#jo has thoughts

[queenhawke]

ok here’s all my Thoughts about mq s3 and why it’s probably the weakest season so far.

tl;dr It just feels like they wrote themselves into a corner with how s2 ended and then didn’t know how to continue on from there. And it’s disappointing! It’s back to how it was in s1 where the only real strong character arc is Ian and Poppy’s, and the rest of the characters are just kinda… there to do funny stuff. And it’s not the worst thing in the world and they kiiiinda pull it together a little in the finale, but it’s disappointing because we know they can do good character arcs for all the characters simultaneously, because they did that in s2! Also fuck NFTs

Rest is under a read more bc I told y’all I’d write a novel

let’s compliment sandwich this so good things first:

The GrimPop storyline was good! Easily the strongest aspect of the season, tho I feel like Ian Winger-speeching himself out of the conflict was maybe a bit too easy? It was a good speech, I liked it, it fits their weird toxic codependent relationship well, but I would have liked to see him doing more for Poppy. Ah well, still good.

The bad is uhhh a lot. I don’t even know where to begin.

Actually let’s start with the metaverse/NFT shit, because it was shit and really soured me on the first half of the season. I get why these topics were included, it was a hot issue when they were writing the season, but it sucks how they were implemented. First off, it’s aged like milk, what with the multiple crypto crashes and NFTs kinda disappearing out of the collective consiousness (thank christ). Second, the fact that there’s no talk of the negative aspects of NFTs. Atrocious, especially concerning Rachel, who, being ostensibly the leftist of the group, should really at the very least have brought up the negative impact on the environment that NFTs/crypto has. Unfortunately, it does make sense why this happened. Ubisoft was one of the first game companies to use NFTs in their games, and Rob Mcelhenney owns one of those ugly fucking apes (I hope for his sake he’s sold it already), so he’s clearly invested in this shit. Obviously neither was gonna shittalk NFTs when they have such a big monetary stake in them. Hugely disappointing, but not surprising.

Now the characters... let’s start with Dana, because her “character development” was easily the most baffling to me. Like. Who is this? Where did this mini-Ian come from? This isn’t who Dana was. She had confidence, sure, but not Ian levels of delusional confidence. And like, what was the point of making her so much like Ian? How did that serve her character? Most she did was act like a kind of mediator between Ian and Poppy, but what did it do for her? The last ep kinda wrangles this into her being fed up with them and starting her own thing, but like, she was happy to hang out with Ian for most of the season. I dunno, I can kinda see what they were going for, but it doesn’t feel like there was a proper build-up to that final episode.

Let’s go to everyone’s favourite tumblr sexyman, Brad. Again, the last episode blatantly states his “arc” (working his way up to being in power again), but like. All the stuff inbetween doesn’t feel like it really adds up to anything. I mean, what did him being the janitor really... do. He acts like he’s up to something, but then he isn’t, and by ep 3 he’s already just doing HOMIE stuff again. I think it could have been so much more fun if he’d actually used his position as a janitor to weasel his way back into monetization. Like, digging up dirt on people and stuff. And again the build-up to the finale wasn’t really there. Oh, he wants a challenge now? He never talked about that. Where did that come from? Why not seed that more? Also, would have liked for his eating disorder to be addressed more. It’s so rare to see men with eating disorders on tv, it could’ve been something special. Maybe next season.

Rachel... I’m highly skeptical of her suddenly being “dumb”. Like sure, she was always shown to be a little airheaded, but it feels like they really turned it up to 11 and like... for what? It reminds me too much of how Britta was treated in later seasons of Community, and that was shitty then and is shitty now. It’s just wild to me that they’d have this whole arc in s2 about her finding her passion, and then they just throw it away. She could’ve been the new writer instead of the new HOMIE! Also, if she’s so dumb, how can she be made the new HOMIE at all. That’s a high fucking position, and you expect me to believe they just gave that to some rando ex-tester? I know MQ isn’t realistic, but I have my limits. And then they kinda lampshade that by having Brad be like “oh I engineered this” but that just feels lazy. Like my brother in christ you put her in this storyline, don’t act like it all meant nothing now. Also I know capitalism is a hell of a drug and I love me a corruption arc but could we for once have a leftist character on tv who like. Sticks to their guns and isn’t a massive hypocrite. Please.

THE LACK OF REAL STORYLINE BETWEEN BRAD AND JO. Hello he went to jail for her??? Hello?? Can we address this? Even a little? Maybe in the ep called TO CATCH A MOUSE?? It wasn’t even a mouse but you named it To Catch A Mouse and then you don’t have some sort of conversation between the mouse and the shark hello? Do I have to do everything myself around here??

Also, C.W. @kaitcake1289​ already wrote a good post on this but I’d just like to reiterate what a disappointment it is that his death seemingly has zero impact on anyone. And it could have been such a good way to tie all the characters together, which I think was sorely needed with how divided they were between MQ and GrimPop. The grief they would all feel from losing the studio’s weirdo grandpa could have been such a nice overarching theme. And it could all impact them in different ways and drive their arcs this season! Just a missed opportunity, and frankly a weird way to treat the death of one of the major characters. Even Pierce’s death in Community was more impactful, and he left because there was major beef between the actor and the showrunner.

I’m a bit hmm about the idea of Dana/Jo/Brad in their own studio, bc I just don’t think splitting the characters up like this worked out this season, but we’ll see. I hope they have an actual plan this time lmao.

Okay other end of the compliment sandwich uhhhhh. I think David’s arc was decent. It was nice to see him get along with Jo and to see him stand up for himself. Um. The Christmas ep was very good. Sarian was another banger backstory ep. In general there were loads of jokes I liked! I’m just disappointed with how the characters that weren’t Ian or Poppy were treated.

#mythic quest #jo has thoughts #many thoughts #not sure it all makes sense #anyway #s2 > s1 > s3 u cannot change my mind

[starstriix]

is it just me or do some people exaggerate or misinterpret jo's interactions with brick. I've seen jock being called "physically abusive"???? the ONLY violent thing jo has done out of malicious intent towards brick was crush his hand to assert dominance. That is absolutely nothing to how jo treats other people (throwing cameron like a ragdoll, using lightning as shark bait, hell she was about to beat the shit out of dawn), or how canon couples have treated each other in the show (cartoon slapstick, guys. I’m not saying they’re physically abusive).

I don't even count the slapping thing because it was in a "snap out of it, man!" way and it was def out of concern judging by the look on her face. The most jo does to brick is call him mean names or strategize against him which she does to literally everyone. Even brick sees it as her trying to annoy him. He literally takes part in their competition as well; it's not jo harassing him, it's a RIVALRY. She just teases him the most because she interacts with him the most (because she LIKES competing with him).

Idk i don't like basing how she'd act in a relationship on how she acts in a competition to win a million dollars, and I don't like when people portray their relationship as if brick's some poor defenseless victim to jo's antics. It's a rivalry.

#people babying brick is a whole nother discussion #and acting as if the military was forced onto him #he has a tank night light. tell me that boy doesn't love being a cadet #td jo #this is kinda jock but mainly abt their canon relationship #total drama #td brick #feel kinda anxious posting this but i'm tired #calling jock abusive is like calling every jo ship abusive atp #she's mean to EVERYONE #sorry for the super messy rant. I just have a lot of thoughts and they blend together

[a-dotrivenitupontop]

WOKE MYTHIC QUEST BE LIKE:

THEYvid brittlesbee

iTRANS grimm

poppy liwanFAG

brad

dana BIant

GAYchel

jo HOMO

#mythic quest #this has probably been down already but oh well #i thought of liwanfag and that was so inspired if i do say so myself that i couldn’t not make this post #david brittlesbee #ian grimm #poppy li #brad bakshi #dana bryant #rachel mythic quest #jo mythic quest #tw f slur #f slur tw

[mitamicah]

I really want to draw the 'Jere with ice lashes' picture(s) but so many more talented artist have already done it (and I don't want to be repetitive if that makes sense)- idk if I lost my shot or not. Would you guys want to see it or should I let this one go and focus on some other projects :'D?

#i guess this is the curse of following so many great artists in the jo and käärijä fandoms #comparisons between you and other baby boos/kääryleet is way too easy #it has triggered my imposter syndrome a lot #which hasn't helped on my motivation to draw :'D #micahs thoughts

[undercoverpena]

me (awake at 1.30am speaking pure gibberish): ‘do you think frankie would swap his standard oil hat for a f1 hat when races are on?’ and ‘do you think if i was turned into a lamp he’d keep me around or would he recycle me?’

my friend: sometimes I can’t believe you’re the same person who wrote late night texts 😂

#jo’s thoughts #they’ve just woken up and reminded me of this #once it’s after 1am my brain has a mind of its own - in a different way than when I create the fics you read #also this isn’t even the most random things I’ve sent to a friend

[hydn-jpg]

E6 for Aerin please

from this expression meme! (not accepting anymore requests ` ω ´ )

#i made his eyes a bit too big and uneven so he looks a bit strange....;; #playchoices #blades of light and shadow #aerin valleros #anyway totally unrelated but new profile pic! #i got a haircut so it was time to update my pfp #and by got a haircut i mean i cut it myself with kitchen scissors #my wolfcut/mullet era has come to an end #i thought of getting the jay jo cut but i highly doubt i could pull it off lmao #hydn.jpg

[04tenno]

Mine is in the circle of hell where every demon is female and they keep hitting on him

Also as for your own personal thoughts, do you think Daigo could have been into Mine?

I mean... maybe because I'm bi, but sounds preferable to burning in hell for "quintillions of years" as described lol

And I've talked about it a few times (though I guess I've never compiled it all in one place), but personally I think it all makes less sense if Daigo isn't into Mine. Take, for example, Mine's original character story. From start to finish, while Mine's agonizing over initiating a friendship, Daigo's the one who's "making moves."

He's inviting Mine out to a bar (one that's intimate and out-of-the-way, located in the Champion District—where, As I'm Always Saying, the LGBT-friendly establishments we're aware of are clustered—with a bartender he's comfortable confiding in). He's asking if Mine's currently seeing anyone, taking care not to gender a potential partner. He's leaving the area where all the nightlife is to take Mine to the hotel district and tell him he "wants some action."

And he's clearly thrown off when Mine doesn't catch on to what he means. Like, I fully believe Daigo was intending to propose a sexual encounter of some kind—maybe going their separate ways, maybe arranging a threesome or foursome with some ladies, maybe a one-on-one with Mine, who knows—and ditch Mine at the hotel.

Then there is, of course, the reserve bottle. Now, I can't speak from experience, but I'm told it's exceedingly unusual to reserve a bottle (particularly an expensive one) for a "friend." And that's sort of corroborated by the story Kashiwagi tells in Yakuza: Like a Dragon.

Like, it's in how they look at each other on the rooftop. It's in how Daigo is willing to lay down his life for Mine without a second thought and always has been, even before Mine felt the same about Daigo. It's in how, despite the fandom's incessant "yandere" characterization of Mine, Daigo is just as willing to kill to protect him.

They have one of the most special bonds in the series to me. They're best friends, and Mine is undoubtedly Daigo's closest confidant; of course, it helps that Mine takes no shit, much like Kashiwagi, but I think it would've been invaluable for Daigo to have someone like that his own age. And Daigo's got nothing but praise for Mine except his misgivings that the seems too guarded around him, but then again, he's not going to force Mine to open up before he's ready.

In a series that's all about beating your own ideals into the other person, it's wonderful to see two people who genuinely like each other and are able to make themselves clear with words and actions alone. When it comes to the thoughts they allow to come to the surface, at least. I think Daigo has to be into Mine, but I also think Mine's too dense to realize it. Perhaps vice-versa, too.

That all ties back into what I was saying about the reserve bottle. I can't help see it as perfectly symbolic of their mutual attraction. Never acting, waiting for "the right time" until it's too late, but holding it close to their hearts even when the moment has passed. And then all that's left to do is preserve the memory.

But, you know, that's just how I'd like to see it. I can't make any definitive statements (not that I was asked to, but as a wiki editor, I can't suppress the urge). Overall, I'm more inclined to believe it's not purposeful. Like, twooo gay major characters!?!?! That's pushing it...

#long post #asks #my analysis #yakuza 3 #ryu ga gotoku online #yoshitaka mine #mine yoshitaka #daigo dojima #dojima daigo #minedai #anyways mine is alive so i hope they're able to crack open that bottle sometime :) #thought i'd have more to say in the tags but. not really #yea. enjoy the post ig #WAIT #daigo's misgivings about mine being too guarded around him #1000% arakawa's had a conversation along those lines with someone if he has. anyone to confide in other than jo #oh and yeah i don't think it's on purpose #even though it's. a lot. #like it's a lot to do by PURE ACCIDENT #but if anyone can do it it's yokoyama and takeuchi right lmao

[miahasahardname]

the entire slavic community worshipping svetlana and eva… beautiful how we unite over these women

#also jo. i see a lot of people thinking of her as east european (including me! śląska dziołcha fr) #i was gonna add an image but like.. lazy #anyways we need more east european characters!!! #td svetlana #td eva #total drama #td #mia has a stupid thought #ignoreable post

[cukrkandl]

are there any classics (whatever your definition of that is, actually) that have strong aro/ace/queerplatonic relationship vibes?

#aromantic #asexual #queerplatonic #i'm writing a fanfic where different couples are represented by different queer classics #and i wanna make a point about how aro/ace people are just kind of excluded #except that means i wrote myself into a corner bc what book am i supposed to use to illustrate the point that there are none lmao #like i think there has to be something but idk what to look for #don't judge my researching skills please #someone please answer #oooooh i just thought of little women somebody commented on my fic that jo has strong aroace vibes

[saraanzu]

friends supporting friends

redraw of this

#the og version is my most popular post for whatever reason #almost 1k notes... #thought I could capitalize off of that since my art has improved #also deltarune is fun to draw #deltarune #utdr #safeutdr #susie #ralsei #deltarune fanart #susie deltarune #ralsei deltarune #jo's art

[queenhawke]

Thots on the new dr who:

enjoyed it! solid 8/10

it was very RTD-ish, which y'know. makes sense. it's not entirely my thing but he does it with such competency that it works

beep the meep i would die for you despite you being evil

im still not huge on DT coming back but on the other hand, seeing the doctor and donna together again is a delight

loved that they saved the day by being trans. incredible

don't love the new tardis interior. it's very empty and cold :\ wish they'd dress it up a bit, put some bookcases or smth in there like 12 had

what is with the weird breathing in the end credits music

#jo has thoughts #dw spoilers

[newtness532]

my mom asked me if id rather date a guy or a girl and i told her idk (bc im awkward and couldn't answer truthfully but also im bi so technically it wasnt really a lie) and that happened in a coffee place with a big rainbow colored sticker that said happy and proud which my mom mentioned that is sort of known as a gay cafe

#i know it doesn't really count as coming out but it's a start #also i saw this coming bc she was asking all this questions about my future and uni and things and then when i was pretty much avoiding all #of them she was saying that she wants to get to know me and my thoughts etc and that she could ask more gossipy questions #and me thinking im smart turned the conversation and asked questions about my sister bc i havent talked to her in a while and she has #but after she told me all about her instead of forgetting about me like i hoped she remembered and she asked #anyway maybe some day I'll figure out how to open up to people #jo says stuff #personal ramblings

[schrodingers-neurodivergent]

I see a lot of focus on Jupe's role in NOPE, and while I believe that to be completely understandable and deserved considering the impact him and his actions have to the story, I think there's a lot of people overlooking the tragedy of Mary Jo Elliot's character. I mentioned her briefly in a separate post of mine on the meaning of the upturned shoe, but I thought I'd expand a bit more on it to settle the nest of brainworms that have gathered in my head.

MJE, to me, has such a tragedy about her compared to her fellow child star, Jupe. The Gordy's Home incident was undoubtedly traumatic to both actors, and I don't want to try minimise or ignore the immensely painful past of Jupe because I do believe he was victimised heavily, by his exploitative child star career, by the Gordy's Home incident, and also the huge spectacle following Gordy's Home. However, when I think about MJE, I really do believe she plays a small, yet vital part in NOPE.

MJE was a young girl when Gordy attacked her following the unexpected pop of a balloon on the set. We witness a very concealed verson of the incident, as it is shown through the perspective of young Jupe underneath the table, but the sounds of the incident don't leave much uncertain as to the viciousness of the attack. We hear flesh ripping, yells, all the while her body is half concealed by the furniture of the set.

I think it's interesting how we're shown MJE. We are shown her child star face through sitcom clips prior to the incident and the t-shirt she wears at the Jupiter's Claim. I think the fact her child self is not ever truly separated from pain and trauma tells us a lot about how her and Jupe have responded to the events of that day. Both of them have been turned into a spectacle and rely on their past to get by.

The only time we see MJE's face, is the glimpse we get when she looks up at Jean Jacket. We see her face bearing the marks of her past, as she stares up at what would be her end.

It feels utterly heartbreaking to me that she had went through so much, only for her to end up digested slowly in Jean Jacket's flesh cylinder overnight, in the sticky and claustrophobic space surrounded by everyone else who went to Jupiter's Claim.

And it makes me think about just how much Jupe was reliant on spectacle. He knew MJE was coming out as he had introduced her, perhaps he had even invited her to it. I don't think it's too far of a stretch to say they likely became quite close after the Gordy's Home incident, and developed a trust of sorts.

Jupe, being aware of this colossal creature that feasts on things, and using it to bring in profit while endangering the life of Mary Jo Elliot, and so many others, shows us just how far he was willing to go for the show. for the spectacle. for the drama of it all.

I think MJE plays a vital role in showing the full extent that some people will go to just for the spectacle. While the motorbike influencer and Antlers do also help in demonstrating this aspect, the significance of MJE, wearing her child face, being swallowed by Jean Jacket almost feels like, to me, that Jupe has fed her past to it aswell.

He never let things be, he never sought out a different approach to success or appreciation, he has always relied on the hurt and pain of himself and those around him to get by. Whether it be his memorabilia room, OJ jr's horses, or anything else, they all, ultimately, end up being used for spectacle. And Mary Jo Elliot is all of this personified.

#nope movie spoilers #nope 2022 #nope #nope jordan peele #Jupe #Mary Jo Elliot #this is rambling #I have a lot of thoughts but no idea if they make coherent sense #I spent so long procrastinating actually writing up my thoughts somewhere #and honestly it has been a while since ive seen it so I may have missed small details #but just the whole thing about MJE HURTS me

[addicted2coke-theothercoke]

Semi related to what I just talked about

But I remember once, when I was a kid, maybe thirteen or so, I had a dream about doxing before I even knew what doxing was

Like, no wonder it scares me, I've been scared of it before I knew what it was even called

And then I later befriended someone who doxed people lol

#random thoughts #my thoughts #once i dreamt #i had a dream #my friends #For anyone worried #They don't do it anymore #They do some other stuff I don't agree with now and then #But they haven't found out where someone lived and who their family was and yada yada in ages #Not sense their aunt was being blackmailed #And it made them sick to do that #Point is #I don't want anyone saying stuff about my friend #They are an amazing person #Who has needed help in the past #And they've made tremendous progress on so many things #I will sooner block someone then hear them out if they say anything rude about a Jo

[undercoverpena]

I—

I have no idea what has gotten into me. but please all lower your expectations about the smut around here. the smutty few weeks we’ve had is like the sunshine in the UK—a rarity, not a usual occurrence.

#jo’s thoughts #like I have zero idea why I’ve written so much smut #I mean the brain rot has been real #especially cause low mood and horniness don’t seem to go hand in hand… and yet here we are

[hazzybat]

Poly!JO ficlet (legit it's tiny)

I'm not gonna make a full story out of this but I loved the very short intro I wrote so I'm gonna post it here cause I think you guys will like it

Bojan kneed Kris very hard in the balls in his mad dash to get to the bathroom before he threw up .

He ignored the gasping sound behind him and Jure's confused groan as he made it just in time to empty his stomach. He thought he could hear Nace ask "Kris are you good?" in a very sexy and very sleep filled voice.

Bojan might have drunk a bit too much if his pounding head and inability to move from the toilet seat was anything to go by.

He must have had a good night though if there was at least 3 other people in his bed. He heard pained wheeze followed by a shout of "AGAIN?"

Jan was suddenly next to him, half shoving him off as he too hurled into the toilet.

Bojan chuckled before messily stroking Jan's hair and tucking it behind his ear.

"What a romantic start to the morning" Bojan half whispered as he stared at Jan across the toilet bowl. Jan rolled his eyes.

"Next birthday we celebrate we are not fucking drinking" he groaned out.

#poly!JO #bo(jan)2 #i dunno i just thought uo the first line and it made me laugh so i wrote this #feel free to expand upon it #joker out #ficlet #i don't think it can even be called that #more like a single opening scene #if anyone has an idea where this goes tell me so i can make it a full thing #bokris