#israeli apologism

[agentfascinateur]

The Rafah coverup preparations:

Getting rid of the witnesses..."democratic" "allies", undemocratic accomplices.

#palestine #palestinians #rafah #gaza #genocide #mass graves #mass murder #cover up #israeli apartheid #israeli atrocities #israeli occupation #idf terrorists #iof terrorism #war crimes #icj #us complicity #us weapons #free palestine #free gaza #justice #gaza solidarity encampment #support for palestine #right wing extremism #humanitarian crisis #famine #human rights #censorship #propaganda #israeli apologism #code pink

[fiapple]

this is a fucking reprehensible thing to do when a genocide is being committed, posting for people’s blocklists. i won’t be entertaining any bullshit in the notes of this post either.

#palestine #israeli apologism #i would trigger tag this but like it’s legit so fucked i don’t even know what to put #this is grossly fucking heartless

[nesyanast]

Thinking about how in 1983 Ofra Haza, a Yemenite-Jew refugee, sang the song Chai at Eurovision in Munich, Germany 11 years after the Munich Massacre and only four decades after the Holocaust, with a song where the chorus says Am Yisrael Chai - The Nation of Israel Lives and it's all about joyous survival. (She placed second)

#jumblr #jewish #jews #nesyapost #jewish culture #jewish history #Jewish music #Israeli music #yemenite jew #ofra haza #am yisrael chai #i apologize this one is grainy but i wanted eng sub so you can see the beautiful lyrics

[remindertoclick]

Here's your daily reminder to Click for Palestine! 🇵🇸

#zionistterror #anti zionism #arab.org #free gaza #end israeli occupation #help palestine #no id #(apologies) #help gaza #pro palestine #support palestine #donations #don't stop talking about palestine #nakba #israeli occupation #send hep

[thedreadvampy]

legitimately insane how to some people, "we should wipe out this ethnic group that we've violently constrained to a ghetto because they're just genetically more violent and dangerous" is a reasonable and justifiable statement but it's Nazi Rhetoric to say something like, "it's bad that Israeli civilians are being killed but acknowledging that as tragic includes acknowledging that the almost daily state-sanctioned murder of civilians by the Israeli government is also tragic and unacceptable"

btw guys speaking of Nazi shit - can we check in, alongside what's been done to Palestinians in the last 75 years, what's the Israeli government's take on the Azerbaijani government's newest round of ethnic cleansing of Armenians? oh are the Israeli government's actions maybe not determined by Jewish identity, but by a commitment to colonial supremacy which puts them on the same page as other violently genocidal states like Azerbaijan, the US, and the UK? god can you Even Imagine?

(framing speaking against Israeli war crimes as inherently antisemitic requires understanding the Israeli state as representing all Jewish people, when it doesn't even represent all Israelis.

framing Israeli war crimes as synonymous with Jewish identity is pretty fucked up if we're being honest. I don't think that controlling water and power and movement for a captive population and shooting children dead for throwing stones is an inherent value of Judaism, any more than I think the torture carried out at Guantanamo Bay is an inherent value of Christianity - in both cases they're atrocities carried out by a far right genocidal government using religious identity as a shield.

Calling statements like "Israel is committing genocide against the people it's displaced" inherently antisemitic is doing more to further the idea that all Jewish people are associated with Israel than saying "the Israeli government is doing war crimes," which is a statement of fact about a country that exists and does war crimes. Is criticism of Israel as a nation often used as cover for antisemitism? Absolutely. Does that mean the Israeli government isn't doing literal war crimes repeatedly, on record, while talking publicly about scrubbing an ethnic group off the map? Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh well in the last 48 hours they've definitely cut off water and power to almost 600,000 civilians and allegedly used white phosphorus against civilians so in an extremely factual and unambiguous way yeah man those are Literal War Crimes whoever does them.)

#red said #sorry man saying 'it's bad to do genocide and war crimes' doesn't actually mean 'I'm happy when Jewish people die' #it means 'there is a context to Palestinian militants attacking Israelis which involves Palestinians being killed wounded or imprisoned #very nearly every day by the Israeli state and settlers. so no you can't treat a Palestinian attack on Israel as an unprecedented tragedy #without also recognising that Israeli forces have repeatedly visited attacks of similar magnitude on Palestine which is ALSO tragic #as well as the regular state-sanctioned murder of over 200 Palestinians in the 9 months BEFORE the Palestinian attack on Saturday #It means 'Palestinian lives don't matter less than Israeli lives' not 'Israeli lives don't matter' #this week is literally the FIRST TIME SINCE RECORDS BEGAN that more Israeli lives have been lost than Palestinian #bc for every year since 2000 orders of magnitude more palestinians than Israelis have been killed in this war #you don't get to say 'it's only bad when X ethnic group is killed it's GOOD to kill Y ethnic group' then accuse OTHERS of genocide apologis #it is legitimately a tragedy for Israeli civilians to be killed and wounded en masse. the people are not the nation. #but it's not less of a tragedy for Palestinians to have been killed and wounded en masse week after week for decades. #and when peaceful protest gets you shot and bombed and acting against the military gets you shot and bombed #and just existing doing nothing at all gets you shot and bombed. living near someone accused of terrorism. looking for your fucking cat. #when you're getting shot and bombed daily whatever you do. it's not surprising that sometimes people move to violence against civilians. #because as people from Gaza have said. better to die fighting for survival than die on your knees waiting. #which like. I'm not making a moral judgement one way or the other bc i am intrinsically disgusted by mass killing. as we all should be. #and this might be the movement which liberates Palestine and it might be the excuse which allows Israel to finish Palestine #and either way hundreds of people are dead on both sides and however you slice it that's a fucking tragedy #but we cannot. treat it as if Hamas' strike began the violence. and ignore the 200+ Palestinians killed by the IDF this year beforehand #Palestinian lives matter as much as Israeli lives. 700 Israeli citizens dead is a tragedy. 600 Palestinians dead is a tragedy. #and if you lay out the numbers from this weekend alone you can pretend that Israelis are getting decimated by Palestine. #but to do that you have to ignore the facts that for every 1 Israeli killed in the past decade 3 Palestinians die. #and that Israeli deaths happen in occasional outbursts of violence while Palestinian deaths happen every week #whether or not Hamas or any other Palestinian faction initiates violence

[byler-alarmist]

If your support of Palestine includes apologizing for SA on the part of Hamas, you'd better block me before I come for your ass

#there is no justification for SA. ever. #you can't rape someone in self defense #raping someone won't liberate one's homeland #and don't fucking whataboutism me about IDF #i am saying that it's never justified no matter with which group the perpetrator is affiliated #i am seeing some very rancid takes and rape apologism in the tag that's making me sick #and before you try to come for me #i am for ending apartheid #i lament the civilian casualties no matter whose they are #and to ppl saying the recent hamas atrocities upon israeli civilians are 'fake': fuuuucckkk you #i'm going to keep my commebts here to a minimum #because the conflict is complex and my thoughts on it can't adequately be condensed into tags #i juat don't want to aee callous treatment of SA for any reason #tw sa mention #tw sa

[lesbeet]

i have a question about the list about zionism and antisemitism, the one that's dont "tell Jewish Israelis to "go back where they came from". i understand that there are jewish settlers that will have difficulty moving somewhere else, but doesn't this still perpetuate that colonizers have more of a right to the land than the people who they killed to take it? like the assumption is if we don't tell colonizers they should leave, then they have can stay and continue to occupy the land and resources that were stolen from palestinians

i feel like a palestinian person (or someone else who has been victim to colonization) can answer this better than i can, but i personally have never seen actual palestinians calling for all jewish israelis to remove themselves from the land completely. i don't think the only options are "jewish israelis stay and continue to oppress palestine" or "all jewish israelis vanish from the land without a trace" and imo suggesting so only perpetuates the idea that all palestinians/muslims hate all israelis/jews and have no interest or willingness to cohabitate in a scenario where all people are treated as equals (i'm not the person to ask regarding HOW to make this happen tho)

also like......i know this isn't the problem or responsibility of palestinians who lost their land to colonizers, but where should the jewish israelis go "back to"? setting aside the argument of jewish indigeneity altogether, as that post mentioned, many jews who initially relocated to israel (like post-shoah, not present-day) did so because they were being persecuted in the countries they were coming from. many of those countries are still not particularly safe for jews, and would DEFINITELY not become so in the event of a mass migration. i feel like you're picturing a country full of european and american olim who made aliyah in the last several decades bc of israeli propaganda/intentional annexing of land, but that's not the majority by any means.

again, that's not to say "oh well, they're already there so it would be pretty shitty to make em leave, palestine will just have to deal" but like. it's not realistic and it's also not what anyone is asking for. palestinians just want equal rights and to have stewardship over their ancestral homeland. and yknow, not to be physically and emotionally and socially eviscerated for the crime of existing in a politically frought (and politically advantageous) region. probably some reparations, and rightfully so. nobody is going to forcibly expel the israelis - if anything, some will leave on their own bc they're too racist to give up their privilege and continue to live there as equals, and the rest will be people living in a multiethnic, multifaith country

#my edible kicked in as i wrote this and i had a shit day so i apologize if this doesn't make sense #answered #anonymous #like even with a 2-state solution israel would be a multiethnic country bc israelis are not all white

[snekdood]

if ppl telling you "jewish ppl in israel were already kicked out of other countries and have no where else to go" makes you feel compelled to call whoever said that a "zionist", I really just dont think you give af about jewish ppl's lives quite frankly.

if your "free palestine" means "getting rid" of all jewish civilians in israel I think you're probably just a heartless asshole.

#two state solution ftw #or at least something along those lines #yelling at average jewish ppl who ARENT in israel is antisemitic #anti semitism- no matter how 'big of a deal' you think it is naturally makes jewish ppl feel unsafe by default #where do they go when theres nowhere else thats safe? you guessed it- probably to israel. #which is WHAT netanyahu wants. he wants scared controllable civilians to think hes the only one who can protect them #so you being anti semitic and not checking yourself on it or being 'whatever its nbd' about it is making everything so much worse #STOP BEING SO FUCKING APATHETIC FUCK ILL BEAT YOU UP TO MAKE YOU FEEL SOMETHING IF I HAVE TO #i dont feel like i can in good conscious reblog your 'free palestine' posts bc idk wtf the op thinks about jewish ppl being in #israel. and at this point i dont have faith in leftists to not notice the antisemitism in some of these ppl and call it out #its not something we can 'push aside and deal with and apologize for later' its ACTIVELY MAKING THE SITUATION WORSE AND NEEDS #TO BE ADDRESSED RIGHT THE FUCK NOW #maybe jewish ppl wouldnt be calling it 'self defense' if yall didnt keep being antisemitic and making them feel like they have to cling #to israel to stay tf alive. fuck. #OBVIOUSLY the response to what hamas did is disproportionate and affecting more people than israel says it intends to target #but thats the govt. and actual regular people are worried about their families. its disproportionate and probably being used as an excuse #to genocide palestinians but this wouldnt be happening if hamas didnt basically GIVE the israeli govt the excuse to do it. #free palestine. from hamas and from the israeli govt. and dont have genocidal intent toward jewish ppl. #thats all i want. #hamas' escalation did nothing but hurt everyone and make things worse especially for palestinians.

[aengelren]

I need you all to talk about this. I need you all to use every platform you have. Supporting palestine doesn’t mean you’re anti jew in any way, shape or form. They bombed a christian hospital and killed 700 kids, a mosque for people seeking shelter. 50% of the population in gaza are under 18 years old. Let that sink in. They are murdering CHILDREN. This is genocide. This is a disgrace towards humanity. I want you to use your voice.

#do not ignore this. i want you to WATCH. does it make you uncomfortable? imagine how he feels #imagine how all of the children and mothers feel #i just saw a little girls dead body. i want to scream at everyone staying silent #do you have nephews? children? siblings? cousins? even thinking about it being my family makes me want to shrink and hide in the safety of #my home #they are being silenced so SPEAK FOR THEM. #before anyone even says it #the statement of 40 israeli babies beheaded has been re #has been retracted by the white house and the journalist who spread the news. #‘soldiers told me they belive 40 babies were killed’ and later apologized for spreadung thus lie #i know both sides are suffering #they are all victims of the governments but let’s not forget who funded hamas. #israel. #terrorists all of them. #i am beyond words. #palestina #free palestina

[locrianking]

am yisrael fucking chai.

#at this point im just gonna be real: if you see what happened yesterday as anything but a tragedy #you are fucking larping as a ‘freedom fighter’ from the safety of your home without using the brain god gave you #hamas took control of palestine via COUP they have not had a democratic election since then. #hamas is liberating jack shit. they are ALSO OPPRESSING PALESTINIANS. palastinian civillians are fucking meat shields to them use your head #the bodies of israeli women are being paraded around naked with their goddamn heads blown off right now #israeli and palestinian civilians are being killed by hamas right now. if you see this as liberation and not a tragedy or injustice #i do not know what to tell you other than to stop using civillian deaths to justify your political beliefs #and i say this as an anarchist #it’s easy to call this liberation on tumblr.com when your home isnt being used to store weapons or as a launching pad for rockets #or when your neighbors arent currently hostages or your daughters dead naked body isnt being paraded in the streets #i will not apologize for being more concerned about palestine’s civilians than the safety of the hamas. #i will not apologize for being worried when there is a grand total of ONE jewish state on earth and people are chanting to kill all israelis #i care about jews. i care about palestinians. i care about the civilians who are living in fear. #if you think that is controversial feel free to block me ✌️ #rosie speaks

[agentfascinateur]

Slandered as a terrorist, this Palestinian journalist was a poet and a feminist

Palestinian women journalists have always been at the forefront of Israel’s violent occupation and the wars it has waged on Palestinians. Their bravery and dedication have helped shine light on the suffering and atrocities the Palestinian people have been through and continue to face.

The deadly forked tongue habit of Israelis on display and often the flimsy excuse for conflict. Enough.

#palestine #palestinians #gaza #genocide #rafah #israeli atrocities #palestinian journalists #israeli apartheid #israeli occupation #war crimes #idf terrorists #iof terrorism #free palestine #free gaza #justice #icj ruling #icc warrant #journalist #shireen abu akleh #cover up #media blackout #censorship #humanitarian crisis #reporters #civilian deaths #israeli apologism #us complicity #amna homaid #feminist #poetry

[iamyounicorn]

Love to live in a country with a president who still has a hint of humanity. Love to see the international backlash against him pretty much saying "I don't think soldiers killing women and children is something I'd call a war". Actually I think if a country with a history of diplomatic neutrality says a situation is fucked up that means more (and more powerful) countries should've been saying this already

#youni originals #... how do i tag this #i don't want to tag this with actual relevant tags since this is like. just a vaguepost. #but if you haven't heard: lula said the 'war' in gaza is only comparable to the holocaust #the israeli foreign affairs minister publicly 'reprimanded' (more like publicly humiliated) the brazilian ambassador over that #and said in the prime minister's name that lula is not welcome in israel until he apologizes #which is. extremely childish first of all. what are we‚ kids at the playground?? #and second of all ridiculously overdramatic #brasil is Not that politically powerful. we are like. the tallest kid in the kid's table. #the grownups may let us sit at their table from time to time but they don't actually respect us #israel has had a baby chair on the grownup table since it was born. and now it's crying because some random kid called it stinky

[maddy-ferguson]

i saw someone say they were hoping noah would apologize and it's just kinda fascinating to me...if he thought zionism was sexy on monday (or i guess on sunday probably and for many days and weeks before that) why would he suddenly think it's an awful ideology on friday?

#and like i say: brf slt #i think people found out what zionism was like three weeks ago and think it's a slur or something when like #no it's an actual ideology it doesn't just mean killing and displacing an entire people that's only what ends up happening when you...put #the plan into motion. but yk #i would say zionism can mean one of three things: supporting the establishment of a jewish state. supporting the state of israel #specifically. supporting whatever awful thing the israeli government/army is up to that day #i saw someone get yelled at in the replies of a post because they were saying this when they were literally right? it was a post about noah #so again i'm assuming people don't know what they're talking about because. they don't. lol #and like obviously proudly being a zionist rn and being like zionism is sexy while israel is bombing people in the name of zionism after #killing and displacing people for decades in the name of zionism can only mean that you condone all that. but idk. i didn't like the way #people talked to that person WHO WAS LITERALLY RIGHT when they were probably the same people who were saying no going to israel and saying #you love it there doesn't mean anything at all this summer #and about the apology. lmao. i've seen people say the same thing about timothée chalamet on twitter and like yeah if he thought the hamas #joke was funny on saturday why would he be like omg nooooo this is really unfunny on monday. i'm not saying you can't expect anyone to #apologize for anything ever but celebrity apologies...................lmao. even when they do apologize it's always like i'm sorry #you're offended not i'm sorry for doing it #and explain to me how or why you would expect noah to be like sorry i didn't mean that zionism was a good thing. like what about his track #record would make you think he'd change his mind😭 if he ever realizes how wrong he is it definitely will not be now #and people saying that video should get him fired is like. brett gelman posted something about how if you don't get called a racist on the #internet once a day you're doing something wrong and you think they're gonna fire noah for being around stickers that say 'this ideology we #the creator+producer of the show subscribe to is sexy' and 'this organization we have decided has beheaded 40 babies and we're so #sure of that we repeated the lie in our open letter thanking the president who corroborated that lie is isis'. like they agree with him #i'm not defending anything btw i'm just saying why the fuck would you expect him to be like oh my bad you're right and apologize😭

[suswous]

I’m still kinda of the opinion that non-Jews should just stop using the term ‘Zionism’

#like #‘Zionist’ can mean a full on Netanyahu/Likud supporter who believes Palestinians have no right to live where they live #it can be a dog whistle for ‘Jew’ in general #and also a decent amount of ppl who identify as ‘Zionist’ are pro-Palestinian self-determination #but one that coexists w/ Jewish self determination in the levant #but ppl will see that and think #‘oh so this person supports every single action the Israeli government has ever done’ #I’m not Jewish so I can’t rlly speak to the nuances #but I know that they are there #I’m a bit buzzed and also sleep deprived so apologies if this makes no sense #but I think it does #(make sense that is)

[mexashepot]

If I'm god and I have a sense of humour, I'm halting the civil war and re-scheduling it to this Thursday instead.

You know, staying true to history and all that

(And if I'm god AND I am super funny, then I'm ending it next Wednesday, to double the joke)

#apologies to my followers who are not well-versed in Jewish history #(joker meme: you would not get it) #I'm so sorry joking through the tears is the only way I can handle this #Israeli tag #Jewish tag #current events

[twise]

I’m kinda wondering how you’re dealing with the frustration from the situation, as well, a fellow American. Its frustrating trying to explain to my 60 year old parents that you can’t call it a war when the causalities are 1,600:26,000 and have to just be told “war is always ugly, countries have rights to defend themselves” BS or well seeing our lovely nation spew more shit on the matter and American news channels interviewing IDF soldiers. Biggest pig alive bill Maher meeting with other white men to talk about how “young people don’t know what they’re talking about”

I feel frustrated towards my nation and the efforts being put in because the disillusionment doesn’t come from like wanting to give up or anything like that, but doing everything in your power to want to help people who are suffering only to takes 4 steps backwards bc of some ailing white man. I feel so embarrassed towards Palestine because my nation is putting blood on their soil, it’s like screaming at the top of your lungs but they only fill with water. Gah sorry to rant I’m just home right now and thus have no one to talk to about it without starting an argument

first of all, im not america, im actually from north africa, living in europe! my entire family is aggresively pro-palestine, so thankfully no problems there.

it's incredibly frustrating to see other people be so ignorant and stupid! the media is trying very hard to push a narrative, but it isn't an excuse for anyone to not see that it is simply a genocide and nothing else. all the signs are there and more importantly, all the evidence of a genocide are there. i understand your emotions completely! the western media outlets are so so so biased and often just blatantly wrong in the articles they write that it makes me angry everytime i read them. living in the west means you practically have no voice. it's always freedom this democracy that but the fact that no country is doing ANYTHING despite all the demonstrations and vocal support for palestine is very telling on every government. but we should never lose hope, the difference between the attitude towards the genocide before and after this war is huge, there is progress that is being made. and we should also try our best to changte the mindset of the people around us. that is in my opinion so important! "it's like screaming at the top of your lungs but they only fill with water" is very well said. i can only imagine how it must be to actually have to live with people that don't want to see. i really wish you the best of luck!!

#dont apologize!! #having to see the horrors and then meeting with people who are like “meh..” ...... #it's how it usually was before this war when something in palestine happened #thankfully people are now far more pro palestine then before #the israeli casualties stand on 1.139 btw! #i hope i worded this ok #anon #asks