of female (coded) life experiences

But one of the most important stories PERIOD.

SOMEDAY I will fucking explain why Adrien and Gabriel are a brilliant and extremely important depiction of that story, and a phenomenal gender swapped variation of it for modern feminist story-telling that is very much breaking some grounds. If only Marinette's own girlboss 'knight in shining armor' narrative wouldn't constantly undermine that, making them seem "lesser" bc Adrien is "just" her little damsel she will save "easily" because we can't allow for her to be seen as anything else but one of the "STRONG" modern female heros.

SOMEDAY I will explain why Cinderella and Lady Tremaine are NOT fucking jokes and outdated female (coded) archetypes to be laughed at for how "weak and backwards" they are, but if well utilized one of the most raw and gut-wrenching archetypes of the non-romantic interplay of love vs hatred that grabs you by the most intimit connection a human can have and potentially breaks down the very root of who you are and why.

I will fucking explain why despite how misogynistic our society is, Cinderella and Lady Tremaine are still one of the most iconic protagonist and villain pairs in all of fiction and will continue doing so for many ages to come.

Why Cinderella, no matter how much society will tear her down, will never stop rising from her ashes victoriously. And why Lady Tremaine, no matter how underutilized and slandered she's depicted, will never ever stop dominating 99% of any other villain she's put against.

Both entirely without special powers, status, or whatever. Just through their very presence and dynamic.

I swear to God this fandom...

#keeping up with the agrestes #Sexism in ml #And it's Fandom #The Cinderella story #Cinderella and Lady Tremaine are NOT an insignificant little trope #It speaks for how misogynistic our society is that while Lady Tremaine is still one of the most iconic villains of all time #She's STILL horrifically underutilized in her potential #Just like Cinderella #The Disney remake is actually the closest version to perfection I've seen yet and THIS one remake I 100% support #It's by far the best one #And holy SHIT that Lady Tremaine was phenomenally utilized #And I'm so MAD that Adrien and Gabriel are such an amazing depiction of this #But Miraculous own girlboss narrative for Marinette actively works AGAINST it #miraculous ladybug #miraculous #adrien agreste #gabriel agreste #ml fandom critical

[rozunderpressure]

Future fic where Adrien disappears, transitions while she is away, and when she comes back, everybody at the school reunion treats her horribly because they think she's Chloé.

Extra points if they treat Chloé great because her style is so rich AF butch lesbian now that everybody thinks she is Adrien.

#miraculous ladybug #Trans headcanon #trans adrien agreste #future fic #future fic prompts #Combo extra points if Marinette hits on Chloé and Kim is all over Adrienne #Chloé can also have transitioned if you want that's cool to #Sabrina knows and tries to stop the madness but Zoe and Nino who also know are like ''No no... Lets see where this goes...'' #Too amused by all of this!

[zaaaras]

i love her so much it destroys my little marinette lover heart to see her so anxious like this was season 4 finale level of anxious but oh my god LOOK!!!how far she’s come LOOK AT HER she can stand up to chloe She can come up with plans and everything has made her a better ladybug AND a better marinette im SO PROIUD OF HERR ☹️☹️

AND THIS GUY TOO!!!

the patience he has with her Especially compared to his what his father just tried doing is so nice to see Being someone with anxiety as bad as marinettes almost everyday seeing adrien be so patient with her is really really nice to see 🫶🫶 I LOVE THIS SHOWEWWW IM SO PROUD OF BOTH OF THEM

#miraculous ladybug #ml #miraculous #ml spoilers #ml s5 #ml s5 spoilers #marinette dupain cheng #adrien agreste #adrienette #ml derision #derision spoilers #ml analysis #ml derision spoilers #hawk moth #the bitchass fucking OOUURRGGH HE MADE ME SO MAD #i also miss fanon chloe redemption #chloe bourgeois #the woman you could’ve been

[iwasbored777]

This end card is so hilarious "how dare my son be a slut this can't be happening I'm the only one allowed to be a slut in this family"

#He's so mad at Adrienette he's every Adrienette anti now #miraculous ladybug #marinette dupain cheng #adrien agreste #Adrienette #Gabriel Agreste #Ml emotion

[theluckiestlb]

#ml #miraculous ladybug #ladynoir #meme #can you tell I'm still mad lmao #gabriel agreste #adrien agreste #marinette dupain cheng #ml spoilers #miraculous ladybug spoilers #ml recreation #ml recreation spoilers

[xhanisai]

the only thing i’ll accept from the whole ass miraculous team’s presence is that of them growing taller and taller whilst ladybug stays the same height throughout so she’s just an itty bitty buggy leader

#ml spoilers #ml recreation #ml recreation spoilers #THAT IS THE ONLY REASON WHY I WILL TOLERATE THEIR PRESENCE (save for renacara ofc ofc i love you ninoalya) #but yes yes i like to torture marinette so keep her TINY and away from the top shelves #her chaton who's gonna be the tallest in the team (COS I SAID SO) can reach the stuff for her and she will pout and forever be mad until he #kisses her <33333

[blueberry-macaron]

Not Adrien stans being angry because he rightfully apologized for his bs advice to Marinette back in Chameleon. Hard to believe that Adrien „I have no experience with social intercations I‘m just a sunshine bby uwu“ Agreste might have misjudged the situation back then, huh?

#ml salt #adrien salt #shit adrien stans say #and some are so dramatic about it #like idk why is Adrien making a mistake the end of the world for them? #maybe because Marinette was the one who suffered the consequences so it doesn‘t matter #that made me a little mad ngl

[feelingtheaster99]

Marinette Dupain-Cheng deserves like an EPISODE LENGTH apology from the whole class for not believing her about Lila

Honestly especially Alya for constantly GASLIGHTING her about Marinette’s dislike and disbelief of Lila purely stemming from jealousy when the WRITING WAS ON THE WALL

#full disclosure #I did not finish season 5 so I am unsure about this #but I don’t believe ANYONE even apoligizes to her for a second #this whole Lila plot literally makes my blood boil #because it makes no sense whatsoever #and I know it’s a kids show but that doesn’t mean I can’t be mad about giant plot holes and poor choices for characters #cause Alya is supposed to be her best friend #the person she trusts with her secret identity before anyone else #and Alya is a either a TERRIBLE and/or a STUPID friend to Marinette when it comes to Lila #like you believe that Marinette didn’t steal or cheat or push Lila down the steps #but you don’t believe Lila is lying??? #and you know marinette is LITERALLY Ladybug but you don’t question Lila saying Ladybug is her best friend??? #make it make sense #alya cesaire #marinette dupain cheng #miraculous ladybug #miraculous class salt #THE SCENE IN WHICH ALYA AND NINO DENY BOTH MARINETTE AND ADRIEN ARE TELLING THE TRUTH BECAUSE ADRIEN IS “too in love makes me so mad #lila rossi #mlb #miraculous season 5 #ml revelation #ml class salt #ml salt #Alya should have an episode length apology to marinette like by HERSELF #the LYING DISEASE plot hole also grinds my gears #makes zero sense

[mrplushgore]

That meme going around, but I have too many characters to choose from.😋

Mariska (Lollipop Chainsaw) and Tricky the Clown (Madness Combat)

Hange Zoe (Attack on Titan) and Mario

Marinette Dupain-Cheng (Miraculous) and Sonic

Scratch and Grounder (Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog)

#traditional art #fanart #marinette dupain cheng #marinette #miraculous ladybug #miraculous #mlb #ml #miraculous fanart #mlb fanart #i think we're gonna have to kill this guy #tricky the clown #madness combat #sonic the hedgehog #aosth sonic #hange zoë #hange zoe #hanji zoe #hanji zoë #attack on titan #super mario #scratch and grounder #adventures of sonic the hedgehog #mariska #lollipop chainsaw #madness combat fanart #attack on titan fanart

[wield-the-mighty-pen]

To clarify, this does not mean your favorite episode, but rather, your favorite episode of this ship. Because this had to be whittled down so much to fit into the amount of spaces available for a poll, this doesn't include every Adrinette episode, so feel free to click other and put your episode in the tags!

This is for the purpose of satisfying my curiosity of ship trends in ml, so please share for a larger sample size!

Ladynoir Poll

#this one was also super painful #theres so much good adrinette #please dont be mad at me for not including your favorite #im very fragile 🥺 #and trust me #i really wanted to include so many more #but alas #the tumblr 12 option maximum #miraculous ladybug #mlb #miraculous #ml #adrien agreste #marinette dupain cheng #ml poll #poll #adrinette #adrienette