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Some Raine living in the Owl House headcanons
They and Eda have a long talk before they move in about ground rules for open communication, so when they’re talking about where Raine’s going to sleep, Raine is quick to bring up their nightmares
They’d love to stay in Eda’s room, they tell her, but There Will Be Screaming
Not a problem, she responds, and so they sleep in the nest
There is screaming
Sometimes Eda’s able to soothe them pretty quickly, but when they can’t shake a nightmare off, she’ll take them to the top of the tower and the two of them will stargaze
If Eda starts growing some unwanted feathers during the nights, Raine takes her up there too
Raine quickly memorizes where all the elixirs are stored in the Owl House so they can get some to her quickly if she doesn’t have any on hand. They also start keeping a stash on them at all times
Occasionally their nightmares wake King, too. When this happens, King grabs as many of his stuffed animals as he can carry and just. Showers them over Raine. They love it
They can never say no to King about anything. King knows this and is always ready to abuse it
They overhear Luz and Amity talking about The Good Witch Azura once and ask what it’s about. Six books and movies later, they’re a regular Azura book club member and thoroughly invested, much to Eda’s dismay
They’re trying to get her to do a Hecate/Azura cosplay with them. So far she’s been unyielding
This leads to Raine showing Luz the Die Bard franchise (she loves it), and so Owl House movie nights are born
Raine and Eda also have board game nights with Lilith and Hooty
Luz and Vee complain about the lunches at Gravesfield High exactly one time and Raine buys a stash of human food and starts making them homemade lunches to take to school every day
Raine and Eda being equal prodigies in their own right, the Hexsquad gets into the habit of coming to the Owl House for help with their homework. Surprising everyone, Eda is the parent that tries to nudge you in the right direction with helpful tips, while Raine is the parent that’s just like “you want the answer? Here it is”
Bonus: you all remember that one billboard of Raine they put up for the Coven Day parade? Eda hangs it in the living room next to her wanted poster. She likes the juxtaposition
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Nina the Killer Headcanons
I actually love her so much she’s one of my favorites. So excited to write for her >:)
T.W. : None?
She owns every color of nail polish there is
From dark blue to pastel pink, she’s got it. Nina will also do any of the creeps nails, she really enjoys it
Another thing she does is hair dying. And not just her hair (and other creeps hair) but also hair extensions
Like I’ve said, Nina is a scene and emo kid, so she has her experience in dying hair extensions and styling them such as multi color, tiger and leopard prints, etc
Nina collects lots of little and cute things! Monster High Dolls, Invader Zim Merch, and she has more stuffed animals than everyone combined
YOU CANT TELL ME HER FAVORITE MONSTER HIGH CHARACTER ISNT DRACULAURA I JUST WONT LISTEN TO YOU
Her room is to die for btw. It’s so comfy and cozy, but like so Nina?
Very light pink walls with lots of posters, a small desk, nightstand, and bed all with matching dark wood, fairy lights all around her room, blankets and pillows everywhere!
Literally my dream room fr
She has a book shelf and then other hanging shelves for her collections and knives and other stuff
Speaking of, some of her knives have stickers on them!
Honestly, she’s over Jeff
After meeting Jane and Liu, I feel like Nina would kind of realize that Jeff isn’t super great
Anyways
Nina is oddly very good at history
Don’t ask me why, it was her best subject in school and if you ask her something, she can probably tell you
I love her so much I swear
She’s actually really sweet, if you ignore the whole murdering thing
Like she’ll do people favors and lend 5$ to just about anyone
And she’s on great terms with everyone! Sally wanted to have a tea party? She’s there and ready to go. Toby wants to go for a walk but wants someone to rant to? They’re knocking on her door
Nina isn’t great at comforting people, but she’s a great listener and really good at giving advice
Also has 2 cats! A black cat named Hecate and a orange cat named Lilith
These 2 scalawags have the black cat orange cat energy definitely
A very messy killer, blood gets everywhere
Because of this, she’s super helpful because she knows how to get stains out of ANYTHING without ruining whatever it was
Ok that’s going to be all for now just so I don’t go on and on and on. As always, thank you for reading and have a lovely day!
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marine-indie-gal · 10 months
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Greek/Roman Pantheon Headcanon Voices
Ok, so after having much retconning headcanon thoughts, I’ve decided to make up a new and improve list of some headcanon voices that I had in mind for each of the Gods from both the Greek and Roman Pantheon if they were to appear in SpongeBob SquarePants.
Greek Pantheon
King Cronus - Gerald Butler (Stoick The Vast from "How To Train Your Dragon")
Queen Rhea - Angelina Jolie (Maleficent)
Salacia - Anya Taylor-Joy (Princess Peach from "The Super Mario Bros. Movie")
Emperor Zeus - Tom Ellis (Lucifer Morningstar from "Lucifer")
Lord Hades - Alan Cumming (Bog King from "Strange Magic")
Empress Hera - Cissy Jones (Lilith Clawthorne from "The Owl House")
Demeter - Helena Bonham Carter (Mayrin from "The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance")
Hestia - Deedee Magno (Pearl from "Steven Universe")
Lady Persephone -  Amy Adams (Giselle from "Enchanted")
Hermes - Ashton Kutcher (Elliot from "Open Season")
Ares - Ansel Elgort (Tommy Ross from "Carrie")
Hephaestus - Herman Tømmeraas
Aphrodite - Sydney Sweeney
Dionysus - Rhys Darby (Hypno-Potamus from "Rise of The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles")
Apollo - Robert Sheehan (Klaus Hargreeves from "The Umbrella Academy")
Artemis - Hailee Steinfeld (Vi from "Arcane")
Athena - Toks Olagundoye (Mel Medarda from "Arcane")
Eris - Kristin Chenoweth (Maleficent from "Descendants")
Hecate - Bette Midler (Winifred Sanderson from "Hocus Pocus")
Hebe - Kyla Kowalewski (Anais Watterson from "The Amazing World of Gumball")
Eileithyia - Tati Gabrielle (Willow Park from "The Owl House")
Enyo - Jessica Darrow (Luisa Madrigal from "Encanto")
Zagreus - Rider Strong (Tom Lucitor from "Star vs. The Forces of Evil")
Melinoe - Claire Corlette (Sweetie Belle from "My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic")
Pan - David Tennant (Crowley from "Good Omens")
Roman Pantheon
Lord Saturn - Idris Elba (Shere Khan from "The Jungle Book")
Lady Ops - Tilda Swinton (Alithea from "Three Thousand Years of Longing")
Emperor Jupiter - Kerry Shale (Harold Wilson from "The Amazing World of Gumball)
Lord Pluto - Brian Stokes Mitchell (Elktaur from "Centaurworld")
Empress Juno - Georgina Leahy (Stella Goetia from "Helluva Boss")
Ceres -  Anne Hathaway (Queen Mirana from "Alice in Wonderland")
Vesta - Ella Kenion (Delilah from "101 Dalmatian Street")
Lady Proserpina - Mia Wasikowska (Alice from "Alice in Wonderland")
Mercury - Alex Hirsch (King from "The Owl House")
Mars - Michael Kovach (Niles from "SMG4")
Vulcan - Daniel Sharman (Troy Otto from "Fear The Walking Dead")
Venus - Natasia Demetriou (Cala Maria from "The Cuphead Show")
Bacchus - Dana Snyder (Gazpacho from "Chowder")
Phoebus - Marcus Scribner (Bow from "She-Ra and The Princess of Power")
Diana - Zendaya
Minerva - Tabitha St. Germain (Princess Luna from "My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic")
Discordia - Zoe Moss (Baroness Von Bon Bon from "The Cuphead Show")
Trivia - Miranda Richardson (Lady Van Tassel from "Sleepy Hollow")
Juventas - Andrea Libman (Fluttershy from "My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic")
Lucina - Erica Lindbeck (Emira Blight from "The Owl House")
Bellona - Elizabeth Banks (Lucy "Wyldstyle" from "The Lego Movie")
Plutus - Tom Felton (Draco Malfoy from the "Harry Potter" film series)
Macaria - Lilly Bartlam (Skye from "Paw Patrol")
Faunus - Kayvan Novak (Nandor from "What We Do In The Shadows")
Sea Heirs
Proteus - Jack Dylan Grazer (Alberto Scorfano from "Luca")
Benthesikyme - Elle Fanning (Aurora from "Maleficent")
Kymopoleia - Sophia Lillis (Beverly Marsh from "IT")
Rhode - Dakota Fanning (Coraline Jones from "Coraline")
Isabelle - Anna Kendrick (Poppy from "Trolls")
Ruby - Sofia Carson (Pipp Petals from "My Little Pony: A New Generation")
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I’m in the ranting mood, these are the owl house characters I feel like are neurodivergent 🤭 also I’m not reading over this so if nothing makes sense, oh well
Luz (autism/adhd) - She’s obviously heavily nd coded, I’m pretty sure Dana even confirmed it. There have been multiple instances where she has stimmed. To the neurotypical eye, they would probably go unnoticed or they would just think she’s being a childish/energetic teenager. For example:
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That is very clearly her stimming. It’s not the first time she has done that either. Luz has stimmed many times throughout the show. Another thing that shows that she is nd is her interest for “the good witch azura” (same for amity but I’ll talk about that later). In the newest episode, “thanks to them”, you can see Luz’s interest grow over at least a few years. Most people don’t have an interest that lasts them years.. she decorated her whole room with things from her interest and she mentioned how she can read and write witchtongue in five different dialects. If that doesn’t scream ‘special interest’ to you, I don’t know what will. Luz is the character almost everyone knows about her neurodivergency so I’ll move onto the rest..
Amity (autism) - Surprisingly I haven’t seen that many people agree with this?? To me, amity is very clearly autistic. She stims as well but it’s not as noticeable as it is with luz. She fidgets with my clothes or her hands a lot and that’s an example of tactile stimming. For exampleeee:
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You can see her rubbing her hands in this, it’s possibly a way she’s self regulating because of the situation she’s in. Moving on, just like luz, “the good witch azura” is most likely her special interest. Neurodivergent people are known to attract people and the fact that they have the same interests is just a huge give away. And the way that they dressed up as azura and Hecate for Halloween just shows how they try bring their interests into everything. Amity also doesn’t understand social cues or jokes! When luz told her “I’m picking up what you’re putting down”, amity responded with “I’m not putting anything down”. She didn’t understand the figure of speech and took it literally, that’s a big thing that autistic people do.
Hunter (autism/adhd) - I’m gonna start with things from the newest episode. Everyone knows that wolves have got to be his special interest. It’s incredibly obvious. The way his eyes lit up when he spoke about them just shows how passionate he is about that topic. This part is more of a headcanon but I like to think that the shirt he made brings comfort to him and that’s why he continued to wear it. Anyway, just like amity, Hunter both fidgets with his hands. For example:
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It’s not that obvious but once again, this is considered tactile stimming. He also doesn’t understand social cues. Like when willow spoke about his “sick sky skills” then he proceeded to touch his forehead and say he didn’t feel sick. I’ve seen people say that it’s probably because he was sheltered in the emperors coven but I disagree, he just took it literally because of his autism :/ I also think that wild magic is a special interest for him.
I’m losing motivation so I’m just going to list the other characters I see as neurodivergent:
Eda - adhd Lilith - autism Edric - autism/adhd Alador - autism King - autism Collector - autism Gus - autism/adhd Willow - autism Raine - autism Camilla - autism Wittebane brothers - autism
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magaprima · 1 year
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I always feel that post-part 4, with Lilith having all her powers restored, and regaining her position as Queen of Hell (but with the added benefit of no Plague Kings to challenge her, and Lucifer banished and gone), that she would begin to do what Lucifer did and start bestowing powers, creating witches herself.
Now, obviously, she can’t do it in the same way Lucifer did as his power gifts came from his power as a celestial, but we do know Lilith can bestow powers as she restored all of Sabrina’s (but not, significantly, the extra powers Lucifer had given Sabrina as those were obviously celestial gifts). Lilith does have a spark of celestial energy in her that was used to bring her to life, so it stands to reason that a mixture of that, her powers as a witch, and her infernal powers as Queen of Hell would allow her to ‘create’ witches. Similarly, by the coven being gifted powers by Hecate, we know that canonically, witches can be granted powers in the CAOS universe by multiple deities and entities.
I imagine she would have a book to sign (The Dark Moon Book, mayhaps?) but it is more a register than a contract like it was with Lucifer, due to Lilith still vehemently being about free will (she did tell Sabrina ‘now you have both freedom and power, and may you never give up either of them again’ so witches having power without having to make a bargain of give up part of themselves is canonically important to Lilith). Signing the book would not mean the witches would have to offer servitude and obedience to Lilith, but it’s sort of expected that they would honour her (the way Zelda’s coven honours Hecate in return for her gifts), and as long as they are loyal to the ‘Craft’ so-to-speak, not turning their back on it, or using it to bind/compel/control other witches, then they keep their powers. Lilith asks for their respect, not their subservience.
And as each set of witches all seem to have different names within CAOS (Satanic Witches, Pagan Witches, etc), I love the idea of Lilith using one of my favourite RL Lilith terms, and calling her witches ‘Daughters of Lilith’.
So yeah, that’s one of my little post-part-4 headcanons.
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soupysketches · 4 years
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Adding to headcanons/AUs/theories I love...
(Honestly I made some of these up just now lol)
Short Amity!!!!!!
Curly hair Luz!!
Camilla being The Good Witch Azura!!! S O good!!!
Camilla being the Good Witch Azura, AND Eda being Hecate????? Y E S????
King being related to, or a reincarnation of The Boiling Isles titan, and becoming an extremely important character!!!
Human Emperor Belos/ Belos being an illusion caused by a human when fighting, hence why he can like shapeshift or whatever it’s called.
Hooty or King turning out to be evil.
Lilith wearing contacts... It would be cute to see her in glasses in future episodes. :”O
Willow having a corruption arc/ becoming an antagonist. Doubt this will happen the way the series is going so far, but I have an au for it bc I adore it so much heh.
Emperor Belos being The Good Witch Azura....Plot twist yes. “But he’s a guy” you may say? He wears a mask hiding his true identity, his palisman/staff is v e r y similar to Azura’s and his mask, or magic, or technology, or anything could easily alter/hide his real voice. I doubt it’ll be canon but god I love it.
The curse isn’t gone, but instead Eda and Lilith share it, and it’s not as intense. Thought that was canon, but people keep saying Lilith cured it for some reason.
King and Tiny Nose being a thing. That would be cute as hell. Because, you know, Dana and Alex. Also they’re both tiny and chaotic.
King or Hooty turning out to be evil.
Hooty getting controlled by Belos and turning against Eda and the gang. Think in Hooty’s Moving Hassle he was being controlled by Luz, Gus, and Willow, so we know he can be controlled by magic.
Lilith and Belos fight!!!
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ladyofriverrun · 3 years
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if Lilith managed to hide away until Adam came of age, what would he think of Lucifer? How would Lucifer feel about him?
Do you mean if Lilith’s ‘I’m gonna stay here for sixteen years’ plan had stayed on course? Which I so wish it had, because just imagine Lilith and Adam living with the Spellmans and the coven for that long, making their actual home there. The chaos and the adorableness is unbearably wonderful. 
But back to the Adam focus. 
I have a lot headcanons/theories about Adam (one of which is the fact that Hecate saved him and Lilith for a reason, and that he’d have a prophecy about him as much as Sabrina did, especially since he has duality like Sabrina does. Except he’s half-witch half-celestial rather than half-mortal half-celestial) and I just feel that being raised by Lilith (and possibly raised by the coven and the Spellmans too) that Adam would grow up to be surprisingly well rounded. 
I also fully believe he’d have embraced his witch side, in the same way Sabrina embraces her mortal side, and that, as a son of Lilith, it’s inevitable that he’d grow up a feminist. There’s no way any child of Lilith would be hating on women. And, add to the fact in this scenario, he’d probably grow to know Sabrina’s family too, and Sabrina herself (once resurrected), there’s more strong women and more positive attitudes and behaviour to learn from. 
With all that in mind we’d end up with an of-age Adam being someone who yes, has a dark side, and a dangerous side (his parentage makes that inevitable) but someone who has learned how to control that darkness and to use it appropriately, someone who has grown up learning to respect people, someone who has grown up certainly respecting and appreciating women and the power of women, someone who has a home in the mortal realm not the infernal, and so certainly has no desire for apocalypses or tenth circles or anything like that. I mean, I’ve said how Lilith would be different (softer, less guarded, less prone to manipulation) if she’d had a more positive environment and/or she’d actually had a childhood in which to grow and develop, and with Adam he gets all those things, so I think, genuinely, he’d be very well rounded. He’d be the other half to Sabrina (as in, we know Sabrina has flaws, but we also know fundamentally she has good intentions and morals). 
Then, we add that he would have heard stories about Lucifer from Lilith, from Sabrina, from the Spellmans, from the coven, of how they’ve all suffered because of him. Lilith would, of course, inevitably have to explain who he was named after and what happened to him, and learning that his Father brutally butchered his Mother’s lover and then made her eat him is definitely not something that would make you want to have some Father-Son bonding time. 
So with all that in consideration, added on top of the fact Adam is hidden away from Lucifer and so has never met him for himself until he’s of age......I don’t think he’d be impressed. You know when Lucifer met Blackwood face-to-face and he was so dismissive and disdainful like ‘wtf’? That is exactly how Adam would be with Lucifer, and it would be glorious because Lucifer has never been on the receiving end of that kind of behaviour. 
And in turn I think Lucifer would think Adam had been ruined by the witches. He would think Lilith had softened him, he’d think the Spellmans and the coven had filled his head with Hecatian (new word. But I like it) ideas. Also the fact that inevitably Adam would be extremely close to, and love, his Mother (and similarly, Sabrina and the Spellmans too) would no doubt annoy Lucifer, because, yet again, like with Sabrina, he’s got a child challenging him rather than standing beside him. And I like the image of Adam arriving to challenge Lucifer, and then his sister stood beside him, the two halves of the Morningstar bloodline, and then Lucifer looks and sees that behind them both is Lilith, Hilda and Zelda (the three parents) and behind that....the whole fucking coven. 
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sepublic · 4 years
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Various Headcanons, Speculation, and Observations
-Wrath was in the Abomination Track when he was younger, but an accident severely damaged his arms. In order to still use them, he infused them with Abomination goop to give them stronger, shape-shifting properties- However, his hands were still too damaged and he could no longer perform Magic as a result. Because of this, he couldn’t be placed in the Emperor’s Coven and was instead relegated as Warden of the Conformatorium, placed in charge of the Magic-less Emperor’s Guard. The incident that damaged his arms could’ve been a disease, or the cause of a social deviant- Or maybe he’s just a jerk.
-If Luz was placed into the Potions Track, it could set up a conflict between her and Boscha, further providing support for this idea!
-Amity originally came across The Good Witch Azura through the library, specifically because the Librarian bought the books from Eda. We know he’s associated with her before and vice-versa, after all. The Librarian probably saw the value of including Human literature, or may have been scammed. Given how Eda tried to burn the Book 1 she got from Luz, she remembers that there’s already one at the library and thus the one she has is now worthless, and/or the Librarian is no longer interested in buying more Azura books from her.
-Crack Theory, do not take seriously: King and Bellows are a dual-personality, having once been a united being before they were split apart. This is why King is associated both with Luz’s pet snakes, which are also the Gildersnake in The Good Witch Azura, and ANOTHER character from the books, the fluffy dog. King also sounds like he’s merely parroting what others have said about/told him...
-What if the thief who stole Lilith’s lunch money during Eda’s childhood was Amity’s mom, AKA Mrs. Blight?
-Bumper Robinson voices Principal Bump.
-Both Boscha and Braxas were present at Luz and Amity’s duel and were close to each other and Willow and Gus. This means they also probably saw Amity ‘cheat’ at the end.
-Is Bellows a cockatrice/basilisk? There’s the flame, bird, and reptile motifs, all wrapped up into one neat, mythical package!
-What if the ‘Two Witches’ in the Eye Codes Poem refers to Eda and Luz, not Eda and Lilith?
-Eda had orange hair and is a troublemaker, while Lilith has blue hair and is a more conventional witch of the law. Hecate is associated with orange and is an antagonist, while Azura is associated with blue and is the protagonist.
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catelyngrant · 4 years
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I have feelings about CAOS.
This season was a mess lmao but @witchqueenlilith and I watched it all in one go and it was a fun experience and I’m trying to focus on the good rather than the dumpster fire elements. I went in with low expectations which served me well. 
The stuff I care about most first:
I LOVE ONE (1) DRAMATIC BITCH ZELDA SPELLMAN
i had to watch her die three separate times and that was traumatic but what a QUEEN has anyone ever been shot so dramatically
I teared the fuck up at her future death scene though? IT’S WHAT SHE DESERVES
Zelda smashing the Blackwood statue to pieces was satisfying af (also “he is a little bitch” asldkjgl;kgds)
HILDEGARD ANTOINETTE SPELLMAN WITCH AND ROMANCE NOVELIST 
I was ready to riot when I thought Doctor C. was dead, she deserves nothing but love and that made me so happy
Zelda weeping over Hilda’s grave had me fucked up
Hilda really turned into a spider for some reason huh
Zelda leading the coven in praying to Lilith...CHILLS. 
So remember how Lilith was the queen of hell at the end of last season and now is some weird hybrid of Sabrina’s handmaiden and Satan’s pregnant concubine and yeeeeeeah none of that was remotely okay, god fucking damn it
“You are the absolute worst” PREACH IT LILITH how did Michelle Gomez not strain her eyes from all of the eye rolling she had to do this season
I am here for Mambo Marie and hope she sticks around and not just to mack on Zelda
although...CANON QUEER ZELDA FUCK YES that is an attractive ship and I am delighted that they went there
Mary Wardwell deserved better and I was super squicked by almost all of her scenes towards the end...the virginity stuff was Not Cool
So. The Lilith and Zelda scene. It was hot and I appreciate how Miranda and Michelle gave us all that they could within the constraints of what they were working with. I do not get why the fuck Zelda wouldn’t give her sanctuary. I am working ENTIRELY within the realm of my headcanons now, which is not okay because the show should be giving us consistent characterization and not putting the onus on us to create ways in which their dumb choices can be rationalized, but the way I’m gonna have to go with it is my personal headcanon that in s2, under the Caligari spell, Zelda prayed to Lilith and never had any response. She seemed reluctant to pray to her in episode one and then directly called Lilith a wild card and unreliable, and she also has a lot of reason to distrust Lilith in terms of how she manipulated Sabrina. I am personally headcanoning that Zelda has extremely complicated emotions about Lilith and that’s where that rejection came from. It doesn’t make the scene as it was okay, but it’s what I’ve got.
Goddamn though the scene as it was - without the broader context - was hot. 
“You worship me!” goD give Lilith a hug already 
I missed the Spellman family and wish that they had more scenes together. Season one had those lovely quiet scenes between Sabrina and Zelda, and Sabrina and Hilda, and hell, Zelda and Hilda - we didn’t get a lot of that this season. 
I loved loved loved the limbo sequence with the Spellman siblings
I’m sad they’re not the Church of Lilith but the scene around Hilda’s grave where Miranda called upon Hecate and nominated herself for several awards was everything
I’m sure there’s more but I’m gonna stop there
Other things:
lol I do not care about the teenagers even a little, I TRIED but whew
except Prudence, who deserved SO MUCH BETTER
Blackwood really was in this season huh? and his randomly grown children who showed up for two minutes?
The Pagan villains were dumb and felt really pointless
So much of this season felt pointless actually? Like after defeating Satan himself and taking over Hell at the end of last season, the stakes this time around just felt so much lower and I had no investment
not that they SHOULDN’T have dealt with Nick’s PTSD but would it have been too much to ask that Zelda’s trauma from last season be so much as alluded to or that Mary Wardwell be given any form of support whatsoever after two seasons worth of trauma? nah fam 
how many times did they say the word “seed” this season
time travel why not
two sabrinas why not
literally WHEN were we supposed to understand that Sabrina actually does want to rule Hell beside her devil father with absolutely no one that she loves by her side? That is...not remotely in character.
Satan really just got over them overthrowing him pretty quickly didn’t he
laughing forever at the random Spring Awakening number
actually all of the music was hysterical, like did they have a bet to see how many musical numbers they could fit into this season
I don’t even know man I just watched this entire season in one sitting and I still don’t really know what happened I’m just here for the pretty ladies 
bring on part four?
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haiilsabrina · 4 years
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A VERY DESCRIPTIVE PROFILE OF YOUR MUSE. repost with the information of your muse, including headcanons, etc. if you fail to achieve some of the facts, add some other of your own!
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NAME. Sabrina Spellman Morningstar
NICKNAME(S). Edwina Diana. Dark Lord’s Sword, Herald of Hell (by herself),  Sabrina Morningstar (by herself, Lucifer, Lilith, Caliban and demons), Spellman, Babe (by Nick), ‘Brina (by Harvey, Rosalind and Theo), Spellman Whore (by Blackwood), Half-Breed (by Prudence), My darling daughter (by Lucifer),  Proud Lady of Pandemonium, Maiden of Shadows (by Lucifer and Lilith), Rabble-rouser (by Ambrose), Princess, My lady (by Caliban).
TITLE(S). Queen of Hell, Proud Lady of Pandemonium, Maiden of Shadows, Ravenette.
AGE. 16 in the start of the show (her age depends in verses, 16-20 years old)
SPECIES. Part-witch/Part-human/Part-angel
GENDER. Female
ALIGNMENT. Baxter High, WICCA, The Fright Club, Church of Night (formerly), Order of Hecate, Academy of Unseen Arts, Baxter High Ravenettes, Hell.
INTERESTS. Horror movies, magic, old music, Lovecraftian horrors.
PROFESSION. Student, Queen of Hell (does this one count? xD).
BODY TYPE. Petite, slim.
EYES. Hazel.
HAIR. White.
SKIN. Clear and fair.
FACE. Plum lips and turned-up nose.
HEIGHT. 5′2′’
VOICE: Soft.
COMPANIONS. Severus Snape, Salem, The Fright Club (Harvey Kinkle, Rosalind Walker, Theo Putman, Robin Goodfellow), Nicholas Scratch, The Weird Sisters (Prudence Blackwood, Agatha, Dorcas), Spellman Family (Zelda Spellman, Ambrose Spellman, Hilda Spellman), Melvin, Elspeth, Caliban.
ANTAGONISTS. Nicholas Scratch, Lucifer, Lilith and her unborn son, Kings of Hell, Caliban, Pagans, angels, Faustus Blackwood, Judas’ Society.
COLORS. Red, black, violet.
FRUITS. Red apples, oranges, bananas.
DRINKS. Milkshake, tea, water.
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES? Absinthe, whiskey, wine.
SMOKES? Nope.
DRUGS? Nope.
DRIVERS LICENSE? Sabrina doesn’t have one, but Ambrose promised to teach her how to drive. By now, teleportation spell and Aunt Hilda/Ambrose behind the wheel are enough for her.
Tagged by: @severustm​
Tagging: whoever wants to do it!
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magissathea · 4 years
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I want to write Hecate and Lilith headcanons
I fucked up and gamed last night. My wrist swelled up, pained up to my elbow.
But I'm having Hecate and Lilith feels.
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angelusreprcbi · 4 years
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I’m still thinking of how to write the s3 addition to my Luci’s headcanons and stuff, but like I can say one thing:
He’s 100% okay with the coven now worshipping Hecate. Like he could think of no better person, other than Lilith, to worship. However since the witches gifts stem from him being an angel, then Hecate is the best bet in order to keep their powers since she is the goddess of magic and witchcraft.
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munadaria · 4 years
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And here I am, with more headcanons for the caos verse. This time behind a cut as I consider some of what I mention actually spoilery for part 3. This post mostly expands on a few things on the previous one.
Signing your name in the book of the beast does not stop you from being able to pray to other gods and/or sources of power. The prime example being Zelda praying to Hecate with what’s left of the coven, the hedgewitches and mortals to resurrect Hilda. Or the fact they prayed to Lilith. Or that they are now renaiming themselves the Order of Hecate - which is quite the pagan turn but we’re not here for that now.
With this out of the way, the headcanons begin:
Val.yrians were known for having their own pantheon of gods, and if they prayed to someone for magic related reasons it would be them. Not the Dark Lord, no greek deities or any other substitutes. Their gods or nothing, which relates to the saying about Targ.aryens answering to neither gods nor men, and in this case I add nor Lucifer. It isn’t until Val.yria is no more and the Targ.aryens have relocated to Dragon.stone that they also become satanic witches/warlocks, as a way to integrate the customs of those living in Dragon.stone or those who also seek refuge in the island over the years. This is why the church of the dragon is formed. It allows both acceptance as much as prevents a revolt for not praying to the right entity.
Dragon.stone is also several times larger than it is in canon, so this allows for a larger population of both mortals and witches/warlocks, those the majority of the population belongs to the latter. This would also allow for the civil war to make sense and take place, as well as the tragedy of Summer.hall; the latter would happen with Ella being 17 in this case and still giving birth to Rhae.gar that day, with a large number of the family dying in the attempt to bring back dragons. 
Circling back to the Val.yrian pantheon, Ella does pray to them in her time of need. But gods being gods, they are fickle and oft times her prayers go unheard. They’re regarded mostly as an old or forgotten religion, different from the one the pagans in part 3 pray or are devoted to, but they remain the gods of her people and she won’t forsake them. Even when she did sign her name in the book of the beast for her dark baptism - and that’s something she wasn’t happy about either, signing her soul away the same day she has to wed her brother...
All of this means that, if and when she is accepted within the coven/order/whatever name it will go by next in Greendale she has no issue praying to someone who isn’t the Dark Lord himself. She has done it her entire life, if anything she would need to become more familiar with the new traditions as much as everyone else.
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simlishnoir · 5 years
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So a few years ago (okay October 2016) I started working on a timeline-ish for my headcanon of The Sims. Maybe it can give someone inspiration idk.
Legend: Standard text - Names of characters/Important events Italic text - The neighborhoods/worlds Bold text - The games
2009 – Barnacle Bay
2004 – The Sims 2 (Pleasantview, Strangetown, Veronaville), Tycho Curious is born
2000 – Beau Broke and Ariel Capp are born
1997 – Celeste GilsCarbo is born
1994 – Bella Goth is abducted, Desdemona Capp is born
1993 – Alexander Goth, Lucy Burb, Jill Smith and Buck Grunt are born
1992 – Hal Cap, Beatrice Monty and Benedick Monty are born
1988 – Dragon Valley, Juliette Capp and Romeo Monty are born
1987 – Dustin Broke, Dirk Dreamer, Angela Pleasant, Lilith Pleasant and Hermia Capp are born
1986 – Miranda Capp, Tybalt Capp, Mercutio Monty and Ripp Grunt are born
1985 – Sunlit Tides, Tank Grunt is born
1983 – Ophelia Nigmos is born
1982 – Johnny Smith is born
1980 – Part of SimValley is now incorporated as Old Town in the Greater SimCity area, Nervous Subject is born
1979 – The Sims
1977 – Lucky Palms, Aurora Skies
1976 – Kristen Loste is born
1975 – Kaylynn II Langerak is born
1974 – Ajay Loner is born
1973 – Erin Beaker is born
1971 – Monte Vista, Alice GilsCarbo is born
1969 – Roaring Heights, Dina, Nina Caliente, John Burb, Jennifer Burb née Pleasant, Goopy GilsCarbo and Kent Capp are born
1968 – Cassandra Goth, Brandi Broke née Newbie and Hero Monty née Arlecchino are born
1967 – Don Lothario, Antonio Monty, Loki Beaker and Circe Beaker née Salamis are born
1966 – Mary-Sue Pleasant née Oldie and Regan Capp are born
1965 – Daniel Pleasant, Cornwall Capp née Dane, Lazlo Curious and Lyla Grunt née Vandermorgan are born
1964 – Buzz Grunt is born
1963 – Vidcund Curious is born
1962 – Pascal Curious is born
1961 – Bianca Monty is born
1960 – Areas of Sunset Valley are now known as SimValley
1959 – Goneril Capp is born
1958 – Darleen Dreamer née Matlapin is born
1957 – Albany Capp née Norman, Olivia Monty née Dottore and Jenny Smith are born
1956 – Riverview, Darren Dreamer and Claudio Monty are born
1954 – The Sims 3 (Sunset Valley)
1953 – Sinjin Balani is born
1951 – Cordelia Capp is born
1950 – Caliban Capp née Gale is born
1948 – Skip Broke and Susie Broke are born
1947 – Lola Curious-Smith and Chloe Curious-Smith are born
1946 – Bella Goth née Bachelor and Kaylynn I Langerak are born
1945 – Maria Arlecchino née Amantes, Madhuri Loner and Willow Nigmos are born
1944 – Mortimer Goth, Trinculo Arlecchino and Missy Grunt née Melons-Steel are born
1943 – Chip Grunt, Vikram Loner and Creon Nigmos are born
1942 – Coral Oldié née Ruggbyrne and Tobea Dane née Scott are born
1941 – Ruby Broke, Trigger Broke and Herb Oldie are born
1940 – Hamlet Jr Dane and Daisy Loste are born
1939 – Michael Bachelor, Bob Newbie, Betty Newbie née Simovitch, Brad Burb and Tiffany Burb née Marsh are born
1938 – Adriana Lothario née Fiorello, Parker Langerak and Grainne Salamis née McGork are born
1937 – Nicolo Lothario and Gundrun Beaker née Halfdanarson are born
1936 – Patrizio Monty, Isabella Monty née Pantalone and Arty Loste are born
1935 – Mariana Matlpain, Diane Pleasant née Danders, Jacqueline Vandermorgan and Olive Specter are born
1934 – Lolita Goth, Jeff Pleasant, Consort Capp née Thebe and Ichabod Specter are born
1933 – Omar Matlapin, Contessa Capp and Bjorn Beaker are born
1932 – Katrina Caliente and A.P. Vandermorgan are born
1930 – Delilah Dreamer née Darong is born
1929 – Sunset Valley is founded by Gunther Goth & Chester Landgraab, Nighat Caliente née Al Mahmoud and Davis Dreamer are born
1928 – Judith Dottore née Brighella is born
1927 – Flamenco Caliente, Holofernes Dottore and Kitty Curious née Hogleg are born
1926 – Anne Norman née Anjou and Mary Melons are born
1925 – Zelda Mae, Richard Norman and Xanthos Salamis are born
1924 – Mike Steel is born
1923 – Sycorax Gale is born
1922 – Tango Caliente, Prospero Gale and Glarn Curious are born
1921 – Gertrude Dane, Macduff Scott and Glabe Curious are born
1920 – Hamlet Sr Dane, Lady Scott, Katherina Amantes and Wanda Grunt are born
1919 – Fatima Simovitch, Anastasia Marsh, Stephano Arlecchino and Rock Grunt are born
1918 – Robert Sr Newbie, Susan Burb, Quickly Arlecchino and Bhu Frehndly are born
1917 – Mags Newbie, Willian Marsh, Petruchio Amantes and Milony Frehndly are born
1916 – Vadim Simovitch, Mamie Ruggbyrne, Benjamin Burb and Andromache Thebe are born
1915 – Bruno Ruggbyrne, Iliana Langerak née Mae, Hector Thebe née Albion and Lerato Muenda are born
1914 – Agnes Crumplebottom, Jocasta Bachelor, Mary Lu Broke, Dustin Langerak and Peponi Muenda are born
1913 – Isabella Fiorello, Irma Oldie and Kavi Loner are born
1912 – Simis Bachelor, Erik Darling, Primo Fiorello and Jeevika Loner are born
1911 – Buck Broke and Myron Oldie are born
1910 – Hecate Nigmos is born
1909 – Frida Goth, Benazir Al Mahmoud, Carmelo Lothario, Scribonia Capp, Moira McGork and Zog Nigmos are born
1908 – Tariq Al Mahmoud, Mama Lothario, Francisca Pantalone née Zanni and Ingibjorg Halfdanarson are born
1907 – Melinda Danders, Octavius Capp née Caesar, Silvia Monty née Capitano and Gwrtheyrn McGork are born
1906 – The Great Fire of SimCity, Flat Broke, Flo Broke, Kynda Pleasant, Valentine Monty and Leif Halfdanarson are born
1905 – Sef Darong, Lina Darong, Marshall Danders and Vincentio Pantalone are born
1904 – Gunther Goth, Cornelia Goth née Crumplebottom and Dacia Dreamer are born
1903 – Twinbrook, Dalmar Dreamer, Les Pleasant and Lucetta Brighella are born
1902 – Dull Dottore, Jaquenetta Dottore and Petunia Simnitch are born
1901 – Thurio Brighella and Vera Loste are born
1900 – Mathilde Norman, Gertrude Beaker and Leonard Simnitch are born
1899 – William Norman is born
1898 – Canute Beaker and Annie Hogleg are born
1897 – Eleanor Anjou and Notzo Curious are born
1896 – Henry Anjou and Goshem Loste are born
1895 – Dulcinea Caliente is born
1894 – Hamm Hogleg is born
1893 – Bunny Curious is born
1892 – Nestor Caliente, Eurydice Salamis and Zoe Curious née Whelohff are born
1891 – Andros Salamis is born
1890 – The Modern Landgraab Dynasty begins
1889 – Queen Thebe is born
1888 – Eetion Thebe is born
1887 – Hecuba Albion is born
1885 – Enriqueta Bachelor, Priam Albion and Julia Pantalone are born
1884 – Cleopatra Capp and Proteus Pantalone are born
1883 – Milton Bachelor and Mariana Capitano are born
1882 – Angelo Capitano and Overdone Zanni are born
1881 – Lucio Zanni is born
1879 – Antony Capp is born
1878 – Portia Monty is born
1876 – Prudence Crumplebottom and Bassanio Monty are born
1875 – Robert Crumplebottom and Calpurnia Caesar are born
1874 – Gretle Goth is born and Simon Crumplebottom is born
1873 – Julius Caesar is born
1872 – Victor Goth and Olivia Goth are born
1870 – Samuel Goth is born
1866 – Cherish Curious is born
1864 – Rich Whelohff is born
1863 – Marshall Curious is born
1862 – Rosy Whelohff is born
1831 – Steward Curious is born
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magaprima · 3 years
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I really want Lilith in any post-part 4 threads to be connected to Hecate. There were hints at this direction in Part 4 (Zelda stating needing representatives of each aspect, and then Lilith being the Mother aspect, Adam’s birth being blessed by Hecate, Lucifer saying ‘this is where you’ve been keeping yourself; a Temple of Hecate’, and Lilith pointing out ‘She was the Goddess of Witches and I was the first witch’, and then Lilith praying to her in her darkest moments) and then with the cut scene where they show the eyes of the Hecate statue glowing, showing Hecate would have been a more direct part of Part 5, I feel it just feels naturally and inevitable to have Lilith tied/connected to her too. Especially as stabbing Lucifer, banishing him, could be seen as a metaphor for Lilith cutting ties entirely with her old life.
I’ve been thinking about it a lot, since Part 4 dropped, of how Lilith and Hell and Hecate could be intertwined (especially, as, like I and others have said, when Lilith looks at the throne in episode 8 it’s with the expression of ‘this is a means to an end’ rather than the way she used to look at the throne like it was, to quote Lilith herself, ‘the only thing she ever wanted’), especially as Baby Adam is a really interesting factor I feel had to play a part at some point in the future, as he is an heir to Hell’s Throne, but he was also born in a temple of Hecate under Hecate’s blessing and her direct help. He’s in two worlds as much as Sabrina was. 
We know Lilith can’t give up Hell anymore for the same reason Sabrina claimed to take the throne; to stop demons making the mortal realm into a tenth circle. We need a ruler who doesn’t want to destroy all of the mortal realm. So, she can’t just turn her back on it all, it is, also, Adam’s Kingdom by blood. We all pretty much confirm that Lilith’s intent was to resurrect Adam (as it’s only when she has his soul returned to her that she starts working on getting her powers back. Also the fetish doll is a tool that can be used for soul transference as much as hosting). 
Now, the Hell in the CAOS mythology seems to have been created by Lucifer (or discovered by him? They make it slightly fuzzy on those particular details. But he is definitely the one who built the actual Kingdom) but it doesn’t need him to exist, as proven when he is put in the acheron, and when he is banished by Lilith (I mean the Plague Kings claimed that Lilith ruling it was upsetting the cosmos, but we had no evidence of that at all. What did upset the cosmos was there being two Sabrinas) We’ve also seen that whoever rules Hell effects how it appears (prime example is that, under Sabrina Morningstar, the fashions change and it’s much more party-like and there is a lot of actually edible food) so it is capable of mutating, of changing into something else. 
Lilith has, during her time at the Academy, obviously been influenced (positively) by the presence of Hecate and the support of the coven. The Lilith taking the throne at the end of Part 4 is not the same Lilith who took it at the end of Part 2. Part 2 finale Lilith was all about running Hell exactly as she’d always seen it run, but Part 4 Lilith has seen how a coven changed completely and become more powerful for it, and she’s now experienced support, affection, people welcoming her etc etc. She’s also experienced the love for her son and the grief of losing him. These are all major changing things. This Lilith is, I suspect, not going to be at all inclined to run things how Lucifer did or, even, how Sabrina did. 
Lilith’s identity is tied to her being the first witch. It’s the only title she gives herself in Part 4- not Mother of Demons, not Queen of Hell, just ‘first witch’- and shows how much it is a huge part of who she is. Also, as I said in another post, Lucifer’s curse of humanity would have destroyed/erased the demoness in her, which would not have come back when she took her powers back by drinking his blood. So physically who she is has changed too. The only thing that never changed is the fact she’s a witch (even when Lucifer ‘strips’ her of her Satanic powers, she still has enough of her own powers to summon Caliban, to enter Hell etc) so being a witch is, I feel, going to be a key part of Lilith’s Hell, and that’s another part of how she’d be linked to Hecate. 
So, so far, Lilith’s direct links to Hecate are
1. She’s the first witch and Hecate is the Goddess of Witches 2. Hecate blessed the birth of her son, Adam  3. Adam himself is half a witch.  4. Lilith had sanctuary in a temple of Hecate 5. Lilith’s direct prayers to Hecate stopped her from taking her own life and also led to Marie gifting her Baby Adam’s soul
There’s no escaping the connection. But how do we actively bring Hecate into Hell, if Hell is a realm in its own right, and was created by an angel of the False God? And in my thinking and analysing and theorising, I realised:
 Baby Adam. 
Lilith has baby Adam’s soul. She has it ready for him to be brought back to life. Lilith, we know, can create bodies from scratch. True, we’ve only seen her demons, but odds are she create something that looks normal (after all, her demonic creations were not made with a soul as Adam would be) so Lilith can, relatively easily, create a body for Adam to return to. But a body and a soul, even when joined, still need life. 
Now, I headcanoned that Lilith would craft Adam’s body out of earth, because that’s what she was made of, and that would connect them as Mother and Son, that they’d still be of the same flesh and blood as it were. But to bring Lilith to life, the False God breathed divine energy into her, a breath of divinity moulded earth into flesh and made her into a living, flesh-and-bone woman (unlike Caliban, who, despite appearances, has been shown to be very much still clay). Obviously, the False God isn’t an option....but Hecate is. 
What if Baron Samedi gave Lilith Adam’s soul, Lilith crafted the body, but Hecate is the one who gives him life, just as she did in his natural birth? Especially as the birth meant he was already under Hecate’s blessing? I think, personally, that makes complete sense; it also a nice trinity aspect to Adam’s rebirth which parallels religion and what not. 
But Hecate being the one to breathe Adam to life is a pretty big gift. Huge in fact. And obviously puts Lilith, not in service, but in debt to Hecate . When you do ask things from spirits/deities/etc you do offer something in return. It could be a donation to charity, their favourite food, a new plant to add to your garden or home, something that you say ‘in exchange for your help, I will do this’. In exchange for Hecate’s help with Baby Adam (making him it could be reasoned, even more tied to Hecate than he is to Lucifer), Lilith offers Hell itself, and Hell becomes part of Hecate’s realms. 
Hecate is a psychopomp, she is a guardian and guide between living and death already, she has the keys to all the realms, so Hell would never have been out-of-bounds for her, so the idea of having Hecate honoured in Hell is not impossible, and it would mean that in the absence of Lucifer, something even more divine has taken his place, to give power to the realm and to keep Pandemonium going etc. 
It would mean Lilith (and eventually Adam) would rule the domain, but it would be almost as if it were ‘ruling in honour of’, essentially being regents to Hecate herself I suppose, or, if you want to have parallels to Greendale and Zelda’s coven; Infernal High Priestess. Basically, it would be in the same energy of the likes of Medea (a deliberate choice of reference here, because Lilith already compared herself to her) or Circe; extremely powerful witches, so powerful some say they’re Goddesses themselves, who do, in turn, worship Hecate, but have Kingdoms/Domains of their own over which they rule. 
I just instinctively feel this is the type of Hell and the type of rule Lilith would have post-part 4. It means souls would still go there as they always have, perhaps even using Sabrina M’s suggestion of ‘one soul in, one soul out’, it would still act as an underworld realm, just as Hades is, but now would be powered by a new deity, and the entire ‘house of Morningstar’ thing would, ironically, become irrelevant, allowing Lilith (and Adam) to have cut ties with that name completely. I imagine you would get demons leaving, others staying and enjoying the change, and you would get newcomers; realms are fluid and Hell would be no different in that regard. 
This would also mean that Lilith, Hell and Baby Adam would still be tied to the coven in Greendale due to their shared worship/connection with Hecate, which means the coven and Hell would finally be on the same connected side again as they were in part 1, but in a different and more positive way. It would also have allowed, with any Part 5 storylines, for there to be a reason for the two worlds and characters to interact. 
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magaprima · 3 years
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I have a theory/opinion about the way Lilith gave birth, and that thing where all the coven took on her pain for themselves. Because they took on the labour pain for themselves, the pain that was killing Lilith and literally tearing her apart, they shared amongst themselves, Zelda was commanding everyone to push, not just Lilith at the end, it’s a collective effort....I personally feel that every one involved in that delivery who shared in that pain are not only permanently bonded to Lilith, and she to them, through the experience, but that the spell makes them all partly Mothers to Adam. They all gave birth to him in a way, so in a way they’re all his Mother. Not to the same extent Lilith is, obviously, haha, but enough for each and every one of them to have a very real and very physical bond to Adam. It’s possibly an extra factor into why they were all so obsessed with him (at least according Nick).
But I also believe it makes Hecate partly his Mother in the remote, Godly sense. As in the ‘Mother’ aspect of the Triple, but also in a a parallel to the whole ‘False God is the All Father’ vibe. Technically Adam is descended from the False God in the same way Sabrina is, but Diana had Sabrina baptised in a Christian church, whereas Adam is essentially ‘baptised’ in a church of Hecate. Sabrina’s Christian baptism gave her duality, and Adam’s, I believe, does the same for him. 
But Zelda directly says “ Dark Mother, Hecate, we call upon you, come to us. Make Lilith’s pain our pain “ It’s a request to Hecate directly, and you see, through the camera and lighting effects, the precise moment when Hecate does become present at the birth. Zelda wasn’t being High-Priestess-Pious when she tells Lilith that Hecate had blessed the birth, it was a very literal sense. Zelda called the Dark Mother to the birth, and she appeared. 
And the whole thing is inevitably bonding in general. You don’t all go through something like that without all of you being permanently bonded. Lilith, Zelda, Hilda, Mambo Marie, Prudence, and the six other unnamed young witches, are all intrinsically and inescapably bonded together now by that shared experience.
But even at the beginning, Zelda is considering Lilith one of them. Look at this dialogue:
Lilith: This baby is tearing me apart Zelda: Don’t fight it. That is the way of men. We, your sisters, are here for you. We will give you strength. We will share your pain. 
We, your sisters, are here for you. Zelda is already considering Lilith one of them there, whether that’s as in ‘all women are sisters’ ‘all witches are sisters’ or something else is entirely up to interpretation, but it’s undeniable that it’s a very inclusive choice of words. 
But yes, my fully unmoving opinion/headcanon is because of the nature of the birth and the spell and Hecate’s direct involvement, everyone sharing that pain, all those present are partly Mothers to Adam in a small yet not insignificant way. It makes Adam a child of the coven, I suppose you could say. But yeah, I believe that bond is not just a metaphorical ‘oh we went through shit’ but a very literal and physical way. 
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