#like there is not one agreed opinion and idk
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PARENTING
Pairing: Vox x fem!angel!reader
Summary: Now that little Pixel is born, you and Vox raise her thanks to a deal with Heaven and lots of chaos.
A/N: this is part two of PREGNANT, thank you sm for the request anon! Idk if it's the same one that asked for the first part but if it is I hope you like it <3
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VOX tends to get home late, so you usually spend the day with Pixel until he comes
back
At the end of his work day, he greets his daughter like she's the most precious thing in the world
Because she is
And because she came out of the second most precious thing in the world
You see him with Pixel in his lap, her little screen staring at his bigger one and babbling something unintelligible
It almost makes you cry tears of joy
Vox normally struggles to be soft around others
Well, not exactly struggles as chooses not to, because he has a reputation to maintain
But when it comes to his family he'll do anything and everything to protect them
You notice that he seems much more himself around you and Pixel
Not that you're complaining, of course
You love this vulnerable side of him more than the eccentric, manipulative businessman he purports to be
Although if you mention it to him, he'd likely deny it
Still hellbent on keeping you away from Valentino
As a friend he's great, sure, but his filthy habits near his newborn daughter and the mother of the aforementioned daughter do not sit right with him
You're wary of keeping Velvette on babysitting duty, although Vox convinces you to try it once
Not the worst babysitting shift in the history of the world, which surprised you greatly
After you gave birth, Vox moved you and Pixel to another house to separate his family from his work life
He deems it to be safer
And he would be completely correct
That's why when Alastor returns, he flips out
He's afraid of losing you and his little Pixie to that smiling freak
And if he loses everything he's worked for, how will he support his family?
Honestly, you have no qualms about his borderline homoerotic obsession with Alastor
Of all the flaws he has, that might not be number one
And he could do much worse, in your opinion
As long as he doesn't act on it, you're completely fine with it
It's true that you're an angel and he's a demon, a seraphim and an overlord no less
It makes you wonder why Sera would agree to let you keep the child and spend your maternity leave wherever you wish
Pixel is technically a hellborn, but she's the child of a blessed and a damned soul
You don't know how that would work
When she comes of age, she'll have her court case to decide her fate, since as a newborn child she's still of indeterminate morality
As hard as it would be, Vox would want her to live a blessed life
Therefore he lets you raise her to be a good person
You teach the little girl kindness, empathy, generosity and care
The sight is bittersweet for Vox
On the one hand, he's proud of seeing his own blood be a better person than he is
On the other hand, he'd miss Pixie being home at the end of every day and clinging to his leg like a vice
"My sweet girl. Thank God you're just a baby. Dad doesn't want to give you away, but he knows it's the right choice."
You hear him talk to her like that one night, and tears spill from your eyes as you overhear the conversation
It breaks your heart to see him suffer like this
To give up his own child in this way, you know full well that you wouldn't be able to if the roles were reversed
"Da-da..."
You freeze in place when a little babbling voice reaches your ears, while Vox grins so hard and his eyes glisten with tears for a brief moment
"That's right, sweetie... dad's here. Dad's here."
You sniffle softly and walk over to sit beside him, resting your head on his shoulder and stroking the top of Pixie's screen
"I can't believe it. Time flew by so fast."
"I know... suddenly I'm seeing her go off to school."
You giggle at that, kissing Vox on the cheek and running your thumb over the edge of his screen with a little sniffle
"Are you sure you're okay with me taking her to Heaven?"
Vox sighs, expression dropping from the joy of the moment as he pauses to word his reply properly
"Yeah. It's not easy, but it's what she deserves. It's the life I want her to have."
You wrap your arms around his neck when he says so, affectionately caressing the back of his screen
"I'm really sorry. I know I'd be flipping out if I were in your place."
"Oh, believe me, I am. I'm just doing a stunningly good job at covering it up."
You chuckle softly, nuzzling your nose on his screen
He laughs along with you and plants a sweet kiss on your lips, then holds both you and Pixie close to his chest
Soon Pixel grows into a pre-teen
She has already sprouted her wings and goes to school
Vox suggests that you let her go on her own, as she can fly and he has cameras everywhere
And he'd definitely maul to death anyone who tries to mess with his daughter
But you're still extremely on edge, insisting that even if he could know when she's in danger, there's no way either of you would get there in time to save her
So you drop her off and pick her up by flight every day
She doesn't like it very much, but somehow understands it's for her own good
It isn't until she's 14 that she finds out about the Radio Demon
She first overhears it while passing by Valentino's tower when she drops by the Headquarters one day and decides to ask Vox about it
"Dad?"
"Yes, dear?"
"Who's Alastor?"
Vox is visibly aggravated
Electricity zaps across his antennae and racks his entire body as he struggles not to dig his clawed fingers in the table
"Ha, ha... where did you learn that name, Pixie?"
Pixel worries for his reaction, flinching back as she stutters out a soft, "I- I- I-"
"Lady Archangel Pixel of Pride and Kindness, tell me who told you about that freak right now!"
"I- I heard Uncle Val saying that name, and- and that he hears he's back...!"
Vox is seconds away from electrocuting the entire Pentagram
So today he's going to deal with explaining to his teenage daughter about some psychopath he used to know and is learning that he's back from his child
"Oh, no, because God forbid Valentino shut his mouth for once in his fucking life!"
He slams his fist on the table and buries his screen in his hands, resting his elbows on the table and attempting to take a few deep breaths
"Dad...?"
He looks up and sees his daughter's big eyes staring at him with concern
He must have scared her with his outburst
Vox frowns and gathers her in his arms, sighing as he plants a kiss on the top of her screen
"I'm sorry, Pixie, I'm sorry. Alastor used to be my partner."
Pixel looks to the side and back at him, blinking multiple times
This conversation just took quite the turn
"I'll probably regret this, but... partner as in...?"
"Business partner! Jesus Christ, Pixel!"
The young girl sighs in relief
Honestly, he couldn't blame her for jumping to that conclusion
Vox tells her about his partnership with Alastor, everything about what he's really like and what he could do to hurt them now
He knows she's mature enough to understand
"What I want you to do now is call your mother and ask her to come pick you up. Now."
"But-"
"Now, Pixel."
Pixel hesitates, eyes flickering around with worry as she finally stared up at Vox
"Do you trust me?"
"...yes. Yes, I trust you."
"Then do as I say. Please."
She can tell something's off, her father has never acted this way before
The girl throws her arms around him, burying her face in his chest
Vox wipes the tears from her eyes and gives her a reassuring smile, holding her screen in his hands
"I love you, okay?"
"I love you, too, dad..."
He presses another kiss to her forehead and squeezes her tight
He's so terrified of letting her go, but he knows that he has to, for her own good
"Go over to aunt Velvette's and ask her to call your mother. Tell her to meet me here as soon as she can and we'll come get you."
Pixel is extremely apprehensive, but obliges either way
As she trots off to Velvette's tower, Vox gets footage of the Hazbin Hotel from Valentino
Meanwhile, you receive Velvette's call and fly over to the Headquarters as fast as possible
Vox clings to you and squeezes you tight, cupping your cheeks in his hands and looking into your eyes
"Ask for an advance on the court date."
You swear you feel your soul leave your body when he says those words
You've been dreading this for so many years
"Vox, this- this can't be the only solution."
"She's in limbo, Y/N, and right now the good in her has the edge. Request sanctuary and ask Sera to move the date. Please."
With a heavy heart, you agree
He's right, if Alastor really is back, you need to get Pixel to safety
You hug Vox close, tucking your face in the crook of his neck and letting out a sob
You don't know if you're going to see him ever again, and that terrifies both of you to your very cores
"Don't cry, my love, don't cry."
"I love you, Vox."
"I know. I love you, too."
You share a last passionate kiss before departing, tears brimming both yours and his eyes as Velvette accompanies Pixel to say her goodbyes
Vox's farewell to his child is heartbreaking
He reassures her that he loves her and it's for her own good, even if he knows that deep down she'd never forgive him
You give Vox a last kiss before opening the portal to Heaven, letting the dimensions swallow up both of you, never to see Hell for years on end
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spoiler heavy
when it comes to shipping mithrun, best candidates are kabru, pattadol, milsiril
w kabru: kabru affected the way mithrun thinks, he's a very impactful figure in mithrun's life. from sharing his past with kabru, and exploring the dungeon with him (kabru was taking care of his basic needs at this time, but honestly, mr-i've-never-had-to-cook-or-clean-in-my-life obviously had a hard time and it probably wasn't perfect, but still better than the canaries, be cause they comment on his glossier hair) they've developed a special comradery that extends outside the task at hand. kabru sympathizes with mithrun very much, and also he distrust elves, he has a soft spot for mithrun. even after kabru 'betrays' them by letting laios go, mithrun doesn't even scold mithrun and ignores him instead. mithrun cares for kabru too, he values kabru's opinions as in the ending, kabru manages to help mithrun realize the beauty of life, and continues to look out for his wellbeing. people usually say kabru is more of a nurse than a lover for mithrun, that's not really that true since mithrun only needs reminding. kabru and mithrun hold each other in respect, heck mithrun risked the entire mission because kabru said 'i want to talk laios out of it for one last time' and if that's not a bond idk what is.
w pattadol: pattadol is 2 years into adulthood, is the typical lower nobility elf, way too immature for mithrun. I can see it, but honestly, I feel like pattadol would sooner consider mithrun a paternal figure than a lover (based on how she treats and views him general, it is cithis who is his main caregiver, and pattadol probably helps out out of respect for mithrun). pattadol needs to focus on her own growth, right now she only values superficial things and while that's an interesting dynamic, mithrun doesn't have anything to like with pattadol. there's no real depth to their relationship.
w milsiril: more possible than pattadol but honestly, it's not a relationship that can spark love. milsiril didn't like former mithrun, but she took care of and checked up on mithrun during all those years from time to time. ultimately I think she and mithrun would probably agree to being a couple, but won't hold any feelings for each other. they are friends to say the least, but they hold no gentleness for each other, for milsiril mithrun is probably someone she can be herself in without masking, and that's beautiful in its own way. they both have a lot of issues to unpack by themselves.
#dungeon meshi#delicious in dungeon#dunmeshi#mithrun#dungeon meshi spoilers#shipping ig#kabru#kabru of utaya#milsiril#pattadol
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What TMA characters do you think would be as an animal? Here's a few of mine! Only just started S4 BTW so opinions may change. Also some of these I based of what the animal represents or their tendencies.
Jon - Moth vibes, dragon fly, fox, panther
Martin - maybe a fox due to appearances. Possibly Cow. Golden retriever personality S1, ooh or an Ainu maybe an artic wolf? Maybe a bear?
Tim - ferret, racoon, lizard, cool animals
Sasha - Mimic Octopus and blue jay for reasons... But yea maybe something mousey or like an owl especially for s1?
Melanie - Pygmy Goat, ram idk she just kinda guves that vibe. Like look at them and then look at her. Same thing.
Basira - crow/raven aka a corvid bcs she's smart
Daisy - wolf, Black-footed cat, other types of hunters
Elias - snake (obvi), jackal, eagle, owl, agree with the horned owl
Peter Lukas - polar bear agree with that, squid/octopus, Kelpie (not real but oh well)
Mike - birds. Idk which just birds. Preferably blue or white. Maybe the Impundulu or Alpine Chough. A goat/ram bcs thunder. Marten. Snow lepord
Michael - Adax, box jellyfish, sea slug, lilac breasted roller
Helen - butterfly, Livingstone's Cichlids, Orchid mantis
Georgie - fluffy cat! Bat, raven, Moth, black swan
Gerry - axolotl, bearded dragon, bat, again cool animals
Trevor - bear, wolf, hawk
Julia - hare, black ram, wolf
Nikola - coyote, cuttlefish, Angler Fish, vampire squid and yknow what screaching owl
Breekon & Hope - margay, rams, bulls, parrot, gorrila, tiger
Danny (Stoker) - honey badger
Any other ideas? Even if it's just one or two give it a whirl ❤️
#the magnus archives#tma#jonathan sims#elias bouchard#jon sims#The magnus crew as animals#martin blackwood#tim stoker#space#not sasha#melanie king#georgie barker#daisy tonner#basira hussain#peter lukas#mike crew#michael crew#michael#tma michael#michael distortion#Helen#helen distortion#gerry keay#tma gerry#gerard keay#nikola orsinov#Nikola#breekon and hope#trevor herbert#julia montauk
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Sometimes this site gives me a much brighter flame of hope for the future and sometimes it makes me a whole lot worse. I think that’s worth being transparent about actually
#aandddd the shitty parts of this site are really really shitty#there’s this strange agreement on some things as if tumblr is a hive mind yet#like there is not one agreed opinion and idk#i forget there’s no real answers to anything because I’m not even trying to find answers I just want comfort#i feel like a bad person for enjoying things all the time just because of being here#despite the common claim of ‘renouncing cringe’#shame is so deeply entrenched in nd people and society that it just seems so hard to let go of#it’s literally perfect for oppressed people to use to make fun of others like ‘we’re the good kind tho not them’.#the purity culture of this place is so insanely insidious because none of us will ever be clean enough for each other.#that’s why we’re human beings and not. products#tumblr’s isolated but it’s not nearly as free as anyone here would like to believe it is. nor superior#other ways to cope with shame besides more shame would be nice you know what I mean#personalposting on main sorry#LMAO AND ME NEITHER!#and I’m hypocritical just by sharing this much rn to cope lmaoooooo#i post everything I post with the hope that it might help someone#and of course I’m fucked too!#insert that article that’s like ‘we should know less about each other’ lol#the commodification of the human spirit etc etc#existential dread and capitalism and etc etc etc#vent#bbge.vent
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some of yall come into radical feminist spaces where many are just rad-aligned or feminists in general and then weirdly assume every woman you speak to must all subscribe to every radical ideology ever made just because they agree with radical feminism as if people on radblr aren't all at various stages of agreement and disagreement with radical feminism and label themselves many things besides radfem. if you come for women on here for not being "radical" enough for you despite knowing this i think you're just looking to stir up problems for no reason tbh
#like im not like a marxist feminist#if you wanna talk to them go talk to them lmao!! i agree w a lot of their takes#but i do not base my worldviews nor my feminist views around capitalism or anything similar#idk why some of yall think believing in one radical ideology means you automatically 100% believe in all the others you could possibly list#very odd every woman on here has various beliefs and opinions on radical feminism and not all the woman are even full radfems#approaching them with such hostility that they're not fulfilling your ideas of what radical means is so odd bc of that#like not all radfems will agree with other radical ideologies fully either but then getting mad when rad aligned people don't is#kinda nuts to think about like you're literally talking to a mixed group here...
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whats a dps headcanon/characterization that u cant get behind
no judgement zone
well other than mine
and anyone else who sees ur response ig
but all in good fun or ill bite
#idk i feel like we have a lot of opinions#someones gotta not agree with atleast one#dead poets#dead poets society#deadpoets#dps headcanon#dps headcanons#dps fandom#todd anderson#Neil Perry#charlie dalton#cameron richard#steven meeks#stephen meeks#knox overstreet#gerard pitts
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well hold on, if we define a character flaw as any limitation a character deals with, regardless of whether it's something Morally Wrong With Them or not, then Ford's paranoia counts as a character flaw since it does in fact negatively impact him and the people around him. Let me use better wording here: I will die on the hill that Ford's paranoia is not a moral failing.
#'i'll die on this hill' one second later: un-dies on that hill on a technicality#godsrambles#one way in which i probably differ from ford is that i could not care less about winning any arguments all i care about is being accurate#people are right about a lot of fords character flaws actually. the part they are wrong about is which ones are Moral Failings#and also people misinterpret his motivations and intentions behind things. but the flaws themselves? sure yeah people can identify those#unpopular opinion but i think ego is fine on its own too depending on how you define ego. case in point: papyrus. yknow the skeleton#it only becomes a problem when you're putting other people down. which i dont think ford is guiltless of but. the others do that too#idk sometimes when other people go 'omg... ego moment :/' im like 'a chance to hype eachother up! yay' i dont assume im being looked down o#unless thats specifically demonstrated to be happening#but the thing that kills me is that stan constantly puts other people down. but since he doesnt idk have an ego or talk weird its fine??#i very much agree with dipper when he replied to mabel with 'ford doesnt make fun of me all the time like you guys do'#and like once again. to each their own#some people see that level of making fun of people/being made fun of as just friendly banter and thats fair enough#but i really appreciate that ford isn't like that
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i think it's cute how people are like why can't we go back to post-season 2 when everyone thought mike was bi and everyone had fun :( girl there's been two seasons since then i don't think people hated mlvn as much back then either things have changed
i think bi mike is still slightly more popular but gay mike truthers are more vocal because they're usually the people who analyze the show which is certainly...interesting. also i hate how people act like this is about him loving will more or whatever believe it or not this is not about will and it's not about el either it's about him and his storyline! conformity is just a more interesting story to me than incompatibility is
#i'm not saying bi mike is as hated as mlvn i'm saying that yeah idk crazy that the last two seasons would make people rethink what we got#in the first two seasons right#posting this in the morning so no one sees it. the first paragraph actually annoys me so much like sorry for having an opinion and for not#'respecting my byler elders who founded the ship' like bro. there's two more seasons. things change. boys only#it's the moral superiority thing that gets on my nerves not the bi mike truthing itself we can agree to disagree it's whatever#and like i say: brf slt
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word of advice if you see a sonic game being widely labelled as bad you should give it a chance yourself before taking those opinions as an accurate representation of what the game is like. because the internet is just like weirdly biased towards sonic and says almost anything sonic related is bad and cringe and half the games that get put in the "bad sonic games" category arent even bad or at least have some redeeming qualities. people literally just hate fun
#also even with the ones that do have noticeable flaws#(and every game has flaws btw no game is perfect#idk why people act like sonic games are the spawn of satan for having a few glitches sometimes)#people tend to exaggerate how bad it is or try to make it look worse than it actually is#and maybe youll come out of playing those games not thinking they were very good and agreeing with the people who dislike them#but that would be ok because youre entitled to your own opinion and at least you gave the game an actual chance first#but if that Doesnt happen you could find out you really love the game#take it from me . the guy who heard sonic unleashed was really bad and then decided to play it and ended up loving it#and adopting it as a core part of my personality forever
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oh i realized why i hate disagreeing with people so much... it's because i spent YEARS trying to be the Most Agreeable Person Ever, and i lowkey panic when i just can't do that
#said disagreements aren't even a big deal. i just don't like it when opinions don't align bc idk what to do and i do NOT want to change mine#but i feel obligated to at least outwardly agree with them?? but i also dont want to be painted as spineless#which at my core i'm lowkey a defiant person... hence why i worked so hard to be Agreeable™#bc i'd previously get in trouble a LOT#mostly i just feel bad about everything. i haven't had any problems lately but i do contemplate the potential.#this is about this one time i was talking to a guy in my class and he was lowkey trying to disagree with EVERYTHING i was saying#just trying to poke holes in my argument for funsies. and to this day i am lowkey offended even though it was literally just a little debat
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Guys. I don't think Cyberlife instructed Sixty to abduct Hank. I think using Hank as emotional leverage was completely his idea especially when the instruction was probably just a really vague
"Stop Connor by any means necessary."
It was his own idea to do a spot of kidnapping and emotional extortion.
On top of that, androids don't get the same legal rights so in the instances where Hank is killed. He can't even claim self defense. In the eyes of the law he committed murder. In the eyes of the DPD, he would have a target on his back if he survived.
This is partly why I don't buy the whole "he got brought back to the DPD" nonsense. Like. No he wouldn't. He'd be on EVERYONE'S hit list. COPS DON'T LIKE COP KILLERS
#dbh sixty#dbh meta I guess? idk it's just an opinion that no one has to agree with or asked for#detroit become human#sixty is a heel guys. he already comitted 2 crimes that CL now have to disavow and strike from their records because of the sheer legality#like it's a 20 year sentence for humans. i assume it's immediate deactivation for both crimes regardless of their severity
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hottake but r.enee r.app actually wasn't that good in the new m.ean girls movie musical - y'all are just attracted to her
#not syaing she can't sing bc she can but i hate how much she changed r.egina#and i hate just. pretty much everything about this movie other than the guy playing d.amien. he was good.#what's with the weird shots during w.orld burn???#wHY CHANGE SO MUCH GOD#just film the actual broadway musical#also like idk why everyone says r.enee is the best r.egina like. i mean i respect y'all's opinions she does have a beautiful voice but#everypne's out here acting liek r.enee is THE r.egina and there was no one before or after her#sorry i just need to know that SOMEONE agrees with me pls the whole movie was one awful disaster#i need someone to validate me pls i'm begging no one ever agrees with me on my movie musical critiques even tho i am a HUGE theatre fan😭#anyways#corey talks:)#idk i may delete this later it just. it BAFFLES me.#just watched the r.evenge party scene and hated every second of it#they changed SO MUCH and FOR WHAT#and they skipped ahead a LOT#and r.enee wasn't even that good in it??? all she did was like try to pose sexily or whatever and THAT ISN'T R.EGINA#not even going to get started on c.ady or g.retchen or the weird... idk whatever the beginning of that was#okay i'm done now again sorry
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my dad watched one piece… i haven’t asked him yet what he thought. but i’m just. this man has no idea how deeply this show affects me and my brother. i doubt he even knows it’s an anime because he just watches stuff at random. but he watched the whole season and i’m just like… hello?? my dad knows who luffy is?? he’s seen three-sword style?? he has an opinion on sanji???
#opla#one piece#im sure a lot of people have experienced this since the live action came out#it’s just so wild#my dad hates anime#and like 90% of the stuff i care about#also idk what he thinks but he’s a very opinionated person#i think maybe we’ll agree on sanji#because i think the way he treats women is sometimes infantilizing but i also respect his beliefs#now that we know where he came from especially#like yeah man. i’d probably refuse to ever kick a woman too#why am i talking about sanji?#one piece is one of those things i can’t mention without going off on tangents
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#stealing this post format bc I need something like a priv account to vent and ramble on but Twitter is fuuuuucked#and that was one thing Twitter did well#idk man I get so anxious when I think I might not have 100% perfectly nailed a social interaction#which includes everything from someone just not responding immediately to me actually saying something wrong#and saying something wrong is usually not actually saying something wrong it’s saying something only like 80% of the way right#but to my perfectionism that is 100% a failure#I sent a friend a post I’d sent him before I even knew I might’ve sent it before and joked about that#and it turns out I did send it before#fuck I fucked up!! wow how awful I thought of him twice (sarcasm)#like I know it’s fine but my heart doesn’t feel that it’s fine#and it doesn’t matter how close a friend is#if I say something that is arguably just not 1000% pleasant and amiable and lovely#like having An opinion (just one)#and they don’t respond right away? or don’t immediately agree if it’s a real life conversation?#then my insides start chewing themselves up#I used to have so many opinions actually when did I get this hesitant and this afraid#who am I trying to please?#(except everyone I like) (all of them all of the time)#not feeling awesome rn I don’t even know what caused it this time#I have suspicions but they’re all dumb#well ofc they’re dumb anxiety is a manifestation of pure illogicality#and my perfectionism will make a mountain out of any molehill#for the priv#also I need that dash so the emoji isn’t just like. comically big lmao wtf
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mmm i don't like how a lot of fandom treats macaque, either
#are we noticing a pattern#idk man i always feel like 'outside' of fandom bc i don't agree with a lot of the takes that are made popular in fandom#like the one that's 'wukong can't read' when he can... he just didn't want to read in front of people#it's just hard for that to be a thing to me when he's thousands of years old and spent centuries around humans JUST learning their language#and way of life but anyway#with macaque specifically....it's the characterization#mostly but like. it's also the way they reduce him to...something he's not#if/when he makes up with wukong#it's like his personality is gone all of a sudden idk#sorry to be like negative even though i don't think this is negative it's an opinion#and i've never really been a 'jump on the bandwagon' type of person either i just take what i like and i know that's what a lot of people d#but when you don't see certain popular fandom things in my fics or something now you know why
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not to be an extreme Mike defender (i mean i am-) but i just want to point out that El's whole idea of a romantic relationship comes from tv and we all know how they are portrayed...the moment the guy and the girl confess they're making out and fucking. the amatonormativity in tv is strong, it's also why i had such a hard time coming to terms with me being aroace. when i was younger in my mind relationships=sex/making out because that's what television told me. so El probably thought the same. that now that her and Mike are dating they have to make out all the time. Mike took unhealthy relationships he sees in his life as an example (st*ncy who were kissing all the time) and El took tv romance as an example for their relationship (where there are romantic relationships protrayed as very sexual)
anyways i'm only talking about this because often when people talk about how Mike and El are unhealthy because they only make out all the time they kind of tend to make Mike into some asshole who took advantage of a naive innocent girl who didn't know better and made her think they have to kiss all the time and i just want to point out that they both were just kids and didn't know better and only took things they saw in other relationships as examples. they both are in this situation because of the heteronormativity and amatonormativity in this society so just...maybe let's not make Mike into such a villain...
#mike wheeler#el hopper#byler#anti milkvan#anyways not saying that this is how you should think about it and that my opinion is the 'right one' or something#nor am i saying that everyone who talks about this makes mike into a creep#and maybe i am at fault and it's just that the way word this i interpret this way?#idk but i finally found words for what i wanted to say about this so i'm talking about it#maybe someone will agree maybe not who knows#it just really feels like many people make it seem like them making out all the time is only Mike's idea#and that he's somehow pushing it on El#but i think that they both think that's how it's supposed to be#because neither of them saw what a real loving relationship looks like#ok i'm overexplaining myself again sorry for that i'll stop now 💀#blue's 'Mike's extreme defender' ramblings
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