#ismene

[theodysseyofhomer]

#poll #speaking of polls. i am curious to see what opinions this might turn up #oedipous #antigone #ismene #creon and jocasta should probably be options but i'm asking this for my own benefit rather than actually grouping together protagonists

[iphisesque]

i love how absolutely none of these tragedies give a fuck about ismene. she truly is just a figment of antigone's imagination. she is born the moment antigone makes her choice as a desperate last-ditch attempt from the narrative to try to save antigone while at the same time cementing her death resolution for good. her purely situational and instrumental value are shrouded in failure from the very moment she steps on the scene and it compels me

#antigone #ismene #tagamemnon

[jondrettegirls]

The Brothers Karamazov - Fyodor Dostoyevsky | Antigone - Jean Anhouilh (Tr. Lewis Galantière) | Crime and Punishment - Fyodor Dostoyevsky

#id in alt text #on my own. #do you know what you are dying for. #to break what has to be broken. #ismene #antigone #raskolnikov #now that ive read c&p i reallyyy wanna read brothers karamazov but. i need to take a break from classics #or else my brain will blow up #also i dont need to read rn anyway i need to write . el oh el #quotes #classics #classic lit #crime and punishment #fyodor dostoevsky #the brothers karamazov #rodion romanovich raskolnikov #rodya raskolnikov #quoteblr

[transbutchbluess]

obsessively thinking about antigone tonight. queer antigone / antigone as a product of incest displaying incestuous undertones&themes herself / married through death antigone (anouilh’s antigone, who wanted to have her first time with hemon the evening before she goes to bury her brother, who wanted to die not-a-virgin and yet not-a-wife but who didn’t, because they fought instead) / antigone who only knows how to live for oedipus / antigone who only knows how to die for her brothers / antigone who is nothing but her love for her family / antigone who leaves ismene behind / antigone who knows her brothers have been cursed by her father but still goes back to thebes, because she has to / antigone who knows creon will remove the dirt she puts on polyneikes’ body, but still puts it there, because she has to / antigone ready to die, born to die / antigone already dead from the beginning, her fate sealed long ago / antigone leaving thebes as a child knowing she will only come back to die.

#antigone #it’s probably my favorite tragedy #which says a lot because i love many ancient tragedies #but antigone ? #i love her so much #i have so many versions of her story now #plays : sophocles (3 translations including one by anne carson) / anouilh / cocteau #novels : henry bauchau’s oedipus on the road + antigone #and it breaks me every single time #classics #oedipus #jocasta #ismene #eteokles #polyneikes #polynices

[siblingshowdown]

Sibling Showdown Round 1 Bracket D1

Image credit: The Oath of Fëanor by Jenny Dolfen (goldseven.de) used with permission, also showing Fëanor

Antigone by Marie Spartali Stillman (1844-1927), Eteocles not pictured

#sibling showdown #tumblr bracket #silmarillion #greek mythology #theban plays #maedhros #antigone #maglor #polynices #celegorm #eteocles #caranthir #ismene #curufin #amrod #amras #children of oedipus #sons of feanor #greek myth

[riveracheron]

notes on family and inheritance

#the magnus protocol #gwendolyn bouchard #og elias bouchard #tmagp #ismene

[jijingka]

character/costume designs i did of my favorite antigone characters for a class :)

#antigone #sophocles #ismene #teresias #character design #costume design #my art

[destinywillowleaf]

i'm committing to the bit y'all

no time frame on when exactly this is gonna be done but there are Plans which is better than some projects i've worked on

@most-tragic-character-tournament winning the ship has kept me going forward with this absolute nonsense and i wouldn't have it any other way (and to those brave anons who suggested the idea to begin with)

#ninjago #lloyd garmadon #tagammemnon #antigone #tragedyshipping #haemon #creon #ismene #kai ninjago #jay walker #cole ninjago #zane julien #nya ninjago #tragedy: null and void #please don't look too closely at clothing and the folds i am doing my best #the plan is trailer first #then the fic probably because i have an outline for it #and then if this crackship still has a hold on my brain i'll try to get around to ''i won't say i'm in love'' #i still need to get more consistent with antigone's hair... #''why is lloyd the only one in the hero armor'' because i didn't want to draw the others in it #my friend is the one who said lloyd should have golden scales which yeah. he was right for that one

[xylo-art]

Liquid sin oozes down the walls - a piece for “Heart of the Sea”

(Please reblog to spread this further if you’d like to see more! 💞)

Timelapse under the cut | Warning for flashing! —❥

#ismene #my ocs #artists on tumblr #painting #procreate #personal project #digital illustration #timelapse #Lost Pantheon

[la-pheacienne]

Rhaenyra is objectively a victim, but to people in the fandom, sob story olympic is about self projection, it’s about MY victimhood. They don’t think Rhaenyra is a victim because she’s not a character you can use as a vehicle to talk about your own problems. You can make posts about Alicent and moan about low confidence, anxiety, feeling useless, resenting other people's success or people trying to take control of their lives, projecting your inferiority/victim/martyr complex, etc. At the core of it, it’s narcissism, it’s thinly veiled self glorification and baits for validation. But you can’t really talk about Rhaenyra’s sob story and make it about yourself. Most of them don’t have very exciting lives or ambitions. Rhaenyra is sexually autonomous, has three bastards, and had her throne stolen because she was a woman. Not relatable.

"At the core of it, it’s narcissism, it’s thinly veiled self glorification and baits for validation".

"Rhaenyra is sexually autonomous, has three bastards, and had her throne stolen because she was a woman. Not relatable".

Yep, you said it all. Not relatable. Relatability is the number one quality a fictional hero should have in the current context of american media. Traditionally, or at least in my culture, what you go for -mainly- is exceptionalism. In order for me to care about a character they need to give me something exceptional, something particular, something that nobody else has. I am not looking to see myself on screen. I don't give a fuck about that. Give me something different. But be careful, exceptionalism doesn't mean lack of realism, not at all, I am all about realism, I just don't like characters just because they have weaknesses I can relate to. I need more.

Irrelevant but also kind of relevant : when I was little I read Little women. I loved it. So if you are not familiar with the story, it's a poor family with a lot of sisters, end of 19th century. Jo is one of the sisters, an Arya type of person we could say : she hates the discrimination against women, she wants to live like a man, doesn't want to get married, she wants to become a successful writer. Then you have her sister Amy, perfect little lady, accepts her position as a female, doesn't want to challenge anything, wants to get married to a rich husband, can be vain and self-centered, kind of manipulative etc. The heroine of this story is Jo. We are supposed to root for Jo. Amy serves mainly as a foil to Jo, even if in the end the two manage to get along. Yeahhh except that in the latest movie adaptation, guess which one of the characters people obsess with. Did you guess it? That's right. And why is that? Well because the actress that plays Amy is an absolute cutie with a sexy sultry voice, dresses perfectly and excells at what society expects of women. She conforms, she doesn't challenge, but she succeeds. So, relatable but also idealistic, the perfect combination. But Jo, who gives a fuck about a girl who was scorned all of her life for wanting something different for herself, for not accepting her context, for thinking out of the box. People don't want to see that. They don't want to be that. What they want is to play by the rules and succeed.

Same fucking shit with the tragedy of Antigone. Antigone is the heroine, she challenges the status quo, she sticks to her own moral code, she doesn't give a fuck about what the men around her want, she does her own thing and she is punished. Her sister, Ismene, serves as foil : she is coward, she is a conformist, she bows her head. In the end she regrets not helping Antigone because she loves her sister and she wants to share her punishment. Antigone denies her in disdain, she does not consider her worthy. Because she isn't. Ismene loves Antigone, yes, but she does not share the same exceptional traits that Antigone has and for which she is punished. So she does not deserve to have a place beside her. She is inferior. Ismene is actually more popular in Tumblrina culture than Antigone because people relate to her weakness.

People don't relate to these exceptional heroines because they are not looking for exceptional characters. They are looking for a more successful or a more glamourous version of themselves.

#hotd #house of the dragon #anonymous #antigone #little women #Rhaenyra Targaryen #alicent Hightower #ismene #amy march #Jo march #relatable characters

[aestheticmoody]

Theban Cycle : Ismene

#theban cycle #ismene

[blverob1n]

a comic of part of the first scene in antigonick by sophokles, trans. anne carson

#best tragedy btw #antigone #ismene #antigonick #anne carson #comic #my art

[iphisesque]

Sophocles, Oedipus at Colonus (Johnston) / Sophocles, Antigone (Johnston)

#antigone #oedipus at colonus #sophocles #tagamemnon #ismene #polynices

[outeremissary]

Tell me how Ismene is problematic 👀

Little Miss "TN because I have no principles and refuse to develop any"? Yeah I can do that. I hope I've done this right

privileged princess used to getting what she wants

manipulative

terrible communication skills and blames other people for it

super elitist intellectual who will constantly belittle people she considers less educated than her

any form of discourse it is possible for a wizard to be involved in she has a strong and obnoxious opinion about

has Zhentarim friends

nonconsensual scrying is unproblematic

enjoys publicly humiliating others

thinks she knows better than everyone else in the world

will insult you and then gaslight you about it

repeatedly

she doesn't even get anything out of this she's just mean

necromancy is unproblematic

high key terrible to be friends with

would kill for a beautiful woman. has killed for a beautiful woman. happy lesbian visibility week

mind control is unproblematic

Bhaalspawn

20 year old elf who would like to get laid. I've done elf age discourse before I know where this lands you

with great power comes great ability to Not Help avert horrible world atrocities and claim this was for the greater good

with great power also comes great ability to facilitate atrocities for goals that are Definitely not the greater good

everything surrounding her death

which she might have faked.

what a lifetime legacy of delights.

[prompt]

#due to not having finished the original bhaalspawn saga on either of her playthroughs as of right now she's always still cooking #consider this a prelimary list. I'm really hoping that the future will open up new possibilities for bad behavior. #I'm tentatively hoping for that hexxat romance so I'm sure that will do Something. slayer form too. please. please. #I wrote almost all of this and then checked out because someone sent me a wikipedia link. I am so sorry. #ask game #ismene #arendaes #thanks for thinking about my shitty wizard #writing this made me realize a strong Balthazar Behavior overlap #the key difference is that it's really not materially self serving for ismene this is some unfathomable wizard narcissism

[tokidokifish]

drew ismene :3

i wanted them to be unnervingly long

#with an unnervingly long dIC- #bg3 #baldur's gate iii #bg3 tav #bg3 durge #bg3 elf #art art art #ismene #fun fact but even tho their scales are purple they've got poison breath/resistance #i felt it most fitting for a drow #bg3 drow

[dishsaop]

god ismene though like was ismene younger or older than antigone. did she look up to antigone her whole life the way a little sister does, her firebrand brave sister, devout and devoted, so much closer to her than her kingly brothers, yet so untouchable still. did ismene copy her older sister the way kids do, stealing habits and turns of phrase and fashion styles, only slightly off and just a little annoying because shes just a little kid, isnt she. did ismene borrow her big sisters clothes and jewelry. did ismene help her big sister dress for antigones burial.

was ismene older? did she practically raise antigone herself, the way older sisters are sometimes saddled with. their family is one of the most historically ruinous and tragic families of all time, isnt it, and with all the agony and prophecy and drama and sin, someone had to look after the youngest. did ismene comb the tangles out of antigones hair throughout her childhood, wiping away the tears of rage so furious only little children can have, did ismene tug sandals on antigones little feet and lay out her clothes for her? did ismene dress her sister one last time on the day of her death, so full of rage but no tears anymore - only just devotion, only a little sister who has become a symbol for righteous love, but still a little sister.

either way. either way, ismenes every act in the play is to try to save her sister. begging antigone not to go, not to risk it - their brothers are dead but antigone is still alive, and ismene begs her sister to stay alive. go then as one beloved. go then without your mind. and then the worst; antigone is seen, and known, and caught, and kreon demands her death, and it was never ismenes love of city law that kept her from burying her brother - and it is not a need for glory or praise or righteousness that sends her to claim the deed next to antigone. who is there to be glorious for? jocasta and oedipus? how? the chorus is a mess of inane old men. the city is an abstract, and the gods may as well be too. haemon only matters to his father, and kreon is blind. no, ismene just doesnt want to leave her sister. let me share in this your death sister ismene pleads and antigone has already brushed her off, ismene is only there for antigone but antigone is so much bigger now. too big for ismene to save.

because thats the kicker, isnt it, because antigone is already dead. maybe antigone died when her brothers did. maybe it was just when she saw him unburied. but whether younger or older, ismene grew up with her sister, they are closer than they ought to be, bound by blasphemous parenthood, but what could that have done but given them cause to stand together and yet for all that ismene hasnt seen yet that antigone is dead already. antigone had shouted it, but ismene refused to admit it and now her sister is walking to her tomb and ismene is never mentioned again. she doesnt walk on stage. her name is gone. unwept, unloved, antigone cries going to her tomb, and where is ismene to weep and to love? when antigone dies, ismene might as well have died too. antigone dead when their brothers died and ismene died when her sister dies. what a fucking family. too close in every way. god. god. them. sisters.

#NO i dont have sister issues what do u mean #ismene #antigone #the oedipus trilogy #im sane and normal about the two of them #m text #tagamemnon #classics #greek tragedy