#if you saw this post and got mad

[whitesunlars]

maybe tumblr will listen if i speak its language: remember in 2020 when we all had to sit down and realize that everyone has internalized racism? that everyone has prejudices even if they don't realize it? being antisemitic is more than sitting around wearing a swastika saying you want jews to die. take a look inside yourself and you'll find antisemitism there, too. it's time to address it.

#jewish #jumblr #antisemitism #anyone arguing otherwise will be immediately blocked #this is not a discussion post #judaism #if you're spreading blood libel #if you're lying about what is happening in the news #if you're spreading stories that have been proven false #if you think (((israel))) controls the news #if you think only israel has done wrong #if you think zionists are evil and zionism is wrong #if you still think israel bombed that hospital even after qatari backed al jazeera retracted the article #if you think israel should be destroyed #if you think october 7th was justified in anyway #if any of this questions made you angry #if you saw this post and got mad #if you saw this post and thought ‘what about’… #if you did any of the above congratulations: you’ve got some antisemitism in you #time to start unpacking it

[spacedlexi]

people who think clem surviving makes no sense are so funny. "they were literally foreshadowing her death the entire season" let me introduce you to the concept of a red herring. she tells lilly she isnt lee and shes right. the narrative was forcing her down that path, a path she saw as an inevitable fate waiting to take her too, but its a narrative broken by aj, who is also his own person and not S1 clem

"it happened to lee, and itll happen to you" lilly tells clem she'll die protecting aj from some mistake he makes, when in reality his defiance of her will is what saves her life after she had already accepted her fate. he breaks clem free from the lee cycle and they get their relatively happy ending. good for them

#anyway in the commentary they talk about how they Were going to have a death ending but didnt like the idea of the good/bad ending #and how people would moreso try to avoid the 'bad end' which i understand and appreciate bc thats usually what happens #so instead they gave us both :) idk why some people seem to have such a huge problem with that #they broke the cycle :) the ericson kids broke the cycle by being a loving community :) they all break the cycle by refusing the delta #lilly and minnie were both lost to the cycle. lilly with her dad and minnie with lilly #minnie couldnt let go. clem almost did the same and it would have killed her too. but aj makes a Choice and it saves her #god even tho clem is noticeably happier in s4 shes still so gd depressed and Tired. she accepted it so fast im so glad he saved her #like idk you saw her come back on screen after that massive fake out and you got Mad?? i was crying twice as hard #i know ive made this similar post before but like i still see this criticism in 2024 and i just have to laugh now #it speaks #twdg #i just love the narrative threads of S4 bro.... seasons 1 and 4 are two sides of the same coin and i love that. its satisfying

[hells1nfern0]

Everyone whos saying they pulled a 5 hour long bait and switch on people just for the hl2vrai trailer. It wasn't just a bit for that it was so much more than that. Everyone is switching on a dime calling it such a good joke or staying stuck mad and pissy about it. Genuinely it was a fun stream. It was something the RTVS team clearly had a lot of fun making, they put 3 years of work and planning into it. There is more to them than HLVRAI. They never directly said it would be HL2VRAI.

But honestly though. I can't blame them for teasing it as such. If YOU put 3 years of effort into something would you allow it to just get ignored by everyone because it isn't what everyone cares about you for. Or would you want to make sure all the people started liking you for it initially would see how you grew.

BrBaVRAI was the same thing that HLVRAI was supposed to be. A fun stream with friends.

It isn't just for you man. It's supposed to be something fun and if you genuinely threw a shitfit about it or if you gave up on it called it unfunny, mid, or even bad. Only to turn around once you got what you Wanted.

You do not deserve what the RTVS crew will make.

You do not deserve HL2VRAI

EDIT: Honestly I don't care about most of the shit people are upset about. Yeah its fine for them to troll you they're known for that. Don't treat their work like it was always shit up until the point they gave you the shit you were waiting for. Just because you wanted a Twix doesnt mean a Snickers doesn't taste just as sweet. They aren't morally bad people for a prank that upset you.

#hlvrai #hlvrai2 #hl2vrai #brbavrai #I'm just frustrated is all. I was genuinely hoping that it would be a switch around bait because it would be funny #I even thought it would be funny if people got upset about it #But what I saw was just rude and petty. Even if someone wasn't being all pissy pissy about it there was still so much passive agression #and a ton of fucking guilting #The rtvs crew is not morally in the wrong for a joke you are just sensitive and do not care about them as people #You only see them as a vending machine. #people are already scraping for shit from the trailer ignoring the entirety of the work they did before that #like genuinely if you ignore all of brbavrai just for your little trailer thats genuinely shitty and not fair to the crew for all the work #they did #anyways ill probably stop posting today abt it just it makes me so mad just watching people shit on it when i can tell they loved what they #made #rtvs

[ghastbutlikegay]

by the way i just wanna make sure it's clear that i would 100% rather have my RSD triggered than have someone let me make them uncomfortable to protect my feelings. my disproportionate emotional response is not your responsibility. i dont want people to feel uncomfortable or upset because of me. me having ADHD and being sensitive is not an excuse for me to hurt you

#this isnt about anything in particular #i just remembered a post i saw recently where someone was talking about people using rsd as an excuse to make people let them do whatever #i wanna make sure it's clear that when i mention rsd #it's from a place of 'i would appreciate if you clarify that you dont hate me for doing something that annoyed you/upset you/made you mad' #and not 'never ever tell me to knock it off and never ever be visibly annoyed by me' #i can handle people being mad or annoyed at me #sometimes i just need to hear that like. i didnt ruin a friendship/it isnt forever/they dont hate me now #and id much rather be temporarily upset than lose a friend because they felt like they couldnt tell me i was doing something wrong #and then got fed up with me continuing to do the thing yknow

[sysig]

Some days you just have to scribble (Patreon)

#Doodles #Wander Over Yonder #Commander Peepers #Emperor Awesome #Lord Hater #And technically they're in the margins so #Wander #Sylvia #They'll get their own post! Just ran out of room lol #The last puff of steam off the WOY thoughts this time around - I got Extremely inspired as a last hurrah! #I saw something that made me mad (lol) and it fired me up! #Unfortunately I wasn't warmed up yet and my whole intention was to just Draw #I didn't just want the shapes I already knew! I didn't want to fall in line with expectation! Had to work my way up and you can see a bit :3 #Don't look too hard at the margin doodles yet hehe #But yeah I started kinda cautious and familiar - no sketch-touching and familiar lines and then quickly got sick of that #It's Doodle Time! Scribbles! Messy art! Creation! #So that quickly turned over into sketches that overlapped and shapes that were a bit more out there and fun #In the end the only one with odd shapes ended up being Peepers lol - even the first my-style was a little too samey #Looks a lot like an artist I like who also liked WOY lol - not my intention! /I/ want to make! #But that second to last of him turned out cool I think >:3c He deserves some cool sometimes! #Awesome is actually quite hard for me to stylize! I suppose partially because he's already rather stylized and I'm not much of a fish artist #Drawing him with big dark shark eyes was fun tho haha #And he's always the funnest to pose ♪ #Hater was a challenge too! But I got there eventually :3c Not here but ♪ Eventually ♫ #It was some good warmups all around hehe

[daz4i]

how many times do we gotta go over it man. thought crime isn't real. it's okay to feel whatever you're feeling. don't let anyone make you feel guilty for having some reflex reaction to stimuli in a way that is out of your control. the question isn't what you think or how you feel, but what you do. do you act upon those thoughts? do you harm others bc of your feelings? that's where you draw the line. keep it in your brain. vent it out in some personal way like a journal or a password locked blog. it's okay i promise

#saw a post abt sex repulsion that i mostly agreed with #until op said being disgusted by like. other people having sex is wrong #and like. i agree that if this is your knee jerk reaction you might need to look into it #but sometimes. it really is just disgust of the idea. like it's none of my business but i still find it unpleasant to see or think about #and as someone who feels guilty constantly abt everything. this is actually smth i don't feel guilty over #bc it's just an emotion and like i can't really help it. but also. I'm not hurting anyone by cringing on the inside #i don't think guilting people for feeling a negative emotion is gonna make them unlearn it i think you're just gonna make them feel awful - #- over a very normal human experience (aka. emotions). all this would lead to is ppl hating themselves for smth they can't help #it's not that deep i just got very mad at that phrasing lol esp bc it was aimed at teenagers #a group that is way more vulnerable to this sort of shit in part due to already experiencing emotions more intensely #tldr: don't do that shit man. encourage positive behavior not thought policing

[gaywizardzone]

i spend months hammering out the intricate lore of my universe where everyone i care about in this manga is a woman and then what do i do with all that effort? draw them in Outfits.

#posts that make it obvious that chobits was formative in my taste in pictures of anime characters in Outfits #anyway i promise i do other things with my lore. but it's for me and my three friends #this was mostly an exercise in range....i rely on saturated colors so much i'm trying to break out of it #d.gray-man #if you saw me replace the image no you didn't. i just got mad at how lazy the background was so i had to redo part of it.

[youngyoo-apologist]

OG Choi Han they could never make me hate you cause if some random rich boy was yelling at me and telling me my family deserved to die like a day after it happened and all I wanted was to know how I could get help I’d beat him up too

This plus the added fact that the Harris Village people were the first people to take Choi Han in and take care of him after years and years in the dark forest. Like he’s obviously not going to be mentally stable after all that, and he was so young when everything happened to him like I cannot blame him at all. I don’t think I can ever hate OG Choi Han like ever, he’s flawed, he has problems, but I love him dearly. He deserves the world. This kid who had to fight for his life, was taken away from his family, and in the process had to give up parts of his own humanity to survive, and like went to war two years later, they could never make me hate u OG Choi Han…

Like yeah violence is bad I guess but OG Cale had it coming(saying this as an OG Cale fan, I love him, but he was mean as hell when he was younger!)

If I’m honest, I think they were both in the wrong to an extent. Like OG Cale shouldn’t have said all that no matter the circumstances, and OG Choi Han shouldn’t have beaten him up so much. But u say mean shit and you get hit, that is how it will work when you’re talking to the guy who just saw his entire village get murdered like idkkkk man

I understand where OG Cale was coming from, but he had many issues and while he wasn’t an awful person, he was capable of doing bad things because of his own internalized pain and emotions that he never got to properly process because of his emotionally distant childhood and relationship with his father who should have been there for him more when he was younger.

Okay speaking of his childhood, Deruth isn’t the WORST father in the world but there are a lot of things he could have done better. I think a lot of Deruth’s flaws come from his fear of failure and messing up. He’s scared of doing the wrong thing, and so he sticks to doing what he knows and using what he knows best. That’s why he uses his money, that’s why gift giving is his way of showing affection, he knows that it is one thing he cannot mess up.

The problem is that money and gifts is NOT what OG Cale needed. I think what that guy needed the most was a parent who wasn’t afraid to talk to him, to ask him questions. Not to say that Deruth gave up on OG Cale, but I think in a way he gave up on OG Cale by giving up on himself. Deruth didn’t trust himself to have the capabilities to talk to OG Cale, which is why he never did. It’s because that Deruth was scared, and didn’t trust himself, that he could never face OG Cale

If Deruth was able to trust himself a little more, and pull himself together, I don’t think OG Cale would have turned out the way he did. As a kid, he probably thought the only way he could help his family without relying on anyone(no doubt this whole ‘I have to do it myself’ thing came from the fact that he couldn’t rely on his father when his mom died, and instead was acting as a pillar of support for his father when it should have been the other way around) was to sabotage himself, the only heir. If he was shown to be unfit to be heir, then everyone else would have no choice but to direct their hatred towards him instead of his family.

If Deruth had talked to his son at least ONCE when he was a kid, asking him why he was upset or why he did the things he did, I think OG Cale would have told him. Why? Because he’s a kid!! A kid will obviously want to rely on his father, if he just had one sign telling him that he didn’t have to do it alone I’m 90% sure OG Cale would have said something.

Basically, while Deruth isn’t the worst father, he’s not really a great father either. I think he does do his best, but he has issues with communication lol

OG Cale and OG Choi Han are both complex characters and had their own reasons to behave the way they did. The thing is with people is that they’re complicated and have layers, so the situation with them would have layers behind it as well with multiple co-existing truths and stuff

#guys I’m a big fan of Choi Han #and I get sad when people bring up this scene and all the blame is on him #like okay he was wrong but if YOU saw your entire family dead and some random rich boy started yelling abt how their lives were worthless #you’d be mad too no? #like his feelinsg were totally justified cause OG Cale was REALLY mean in that scene #‘their lives are worth less than the bottle in my hand’ OHHHHH OKAY OG CALE THATS ENOUGH THATS ENOUGHHHH #I love OG Cale but u have to admit he wasn’t very nice when he was younger #like the statements ‘he had his reasons’ ‘being trash was an act’ ‘he wasn’t a bad person’ ‘but he did say bad things’ can co exist #yes being trash was an act but he is ALSO capable of saying mean things and things that are wrong #LIKE TELLING THE GUY WHO JUST GOT HIS FAMILY MURDERED THAT THEIR LIVES WERE WORTHLESS #HE WAS NOT INNOCENT FOR THAT #Younger OG Cale is not a black and white character #and neither is older OG Cale but this post isn’t abt him #okay I’m gonna bring up someone who isn’t from TCF #but take Eunyung Baek from no home as an example okay #eunyung did bad things and was a bad person because of his childhood right #the reasons to being a bad person do not take away the bad things he did #but just cause he did bad things and was capable of them did not mean he could not change #I love OG Cale a LOT and I just think that his character has a lot behind it #Older OG Cale is obviously very different from his younger self #years and years of war and tragedy have matured him and like he’s not the same person he was anymore #okay back to Choi Han I love that guy I will defend him with my life #beating up people is wrong yeah but with the circumstances I’d say OG Cale had it coming #like okay it would be different if it was unprovoked but it was very much provoked #I swear I love OG Cale I just think he was very wrong for that #not to say he can’t change or isn’t capable of change he definitely is #idk I guess my point is that OG Cale was wrong but he changed as a person #and OG Choi Han was wrong for beating him up so much but it wasn’t unjustifiable #tcf #lcf

[front-facing-pokemon]

#this one's like a fucking mystery. who's that pokémon?? what pokémon is this?? you can't fucking tell unless you open the cut or read below #where i tag what pokémon it is. i think i'm gonna put this one's tags above the actual name of the pokémon just to throw y'all for a loop #because this one? i don't even KNOW what counts as front-facing. i'm ASSUMING it's the top one?? but the prey eyes are just #unbelievable so i included that one under the cut. i don't even know if i can consider that “prey eyes” at this point. what is this thing?? #what's the thing protruding?? a mouth?? it doesn't lend itself to making it look any more like a moon! it just— it just protrudes!! #i really just don't understand. what or why this pokémon is or exists. what type is it? pure psychic? #nnnNNAURP rock/psychic. can't believe i forgot about the rock typing considering the way that guy with the solrock in swsh #raid battles used it. whatever i think i've successfully revealed what pokémon this is by now #lunatone #and yes‚ i know now that zangoose walks on all fours in pmd. THANK YOU!!! FOR TELLING ME. EVERYONE ON TUMBLR #i got it when the first person told me. i looked them up. i saw them. with my eyes. i feel like i've talked about pmd enough in these tags #and in asks that i've answered that you all should know how much of a pmd fan i am by now but i guess it's GOOD TO CONFIRM #perhaps no one really does read these tags. unless they have an opportunity to correct me. lasered in on that #i'm not like mad i'm just like WOW everyone told me. that is SO many people telling me after the first one did and i know SO hard #anyway. i'm gonna go remove these tags from the dusclops post. pphhhheew

[needle-noggins]

One day I’ll write my essay on Fifth Moon, July, and why Trigun is about reclaiming body autonomy

#today is just. not yet that day. but it’s close #I saw a dumb post and got big mad about someone vagueblogging about my fifth moon analysis #like bud you don’t even have a counter argument you just don’t like my interpretation because boo hoo it makes your special little meow meo #millions fucking knives - look bad #buddy I have bad news for you about knives’ morals and motivations and disregard for vash as his own person

[drbtinglecannon]

It's actually really disappointing people are genuinely angry/upset about Hunter's haircut

Y'all. It's the exact same scenario as Amity changing hers

It was a style their abusers forced on them to mimic a specific person, so by changing it they get to take their autonomy back

The other thing with Amity's cut is it was symbolic of her cutting her abuser out of her life; between the new color relating to her passion (abomination) & purposely keeping some of the brown rather than it just grew in over time (her father's hair color), it was some cool foreshadowing that Amity was going to cut Odalia out of her life, like she did the green out of her hair, but that Alador was gonna stay. I wrote a post about this months ago after COTH aired

Hunter's cut is the same symbolism. He only had that style because he was modeled after Caleb, and because Belos genuinely never saw a single GG as their own person, they were all just Caleb to him. Yeah, I would've liked to see the headcanons of him dying it red for Flapjack, but him changing the style itself is still symbolic of him no longer being modeled after Caleb, and literally cutting away the last of Belos' influence on him.

I'll admit I found Amity's new cut weird when we first saw it but I was fully behind the idea of her completely changing it after we saw it was modeled after her abusive mom. Now when I rewatch S1 the old style looks weird to me bc I'm so used to the current one (and the meaning behind the old style really sours the look of it for me which is a shame cuz I loved the green when we first met her)

Hunter's new cut might look weird (esp since it's just in a poster rn) but again, I'm fully behind the idea of him completely changing it after everything we've seen since Hollow Mind. We won't have nearly as much time with it as we had with Amity's new look, but I'm sure the "it looks weird bc it's different" feeling will fade just as fast as it did for Amity, especially when you remember the meaning behind the old one.

TL;DR even if you think the specific style of Hunter's new cut looks weird, 1. It's because it's brand new you'll get used to it, 2. The meaning behind the cut is more important than "his old style looked better"

#toh #toh spoilers #the owl house season 3 #toh hunter #amity blight #the symbolism of cutting abusers out & taking back autonomy matters more than if its hot or not y'all. hes 16 let him have an awkward cut #im kinda flabbergasted to see the angry & entitled demands it be changed back or changed to something better. like. dana has already been #treated so poorly by execs this entire time & now fans are crying their fav got a haircut & demanding she change it? fucking come on #tc posts #the hair noodle being a thing Flapjack & him had is kinda the same how i feel about darius using little prince anymore. yeah it was their #thing but they can get a new thing that isnt related back to belos in anyway & its ok to allow that kinda change! #toh meta #i saw someone mad about the haircut & the gloves like! do you want your traumtized fav to heal or not pal?

[tittyinfinity]

no offense but I still see absolutely no reason for superstores not to be 24 hours again. how does it help stop the spread of covid to make sure more people have to be in the building at the same time instead of allowing night people to go at a time that works best for them? what if people who work overnights need something? and what about people who want to work overnights but can't find a job because they stopped doing 24 hour stores?

And why are other places closing earlier and earlier now, too? The PHARMACY of all places? most of them used to be 24 hours, now there's only one of them on the far outer edge of the city. They used to at least be open until 11 up til a few months ago, now they close at 7 on weekdays and 5 on the weekends. don't...people...have to go to the pharmacy for covid treatment and vaccines? How does THAT help prevent the spread of covid?????

#i've posted this like 5 times I know I can't shut up I'm mad #I almost just missed my prescription at 7pm bc the person in front of me took 20 minutes and they wouldn't let me go ahead and pick up my #already ready prescriiption #had to tell them i needed my seizure meds NOW and I wasn't going to leave when I was already there #and they saw me there the whole time #tried to say no pharmacy is closed and i was like ok so you want me to have seizures #i got kinda bitchy #sorry but if my meds were already ready let me go ahead UNTIL THEIRS IS READY #but then it was super embarrassing bc i didn't have enough money for my meds #and they had to pull out a change jar and count pennies.... #i got it tho #.bdo

[oceanwithouthermoon]

the realization that tumblr does not work like twitter and i cant just vague post about random discourse or arguments otherwise people will wrongfully assume its about them has flipped my whole life upside down

#exaggerating obviously but still like i vague post so much #did not realize people thought this #like wdym i cant just vague vent about a random argument i had with friends #because at least one person will probably think im talking about them #especially with a blog dedicated to like a small fandom circle like saiki k #whoops! #i once vaguely posted about how i hate getting called boring for disliking toxic ships- #and i got an anon ask being like 'i feel like that was about me cuz i JUST posted a saiki k toxic ship post' #and i just deleted the ask cuz i was like haha thats dunb ofc it wasnt about anyone on here #why would i subtweet about people on here right on here #and not every one of my posts is about saiki k #not only am i in multiple fandoms but also not every post is even a fandom post #that post was about twitter discourse that was making me mad lmfao #then i slowly realized that thats common actually like people assume that shit a lot #whoopsy daisy #any time i post about fandom discourse too- #ppl always think im talking abt them but im always either talking about a post i didnt want to reply to cuz it was from years ago- #or sometjing i saw on like twitter or pinterest or tiktok #if u ever wonder if im vague posting about you- of course im fucking not #i would lowkey just reply directly tbh #lol this is why i hate when people ask me 'who is this about' cuz idk bitch someone who hasnt been active here for like three years- #or some random user on tiktok!! i dont know!!! #i think i did post directly abt someone here like once ? and it was cuz i was sure that person was like 14- #so i didnt want to reply to them and be all mad #so i posted about it cuz i was like well i see people do that a LOT so whatever #(talking about 'teruhashi ruins my gay ships cuz shes a stupid bitch woman🤓' btw) #even then i didnt rlly consider it like a callout post of them or anything cuz theyre just one person out of hundreds that have done that #sorry these tags are so long lol i just erm.. its kinda funny to me ig idk #meows post

[craycraybluejay]

Just saw a post that's like "if you don't have someone of [x race/gender/sexuality/religion] in your friend group you're racist/sexist/homophobic/etc."

Girl.

My friend groups are Not Here for your fucking representation. Real actual life is not a show or a videogame. You click with who you click with and I immediately distrust someone with like 20 friends from every known minority more than someone with like 2 friends that have things like race/religion/gender in common with them.

Like. Is it not infinitely weirder and more x-phobic to feel the need to walk up to [specified token minority] and try to befriend them even if?? You don't have any reason to and don't think you'd get along?? Like if this person isn't wearing cool clothes (especially related to stuff I'm into like bands), or saying anything particularly interesting that I'm listening to, what? I should just make it my job to be their friend? Because my friend group needs more "rep"? I'm not a corporation. I don't give even half a fuck about your movement if your movement wants to tell me who I must and must not be friends with. Fuck you.

#saw a post saying if you dont have a person of colour in your friend group youre racist #making this post separately as to not start drama with the OP #but like #you are not obligated to have token minorities in your friend group. like. you should be friends with ppl bc u like them #im literally so mad at this i was nodding along w the post till i got to that #like huh? #what??? #apparently i was racist in high school because i had like 2 friends and neither were poc #til #not to be one of those guys but sjw culture is bullshit #nowadays everything is more about using token minorities for political and monetary reasons other than actual helpful activism #im sick and tired of it and im sorry but your status as a minority does not make you less fucking boring to me #theyre bringing minority pandering to regular human relations now too.. #yes my friends are parts of minorities sorry theyre not all of them #how about you shut up :)

[broke-on-books]

☕

The live action Scooby-Doo movies?

I did not see this ask until RIGHT now (first time on desktop since crab day, second time since Nov 5 2020 [which was DOUBLY experience since I got my phone taken the same day]) so I'm going to assume this ask got eaten on mobile because tumblr, HOWEVER you poked a bear with this ask anon (as I'm sure you knew when asking) SO without further ado: my Scooby Doo live action opinions

So when you say 'live action Scooby-Doo movies' I'm assuming you're talking about the James Gunn films, starting with Scooby-Doo (2002) followed by Scooby-Doo 2: Monsters Unleashed, just due to like, generally popularity and also the fact that I have actually seen those films. However shoot another ask if you wanted me to include Curse of the Lake Monster in this (because I will if anyone cares and turn this into a live-action scooby dissertation, i'd just need to like. watch the movie first) But anyways where I'm going with this is that this post is about the Gunn movies aka the ones with SMG, Freddie Prinze Jr., Linda Cardellini, and ofc our #1 man, Matthew Lilliard.

Okay so my take on these movies is... complicated. I wouldn't say it's as complicated as my feelings towards SDMI, because I watched the live actions way less as a kid and generally care less about them, but still no matter how much shit I throw at these two movies there are parts that I generally like (even love) that stops me from totally condemning them wholesale. Like the fact that these movies are FUNNY! There's so many moments from this duology that are just beyond iconic "like, that's one of my favorite names!" the whole thing with Scooby in the dress at the airport, ET. CETERA (like I can go on!)

The Gunn movies are genuinely SO fun and I can 100% see and understand how they've stood so well in the public view as a representation of Scooby. HOWEVER, this is where you start to see my problems with them. For the general American, (because that is the audience I'm familiar with) ESPECIALLY millennials and younger, who happen to make up the majority of both people on this site AND people I talk about Scooby with in real life, these movies, and the elements they introduced as "quintessential scooby tropes" are the base of their understanding of the Scooby franchise, along with likely some miscellaneous WAY episodes and maybe SDMI.

Which is where I get pissed off. In the pushing of the narrative of "breaking away" from the Scooby norm, Gunn basically invents (aka totally makes up) an idea of what classic era Scooby was like, cementing an idea of classic Scooby into the public mind that is totally disingenuous and just straight up false. For example, in attempting to portray Daphne as having taken strides to be seen more seriously in solving mysteries and defending herself, it pushes the narrative that in the classic era she WASN'T taken seriously, and only existed as a damsel-in-distress prop of a character, which is just not true??? Like yes, Daphne is clumsy, that's a part of her character, and her friends (because, fun fact, the gang ARE friends) joke about it sometimes because that's what friends DO. Framing that in some kind of sexist "that's all she does" lens is just total bull, especially as gang members fall into secret passageways/get lost etc. in WAY ALL THE DAMN TIME because that's how the plot functions! Like are we calling Velma ditzy for losing her glasses every other episode? Of course not, and Fred falls into passageways all the time, not to MENTION Shaggy and Scooby and all they get up to. Also one last thing on the topic of Daphne, like this idea of her mystery solving skills not being respected by the gang is just so supremely bullshit it amazes me sometimes, especially when she was the LEADER (or leader adjacent) through pretty much all of her appearances in the 1980s [Not that James Gunn could look at '80s era Scooby without spitting on it, but I digress]

AND THIS IS JUST DAPHNE! Like the perceptions pushed towards Fred (and Velma, but mostly Fred) through these movies are just as bad! Like okay, with Fred---In these movies Fred is just an asshole. I hate Gunn Movies!Fred. I mean yeah he can be funny but it's almost always so mean! Almost nothing makes me madder than a mean Fred by the way. If he's putting other gang members down (even halfway, like with his whole "dorky chicks like you turn me on too" line, which... ew) then to me something has gone very, very, VERY, wrong in your basic understanding of Frederick Herman Jones as a character. Like he's the cheerleader! He puts himself in between his friends and danger! He loves nets, and traps, and Elvis impressions, and wrestling, and the trapeze, and cars, and most of all he LOVES sharing the things he loves with his friends! (Sometimes to a bit of an extreme. No one wants to hear about your net facts, Fred) And the live action movies just don't understand that at all. And I know there's maybe something to say I suppose in that some of those aspects of his characterization hadn't been "established yet" by the time "Scooby-Doo" came out in 2002. But it's there if you look. For Fred Jones, being the leader means being the caretaker, (he's the Mom friend what can I say) and any version where he's cruel and arrogant and just DOESN'T CARE about his friends in the way he's shown to in the Gunn movies is just so far from Fred to me it's not even funny. And what makes it even worse for me is that this (or at least something similar) is the idea of Fred that has really spread to the popular culture. Just the "leader", the jock that makes the rules, the one that [insert X adaptation here] finally gave a personality and made interesting (something that has been said more times than I can count for pretty much every gang member, save Shaggy and Scooby).

And I haven't even touched on Velma, and how they gave her a bit of a early 2000s smart superiority girl complex against Daphne, plus the whole makeover thing and etc. etc. The Gunn Movies are pretty much what would happen if you took someone who hadn't seen Scooby since they were 7 years old (and honestly had a pretty negative outlook against it then) and tried to "fix" it, only his memory was so bad he just made up problems (and threw in a good helping of early 2000s style sexism with it) convincing pretty much the entirety of the popular culture that said problems exist and that Gunn was absolutely brilliant for fixing them (and then bringing up said "problems" whenever anyone wants to talk about Scooby) and this entire rant has been without even fucking MENTIONING what is probably the reason you, anonymous tumblr user sent this ask in the first place, to I, Swishy "Scrappy Doo Redemption Arc" Broke-on-books (dot tumblr dot com), which is his HIGHLY SUCESSFUL and utterly sadistic character assassination of my number one man, Scrappy Doo.

And I am going to try my damnedest here not to get totally into my highly passionate opinions over what James Gunn did to Scrappy in the first of his Scooby movies and how thoroughly it has pissed me the fuck off because I have been writing this post for over an hour now and if we start to really get into my feelings on this topic it will certainly be a couple of hours more but like. That Fucking Bitch. I give James Gunn personally a solid eighty-five percent of the blame for making my life as a Scrappy Doo fan UTTERLY unbearable with this stupid fucking movie alone, and just his Scrappy crimes would honestly be enough for me to say that I hate this movie, not even considering the numerous Scooby crimes I've been talking about here for the past million paragraphs, but the part about this movie that makes me the MOST mad the most pissed off is that it's actually a good fucking movie. James Gunn wrote two hilarious and entertaining movies that have become beloved in the popular culture for their successes in that arena, while at the same time pissing all over the core themes and messages of the franchise of which it was based, that of friendship.

TLDR; The Live Action Scooby Doo movies (written by James Gunn) are highly entertaining and fun pieces of media to watch, and are widely loved by the general public and looked at with fondness and nostalgia because of that. However, as a hardcore Scooby Doo fan (writing that phrase sounds so ridiculous but oh well) the existence of these movies and their impact on the popular culture can be extremely frustrating (despite any personal nostalgia said fan may have) due to their spreading of a misinformed picture of what "typical Scooby Doo" looks like. This picture is especially frustrating due to the fabrication or exaggeration of problems present in classic Scooby (such as sexism in regards to the girls), as well as giving more ammunition to other problems in Scooby fandom (such as oversexualization, and sexualization in general, which no one wants to see in regards to their children's cartoons, like HONESTLY.) Discussions of sexism and sexualization in Scooby (both of which ARE present and are issues, although not at their worst in WAY) can often lead to an overlooking of the issues that are very present and clear in WAY and have continued since then with far too little resistance (I'm 100% talking about the racism here) HOWEVER that topic deserves at least a dozen posts of its own that I am no way informed or qualified enough to even begin to think about writing. The Gunn Movies are frustrating to many longtime Scooby fans because of these reasons, but for me, and fellow Scrappy Doo fans there is also the added aspect of the demonization of Scrappy Doo in the live action movies and the affects that has had on the popular culture as well, making it uniquely inhospitable to like or enjoy the character of Scrappy. End post.

#that last sentence is such a weird tone jump btw but its because the topic flowed one way and i had to jump it back to a summary to actually #finish this monster of a post #SO anon i hope you're happy with this and this makes my opinion make some more sense. and you or anyone else is more than welcome to ask me #questions about anything i said here or my opinion on any and everything scooby related (and not) so if theres a specific aspect of this yo #would like expanded on i can definitely 100% do that for you or anyone who cares #also there are many complexities towards my feelings on these movies that i didnt get to hit on despite the monstrous size of this rant (il #check word count later but im not gonna fuck with it now because im terrified of deleting this post by accident) one of which is my lasting #fondness towards all of the actors in this movie. YES including freddie prinze jr. i may have major issues with his fred but hes also playe #characters i really really like. for example hes the va in this tv show i LOVE and havent watched in like 10 months despite the fact im on #the last season because freddie's character dies in like 7 episodes and i am NOT AT ALL emotionally prepared for that on any level because #that is my fictional father goddamnit!!!!! #also every buffy the vampire slayer gifset that crosses my dash gets me closer and closer to watching it because oh my god daphne!!!!! that #sarah michelle gellar thats daphne oh my god!!!! also i went and saw guardians of the galaxy 3 with my friend (despite not having seen a #marvel movie in 2+ years AND holding a grudge over james gunn's scooby doo crimes)[the things you do for {platonic} love amirite?] #and the title sequence SAID linda cardellini was in it and i got SO excited i was looking everywhere for her it was like wheres waldo in th #discount movie theatre FOR REAL and i just could NOT for the life of me find her (turns out she was VAing the ferret) so in a way linda mad #me cry with that role. whatever. istg i get so off topic i forget what i was even talking about but ANYWAYS <<<1 of my fave english words b #dubs (my favorite spanish word is el amanacer btw. it means sunrise. also burbujas because its bubbles and saying it sounds like bubbles #popping) BUT. AS I WAS SAYING. SEND ME ASKS IF YOU WANT SCOOBY DOO OPINIONS. DEAR GOD I GET SCATTERBRAINED SOMETIMES. #scooby doo #answered #anonymous #blah

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i want to compile a list of horror media that people need to watch before they call genloss groundbreaking incredible material. like yall are soooo so deeply entrenched in copium toting this thing around like its the best piece of horror media in the world when like. theres no horror. there has literally been no horror. how are we watching the same thing. go watch gemini home entertainment or marble hornets or daisy brown or unedited footage of a bear or this house has people in it and then come back to me. dont fucking talk to me until youve consumed some horror media thats actually good first!!!!!!!!

#sorry i KNOW i said i wouldnt genloss post too much but it just makes me so fucking angry #as a very very very long term horror enthusiast and aspiring horror creator #i feel fucking insulted every time i see genloss being listed as something incredible . when. #theres no horror or comedy in your horror comedy that was originally advertised for two goddamn years as an arg n then analog horror and th #like. pick a theme. give me literally anything. its so bad. im so angry. and i DONT get angry at media. #i actively try not to grt angry at media and legitimately havent since veryyyy early middle school. #so the fsct that this thing is making me so mad is a huge deal. #anyone who has known me for any number of years knows like. i dont get mad about shit!!! #especiallt shit that doesnt rlly matter like fictional media!!! i dont like to expend the energy on that!!! #so when i say genloss makes me so angry to the point where i was literally #sweaty and out of breath after aster and i got off the phone talking abt it the other day #i need you to understand i am not a hater #like #ughgrrghrggghghh #go fucking watch saw (2004) youll have a much better time than watching whatever bs this is #ranboo makes this big long post about how his project is better than aevery other horror short film #and doesnt deserve to be put on a shelf with the rest of them as if theyre beneath his genius vision #and then gives us this cheap heartless garbage that isnt even unique in its badness. #hes just using ideas from other things but doing it worse!!!!!! theres nothing new!!! theres nothing unique!!! #two years of promotional content and like 5 hours of livestreams and they have not given me a single #character or story beat that is interesting enouhj to care about. you cant have horror without first #giving your audience something to care about and then snatching that thing away from them. urhhggghghghgh #reaction time #genloss neg #genloss crit #sorry. im trying to keep the hater posting to a minimum but im so. exhausted