#in neil gaiman i trust

[smoxensweetpea]

I finally re-watched the end of Good Omens season 2 episode 6. In the intervening week+ since this episode destroyed me I’ve read all the theories, first as a coping mechanism and then just having fun with what everyone was finding.

I don’t have a big, unique, in-depth theory. All I can share is what I see now that I am not as clouded by emotion, which isn’t difficult as I was sobbing the first time I watched it and still cried this time. Here we go:

It feels like Aziraphale is lying.

He stumbles so many times at the beginning of what he’s saying to Crowley, like he’s still trying to come up with the story or how to tell it without the parts he doesn’t want to share or to get his desired result.

He almost backs out.

After the kiss when the Metatron is asking if he’s ready to go Azi keeps looking to his right, out the window to where the Bentley is parked and where we see Crowley standing next to it in the next scene.

And Azi almost takes back his acceptance. He goes “I think I…” and then he looks, back to where Crowley is, and he struggles to put on a fake smile and he goes.

Those are not the actions of a man-shaped being who is drugged or brainwashed.

Those are the actions of a man-shaped being who is breaking his own heart to protect someone.

I don’t know what really happened in the conversation between Aziraphale and the Metatron but there was a threat made against Crowley. And the face we see him making in the elevator? When he goes from absolute heartbreak to what looks almost sinister? That’s the face of an angel who has been pushed too far. He is determined. And I hope with all of my heart that we see som BAMF!Aziraphale in season 3.

#and I hope he makes them pay #good omens #good omens season 2 #gos2 spoilers #gos2ep6 #good omens theory #gos2 theory #bamf aziraphale #aziraphale #lying #metatron #in neil gaiman i trust #gos2e6

[221bangelstreet]

Let there be light

I just finished S2. I'm in a... strange place. Giddy and heartbroken and elated and filled with so much anticipation for S3 and with the need to create.

Now off to do David and Neil. The Holy Trinity. The Three Horsemen (Terry being the fourth of course. I might just add him to my little series!)

Here you go to my page if you like.

#good omens #michael sheen #aziraphale #good omens fanart #my fanart #art is healing me #in neil gaiman i trust #but still #give me season 3 now #neil gaiman

[hansoeii]

head empty, no thoughts. just turtleneck crowley

#that was his superior look no one can argue with me about this #literally THE crowley look my god #SHE LOOKED SO GOOD WITH IT #like my god #whoever decided to put david in that turtleneck deserves a raise #TURTLENECK CROWLEY!!!! #LOVE OF MY LIFE #kiss aziraphale again but with the turtleneck it'll work trust me #anyways #good omens 2 spoilers #i guess???? #good omens 2 #good omens #good omens fanart #good omens 2 fanart #crowley fanart #crowley #david tennant #neil gaiman #my art #digital art

[laniakea314]

Crowley trusting Aziraphale with his life and Aziraphale trusting Crowley with his own, both on the same night

Bonus:

“I could always rely on you. You could always rely on me.”

#they trust each other wholeheartedly i feel ill #Crowley looks so fine in 1941 tho #still can’t believe we got a whole minisode about what happened after the church scene #good omens #ineffable husbands #aziraphale #crowley #good omens 2 #aziracrow #david tennant #michael sheen #neil gaiman #good omens spoilers #go2 spoilers

[rainbowpopeworld]

Me when I’m trying to convince someone to watch Good Omens for the first time

#I’m sure it will all be fine #but that won’t be for years #I trust that Neil will give them a happy ending #but this fandom has given me very high expectations #and #brainlichen #that won’t quit #good omens #good omens 2 #neil gaiman #ineffable motherfuckers #ineffable husbands #ineffable* #crowley #aziraphale #michael sheen #david tennant #good omens season 2 #good omens s2 #go2 #aziracrow #gos2 #gomens* #good ineffable omens #spread the joy #and the #brain weasels #good omens season 3 #renew good omens

[littlematchagirlll]

i actually like that none of the theories feel 100% right. i know that once we see what neil gaiman actually has in store, it's going to make perfect sense, and it's going to be something that none of us could have theorized. i'm excited for that

#i trust neil gaiman #more than i trust myself #he knows what he's doing #he loves these characters #he loves this story #good omens 2 #good omens #go2 #crowley #aziraphale #neil gaiman #good omens theories #go3 #good omens 3 #good omens 3 speculation

[wehelddarkness]

thank you mr gaiman! @neil-gaiman​

#!!!!!!!!!!! #mcu cast and now mr gaiman???? #i knew i could trust my faves! #neil gaiman é lula 13 porra!!!!! #br politics #neil gaiman #BORA VOTAR MEU POVO!!!!!

[microclown]

I've been stuck on viewing Maggie as Crowley's mirror, and for most of the show I like that interpretation. But once I started thinking of Nina as Crowley's Mirror in the ball scene specifically, I made a connection....

Aziraphale is playing God here. He has a vision- a happy romantic evening where people speak Victorian English, dress nicely, dance, and fall in love -and he wills everyone present to conform to his plan. But Nina doesn't conform. Nina feels like something isn't right. She asks questions.

She asks Aziraphale what's going on, why she doesn't feel sad when she knows she's sad, and Aziraphale doesn't give her a satisfactory answer. He tells her that the important thing is that she's here. She's here to play a role in his great plan. To dance in his ball.

So she expresses her concerns to Maggie. Maggie hadn't seen the issues at first, but she listens to Nina, and Nina gets her to acknowledge the absurdity of the situation just a little bit. Listen to their conversation at the dance again. It sounds SO MUCH like the conversations we've heard Crowley and Aziraphale have a thousand times during their 6000 year dance. Crowley calling out heaven, asking questions, trying to get Aziraphale to consider the absurdity of it all. Aziraphale mostly defending heaven, but listening, and sometimes acquiescing.

And this all falls in line with a point I've made before - In season 2, Crowley's relationship with Aziraphale begins to mirror his relationship with heaven. Aziraphale shows a pattern of not listening to Crowley the whole season, but especially in this scene. Crowley tries to ask him what is going on, and alert him to very real danger, but Aziraphale is dismissive. He is blinded by his desire to see his plan to fruition.

And just so we're clear, this is not an Aziraphale hate post. Rather, I think it might give us some insight into where God is coming from. Because Aziraphale's actions may be dismissive and controlling, but they are motivated by love. Misguided, certainly, but with all the best intentions. I have a feeling, when we finally meet God, it will be a similar story. And maybe both She and Aziraphale will learn that sometimes to love means to let go.

#keeping this post short because if I think about it too much I'm going to make myself sick #like how Maggie and Nina's conversation happens while dancing #and aziraphale and crowley have been having that same conversation and doing the same dance for 6000 years #it's so romantic and heartbreaking and poetic I think I might actually die #Also... think about how Lindsey broke up with Nina right before this scene #kind of like how heaven broke up with Crowley before the earth began fuck fuck fuk #and then Crowley yells at Nina to trust someone for once in her life like... #he knows nothing about her he's projecting SO HARD #good omens #good omens 2 #good omens season 2 #gos2 #good omens meta #ineffable husbands #aziraphale #aziraphale x crowley #crowley #crowley x arizaphale #aziracrow #neil gaiman #go2 #maggie and nina #reposting slightly edited because I made a mistake the first time #thank you @tip-top-tickety-boo for pointing it out!

[p4nishers]

yeah that's uhh that's definitely something

#'david jenkins is a neil gaiman fan' U SHUT UP!!! IM SO FUCKING SCARED RIGHT NOW U SHUT UP?!!! #the difference in crowley's and ed's expression tho. one is in complete panic and agony and the other is just numb #says a lot if u ask me #something something the demon (or demon coded) character shots at the angel (coded) character who has complete trust in them #something something i dont even know what this means #good omens #good omens s2 #azicrow #crowley #aziraphale #ofmd #our flags mean death #gentlebeard #stede bonnet #edward teach

[cieffeitsme]

It's been 6 months since the end of season 2 (by the way Good Omens has recently still trending again! Wahoo!) and since this it's Valentine's Day soon I thought I'd celebrate our ineffable husbands with a roundup of smooching fan art *(intentionally forgetting that they currently have divorced).

If you are an artist or know other fan art, reblog it below. I need to see more ineffable husbands kissing to heal the heartbreak these two gave me - yes, it still hurts after all this time - !

#Good omens #Good omens 2 #Good omens prime video #Gomens #Good omens fan art #Good omens art #Ineffable husbands #Ineffable crowley fan art #Aziraphale fan art #Michael Sheen #David tennant #Good ineffable omens #Daily good omens #Daily ineffable husbands #Neil gaiman I trust you #Dreaming south downs cottage

[smoxensweetpea]

When great writing/acting/storytelling causes you physical pain.

This line broke me. 💔

#good omens #gos2 spoilers #no nightingales #ineffable husbands #crowley #breaking my heart #but everything will be okay #in Neil Gaiman I trust

[jongwoosbraceletofteeth]

Should we already start making a petition to renew Dead Boy Detectives. I mean that would be easier than like fighting after the cancellation has already happened.

#dead boy detectives #painland #paynland #edwin payne #charles roland #neil gaiman #like im just saying i dont trust netflix #idk man i dont know much but maybe???????? #dbd #i think it is worth mentioning that i have no idea and am also not eligible to do this #so please let me know if anyone does

[ingravinoveritas]

Update/follow up to this post: It looks like Neil responded to the Douglas situation on Bluesky...

I'm not sure I entirely trust this reply, as his tone here seems as curt as Douglas's was on Instagram. Also because "moving onto other projects" doesn't normally involve the extra steps of unfollowing someone and removing mentions of the show from your bio and deactiving your Twitter.

So I stand by my assertion that this feels like something personal has occurred, though I don't think we will ever know what, specifically (and it is still for Neil and Douglas to resolve between them, if they want to). Sad days indeed....

#good omens #good omens 3 #douglas mackinnon #neil gaiman #fandom drama #but i would urge folks not to blindly trust everything Neil says #see re: the Kiss situation #for example #so we'll see what happens #fandom woes #discourse

[charcubed]

I NEEEED people—especially those with unfathomably large platforms???—to start doing just a tiny bit of internal evaluation before they log onto a blue website and say “I don’t want these queer characters to fuck in canon” or “I’d be fine if these characters never kissed again” or whatever.

This is a post about Good Omens and the prospect of Aziraphale and Crowley potentially having sex in season 3. It's a response to a tweet that I'm crossposting, but let it be known the above statement and this topic applies broadly across multiple fandoms too.

But anyway, in regards to Good Omens specifically:

I am seeing this take that essentially boils down to "Canon has now made it clear that these characters want to have sex with each other through subtext (i.e. Aziraphale and the ox), but I don’t want that to reach narrative completion because the idea of them having sex makes me uncomfortable or isn’t my personal preference” and it is, to put it mildly and delicately, A Very Bad Take.

This is rhetorical (and I do not expect or particularly want an answer), but: explain to me how and why queer characters who are unavoidably visibly queer (aka 2 "man-shaped beings") fucking on screen wouldn’t be a net positive, especially when you can indicate how canon has set it up.

Presumably, some people say things like this because ~they want to see them as visibly ace.~ Okay. But by some of these people’s own admission, there IS more evidence in canon now to indicate these characters crave sex with each other (vs arguing otherwise)... yet people would rather that be ignored/erased all for the sake of them feeling comfortable or feeling better about what canon shows or doesn’t show explicitly??

I’m sorry, but—speaking as an ace person, to be clear—your personal preferences for the story shouldn’t / don’t affect anything here. There’s too much in this.

Yeah, I understand on a personal level not having “representation.” I almost never see myself or my unique experiences and identity reflected in stories. And yet, I also understand that that doesn’t change any story or the world in which we live. Things like this are not said in a vacuum.

Any queer characters having sex on screen IS a net positive. It is rare and impactful, and openly calling for or hoping for otherwise when canon points to its potential is a detrimental alliance with purity culture, whether intentionally or accidentally. Because we live in a Goddamn society!

Who knows (other than Neil Gaiman) whether Aziraphale and Crowley ARE going to fuck on international TV. None of us do! But the subtext right now blatantly says they’re starving for it. And you don’t have to like the prospect of that, but honestly? We SHOULD get to see it play out. There’s no truly legitimate reason we shouldn’t ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Whether you "prefer" it or not.

And my ultimate hot take is… if someone balks at the idea of that or doesn’t understand the importance of it, despite even seeing the subtext… then they should perhaps unpack that? Just a thought.

Truly the way fandoms are managing to hit either “subtext doesn’t count :/ ” or “let’s keep it to subtext so it’s ‘open to interpretation’ :) ” nowadays depending on what corner one visits is MADDENING. Whiplash-inducing. Surreal. And so much nonsense you can’t pick where to start.

So! I do genuinely hope I'm not kicking off discourse but I felt this Needed To Be Said (and on more than one site). Because posts like “even if they never kiss again, we’ve won <3 “ make me want to be like…

These characters are YEARNING. Do not doom them and us to it. For once, we can reach for the stars and maybe–against all odds–pull them down. Embrace it!

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[Update: after more discourse has occurred, I have somewhat elaborated on this further, from the POV of the significance of the queer themes in Good Omens and more specifically how they center illicit pleasure/desire]

#good omens #good omens season 2 #good omens spoilers #good omens season 3 #neil gaiman #aziracrow #ineffeble husbands #I'm OVER ITTTT. #this is the delicate version of this rant. trust me. I tried to keep it chill for the sake of posting on main #char writes things #PS adding some brief tags now that the discourse has Escalated: #Mr Gaiman can be pedantic on the internet and pretend by omission he's never heard of subtext all he wants. #it's not what his story is saying and I do actually think he DOES know how to do stories. so. love & light to whatever his deal is. #(what I mean: do not come into my house & try to say 'neil said the ox scene isn't sexual.' inaccurate + that's a whole suitcase to unpack) #(I have now written about All That at length elsewhere with exasperation but it doesn't need to be linked in this post lol.)

[beelzzzebub]

i keep seeing posts about, like, major plot things that people want to see in s3. which is cool, but honestly, personally, i just want... like.... more good omens. like, i'm not setting expectations for things to happen, bc i just want to go in and see the end of the story in the way that terry pratchett and neil gaiman imagined it. for the most part, i think that however we end up getting there, it's going to be just lovely, as long as the world of good omens is still the world of good omens. and obviously i trust that neil gaiman is going to execute that, so like,, idk, i just wanna see the characters being the characters and the story being the story in whatever neat and especially good omens way that we get to see that happen.

#this is not to say that i'm not like #thinking ahead to the story following s2 #like ofc i have thoughts about what could potentially happen #but like #i trust the writers with the story ig #idk #am i going on too much here #it's late bro #i just wanna see how it all plays out #i want to see the ending that terry pratchett and neil gaiman created #i want to see how they get there #i would be very very surprised if i didn't end up appreciative of it however it unfurls itself #boink #good omens

[milkypiggybeans]

just watched dead boy detectives episode 1, are they doing the gay/autistic-coded blue character x bisexual/adhd-coded red character thing on purpose orrrr

#maybe i’ve just watched too many shows like this #shout out sherlock merlin star trek etc (all to varying degrees ofc) #these guys seem almost like caricatures of the trope tbh #praying this show isn’t just more queerbait. i trust neil gaiman to pull through but idk how much involvement he has here #loving the yuri potential though #dead boy detectives