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fishbone2 · 4 months

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#life is strange #chloe price #max caulfield #frank bowers #pricefield #?

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figmentof · 1 year

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#if i had a nickel for every time two middle aged gay men are found tending each others wounds, i'd have three nickels; which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened thrice

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arcadiabaytornado · 15 days

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This aspect of the Amberprice relationship fascinates me so much because how much did Rachel hide, and how much did Chloe refuse to see?

Did Rachel put on a sweet smile and lie that she was heading home when she was really going to hang out with friends that Chloe wouldn’t like? Or did Rachel tell the truth knowing that Chloe would make up a narrative in her head? Did Rachel admit to hanging out with characters that Chloe wouldn’t like, only to be met with the thought process of: “Well, she would never really enjoy hanging out with those people. She probably just wants her photo taken.”

The game very much says that both are true, but we don’t have the finer details. For example: Chloe says that Rachel lied to her about Frank, though we don’t know what the lie was or the maginitude of the lie. Did Rachel tell Chloe that she wasn’t romantically involved with Frank and she was crazy for even thinking so? Or did Rachel say that she was “just” flirting with him, and Chloe downplayed what that meant because she couldn’t face the idea that Rachel was moving on without her?

It’s so interesting to think about because we only see Chloe’s side of the story. She feels like Rachel deceived her, and we know that’s true because of the junkyard letter where Rachel blatantly says that she’s keeping her “romance” with Mark a secret. However, I do sometimes wonder how much Chloe refused to see what was right in front of her, especially because her first reaction to Rachel and Frank was to go into denial and justify it to herself.

This is one aspect of Amberprice I think about all the time because, while Rachel clearly wasn’t a 100% honest person, Chloe was clearly turning a blind eye to things as well. I think “How much did Rachel lie about, and how much was obvious but Chloe either downplayed or chose not to pay attention to?” is a genuine question because the answer majorly changes things about their dynamic. Personally, I imagine it as a bit of a 50/50 split, but that answer isn’t set in stone.

#I'm thinking about comic Rachel casually telling Chloe that she's going to see Frank and having a lot of thoughts about it #Rachel Amber #Chloe Price #LIS #life is strange #before the storm

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tampire · 1 year

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The Last of Us / Strange Way of Life

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tangent101 · 5 months

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Have we gotten Rachel wrong this whole time?

There are plenty of theories about Rachel Amber in the LiS community. Some folks like to think of her as a manipulator who only was out for herself. We have others who think she was deep in love with Chloe and would never cheat on her and everything she did was to get her and Chloe out of Arcadia Bay. It seems like everyone looks at Rachel and sees something new. But… what if we were all wrong? What if Rachel was something else… someone who tried avoiding conflict by talking to people and agreeing with them… and thus everyone saw her as they wanted to see her?

There is actually some evidence toward this in the game. First, Chloe herself points this out, though in a way that is perhaps less than flattering: "She blended like a chameleon. Clearly more than I knew… or wanted to know…." People take this as to Rachel was able to see what makes a person tick and just become the person that someone else wanted… but we can see several people who had a rather negative view of Rachel. So what is it about those people that had a negative viewpoint of Rachel?

First, we have David Madsen, who detested Rachel and saw her as a bad influence and a criminal. He was investigating Rachel and had photographs he felt were of her being a drug mule. Next, we had a truck driver who talked about Rachel really wanting to get out of town. And of course there is Mark Jefferson who also had a… twisted view of Rachel, though it also seems Rachel was so enthralled by Jefferson that she may have been sleeping with him (and both Stella and Victoria seem to be interested in what's going on in Jefferson's pants as well, though I'm not sure why, he's not that charming).

The truth is that Rachel was something other than a manipulative gold-digger or the like. She were a teenage girl who disliked conflict and was adept at listening to people and when talking to them would agree with them? I mean, consider her two breakup letters, one to Frank and one to Chloe? Rachel so wanted to avoid conflict that she left a letter to Frank because he scared her. She did not want a fight. She wanted out. So she left… with a note basically giving her reasons and essentially ending things. (Frank thankfully accepted that.)

Chloe also got a letter. Honestly… given it was all crumpled up, I half-wonder if Chloe had read it while high one time and crumpled it up and forgot about it afterward. But we have a very important line here: I don't want you to hate me. I don't want you to hate me. That's a very interesting thing to say. There is no deliberate malice, this is someone who has found someone else who just rings all those bells but wants to keep the friend aspect. She still wants the laughter, the moments of sharing a glance and both having the same thought, the things she envisions friends do… but to walk away from the sensual intimacy.

Remember what Victoria Chase said to Max in the Dark Room, that she was just a teenage girl? That's Rachel. Rachel Amber was not a seductress or a narcissist or a monster. She was a teenage girl who was avoiding conflict in her life, but in doing so ended up in a shallow grave in a junkyard. Because quiet girls don't make history… they end up used, abused, and discarded. They end up on the rooftops willing to throw themselves to their deaths because no one would listen to them. They end up abandoned because they were not good enough, because they ultimately were not willing to stand up to those who would use them.

Max, before Chloe reentered her life, was one of those quiet girls who ends up used and discarded. The reason folks keep seeing Rachel in Max is because Rachel stayed quiet and let people make up their own minds about her. And they saw in her what they wanted.

Or at least, it's one way to interpret Rachel Amber.

#rachel amber #max caulfield #chloe price #chloe and rachel #amberprice #frank bowers #mark jefferson #david madsen #life is strange #life is strange speculation

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chloe-caulfield94 · 5 months

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Chloe's reaction to Rachel's and Frank's photograph

Chloe's angry reaction to finding Rachel's and Frank's photographs, especially her angry tirade how everyone in her life keeps letting her down, is brought up as an example of Chloe being self-absorbed and demanding. "Selfish", as she herself would put it in her darkest moment.

But I think her anger in that moment is not only understandable, it is justified.

When I played the game for the first time, I thought that her anger in that moment was caused by jealousy. She found out that the girl she was in love with not only didn't love her back, but was sleeping with (and possibly in love with) someone else.

But now I think her anger was caused by something else. It was anger at seeing the foundations of her life unraveling again, through no fault of her own.

Before William's accident, Chloe was a daddy's girl, straight-As student from the suburbs. Before her father's death it was easy for Chloe to believe that putting effort into building her life made sense and paid off. She tried to be a good daughter, good friend and good student. And those efforts gave fruit - her close relation with her parents, her strong friendship with Max, her academic achievements.

But then William died and Max's parents moved her to Seattle. Despite Chloe's best efforts, her life collapsed, through no fault of her own. The two pillars of her life - family and friendship - were torn down by forces outside of her control. So she didn't bother fighting to keep the last pillar - her academic achievements - standing. Why would she bother? What's the point of building anything if it can be torn down at any moment? She became resigned. She thought her life ended before it even properly began.

But then she started to build again. Her future with Rachel. A fresh start, far beyond Arcadia Bay. How enticing the prospect of beginning anew must have been to someone who thought their life was already over?

When Chloe first floated the idea of skipping town, she didn't really mean it. She just said it to express her negative attitude towards the town that treated her with disdain. But when Rachel took it seriously, Chloe quickly warmed up to the idea too. And soon, that idea became the only thing allowing her to go on. The only thing that she was willing to put effort into. The only thing she was willing to build.

In two days, she fixed up a broken wreck into a working vehicle. She kept tinkering with it, even though it took considerable amount of effort and money (that she never had in abundance, to say the least). Just look at the repair bills in her room. She did that so she and Rachel had the means to leave town.

To leave town and begin anew, especially in a large, expensive city, Chloe and Rachel needed money. Chloe was willing to do anything and everything to scrounge money for their new life together. When Frank offered her a job collecting Drew's debt, Chloe's first thought was that it would be 100 dollars towards skipping town with Rachel. From conversations Chloe has with Max in Season 1 it seems pretty clear that she did many more such jobs for Frank over the years (she said she hung around with Frank for money, but also emphatically denied he was ever one of her "bad boys"). Chloe was willing to become an accomplice to a violent criminal who treated her like shit, just to earn some cash for her escape with Rachel.

It is never clearly explained how her 3000 USD debt to Frank came to be. Perhaps he captured her in a debt spiral, balooning an initially small sum of money by adding outrageous "interest", as criminals like to do. Maybe Frank used the fact that Chloe's depressed mind and body craved weed, a natural anti-depressant, so he kept giving her "little somethings" and putting them on the tab, until it accumulated to a sum large enough he started using his switchblade in attempts to collect.

But given that the bill for Chloe's truck's repairs is almost exactly 3000 dollars, it is possible, if not probable, that she borrowed the money for that exact purpose. Keep in mind that Chloe's truck is fully functional in Season 1. It doesn't look like a vehicle needing 3000 dollars in essential repairs anymore, which would probably render it inoperable.

And Chloe was even willing to pretend to be interested in Nathan, someone who always treated her with disdain and hostility, even when she saved him from bullying and played the matchmaker between him and Samantha. She was willing to pretend to be interested in him just for an opportunity to swipe a couple hundred bucks from his wallet. She bet on Nathan getting drunk. How far would she go if he didn't?

Chloe was willing to put any and all effort to build her future life with Rachel. She fixed up a broken truck specifically so that the two of them would have an escape vehicle. She did odd jobs for a violent criminal to scrounge up money for them. She possibly went heavily into debt with said violent criminal, just to keep the car they needed to escape operational. She was willing to debase herself by pretending to be interested in Nathan, just to swipe a little bit of cash for her and Rachel. And from her perspective, she almost got date raped because of that.

Chloe's commitment to fulfilling Rachel's dream of skipping town was absolute. Her life was based around that dream.

To discover that Rachel never actually intended to leave town with her must have been crushing for Chloe. The dream that she worked so hard for, that she suffered for, that she swallowed her pride for, turned out to be a lie. Rachel would never skip town with her. The chance for a new life, for a fresh start somewhere else, turned out to be a mirage. Once again, her life collapsed. The construction she had put great effort into once again was torn down, through no fault of her own, because of actions of other people that were outside her control.

When Chloe asks why didn't Rachel tell her about Frank, Max responds "because she knew how you would react". Max doesn't know the ins and outs of Chloe's and Rachel's friendship. She probably also thought, like I did initially, that Chloe was just being jealous about a girl she had a crush on. So Max thought Rachel kept quiet about Frank, because she didn't want Chloe to throw a jealous fit.

But that's not what Chloe meant. Chloe didn't ask why Rachel didn't tell her she was taken. Chloe asked why didn't Rachel tell her she wasn't actually going to leave town with her. Why did she keep her hanging on? Why didn't she realease her from the mesmerizing promise of a better tomorrow if she knew it was a lie? Why did she allow Chloe to live in a lie for years?

Chloe's anger is not jealousy. It's the anger of someone who just found out that the only thing keeping them going on was a lie. That once again, everything she'd built was torn down by someone else. Yes, if Rachel ever told her about Frank, Chloe would've been angry. Because Rachel should've told her that she wasn't actually going to leave town. Not with her. She should've released Chloe from the hold she had over her, instead of letting her build something condemned from the start.

Chloe's words about Rachel "betraying her" and "not being much of a friend, just another person shitting on her" are harsh. But how would you call promising someone hopeless a better tomorrow, a future together and then taking such a gift back?

I don't think that Rachel wanted to hurt Chloe. Just like I would never think Max wanted to hurt Chloe by not writing letters, not calling and not responding to texts. I think that for the first few months after William's death Max had no idea how to comfort a friend with a dead dad. And after that she was ashamed of her silence and assumed Chloe had moved on.

But sometimes people end up hurting others even if that wasn't their intention, especially if they hurt them with indifference. Maybe Rachel thought Chloe would get the hint and realize their joint escape from town was no longer on the table on her own. Maybe she thought it was none of Chloe's business who she was dating. But no matter what motivated her, she did hurt Chloe. Unfortunately, unlike Max, she never got the chance to make up for that hurt to her friend.

#chloe price #max caulfield #pricefield #rachel amber #life is strange #lis #frank bowers

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flannelfaeries · 23 days

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*does the stanky leg* congrats! autism!

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pricefieldizcanon · 4 months

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Max protects her precious Chloe from Frank ❤️🥺

Max didn't even hesitate to pull the trigger to defend her lover from Frank. It's beautiful protective Max is of Chloe and vice versa. ❤️

GIFs made by me.

#life is strange #lesbians #chloe price #max caulfield #wlw #pricefield #lis #max x chloe #max and chloe #frank life is strange #frank lis #frank bowers

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weirdgirlbutch · 2 years

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#life is strange #victoria chase #rachel amber #chloe price #max caulfield #pricefield #amberprice #to be clear i support the right to murder frank

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whatsjulietslastname · 2 months

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Actually, Rachel was being groomed no matter if she was 18, no matter if she ‘knew what she was doing’, no matter if she was ‘manipulating Frank’, no matter if he ‘waited until she was an adult’, because he had power over her being her dealer and way older than her and also what she saw as her key to leave Arcadia Bay (we all know that was what she wanted the most at time). Also, a grown ass man waiting for you to be an adult until he can jump you doesn’t make the relationship okay, it’s just even weirder. Same goes to Jefferson btw but I think it’s useless to precise it at this point. Hope that helps! :)

(Please stop hating on Rachel I’m tired)

#rachel amber #frank bowers #mark jefferson #life is strange #life is strange before the storm #lis bts

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lifeisstrange-incorrectquotes · 1 year

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Kate: What is the proper way to deal with a guy annoying you?

Chloe: A knife.

Max: No!

Nathan: Two knives?

Max: No.

Frank: Three knives?

Max: No...

Rachel: You guys are savages.

Max: Finally! Someone with common sense-

Rachel: The proper way is an untraceable poison.

Max: ...You're all insane.

#kate marsh #chloe price #max caulfield #nathan prescott #frank bowers #rachel amber #life is memes #life is strange #life is strange before the storm #incorrect quotes #incorrect life is strange quotes

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amberpriceenthusiast · 1 year

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Friendly reminder that Rachel never cheated because her and chloe were not official. Rachel was free to do what she wanted. Yes she should have told Chloe about Frank and Jefferson, but it makes total sense for her not to. Jefferson probably told her that she wasn’t allowed to tell anyone. With Frank I honestly believe that she was seeing him to find a way out of Arcadia. Rachel was just a teenager, she made mistakes but she’s not some super villain. She did love Chloe, she screwed up, but she did love chloe, she wasn’t just using her.

#life is strange #lis bts #life is strange bts #lis before the storm #before the storm #rachel amber #amberprice #frank bowers #mark jefferson

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rachelambrr · 1 year

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how people perceive rachel amber

#my art #life is strange #life is strange before the storm #rachel amber #chloe price #amberprice #mark jefferson #frank bowers #nathan prescott

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arcadiabaytornado · 3 months

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How do you think the LiS characters would reply to that tweet of Elmo asking how everyone is doing?

Max: "As Elizabeth Scott once said "Things change. Stuff happens. Life goes on."

Chloe: "Pretty Good" *Posts Picture Of Her Smoking From A Bong*

Rachel: "My life's gone really downhill lately. I found out my dad, who was like…my hero, cheated on my Mom with this woman…and it turns out that woman was my Mom -"

Sean: "I would be doing better if my brother would give me back my sketchpad."

Alex: "Oh Elmo. You're so brave to ask this on the internet."

Steph: *Leaves Elmo On Read*

Ryan: "Pretty good. Thanks for asking, Elmo."

#lis #life is strange #max caulfield #chloe price #rachel amber #sean diaz #alex chen #steph gringrich #ryan lucan #bill-and-franks-garden

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luckylulu82 · 4 months

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what an honor!