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obsidianstrawberrymilk · 2 years

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Anyway so there’s something so interesting about Kon’s fear of responsibility and how it’s been reflected from how no one really wants him. Lex Luthor wanted a toy, essentially, an object that was good for the cameras and did what he wanted - he manipulated and abused him and he didn’t care even enough to give Kon a proper NAME. And then we have Clark, and like, I understand Clark’s reaction, how he essentially refuses to have a relationship w Kon for the longest time but the fact remains that Kon was a lost person with the experience of a toddler and the mind of a teenager who’s only ever experienced manipulation before and like this is someone who’s supposedly equal to a god, who’s supposed to be this paragon of righteousness and even he doesn’t want him, even he just sort of leaves him with Ma and Pa Kent, and yeah, they’re amazing, but the fact remains it’s still just someone else who doesn’t care enough to try and build a relationship with him.

And it’s like- Kon is selfish and irresponsible yet he’s also the friend who cares for everyone and scolds them even while he’s reckless. He’s a reflection of how the people around him have treated him while also trying to like not be that! He’s only ever experienced selfishness and abandonment and surface level relationships but he wants more, he wants someone to love him unconditionally and I believe HE WANTS to be that for someone too, so that’s why there’s Kon “Mom Friend” Kent alongside how he’s self centered and reckless and has some issues w commitment.

And like, I don’t mean to say Clark is at fault there, because Kon’s very existence to him represents a violation, his DNA was taken without his permission to make someone who’s there to replace him and who literally did just that for a while. It’s understandable he’s hesitant. But like, Kon didn’t ask to be made, he didn’t ask for any of that, and it’s like he’s just getting the brunt of the consequences anyway.

It’s just so interesting idk

#kon el kent #conner kent #clark kent #superboy #superman #dc #dcu #superfam #superfam dc #superfamily #lex luthor #meta #kon el is a v interesting character to me #i cant find as much on him in fandom as i would like but comics him is v cool too #yj him is so boring istg #hes just there #but comics him is a lot of fun #character analysis

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baambastic · 2 years

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Thoughts on Battle of the Super Sons (major spoilers for the entire plot):

Grazer is great as Jon

Laura Bailey’s Lois is great

I don’t particularly care for Travis Willingham’s Clark. His Superman is fine, but his voice sounds wrong coming out of mild-mannered journalist Clark Kent.

Love the whole opening. Especially love the old comics-style (complete with benday dots) montage of Clark’s life up until Jon’s birth

Glad to see we’re skipping the complicated multiverse stuff

Jon immediately jumping to “cosplay” as the reason for the Superman costume under the bed has made my day

But also Clark why was it just under your bed. Presumably while you were on a League mission for two weeks.

“I don’t care that you’re sorry! I just want you to be here!” OOF

The child is very sad, but at least the cat’s alive!

Jon feels like an actual kid, constantly excited by all the superhero stuff

They mentioned Kon!

Oh wow this movie has blood in it. I’m a bit surprised, even with the age rating

Tom Kenny Penguin! Haven’t heard that since 2004

Troy Baker doesn’t really sound like he wants to be here

It’s not Super Sons if Damian doesn’t make me want to punt him out the nearest window at first

Damian continues his bad habit of pushing kids to their deaths in the Batcave.

They did not make Jon an uwu soft bean, and for that I am grateful. He dishes out sass equal to or greater than Damian’s.

Also Griffo really sold how Damian felt about being rejected by the Titans. Really solid

Griffo’s Damian voice sounds like Damian’s trying to copy Batman’s gruff voice. I like it

Why is Damian the only person in this movie who says Jon and not Jonathan?

BAT-COW!!!!

Using two members of each main young hero team (Teen Titans, TT2003, YJ Animated (not the ‘98 version bc of overlap with TT2003)) for the Teen Titans is an interesting idea

Kind of surprising that Ollie and J’onn are the only other League members we get to see on the Watchtower

Blue Beetle and Hawkman (and I think the Atom?) were also shown on Starro’s hitlist, so it’s weird that they’re nowhere to be seen

I still need to get my hands on a hoodie like Jon’s

Those students have really low standards for insults

Bruce Don’t Beat Up Your Son Challenge (success on technicality of mind control)

Also, really effective body horror for something so bloodless

Damian you big softy

More body horror. yay

I dunno why i’m surprised Damian suggested killing Lois

Yo they made Krypto scary. Nice

Jor-El why did you send them to the watchtower if you thought they were probably gonna die

Lois continues to be awesome

Nice to see you, J’onn. Too bad you don’t get to do anything.

The dynamic between Lois and Lex is always fun to watch

Interesting Starro design. A bit too spiky for my tastes tho

“I’ve eliminated all human-based problems on your planet.” “You’re going to eat the planet!” “Correct.” Love that

Aw, poor baby demon brat

Oh, I never thought I’d see the day that Lois Lane used a DIY flamethrower on Lex Luthor. Incredible

I question the decision to include two green-skinned shapeshifters in the same fight scene

Speaking of, that’s a really cool effect they’ve got on J’onn when he’s burning

Jesus. No punches pulled on the sons v dads fight

Batman got punched out by an 11-year-old farmboy. He’ll never live that down

Man, this evacuation scene is wholesome

“I don’t know” *pushes all the buttons*

This whole Starro burning scene is very visceral, I gotta say

Jon and Dami are adorable, even when they think they’re about to die

Superdad to the rescue, with Jon looking like he’s about to cry with relief

Bathug! (they’re so awkward lol)

Starro covered in charred flesh? No thanks, I’m good

I think that lake water might be one of the few 2D animated things in this movie

Even with the character development, Damian’s still a demon brat (positive)

Aw, he’s so excited to go to Jon’s game

“Gotham’s Billionaire Prince Bruce Wayne Spotted With Son Damian at Middle School Baseball Game in Smallville, Kansas”

“Still can’t fly” *pained groans can be heard from the ground below*

They really didn’t mention any of the other Bats, huh? That’s surprising.

I’m guessing, since Jon can actually control his powers, all that stuff with Kathy and the milk hasn’t happened here

Battle of the Super Sons was a ton of fun! It has good writing, good humor, good emotional moments, and is consistently nice to look at. Shame it’s only got a 6.7 on imdb. I honestly might prefer this over the original Super Sons comics run

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thevindicativevordan · 1 year

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Comics this week?

Action Comics #1051 - Fantastic kick off to the Dawn of DC era for Superman. All of the Superfamily had a nice little character moment here, Kara welcoming the twins to the El family, Kon and Kenan have the makings of a great friendship/rivalry, Jon realizing his parents still have sex and feeling conflicted over the twins, the Irons' stepping up to change Metropolis with their genius, and unveilling a new tower bigger than Lexcorp's. Lois gets the article which sets the stage, and Clark of course remains the main character. His speech to the Superfamily in his apartment where he outlines his aim in bringing them together is classic Superman, and I'm usually not one for Superman giving speeches, but I loved that because it's him hyping his team to go out and kick some ass. Sandoval draws it all beautifully, the action scenes, the quiet moments, Lord let him stick around for a while and not get poached like Sampere and Federeci did. Nothing major with Metallo just yet, but his complaining about his skin grafts leaves me optimistic he won't be looking human for long.

Justice Society of America #2 - I'm becoming bored with this title quickly. Johns is seemingly only interested in Helena Wayne rather than the titular team itself, they mostly stand around getting killed off or gaping in astonishment as Helena infodumps. Giving it one more issue but then I'm out. Oh and "Justice Society Dark" is a stupid name, why not use the Sentinels of Magic Johns? You created that name!

Detective Comics #1068 - Ok Ram V you've finally hooked me. I love seeing Two-Face's inner war with himself, and I'm excited what comes next now that Two-Face knows Bruce is Batman.

One Bad Day: Catwoman - As a Catwoman story this was solid, but it failed to live up to brand name. If you're aiming to do a "Killing Joke" story for Selina, she should have been completely evil. For all it's failings, King's Riddler story understood the intent behind this brand, The Killing Joke completely redefined the relationship between Joker and Batman, while simultaneously pushing Joker beyond the pale in terms of what he was willing to do, and what his goals were. King's Riddler likewise showed Riddler tossing his old approach to being a villain, and doing so threw Batman off his game for once. This is just a bog standard Catwoman story. She wants to steal something, turns out she has a sympathetic motive for doing so, Batman says "don't", they flirt and kiss, and at the end Selina is... basically the same as ever. To really do a "Killing Joke" for her, this would need to be a story where Selina embraces being a villain, ruthlessly steals for selfish reasons, and steals in ways that are going to hurt innocents. Ending would be the BatCat romance dissolving for good, and Batman despairing that Gotham managed to finally drag her into the pit.

Human Target #11 - Turns out the femme fatale was the killer all along, who could have seen that coming. Great issue all the same, now we see if Chance actually dies next issue or if there's one last twist to come. He's the man who dies for other people as a living, can't decide whether it's more fitting for him to actually die or to pull one last con on death.

Lazarus Planet: We Once Were Gods -

Aquaman: Beautiful Manupal art, solid story. Could we maybe see Manupal write the next Aquaman ongoing?

Martian Manhunter: Odd plot but I enjoyed Watters voice for J'onn and I want to see a proper Martian Manhunter book from him.

Wonder Woman: Shocker I'm sure, but I liked the PKJ story. Didn't expect him to reference the clay origin, feels like some of the writers are trying to sneak it back into canon. If Gadot is finished as Wonder Woman perhaps DC might be considering restoring the old origin, since synergy wouldn't be holding them back anymore.

Shazam: Campbell did a good job as expected. What surprised me was that her Malik had a similar voice as Priest's, but minus some of the cringe that Priest gave him. Malik came across as a dweeb without being a cartoon, which makes him much more tolerable.

Blue Beetle: Graduation Day #3 - Not the Reach but an offshoot of the Reach called the Horizon are the ones planning to invade Earth? Or they've caught wind of the Reach planning another invasion attempt, and sent their own Beetles in an attempt to thwart them? Must admit to being confused on that point.

Sins of Sinister #1 - Good issue. Brings the focus back on Hickman's plots which has been missing for a while. The Moiras are in the hands of someone else, likely suspects are Destiny/Mystique, one of the other Sinisters, or the Sinisterized Quiet Council. But I'm leaning towards it being Moira XI, who is not shown to die alongside Nimrod. Moira XI using her clones to send knowledge of the future back to her past self - who then exposes the Sinisterized QC in the past and also uses the SoS timeline to get humanity afraid of mutants again - would be a way to make this timeline "matter" in terms of it having an impact on the "present".

Sabretooth & The Exiles #3 - Merely solid rather than transcendent the way the first two issues were. I am intrigued to see the payoff for that cliffhanger since I don't have a clue how that could happen.

#weekly reviews #superman #sins of sinister

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emperorsfoot · 3 years

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Kon-el for the character ask thing

Why I like them

I have a special weakness for characters with daddy issues. Extra points if they have dark hair, and more extra points if they’re non-human or part non-human in some way. Kon-El hits three of my buttons.

Why I don’t

My complaints about Kon are not so much about him, but about how the writers treat him. Constantly swapping from one adult guardian to another. First a sleazy media agent, then Red Tornado and a group of his peers, then the Kents. In the Young Justice cartoon he didn't even get the sleazy media agent, he was just given right over to a group of his peers for supervision with only the occasional check-up from Red Tornado or Black Canary. Kon-El has never had a stable home.

That’s bad enough, but then they also keep pairing him with terrible love interests. Knock-Out who’s an adult woman and a seasoned warrior, while at the time he was still fresh out of the tube. Tana Moon was another adult and was mostly using him for the media exposure (although, for a long their ‘romance’ was just a one-sided crush on Kon’s part that Tana did not reciprocate, so, actually, Tana’s probably one of the better love interests he’s had). But the worst, the absolute worst love interest they ever gave him was in the Young Justice cartoon, M’gann M’orzz. Whom manipulated him, used him, groomed him, and mentally abused him!

Favorite episode (scene if movie)

It’s a really tiny one panel moment. But Tim has just made fun of one of Kon’s shows and Kon gets mad. But whatever inker or colorist was in charge of that issue didn't give him pupils, so it looks like Kon is going white-eyes feral at someone ragging on his fandom. That’s very relatable to me.

Favorite season/movie

I liked the mid-late 90s run of the Young Justice comics. They tackled serious issues like school shootings and processing trauma, but paces it. Breaking up the serious issues with trips to Hell the Disco Inferno.

Favorite line

I actually don’t have one. Kon is kinda cheesy. Even back in the 90s when he was new and his slang was relevant. He tried too hard. Poor boy just wanted some attention.

Favorite outfit

original 90s Super suit with the V-wait, the leather jacket, the rose-colored glasses, and the earring on his left ear!

OTP

Tim Drake/Kon-El

Brotp

also, Tim/Kon

Head Canon

When Kon isn't wearing any kind of “Super” branded clothing, Bruce Wayne cannot tell him apart from any of his other adopted children. There’s just another dark haired, blue eyed teenager having breakfast at his table.

Unpopular opinion

Kon deserves better! Every writer that’s handled him has done him dirty.

A wish

Would be amazing if Kon-El got his own TV show with the level of story quality and emotional depth as the DCAU shows (Justice League, Justice League Unlimited, Batman Beyond, etc.), but with the art of he new Voltron.

An oh-god-please-dont-ever-happen

I do not want to speak it into reality.

5 words to best describe them

Fresh, Cheesy, Energetic, Angst, Icon

My nickname for them

I don’t think I have one.

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