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marzipanandminutiae · 6 months
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Can I ask some random headcanons for our blorbo(lucille, obviously) for no reason?
Does she keep a diary? What's inside it? How many hours does she usually sleep a day? In modern AU, what's her favorite movie or theatrical piece? What are some significant objects in her room, other than what we already saw in the movie(like butterflies, books, wood carved animals)?
Sure!
I don't think she keeps a diary, but I can see her writing out her whole sad, sordid life story over and over, tearing it up each time, and scattering the pieces to the winds. A la the movie Byzantium. Because she can't tell anyone. She can't even tell Thomas everything; that wouldn't be Shielding Him from the worst of her pain and darkness (how well does she actually do that otherwise? shhhh). So she gives her story to the howling winter tempest instead.
On a good day, eight. On a bad day- and they are not infrequent -two if she's lucky. I don't think she slept at all the night Edith and Thomas were at the depot.
Modern-day favorite movie...not sure I've seen enough movies to say! I definitely don't think she's a horror fan, though the more lyrical side of the Gothic might appeal. She's seen enough horror in the real world, thank you very much. Something beautiful and sad- weirdly, I can see her enjoying Titanic or something similar. Thomas (and Edith, in OT3) is totally baffled by this. Meanwhile Lucille just doesn't understand why such a bittersweet tragedy about True Love has the reputation it does.
Significant objects in her room? You covered a lot of the bases, I think! I can see her having a very fantastical jewelry-box made by Thomas, though. Are there like four items in it? Maybe. But that's not the point. She deserves things like this, in his mind- beautiful, exceptional things to make her happy after so much darkness.
(the novelization version of her room, with definitely-not-in-the-movie preserved animal fetuses, and witchcraft paraphenalia from all over the world- the actress said she doesn't believe in ghosts; why would she have any interest in that? -can fuck off)
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Hi Marzi! Hope you're doing well.
I've had some questions about CPeak for some time. And i was just wondering what you'd think about them!
1. When the police found Beatrice murdered, they didn't seem to suspect Lucille because she was just a child then. So why was she sent to the assylum? Is it because no one volunteered to take care of her, and she had nowhere else to go?
2. Lucille was pregnant when Thomas was married to Enola. That was 1896, so Lucille was 31 then. Do you think it was her fist pregnancy? I mean, it's probably been over 10 years since they've been sleeping with each other. Do you think they've ever tried some kind of contraception?
3. What do you think the villagers' opinion on the Sharpes would be? Allerdale is probably the largest house in the region so everyone would know who the Sharpes are. And both Thomas and Lucille seem to regularly visit the village. Do you think the villagers ever suspected the Sharpes? (Especially about Thomas having multiple wives. And also Beatrice's death.)
And as far as i know, not going to church was considered unacceptable at that time. The Sharpes don't seem to go. Edith went to church when she was in America. So what would've Edith thought about that? And the villagers?
Happy to offer my thoughts!
I have two theories about how Lucille ended up in the asylum. The first- and what I think the movie meant to imply -was that the police did figure out that she'd killed Beatrice. There was a public story about her going to a convent school to save the family's reputation, while she was in fact institutionalized.
My second theory is that the authorities didn't work out the truth and released her to the same aunt and uncle in Whitehaven that Thomas spent his school holidays with- but they either suspected her guilt or simply found her inconvenient to deal with, and packed her off to a mental hospital. (Which, either way, I imagine to be the most disreputable sort of charity hospital- decent asylums DID exist back then, with doctors genuinely trying to help their patients, but those tended to be for people with money.)
2. Again, a few options here as I see it:
It was her first pregnancy that got far enough to be noticed, possibly because she's just biologically inclined to be less fertile (or Thomas has a low sperm count, or whatever).
She'd been terminating them before, but this was the first one Thomas actually noticed. And his excitement + her desire to be a mother despite thinking it was a bad idea convinced her to carry to term this time.
They had been using some kind of contraception, which failed (probably anything they had access to would be far less effective than modern options, and state-of-the-art contraception for 1896 would have been beyond their means).
I definitely suspect she terminated any subsequent pregnancies, though- and given period abortion methods and her lack of medical training beyond first aid and kitchen chemistry, it's a miracle she didn't die.
3. The bios sort of answer this one! Apparently the children were allowed out a bit more before their father's death, and though the family on the whole didn't mix with the villagers, they apparently found Thomas charming and Lucille polite but cold. The article about Beatrice's death, in the movie, mentions that people sometimes saw Lucille riding her pony (?!) around the hills near the house. As adults, the siblings seem disinclined to give a damn what anyone they don't need anything from thinks of them. So the villagers might well find them both incredibly sketchy- they just don't care.
(That said, I'm not sure their behavior would raise too many red flags if they weren't around much. Thomas is actively charismatic and likeable, and even Lucille is well-mannered- being well-mannered but aloof and very Proper would hardly have seemed unusual for a thirtysomething aristocratic spinster back then.)
(They don't know that he was psyched to have gotten his sister pregnant, or that she thinks seldom blinking makes her seem more normal.)
As for going to church, yes, it was expected of the well-to-do in both the US and UK back then. But again...the Sharpes give nary a damn what's expected. It seems their parents barely did, and that's when the family still had some fortune to lose. Easy enough to plead inability to attend- the Baronet is away on business; Lady Sharpe is in delicate health. The children could scarcely go on their own, after all. The villagers might have thought it odd, but they're still just villagers. Their opinions were of no consequence to nobility.
As for the adult occupants of Allerdale Hall in 1901...I'd be very surprised if any of them were particularly religious. Even Edith, who both grew up going to church and knows for a fact that there is life after death, doesn't really seem the type to me. I doubt she thinks about it much, really.
And the siblings have no reason to venerate a god who seemingly heard years of their desperate prayers and did nothing.
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marzipanandminutiae · 10 months
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16, 17, 27, 29 & Lucille and Thomas for the ask game!
16. A childhood headcanon
Lucille: badgered one of the more sympathetic maids into piercing her ears for her when she was seven, after she found some stunning Georgian earrings in the attic and became determined to wear them. they ended up being too heavy for her, but the maid brought her smaller, red glass bead earrings as a consolation prize
Thomas: used to go down to the house's sheepfold and whittle little wooden lambs for hours on end. he ended up with quite the flock, and even built a barn to house them in
17. What do you think their first word was?
Lucille: "milk" (probably said around her a lot, as a baby and a toddler. since they tend to consume a lot of that. I imagine she had a wet-nurse, and it's canon that Thomas did)
Thomas: This is unlikely given which sounds babies tend to master first, but screw it- "Lucille." Making it his first and last word. Pass the tissues, please.
27. If they could meet a character from another show/movie/etc, who would be the most fun for them to meet?
Lucille: I want her to meet Annabel Mama2013, just for the amusement of "why does SHE have my face?!" One gets the feeling Annabel wouldn't be unsympathetic, if she knew the full story, but she would think Lucille needs to chill the fuck out. Direct quote.
Thomas: Milo Thatch. Nerds together! Big Victwardian nerd boys being big Victwardian nerds!
29. How do you think they would be as a parent? (and if they are a parent, how do you think they would be if they weren’t?)
Lucille: the parent who gets the kid to bed on time, sees that they eat nutritious meals, does laundry, remembers appointments, etc. but also the child is lightly terrified of her- not that she'd hurt them, but more because she has all the warmth of a glacier.
Thomas: the parent all the kids love, but who would also let them eat ice cream for dinner and stay up until the wee hours because "they were just having so much fun!"
Together they make one reasonably functional parent.
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Could you please do every questions from the ask game for Lucille? Sorry i couldn't choose! All of the questions seemed so interesting 🤣
My first impression of them
I think I just considered her a straightforward Evil Girlboss. But it took me forever to Blorbo these characters, though I saw the movie in theatres and loved it from the start. I definitely loved her costumes from the beginning; I recall that much.
When I think I truly started to like them (or dislike them, if you’ve sent me a character I don’t like)
April 2021. I was at home after my second COVID vaccine dose, realized the movie was on Netflix, watched it- and fell down the rabbit hole, hard.
The vaccine doesn't give you 5G blood or heart failure, it turns out- just makes you stan fictional thirtysomething incestuous murderesses. Bill Gates must be playing a REALLY long game.
A song that reminds me of them
Oh god, so many. But for now, I'll go with...Stolen Roses, by Karen Ellison. "And the weeds in the ground have grew up through my skin/Forsaking a lonesome girl's heart/I'd go where the stolen roses grow/To forget that I had fell apart."
How many people I ship them with
Two! Edith and Thomas.
My favorite ship of them
OT3- Edith/Thomas/Lucille. Any individual leg of the triad involving her is interesting to me, too.
My least favorite ship of them
Lucille/Alan. Like. Why? They exchange like five sentences that we see onscreen- two of those in a deleted scene -and then she tries to kill him. Hardly true love, in my opinion.
A quote of them that you remember
She has like 75% of the iconic quotes in that movie. So instead, I'll point out that all three instances of swearing in the movie are her- AND canonically within like an hour of each other. #RefinedProperLady indeed.
Your favorite outfit of them
Her blue or black dress! I suspect they're the same pattern- at least, I hope for the stitchers' sake that they were.
Your least favorite outfit of them
Much as it pains me to say this...her red dress. I love all of her outfits, but the collar and the weird hoodie-looking faux drawstrings on this one push it to the end of the list. I am so sorry.
Describe the character in one sentence
Someone who hit rock bottom only by slipping through every possible crack in her childhood/adolescence.
What’s the first thing you think about when thinking about the character?
Love and pragmatism.
Sexuality hc!
Hear me out: I think she's a lesbian who will never realize that about herself. Jessica Chastain said her "fantasies are more about women than men," and let's be honest- how much is her whole Situation with Thomas about attraction as normal adults understand it, and how much about devotion, trauma bonding, general uncategorized Love, and physical pleasure/comfort?
She loves Thomas. She likes having sex with him for the physical sensation and the mental associations. And she'll never be attracted to another man, so she'll never realize that it's Different from the way she feels about other women.
Your favorite friendship they have
Friend...ship? I think she knows the definition of the word, and that's about it.
Best storyline they had
There is only one.
Worst storyline they had
See above.
A childhood headcanon
When she turned ten, Lucille received her first and only doll: a wooden 18th-century lady that Thomas found in the attic trunk-room and fixed up for her in secret. This doll's name was Sophia, and she was treasured as few dolls have ever been.
What do you think their first word was?
Given her childhood, probably something nobody noticed or cared about. Or even bemoaned, in a "little girls should be seen and not heard, and now the tiresome thing won't ever give us any peace again" vein.
How do you think they were as a kid? (Like, were they shy, noisy, wild, etc)
We know from the character bios and the newspaper article about Beatrice's death how she was as a kid: curious, quiet, intelligent, brave, coldly polite to most people, and eternally self-sacrificing for her brother. Not yet as broken as she would one day be, but increasingly cracked as the years passed.
The most random ship you’ve seen people have with them
Lucille/Dracula. I have no idea.
A weird headcanon
She finds April Fool's Day extremely tiresome (spoiler: this is because it's her birthday).
When do you think they were at their happiest?
Weirdly, per the bios, the canon answer is "when she was pregnant with Thomas' child." She got to just be at home relaxing with her piano and her butterflies and her increasingly esoteric poetry about her and Thomas' Ultimate, Predestined, Celestially Perfect Union.
I'd say three-way tie between that, the time when she was a young child and Thomas a toddler and their nurse Theresa actually loved them, and the post-asylum period where she'd healed significantly and she and Thomas had free rein of the house but the money hadn't run dangerously low yet.
When do you think they were at their lowest?
After her son died.
Future headcanon
Based on the actual movie ending? She'll continue haunting Allerdale until it collapses, and then...who knows?
In my happier imaginings? Canon diverges before Edith gets too ill, and they all end up in a happy (if deeply unhealthy) triad together.
What do you think is a secret they have that they never told anyone?
There were more pregnancies after the first one. She ended them with herbal abortifacients the day she realized, every time, believing she could never bring a healthy baby into the world.
When do you think they acted the most ooc
It's not something she does onscreen, but Thomas' wives ring fingers are in the drawer along with their locks of hair. I don't see someone as fastidious as Lucille particularly enjoying the smells, staining, and visuals of severed limbs rotting in a heated room that would come before they ended up all neatly mummified as they appear to be in the movie.
When do you think they were being “themselves” the most?
When she was showing Edith around the library.
I think murder is something she does, but her interests and her devotion to Thomas are who she is. She doesn't want to be killing people- she doesn't regret it or feel guilty; assuming that would be woobifying. She just hates the necessity of it. She wants to be at home with her books and her butterflies and her piano, being a good sister-wife to Thomas and a good mistress to the house. And I think that's significant.
If they could meet a character from another show/movie/etc, who would be the most fun for them to meet?
I wonder what GDT Pinocchio Death would make of her?
The most unnecessary thing they ever did?
Y U Kill Dog?
How do you think they would be as a parent? (and if they are a parent, how do you think they would be if they weren’t?)
(She is, but her son is dead.)
I think the Sharpes together make one decent babysitter.
With Lucille alone, you get the kid fed nutritious meals, bathed, and put to bed on time after a suitable period spent in quiet play or practicing a skill- but they're lightly terrified of putting a toe wrong.
With Thomas, you get the kid having the time of their life- but they haven't showered in three days, they're covered in glitter-glue, and their last five meals were bowls of Lucky Charms.
Unless of course the kid happens to be running from a situation they'd find all too familiar, in an OT3 setup- but that's just an existing, very fleshed-out OC I'm trying frantically to work into a story someday. We'll see if she makes it.
The funniest scene they had?
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marzipanandminutiae · 2 years
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hey all
just had a mix-up with a slightly contentious anon message that I will not be answering, but I want to clarify:
I am not @lucillesharpeismybaby and her dolls are not mine! I merely admire them- we actually live on opposite sides of the world.
and now, back to our regularly scheduled programming
UPDATE: they did not intend to be rude! sorry for misunderstanding your tone, Anon!
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@ recent anon
not publishing your ask because it had your email, but I am not the proprietor of Cuttle and Bone on Etsy. I'm flattered to be mistaken for her, though! she's a props artist out of the UK, I believe
you can find her on Instagram at the same username (cuttleandbone) and direct your inquiries about further runs of the Crimson Peak hand belt there
best of luck! I do hope she makes more soon, so more people can join the Hand Belt Army
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marzipanandminutiae · 9 months
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So I arrived home a few days ago to a little pink slip from the post office in my mailbox. It informed me that there was a package for me waiting to be picked up, from “Korea”
As in, that’s what they wrote for the sender name. As if the entire nation of South Korea had decided to send me a gift. How kind of them
I went to pick it up today, and it seems to be something from the company Waxworks LPs. I wonder what?
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Oh, there’s a little packet taped to the back! Let’s take that off and see what’s inside
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TRASH FIRE DARLING!
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Lovely little cards ft. Blorbos and Doll-Form Blorbos! It’s possible you can guess who this package came from now
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Yes, it’s the CPeak soundtrack LP! The cover art is really really cool. Everyone please thank Jake for packing it (thank you Jake!)
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The actual disc looks really really cool. I believe they call this design “ice and red clay,“ very thematically appropriate. I’ve handled records perhaps once or twice in my life before – really showing my millennial status there – but I was very careful not to touch the center. I believe that’s a tenet of proper vinyl maintenance?
So there you have it! A lovely gift from my friend @lucillesharpeismybaby (and further proof that we are not, in fact, the same person as some people have surmised from our shared interests – I wish I had her doll styling and photography skills!)
I guess now I need to get a record player. Does anyone know where to find vinyl – playing models that look like old gramophones?
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marzipanandminutiae · 2 years
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Amuse me for thomas and lucille!
The attics were full of rubbish.
Everyone knew it. The maids didn't dust outside their own cubbyhole rooms, and the housekeeper never even ventured onto the third floor. Nothing lived up there but moths, and the forgotten refuse of a dozen Sharpe generations.
(And the children, of course. But they hardly bore mentioning.)
The curious thing about base metal, though, is that alchemists may transmute it into gold.
Golden flakes from long-neglected murals, that periodically fell to the floor like outcast angels. Golden paint coaxed from discarded tubes at the back of a schoolroom drawer. Golden thread carefully worked loose from the upholstery of a rotting sofa.
So much gold, Thomas thought as he presented a little model butterfly with the air of a royal tribute, for a smile that outshone it all.
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marzipanandminutiae · 2 years
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The sharpes for the ship game
who is more likely to hurt the other?
Hoo boy. This one has the potential for a world of emotional hurt, and all entirely unintended. Through what's left unsaid or undone, these two can hurt each other in a myriad ways and they will NEVER talk any of it out with each other. Oh, the Gothick tragedy of it all.
But we've seen that one of them can be pushed to physically hurt the other, and said "other" won't even do so in self-defense, so. Let's go with Lucille, even though she felt Very Bad about it afterwards.
(Until she shifted the blame onto Edith.)
who is emotionally stronger?
I mean...they're neither of them bastions of emotional strength.
I think Lucille is able to endure more psychological abuse without breaking, but Thomas is more emotionally resilient.
He could live without her, though he'd be heartbroken. As for her- well, I don't think she intended to survive her encounter with Edith. Even if she'd won.
who is physically stronger?
Lucille. He's taller, but she has that whole Terminator, powering-through-intense-pain thing.
who is more likely to break a bone? 
Lucille is more likely to be in situations that could result in broken bones, so I suppose it's her. Although if Thomas keeps up that recklessness around his machine that got him burned, who knows?
who knows best what to say to upset the other? 
I don't think they'd ever upset each other on purpose. Lucille's better at manipulation, though she'd resist seeing it that way.
who is most likely to apologise first after an argument? 
Thomas. Sometimes because he genuinely thinks he's wrong; sometimes because he just wants to avoid Unpleasantness.
who treats whose wounds more often? 
Historically, Lucille has gotten wounded more, so I'll go with Thomas.
who is in constant need of comfort? 
You know how sometimes cats act completely aloof and nonchalant while twining around your legs, blocking your computer screen, and in all ways generally demanding Affection while pretending they aren't?
Lucille.
who gets more jealous? 
I mean, we have a canon answer to this one. Although we never got the chance to see jealous Thomas, he sort of seems to want Lucille and Edith to at least be friends.
who’s most likely to walk out on the other? 
I can't see that ever happening.
who will propose? 
Nobody. Why would they need to have a wedding? "My brother/sister" already means to them exactly what "my husband/wife" means to most people, and more.
who has the most difficult parents?
The "same hat" meme, but it's "same parents."
who initiates hand-holding when they’re out in public? 
They don't walk hand-in-hand in public. It would attract attention. But the occasionaly affectionate hand-clasp is acceptable to Victwardian sensibilities re: sibling relationships, and Thomas always initiates that. Lucille doesn't like PDA, possibly because she's paranoid about anyone guessing their secret.
who comes up for the other all the time? 
I don't understand the question, I'm afraid.
who hogs the blankets? 
Lucille, and it's a good thing, too. If it were Thomas, she'd just lie there and shiver rather than take them back.
who gets more sad? 
Lucille.
who is better at cheering the other up? 
Definitely Thomas. He actually has a sense of humor, for one thing.
who’s the one that playfully slaps the other all the time after they make silly jokes?
If we can sub that for "tsks with mock severity at them," Lucille.
who is more streetwise?
Honestly, neither really are. Thomas has actually been around the world and society more, but he's still fairly naive. Lucille just Doesn't Do People and as such has far less direct experience.
who is more wise?
Thomas. Simply by virtue of the fact that he CAN, eventually, sort of be made to see that their living situation- murders, etc. -is miserable and unsustainable.
who’s the shyest? 
Lucille. It's not sweet, blushing, giggly shyness in the slightest, but she Doesn't Do People, as mentioned above.
who boasts about the other more? 
Thomas. He has more people to boast to, since he. You know. Sees people. And he thinks Lucille hung the moon.
who sits on who’s lap?
Lucille sits on Thomas' lap on rare occasions, but not often. Mostly because she's a few inches shorter.
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marzipanandminutiae · 2 years
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Happy birthday! (I hope it's not too late.) You're my second favorite gothic lady born in April! 🥰
It is still April 2nd here, so not at all! All birthday wishes are appreciated, though I will stop answering them publicly tomorrow so as not to clog up people's dashes. Thank you!
(Having almost the same birthday as my Blorbo does deeply amuse me, though, as most people who've been following my descent into fandom madness know. As Sailor J once said, "I'm not a bitch; I'm just an Aries.")
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marzipanandminutiae · 2 years
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📕
A canon divergence fic that starts when the Sharpe siblings are like 8 and 6, where Eleanor Cushing (deceased) decides to use her freedom from the bounds of time and space to save her daughter a somewhat different way
by becoming a spectral mother figure to two long-ago children and stopping this Incest and Murder Train before it gets started
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marzipanandminutiae · 3 years
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who does the grocery shopping?
who updates their facebook status more often?
who insists on going to see the newest movies?
+ your Cpeak ot3!
- Who does the grocery shopping?
None of them, as such. They have groceries delivered, as was common for upper-class households in the late 19th/early 20th centuries (especially out in the country). But Edith and Lucille jointly manage the food in the house and oversee the deliveries.
In a modern AU, they all go to the store together, but Lucille is the one reminding them to stick to the list and not go haring off after every Exciting Shiny that catches Thomas' eye.
- Who updates their Facebook status more often?
(Modern AU). Not really a Facebook-intensive crowd, those three. Edith has a professional account for her fans, to keep them appraised of book release dates and so on. So I guess it's technically her.
- Who insists on going to see the newest movies.
(Modern AU). Thomas. The special effects always fascinate him, and he has a very long rant about CGI's replacement of practical effects in his back pocket at all times.
Edith and Lucille can practically mouth along with the words, at this point.
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marzipanandminutiae · 3 years
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Edith/Lucille and Thomas/Lucille for ship bingo?
Edith/Lucille:
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Thomas/Lucille:
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(by "platonic," I mean that I'm as interested in like...their Tender Sibling InteractionsTM as much as anything romantic and/or sexual. Their love is every kind of love rolled into one, and all aspects of it interest me.)
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marzipanandminutiae · 3 years
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You know, Jessica Chastain was like “Guillermo doesn’t know that I played Lucille as queer” but honestly He DID write the butterfly scene in the park And the first draft of the script had a lot more Interesting content between the characters, like Lucille having the idea for Thomas to get Edith a typewriter (a scene apparently shot for the final movie but never used) and tying her to the bed while making her sign the money transfer documents Plus, as @lucillesharpeismybaby pointed out, the bios mention Carlos Schwabe as one of Edith’s favorite artists. And he has a number of paintings that involve nude blonde and brunette women with very long hair in compromising positions Like...I have to wonder if JChas wasn’t unconsciously picking up on some homoeroticism that WAS intended all along
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