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afaimsarrowverse · 4 years

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Arrowverse: January 2020: Crisis and Beyond

I did one of these before the first three parts of „Crisis on Infinite Earths“ and it seemed to go good, so I am doing a second one again. No speculations, no fake news, only facts: Stuff about „Crisis on Infinite Earths Part 4&5“ and the future of the Arrowverse as a whole:

Beware Spoilers!

Crisis on Infinite Earths:

Part 4 and 5 - also known as Arrow Episode 8.8 und Legends of Tomorrow Episode 5.0 -will air on the 14th of January on the same night.

What will happen?

We’ve got the synopsis for Part 4 and a very much not-synopsis for Part 5. The paragons are stranded at the Vanishing Point, searching for a way out. The Flash vanishes, and Oliver, who has become something else, appears. From Part 3 and the promo-material we know that Oliver has become the Spectre. Jim Corrigan, as we learn in at least one of the latest promos, helps Oliver to take over the mantle. An older promo did also hint that we are going to see the Reverse-Flash after all in this crossover, and many fans think that he might be involved in the disappearance of the Flash. Promo-Matrial shows us that the Speed Force is very much intact, Eobard might have survived while hiding either in the Speed Force or the Negative Speed-Force. However until now there has been no official confirmation for the Reverse Flashs role in the crossover, he might not actually be in the crossover, but only appear to Barry when he is in the Speed Force. The promos hint that Barry disappears via Speed Force while Ryan Choi und presumably Lex Luthor work on a machine that should get all of them out of the Vanishing Point. Their will be at least one Speed Force sequence in Episode 4, in which a lot of the Arrowversecast could show up, even though none of them exists any more right now. However, given that this is the Arrow-Episode, it’s more likley that a lot of people from Arrow and Olivers past will show up during Olivers transformation to the Spectre. One of them could be Laurel Lance from Earth-1, who was confirmed to be in the crossover, quite a while ago. We will also learn the origin of the Monitor and the Anti-Monitor and our hereos will face the Anti-Monitor at the dawn of time.

The Battle at the Dawn of Time

Was filmed in a quarry and has the paragons fighting the Anti-Monitor and his shadow-demons. That scene has been in the trailers since Day 1. Remember that blueish graded scene? Well, it’s finally happening, however the grading seems to be gone. Or is it? Spectre-Oliver also is there. So maybe the grading is like Spectre-Vision or Spectre-Time? However they could have jossed it all together as well.

And then?

Presumable after that the Earths or at least some part of the Multiverse is back, because we haven seen Black Lightning, Frost, und Heatwave (it’s currently unknown if it’s Earth-1 Mick or the Crisis-Mick) in StarLabs. They are fighting Shadow Demons as well.

The Final Battle

Also there is a second battle against the Anti-Monitor, that involves not just the paragons, but also Dreamer, Alex Danvers, Superman, Ray Palmer, Wild Dog and Dinah Drake – as well als Heatwave and Frost – so yeah, our cast is back. This ist he final battle and will occur during Episode 5. We don’t know much more about it, expect that Shadow Demons are there as well.

Superpowers and Time Travel

It has been sayed several times, that Sara will gain superpowers and that this storyline will spin out of the crossover. In the promos we also see Lex Luthor firering some kind of energy blast. While this could be technology based, mabye the paragons (all of them) get some special powers in order do defeat the Anti-Monitor? Or maybe it’s just some of them. One seems to be Sara.

As for the time travel aspect. Strange things are going on in the promo-material. For one: There was this picture with Kara and Oliver in their old uniforms, which could not have been a flashback because Kara has her current hair (and they did use a wig before this Season while doing a Season 2 flashback, so it seems unlikley that they would forget putting one on her during the crossover!). This could be a vision of some kind though. Then there is the Young Monitor shown interacting somewhat with some of our heroes. Again could be visions, but in one of these sequences Kara is doing something very strange behind him, which has been interepreted as slowing down or reversing time. Also Wild Dog seems to be back in his armored uniform, which he ditched after Season 6. But given whom they are fighting, this would just be the smart move.

There are other strange things going on as well. A scenes shows Sara bursting in a pinkish bedroom fighting Shadow Demons. Also we got one shot of Barry in civilan clothes and more then one shot of Sara in Outfits Pasts, that look kind of familiar, as in from the past so… again all of this could be some sort of vision. Or it could be time travel. We don’t know at this point.

Also Sara from the past: There is one scene in which she looks very much dead/dying/badly hurt, which could be where she gains her superpower or it could be a revisiting of her Arrow Season 3 death, either in vision or through time travel.

Stargirl

Marc Guggenheim told us, that there are a lot of guest appearances coming up. One of them is Laurel Lance from Earth-1. Another one is Stargirl, but not the Arrowverse JSA-Version, but the new version from the new show. This version will actually make her screendebut during the Crossover. Somewhen during spring Season 1 of „Stargirl“ will air on The CW. It will also be available on the DC-App, a day or so before the episode in question will air on The CW. However even though we can’t know for sure what the future brings, the show is considered CW-Property at the moment and a part of the Arrowverse.

After Crisis:

After Part 5 all the shows will pick up where the have left off. But most of them are expected to have some sort of fallout from Crisis. Even Black Lightning.

Arrow

Having only two episodes left after Crisis, „Arrow“ is coming to an end. The first episode after Crisis is the Backdoor-Pilot. (More about this one later). Then on the 28th of January „Fadeout“ the two hour „Arrow“-Finale will air. Felicity will be back for this episode. As will Rory Regan. We will also see Roy, Anatoly, and Sara in it. As well as probably Thea and Quentin, because Willa Holland and Paul Blackthorne were both confirmed for muliple episodes this season, but have only shown up once so far. They could appear in Crisis instead, but the safer bet would be the Series Finale. Expect many more returns and guest appearances for that. Evidence suggests that Barry might be in it, but that could have been someone else in red. The synopsis is a non-synopsis again, so don’t expect to find out what it actually is about until after the Backdoor-Pilot.

The Flash

„The Flash“ returns a little bit later then the other shows. It’s back on 4th of Febuary with an episode called „Marathon.“ Given the later date, we know much less than about the other shows post Crisis. The three episoded after this one are called „Love is a Battlefield“, „A girl named Sue“ and „Grodd friended me“. All of this episodes will air in Feburary. Sue Dearborn will finally be introduced in those episodes. „A girl names Sue“ is going to be very much about her. She will be played be Natalie Dreyfuss. If the show follows the comics she is going to be Ralphs future wife. At least we can expect some sort of romance, I guess. We were told that there was going to be another Ralph-Centric episode this season, „A Girl named Sue“ is a good candidate for this as well as it is for Sues first appearance. The episode after brings back Grodd. Also back is Wally West, there will be an episodes in which he fights a classic villain with a new face. Another new character and potenial big bad for the back half of the season is Eva McCulloch, she will be played by Efrat Dor and might have something to do with the conspiracy Team Citzien will try to unveal in the upcoming episodes. There have been rumors about her being a female version of Mirror Master, so we will see what kind of villain, if any, she will turn out to be. There will be at least one more episode with Chester P. Runk in it. And we were told that we will learn more about Nash Wells and his secrets, however anything Nash-releated will probably depend on what’s going to happen with Pariah at the end of Crisis.

Season 7 has been ordered by The CW and Grant Gustin has renewed his contract and signed up for it.

Supergirl

„Supergirl“ will be back on the 19th of January with an episode called „The Bottle Episode“. The term „Bottle Episode“ originated from the „Star Trek: TNG“-Production-Team and signifies episodes which safe money and therefore take place on the standing sets, don’t use guest actors etc. However this episode might be named that for another reason. While the synopsis, only speaks of complications after Crisis and a chaotic threat, it is the episode with Meaghan Rath. She is Jesse Raths sister, and we were told she is going to play a female version of Brainiac-5. The first Brainiac has a certain bottle-collecting habit in the DC-Canon, and what’s really interesting is what is in those bottles. It is unknown where this new Brainiac-5 Version comes from. Is she from an alternate earth? Has Brainy somehow become a woman? Originally the part was described as Brainys sister. We will have to wait and see.

Next up is the two-parter „Back from the Future“. David Harewood directed Part 1 (Melissa is going to direct an episode later this season). The synopsis speaks of a Toyman copycat and the episode sees Winn Schotts return to the show (this is where the title comes from). It’s possible but not very likley that we are going to see the Legion of Superheroes in this two-parter. Jermery Jordan is contraced for three episodes this seasons. Apart from the two-parter, he could show up at the end of „The Bottle Episode“ or – which is prefable – in the episode after the two-parter which ist he 100th episode of „Supergirl“. It’s called „It’s a Super Life“ and it’s „Supergirl“s spin on „It’s a Wonderful Life“. Instead of an angle, she gets a certain imp, played by Thomas Lennon this time around. Mxyzptlk shows Kara a world without her, at least that what they want us to beliefe is happening in the 100the episode. Guest Star alert! Odette Annabelle is back, so ist Sam Witwer, we also get the return of the characters of Otis Graves and Thomas Coville. This seems like they will concentrate of the plots of Season 3 and 4, rather then the earlier Seasons, but it’s still very much possible that Cat, Maggie, and Mon-El show up in this one as well. There has been much buzz about Chris Wood being in it, but nothing is confirmed. Yes, he was in Vancouver for quite a long time, but it was the Holiday Season, Melissa did just release her Insta-Video about her abusive realtionship, and he is her husband after all. That fact alone could be reason enough for him to be at the 100th episode party. Yes, he was the only former castmember there, but like I said, he is Melissas husband. It would make sense to expect Mon-El back sometime this season, but I wouldn’t bet on it. By the way, Andrea Brooks will definifly be back some time this season, depending on the lenght of her maternity leave.

Season 6 of „Supergirl“ has already been ordered by The CW.

Legends of Tomorrow

Season 5 of „Legends of Tomorrow“ is finally going to premier in January. „Crisis Part 5“ is said premier, however the producers do consider it a special, and the episode „Meet the Legends“, which airs on the 21th of January, the proper Season Opener. Appearantly the Legends have become famous, Sara isn’t too pleased, Ray, Mick, Nate and the others are enthusiastic about it and invite a documentary crew on the „Waverider“. A new timetravel-related problem emerges in the form of Rasputin, who is back from hell and not so easy to deal with. Meanwhile Constantine finds out the reason behind the new blips in the timeline. The reason ist Astra Logue, as we know. We also know that current Legend Behrad Tomaz is not the wind-totem bearer that was on the team in the last two seasons, but his sister Zari is. But last time we checked the Legends didn’t know that. Tala Ashe will be back as the new version of Zari this season, so no worries there. Gary and Ava will also be back, even though the Time Bureau is gone. Mone seems to hang out with the Legends now, while Ava must figure out what’s next for her.

As mentioned before Sara gets Superpowers. Even though they are a side effect of some kind of magical illness – maybe. The back from Hell villains will be called „Encores“ and will also be the main problem for the Legends this season.

Given that the „Arrow“-Finale is a two-parter „Legends“ might already be off again in the week after the Season-Opener. It should be back on the week after the „Arrow“-Finale though. Caity Lotz directed Episode 5.5. „Mortal Khanbat“. Brandon Routh and Country Ford are sadly to be expected to leave the show around the middle of the season. Brandons last episode might be either 5.7 „Romeo V Juliet: Dawn of Justness“ or 5. 8. „Zari, not Zari“. He filmed something with the Legends during the shoot of „Zari, not Zari“ but this might have been for 5.7. or the Crossover. Like Season 4 Season 5 sadly has only 16 episodes, one of them being the special „Crisis Part 5“.

As we saw in the trailer, Ray will get to impersonate a TV-Persona, Nate gets high or learns to fly (maybe both), Beebo is back and so are the puppets. There will be aSteelatom-Episode that involves a prom. Avalance is still very much alive, and we may find out what Charlies secret is, and the Constantine/Hellblazer-Storyline may conclude this season. Given that we are alreay losing Ray, we might not want that, but it could happen.

However at least Season 6 has already been ordered by The CW.

Black Lightning

Still no news about when Season 3 will appaer on international Netflix, but The CW picks up again on 20th of January with „The Book Markovia Chapter One“. Jefferson will deal with the Crisis fallout, while the rest of the cast pretty much picks up where the left of.

Season 4 has already been ordered by The CW.

Batwoman

Batwoman is still winglady to „Supergirl“ and comes back on the 19th of January. „How queer is everthing today“ picks up after the devastating events of 1.8., however the synopsis mentoned „Batwoman’s akward encounter“, so I have no idea what that alludes too. Can’t be Crisis, so it must be something else. Timlinewise we will also learn in this episodes, if the general Season 1 events have reached Crisis or not. „An Un-Birthday-Present“ celebrates the Kane-Sisters birthday and teases a guest in Gotham. The next two episodes are titeled „Take your choice“ and „Drink me“. Upcoming is a Rooftop-Kiss and maybe Batwing. As always everyone involved in this show is a lot more tightlipped about upcomind events then the rest of the Arroweverse.

Season 2 has already been ordered by The CW.

Also „Batwoman“ is the strongest argument against th death of the Multiverse and only one earth after Crisis. In order for this, „Batwoman“ and „Titans“ would have to take place on the same earth and inside the same continuity. Ser Jorah Mormont would have to be Bruce Wayne, they would have to settle on one Slade Wilson,, etc. Unless they undo all of it again before Season 3 of „Titans“ happens.

Green Arrow und the Canaries

The Backdoor-Pilot airs on the 21th of January. Mia, now called Queen instead of Smoak, is back in 2040 and has everthing she could have wanted. However Laurel of Earth-2 und Dinah show up in search for a kidnapping victim with a direct connection to Mia. The three team up to save the city. The grown up version of John Diggle Jr. is in this episode, so he might be the antagonist in this. There is no offiical word on William or Connor yet. As for Laurel und Dinah they seemd to be without Age-Make-Up. So they might have time travelled. That or they were aged up digitally in post. Or they jossed the Make Up for some reason.

Somewhen after it airs The CW will decide if they are going to pick the show up or not. It could be a swift decesion, however it’s more likely not to be decided until Pilot Season, when the solidify their programm for the next season. Don’t hold your breath, just be patient.

And don’t expect plot-details until after Crisis.

Superman and Lois

Will spin ouf of Crisis. The Pilot is about to be shot in spring. During Pilot Season The CW will view it and then decided wether to pick it up or not. Chances of getting picked up are very high, unless Warner steps in and decides Superman is to be Movie-only-property again after all.

The show is a Spin-Off of „Supergirl“ and will feature Tyler and Bitsie and not Brandon Routh. It will be about their lifes as parents, journalists, and superheroes. The show kind of picks up where „Lois and Clark“ ended – the couple as young parents.

There have been supersons-rumors going around. Depending on the end of Crisis, there could be a reason for this. Remember the dialog about two kids? And that other Superman who happens to have a son? However, we will have to wait for the end of Crisis for that one. It might not happen after all. Plus: The show is not picked up yet. So we will have to wait and see for more plot details.

Green Lantern

The DC show is coming to HBOmax. It’s rumored to be set in the Arrowverse, however not confirmed. As Crisis has shown so far: All DC Properties are set in the Arrow-Multiverse, so maybe they are going to strenghten that connection in the coming years. However like I said, nothing is confirmed yet.

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chucklestheechidona · 4 years

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Freedom Fighters - An Unceremonious Death

For the love of god let them die

Look, I like the Freedom Fighters. More the reboot than the preboot, they have less baggage, but still, I respect what they did. But if you’ve read my other dumb things you also know I think Red Dwarf USA had a real chance of working, so maybe I’m just insane.

Either way, this whole Rally For Sally business has been going around and disturbing the usual culprits from their dens and I feel I should say something.

“The American Canon“

This is a stupid sentence and yet thrown around as you like. There is no American canon, there is just “The Canon” and “Non-canon.” Believe it or not, the people who make the product get to decide what’s done with it and what is canon.

If you made something and then in France they made an entirely different story with concepts and themes you didn’t want to explore, you’d be hesitant about including or acknowledging it. Same with Sega of Japan.

But then why did Sega allow this to be made?

Well, I think this needs a tad bit of history behind it.

We’re going to the 90′s

Denim was in, the future was here, everything in 2000′s would be chrome and the Y2k bug was on the horizon.

Ohno

But Sega of Japan had an issue. Their arcade machines were selling like nobody’s business but they wanted that sweet console piece of the pie, but had no winning mascot. Alex Kidd, unfortunately, wasn’t moving as many consoles as they had hoped, god knows not enough to rival Mario.

They needed something cool, something different, somethi- It’s Sonic. You know it is, I know it is, I ain’t dragging this on.

It did well enough in Japan, but Sega was focusing on international markets with this game. It had a somewhat universal design, helped by the basis being Felix and Mickey Mouse which were popular around the world, with catchy songs based on both Japanese and American releases from the past.

It was going to be a hit.

Or... was it?

Did they need to do more?

Well, Sega doesn’t just have Sega of Japan. It had SOE and SOA as well. Europe and America respectively. Others too I’m sure but my memory’s off.

SoA and SoJ had a somewhat shaky relationship with each other, but then again, so did other companies back then. It was a new foray into public relations. Japan built the consoles that actually sold, America had to sell them, but there was a big gap between the countries, how things were interpreted, different values, and let’s not forget, American pride and greed.

AMERICA in the 90′s

SOJ needed this thing to sell big. Sonic was going to be a global success if they could help it. And let’s be honest, it was.

America had it’s own plans on what Sonic should be, and SOJ actually listened to some of them. Madeline Schroeder, product manager at the time for Sega in the US, actually went to Japan to say what she thought Sonic would be. As of this, they removed Madonna and Sonic’s tie-in with a band, as well as changing certain design traits in the US because “Sonic looked too Japanese.“

And then had the gall to call herself the “Mother Of Sonic”

Again, in a world where shitting on other people’s culture is a big no-no, and for good reason, how that managed to be fine is insane.

It’s a Japanese fucking product, Madeline.

Alongside this, as SOA hadn’t had much access to the Japanese backstories (although, the manuals should have been fine enough), when it came to marketing the games as an ongoing story (and ready in time for the cartoons they wanted to push) SOA made their own Sonic Bible, for use outside of non-Japanese territories.

This would have the seeds of what most people know, Freedom Fighters, Eggman once being good, Sonic being part of the good fight, etc.

[Astoundingly, when they made the cartoons and everything, Fleetway would be the one to actually stick closer to this than Archie/Satam/Underground/Aosth ever did so who’s talking about canon now huh]

Japan didn’t really notice nor take heed. One could make a good case for their complete obliviousness to what SOA was doing. You can tell because absolutely nothing from the bible/comics/magazine ever appeared in a Japanese Sonic game. Spinball was Sega Technical Institute, an American Division. Not Sega of Japan.

On top of this, as I see a bunch of people who go “Sega is disrespecting the American canon”, interesting fact. In Europe and Japan, the manual for Sonic CD clearly states Amy Rose is in the game. Sega of America actually edited this to say Sally, despite not going through and changing the sprites. If that’s not disrespect towards the creators of the games I don’t know what is.

The Canon

The problem I find with this is that, let’s be honest, if we had to look at this from an objective viewpoint:

Japan released a game.

America sought to profit off it, but didn’t like it was very much Japanese, not American.

They changed the story to be more American themed, changed the art design to look more American drawn, and ignored the Japanese additions to the games by editing out the Japanese characters in the manuals.

Because they wanted to profit off a different culture’s work by changing it wholesale so it didn’t resemble the culture it came from.

Nothing about SatAm’s premise or creation says anything about the original material it came from, just heavily adapted without any input from it’s creators to resemble a more American product.

You know how Japan saw Sonic?

This cute lad who acted more like a cartoon Felix the Cat type figure.

Now I get it, especially in the 90′s, everyone was localising. The markets weren’t as much the same, god knows they gave Ratchet attack eyebrows to be appealing etc.

But this was so anti-Japanese that the fact they were profiting at all from a Japanese product is insane.

Adventure

Back in Japan in the 90′s, they didn’t really have much of an idea what they were doing with the canon. They had plans but they seemed to be not as stable as they would have liked. The amount of games they were pumping out with different Eggman attacks and characters and if the GG games fit in with the MD games-

They needed something a bit more stable.

So when it was their time for their biggest game yet, they started to reign things in. In Japan. In Europe.

In America.

Sonic Adventure would be the basis for the stories for the next decade or so, with some revisions on what came before, what was mainline, what have you.

At this point, SOA’s cartoons had all died and the only thing remaining in the Sonic canon from that time was the Archie comic, still ongoing. But yet America still pulled this stuff off.

In the original script, Eggman is still Eggman. None of this “I AM DOCTOR ROBOTNIK, GENIUS OF THE WORLD” schtick.

No changing the manuals this time at least, so they’re getting better.

Over time, the only surviving things to come out of the canon, which Sega was nice enough to do considering, was

- Chilli-dogs - I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG - Robotnik being Maria’s surname

Didn’t you have something to say about the Freedom Fighters?

Why yes I do.

So, the Freedom Fighters for me, as much as I like them as , represent an American centrism. Not only was America not a Sega dominated market, for Nintendo did better and Europe was buying Sega consoles like candy, but the characters and show weren’t that popular outside the country anyway.

Ask someone in Europe in the 90′s who Sally Acorn was and unless they had access to a specific channel they wouldn’t have the first idea. Amy Rose, for sure, she was in the games.

I didn’t know who Sally was until Mega Collection Plus came out, and the UK STILL manages to get Sonic games in the top of the charts when they come out.

Aosth was shown more abroad with more appeal, the comics weren’t sold internationally, let alone in Japan.

To be all “But these characters cemented the Western fanbase” is mental.

The comics sold somewhere in the tens of thousands in their hey-day. At the same time, Sonic games were selling millions. The comic and show are so old that unless you were part of the 20,000 buying the comics recently or pirated them, you don’t even know who they are.

Fleetway was the only Sonic comic we got in the UK, and there’s more fans that have grown up with Sonic Adventure being the basis which had absolutely no inspiration from the Western products.

These characters are relics of America taking the mick out of a Japanese product in order to make more money and produce shows.

To say they’ve made a big impact on Sonic in the world is really stretching it.

F.A.Q

But you said you liked the FF’s!

I do, but in the same way I like AU’s. It was interesting, of it’s time and it said a lot about the culture it was made in. Like, comparable to Tails gets Trolled or Fleetway

B-but I really like the FF’s!

Good for you, don’t let me stop you. Again, I like a bunch of the stories.

Are you a Japanese purist?

Fleetway is cool and I liked the Boom show, and I liked Robotnik better than Eggman as a name.

I heard that some Japanese fans actually liked the FF’s though...

And more power to them. Again, Red Dwarf USA does a lot to shit on what made the UK version so good but I respect what it tried to do. Again, even I like the FF’s to an extent.

Why did you write this all out?

Seeing all this Rally for Sally has brought out all the insane people who shout at SOJ for being gits for not respecting the American canon despite the American canon being born from a disrespect to the Japanese creators.

What about IDW?

Ironically I actually liked Reboot more but also I was younger when I read them.

What do you think of Tangle and Whisper getting in?

I need to read more of IDW but they’re good enough. As for getting in the games, these designs were vetted and passed through SOJ first and the comic is overseen by them. On top of this, T+W don’t come from a place of SOA taking the mick.

But Sega has used these characters before and ESTABLISHED this as canon why are they changing it now-

I see this a lot, usually with certain people. Dobson’s a good example of why this is stupid. When the Japanese revert changes made to characters like Mario/Zelda/Samus by the West, they didn’t radically change their personalities, they just reset them to what Japan intended.

Japan never intended for the FF’s, the three heavily contrasting cartoons and Knuckles is Jesus Christ Superstar.

They just reverted him back to the sole guy on Angel Island.

Do you think Sally should get in to Sonic Dash?

No more than I think Tekno or Sonia does. They’re old, irrelevant, gone. If they do get brought in for a cameo I’d be happy enough, I like dumb nods to non-canon things.

However, there are crazy people out there and you give them an inch and they’ll take a mile. Best to leave it.

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that-shamrock-vibe · 4 years

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TV Review: Crisis on Infinite Earths (Spoilers)

Part One: Supergirl

Spoiler Warning: I am posting this review the day after the episode airs in the U.S. so if you have not yet seen the first part of the crossover or are waiting for the entire crossover to become available then don’t read on until you have.

Overview:

We have SO MUCH to discuss! So much so that my Easter-Egg section which is usually more or less a minor tag-on at the end of these reviews is possibly going to be the same size as a lot of these other sections we are going through because, as promised by Marc Guggenheim, Easter has come early and we were treated to quite a few very tasty Easter-Eggs, one of which had me cheering at the screen.

But with Part One of this 5-episode crossover already giving us so much action, drama and emotion, it’s not only a question on how the Multiverse survives, but how the rest of the crossover does as well.

In the Beginning:

I love a good theory of evolution story, and we have heard in Arrow over the past season that The Monitor has been around for eons so it stands to reason he was around at the start of creation itself.

I just the sentiment of “In the beginning there was one singularity that soon spawned a multiverse”. It’s a lot like Doctor Who’s first rock theory from “The Runaway Bride”. I don’t know enough about the beginning of all life to actually determine what created the universe, I am more inclined to believe evolution than creationism, but I do like this idea of one reality spawning many.

I wasn’t so crazy about the visuals of this, especially considering in the past whenever we have viewed the Multiverse it’s always been within the Speed Force so we’re used to that blue energy rather than this red darker energy but it seems to be in-keeping with the theme of the crossover so I’m going with it.

Also LaMonica Garrett, who deserves some sort of award recognition not only for appearing as a series regular in both Arrow and The Flash this season but also wearing what I’m sure is the heaviest outfit created, but selling it very well, even the cheesy prophet of doom voice he has down rather well.

Multiverse Annihilation:

Alright so this was obviously to be expected that we would see some if not a lot of Earths be destroyed during this crossover, but my god they don’t pull punches in starting by letting you know “Yeah we’re killing off a lot”.

Now the Earths we see erased during the opening of this episode are Earth-9, Earth-66, Earth-89 and Earth-X. Of those four, we have only ever seen Earth-X which was the Nazi-ruled Earth from two crossovers ago.

Now while there was a great and uncredited cameo here from it and we’ll discuss that further down, would anyone really be sad if a reality where the Nazis won and ruled was wiped out? I know there are inhabitants on that world and for the most part they are innocent and good people, but you would think just maybe find a way to evacuate them like they do on Earth-38 later and then if it goes extinct then fine because it’s not exactly a good reality.

Both Earth-66 and Earth-89 also has great Easter-Eggs just in the name and we’ll discuss that also further down but it is interesting that both Earths-66 and 89 only focused on Gotham City whereas this was the Supergirl episode of the crossover.

Rallying the Team:

Okay so Harbinger, who either was Lyla Michaels but is now an emissary of the Anti-Monitor or simply likes using her Task Force X codename, appears to all the major heroes just as we saw her do in last week’s episode of Arrow and summons them all to Earth-38 aka Supergirl’s Earth.

I have to say as well, I know they’re on a TV budget and can’t really afford to have as many characters in one scene as say Avengers: Endgame did, but the fact they cheapened out and only gave us two Legends (Sara and Ray), rather then also showing Nate, Constantine, Mick and Charlie as well does seem a tad unfair especially considering they’ve been absent from screens the longest, some may say for the better considering the way their show is going.

Also, I will probably talk about this more with the Batwoman episode tomorrow, but they need to clarify the timeline of her show. When we first met her in Elseworlds last year she was Batwoman, but the start of her season saw her become Batwoman, and now she’s still hunting for Alice? How long has it been?

Also, as expected, Tyler Hoechlin’s Superman and his Lois Lane join the party after Argo City is destroyed and they send of their newborn son in a pod to safety. Argo City’s destruction also sees the death of Kara’s mother Alura played by Erica Durance but because I know who’s coming in tonight’s episode and the possibly jokes they’ll make about it I am okay with that as a Smallville fan.

I do always like it in these crossovers when the heroes either first meet or reunite, this time Oliver’s daughter but from the future Mia Smoak and Batwoman are officially introduced as Batwoman reveals herself as Kate Kane, to Oliver’s bemusement.

I do wish also that there was more time spent on character interaction because that is usually what I enjoy most about these crossovers, we had a little bit of that with Brainy and Ray, but Elseworlds I felt established a great repour for Batwoman and the Trinity yet that wasn’t really seen here.

My biggest complaint in this Supergirl episode though is that both Brainy and J’onn were never seen in their natural forms. I know it’s costly and timely to have them look like Brainiac 5 and the Martian Manhunter, but when they just look like Jesse Rath and David Harewood, no matter how great these guys are it’s a comic book crossover event and I would love to see more comic-booky character looks.

Alright so, Harbinger sits down the newly formed or reformed or updated team because they’ve come together now four times to help save a world or multiple worlds or now reality itself and just need to be called the Justice League and get it over with, but anyway I digress.

She instructs the team that the tower that randomly appears was one of many placed by the Monitor on Earths he thought were at risk...why he didn’t just place them on every god damn Earth if he could see the future is beyond me but that’s what we’re getting.

I did like a couple of interactions before going into action where Oliver seamlessly interacted with Barry, Sara and Mia without making it seem forced.

My favourite was the interaction with daughter Mia when he effectively passes on the mantle of Green Arrow to her despite the fact she’s not ready to lose him. I don’t know whether or not the spin-off series focusing on Mia as New Green Arrow has been confirmed yet but we know she will become Green Arrow in the near future.

So Oliver, Mia, Ray and Kate go off and battle the Shadow Demon army that are swarming the tower trying to destroy it for the Anti-Monitor, while Barry, Kara and Clark are off trying to save the people.

I will admit Ray didn’t annoy me quite as much as he has done in recent seasons of Legends during this episode. I did love his interactions with Kate about her suit getting an upgrade and then her asking him to upgrade her batarangs, when Brandon Routh is good he is good and he is pulling double duty in this crossover so let’s hope he’s very good.

Also at this time Lois, because she needs something to do, has gone to Earth-16 with Brainy and Sara to retrieve baby Jonathan who wound up going through a wormhole and ending up on a parallel world...in the future...2046 to be exact.

This was, I feel, there for two reasons. 1) Another Easter-Egg appearance but this time in-house as it references Legends Season 1, but also 2) To still keep the events of “Star City 2046) canon despite the fact that in that episode Connor Hawke was actually John Diggle Jr. and in present day they are not only two separate people but also adoptive brothers...and also we know Oliver is supposed to die so how is he alive in 2046? Well it’s an alternate reality version who apparently can’t remember meeting Earth-1 Sara before.

Our two other teams rallying really only serve to give the rest of the Supergirl cast something to do as Alex enlists Lena to help either build or activate portals to get the inhabitants of Earth-38 to safety while Dreamer and Kelly help get those inhabitants onto ships including the Legion Cruiser that J’onn is piloting because apparently Brainy was given it by the Legion before they left with Winn despite the fact they left in the Legion Cruiser. It doesn’t really make sense but I enjoy seeing that ship again so I am letting it slide.

Saving the Multiverse, Take 1:

This may be quite cynical for me to say but this is what the remainder of the episode was, the first attempt at saving the multiverse because Earth-38 is where The Monitor wanted the heroes to make their stand against the Anti-Monitor.

The Anti-Monitor does not appear in this episode and his army of Shadow Demons are 1) Poorly rendered compared to the likes of the Time Wraiths and 2) Quite easy to defeat when you consider Darkseid has Parademons and even Thanos with his legion of horribles.

In any case while the Supers are trying to fix the tower to make the sky not red which works margingly well before they exhaust themselves, the other heroes are on the ground battling the Shadow Demons. I would have maybe liked if Ray had to cover the Supers while they were doing what they do because it seemed slightly daft that the Shadow Demons wouldn’t try and stop them but that’s what we got.

It was a very small-scale battle and I know we’re only in part 1 and usually it’s the final episode we get the big battle but this was still small scale considering what is at stake here.

The biggest surprise of the battle was Kelly Olsen, who I haven’t really liked all season as she seems pointless other than just being Alex’s girlfriend who always needs saving, apparently has the Guardian armour left to her by James who retired from vigilantism to take over a newspaper in his old hometown and that’s why he left despite never actually being part of these crossovers, his dopplegangers were.

This was also a very low-powered battle. Think about it, the Supers, Flash and Atom all have CGI powers or tech yet we didn’t really see much of it, aside from the Supers trying to fix the tower. Maybe they’re saving the budget for later episodes but it better pay off.

The Monitor comes in as the prophet of doom to basically tell them that they’ve lost this battle but the war still rages, so transports everyone aside from Oliver to Earth-1 Star City.

Oliver refuses to leave and makes one of the most poignent comments I have ever heard him say when The Monitor says “It’s time” and Oliver asks “Has everyone been evacuated” The Monitor responds with “No” so Oliver responds “Then it’s not yet time”. From the trailer I thought this to mean it was time for his death, but actually this was something The Monitor was trying to prevent as he did not see him dying this way, but he does.

Stephen Amell delivers both this line and scene very well. I have never been the biggest Stephen Amell fan and do feel as if he goes to the corny side a little too much but here, given the interactions he had with Barry, Mia and Sara in the episode, and knowing that Arrow is ending and he is supposed to die, it was minorly emotional which is the most emotion he’s ever got out of me.

Fallen Arrow:

The Monitor returns a battered and bleeding Oliver to the Arrowcave in Star City Earth-1 where the rest of the heroes have returned to. Along with the news that they were somewhat successful at evacuating Earth-38 before it was destroyed, it seems that Oliver does actually die in this episode.

First of all, the fact that Supergirl is disheartened to know they didn’t save everyone is stupid because they only worked to evacuate one city compared to the entire planet. Secondly, we know that the episode of Arrow after this crossover will not include Stephen Amell...but to lose him on part one of the crossover does seem like a red herring.

Also I do not think he would die on any other show but his own and that part isn’t until January 14, so I don’t think this is the last of Oliver we’ve seen.

However, out of nowhere, Pariah appears. Pariah is Harrison “Nash” Wells who is the latest Harrison Wells to appear on The Flash and was the main focus of the Crisis teaser at the end of every Arrowverse show over the last two weeks.

I have to say 1) His suit makes him look like Doctor Doom and 2) I haven’t had the time to be as invested with this Wells as I was with Harry Wells or H.R. Wells or even Sherloque Wells to supposedly feel bad for him that he has become Pariah as his penance for freeing the Anti-Monitor.

He is however another harbinger which sounds stupid to say as there is a character literally called Harbinger but not only is Lyla one but so is the Monitor and now Pariah. I’ll be curious to see where this leaves him after the crossover because, unlike almost every crossover before, this is the one that promises ramifications across the multiverse.

Easter-Eggs:

Alright here we go, as I said in the opening Multiverse Annihilation alone, there were multiple Easter-Eggs that not only connect the Arrowverse to various other DC properties but also just have some very cool cameos.

I do have mixed feelings on what they’re doing, as it does look like they are actually trying to combine every DC TV property and possibly movie into the same multiverse which is crazy but it could possibly work.

Titans:

This is the one I cheered at my screen for in a similar way to when they played the Smallville theme while showing their version of the Kent Farm in Elseworlds last year.

As mentioned before, one of the Earths wiped out by Antimatter is Earth-9. On this Earth we focus on San Francisco and two costumed heroes as Antimatter obliterates everything, Hawk and Jason Todd’s Robin. These characters are portrayed by Alan Ritchson and Curran Walters who are the actors portraying these characters in these suits in Titans over on DC Universe.

It was rumoured some time back that Titans would appear in this crossover but never confirmed, I know because for my job I’ve reported on everything to do with Crisis.

Now clearly there’s nothing to say these are the same characters from Titans, particularly as the end of Titans Season 2 saw Jason Todd leave the Titans and we don’t see Nightwing, Dove, Starfire, Raven or Gar, but considering Black Lightning is joining the Multiverse it stands to reason that Titans can as well.

This does also mean that Titans is now on Earth-9, while Arrow, The Flash, Batwoman and Legends are primarily on Earth-1 and Supergirl is on Earth-38.

Batman ‘66

Speaking of other Earths, we have two others that are wiped out in the opening and both focus on Gotham City, why? Well we have Earth-66 which features an elderly gentleman in red walking his dog and seeing the red skies exclaims “Holy Crimson Skies of Death!”.

This gentleman is portrayed by Robin veteran Burt Ward and the character is confirmed to be Dick Grayson of the Batman 1960s series.

This is wrapped up very nicely and honoured in the fact that the Earth is numbered 66 to pay homage to the fact that 1966 is the year the Batman series begun.

Batman ‘89

Similarly, the other Earth we see obliterated is Earth-89. Here we see another Gotham City with a man reading an edition of the Gotham City Gazette that shows a distorted image of Batman with the headline “Batman Captures Joker”.

The man reading the paper is revealed to be Alexander Knox portrayed by Robert Wuhl, reprising his role from the 1989 Batman movie starring Michael Keaton as the Dark Knight and Jack Nicholson as The Joker.

It has also been rumoured before that Michael Keaton would reprise his role as Batman in this crossover, while I still choose to debunk these rumours, it’s official that the 1989 Batman is now canon within the Arrowverse. This takes the Arrowverse from simply being the DC TV Universe to an actual Multiverse spanning TV and Film, something the MCU hasn’t properly managed to do yet.

Star City 2046:

So as mentioned before, DC’s Legends of Tomorrow’s first season had an episode titled “Star City 2046″ where the Legends arrived in a dystopian Star City where Deathstroke’s son Grant Wilson was the new Deathstroke and Connor Hawke was the new Green Arrow and revealed as John Diggle Jr, Diggle’s son which at the time was crazy because Diggle had a daughter Sara before Barry created Flashpoint and replaced Sara with John Diggle Jr...keeping up?

So in the future of this Post-Flashpoint timeline that this universe is now in, we see that Connor Hawke and John Diggle Jr. are two separate people with Connor being the biological son of Ben Turner aka Bronze Tiger and John Diggle Jr now being the leader of the Deathstroke Gang.

This of course caused conflict with that episode of Legends, but because Legends never really follows the rules anyway I think everyone simply let it slide but now we have a loophole way of explaining things.

It turns out that when the Legends travelled to Star City in the year 2046, they also travelled to a parallel Earth, Earth-16. Now this is still in the future so I don’t think they’re saying it’s set, but what they are saying is it still happened and they didn’t overwrite their own lore basically.

We do only see Oliver here, who still has a cybernetic arm from before which Sara remembers and uses to her advantage, but Oliver doesn’t seem to remember that this Sara is not his Sara despite them having a rather candid conversation in that episode.

Also Joseph David-Jones portrayed Connor Hawke of that Earth in “Star City 2046″ so of course it makes sense for him to return as the Connor Hawke of Earth-1 in the future, but why didn’t he appear in this episode if he is already part of the cast of Arrow this season?

The Ray:

Briefest of cameos and unfairly uncredited in my opinion but we see a brief glimpse of Ray Terrill aka The Ray portrayed by Russell Tovey flying through the skies of Earth-X before being obliterated. Tovey first portrayed The Ray in “Crisis on Earth-X” two years ago and was part of the first openly gay male relationship in comic-book history with Wentworth Miller’s Leo Snart.

He then went on to voice the character in his own short-lived animated web series Freedom Fighters, but to see him return in live-action even for a brief uncredited cameo shows how much Tovey respects both the character and this universe and I love him even more for that.

Jonathan Kent:

Alright so I’ve mentioned baby Jonathan a couple of times because we knew Lois was pregnant at the end of Elseworlds last years however now seeing Jonathan Kent Jr. I am excited for what this could mean going forward.

In the comics, Jonathan is the son of Superman and Lois Lane given the full name Jonathan Samuel Kent to honour both his grandfathers and is a Kryptonian-Human hybrid who becomes the new Superboy and teams up with Damian Wayne, the Teen Titans and the Legion of Superheroes.

So when Brainy mentioned him going through a wormhole and time-travelling I thought they may be setting up that he’ll be taken in by the Legion, Mon-El may return with a grown-up version of him later in the season or something, but no he’s safe and Lois has him back.

The one thing I will say about him is I hope the writers don’t relegate Tyler Hoechlin’s already minimal Super-Antics into simply being Super-Dad. The odd dad line is funny but I hope that’s not all he is.

I am going to wait until Part 5 to rank the entire crossover but if they keep the momentum that Part 1 managed to accelerate then this could be the greatest TV accomplishment ever and could even rival Avengers: Endgame in how they literally bring worlds together.

So that’s my review of Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part One, what did you guys think? Post your comments and check out more DC TV Reviews as well as other TV Reviews and posts.

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Run to Paradise {Nikki Sixx} Part 16

16. i won’t smile but i’ll show you my teeth

Chapter Summary: doc and lola don’t get along, but he’s an authority figure so it’s not exactly a surprise. lola gets more responsibility, and things progress relationship-wise after a groupie’s comment sparks some jealousy, and not in the way you’d expect.

Warnings: drinking, drug use, some jealousy, sort of nsfw?? maybe?? also bi!poly!lola is canon biphobes die mad about it.

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It comes as a surprise to everyone later during the week when Doc shows up at the recording studio asking for Lola. She, at the time, is about as high as the rest of them, laying on the floor and trying to balance a beer bottle on her forehead. She's wearing a bra covered in metal spikes and a pair of black, cut off shorts, and her jacket and shoes had been dumped in a pile by the end of the sofa in the corner. If the sofa had been free from Mick, napping like a vampire in the middle of the day, she'd have been on it; the floor's a grimy mess, and Vince is throwing things, trying to knock the bottle from her forehead where he's in a swivel chair by the sound desk. Tommy and Nikki were in the recording booth, not that much productive work was getting done.

Doc takes one step into the room and worries for the barest moment that he's made a mistake. Opening his mouth, he can't even form words, not quite sure where to start.

"Lola, do you have a shirt you could put on?" He asks, pinching the bridge of his nose. Lola hums for a moment, nose sniffing and twitching as she tried to focus on the bottle on her forehead.

"No I do not," she replied after a beat, "'s not today's look." And she says it with such conviction, that Doc almost isn't exasperated. Almost.

"Well can you get up off the floor? There's a meeting I'd like you to be at in fifteen minutes."

Lola actually laughs, snorts, and the bottle slides off her forehead as she props herself up on her elbows. Vince throws a button at her and it hits the back of her head, but she doesn't turn, just hears him snicker.

"Yeah, fuckin' alright, tell us another one," she smirks, amusement written all over her face. The newfound manager sighs deeply.

"It's not a joke, it's about figuring out the band's needs for the foreseeable future-"

"Booze, blow, and babes." Vince announces from where he's spinning idly. Doc frowns at him for a moment and the blonde takes the time to lean over the beleaguered sound-tech to clue the two in the recording studio as to what was happening. Doc, though for the life of him he's not sure why, waits for their response. Lola is still on the floor. Tommy nods adamantly in agreement with Vince. Nikki insists that it's the most conductive thing for their creative process. They're all high as hell and it's not even midday.

"Lola, get up." Doc orders her. Lola bites back on the venomous retort that bubbles to her lips, reminds herself how having a manager like Doc meant to Nikki and the rest of the band, and forces herself to smile. There's a noticeable tick in her jaw as she slowly gets to her feet, but the band notices her argument-free compliance. If any of them had spoken to her like that, she's have knocked them on their ass.

"Do you have anything more professional? A jacket?" It's less of an order, and Doc seems relieved that she'd gotten up without a fight. Lola's hand twitches for a moment at his request. Her movements are so controlled, so deliberate it's almost painful, like she's barely holding back each impulse that passes through her.

She pulls her jacket on, and walks out, followed by Doc, who goes to thank her for agreeing so quickly, but her smile's fallen, any trace of it has vanished. Hands moving quickly, she's pulling her hair into a ponytail with the elastic around her wrist as they walk, and she cuts him off mid-sentence.

"Don't ever tell me what to do again." Voice flat, it's an order of her own rather than a warning. He contemplates this quietly, thoughtful rather than concerned.

"How about I ask you to do something once, maybe twice, and you do it, and you don't fight me on it? Because I know you think you're hot shit, but these aren't small-time bands you're working with for a night to pay the bills anymore." Doc rests a hand on her shoulder, stops them both in the middle of the hallway, and has her look at him, really look at him as he speaks. She looks like she's considering hitting him, but he's glad she's at least giving him a chance. "This is a band with a record deal; they're going to be touring, and you've gotta learn to deal with responsibility if you're going to stay on as their legitimate assistant," he gives her shoulder a pointed shove, "and not as their glorified groupie."

"I am shit hot," Lola says after a moment, but her expression is still fiery, "and you don't know fucking anything about me. If you tell me what to do," she says slowly, as if explaining to a child, "I'll deck you."

"I'll hit back, don't you worry." Doc says with a thin smile, "but it shouldn't come to that. I'll ask; simple as that." He paused, there was something in his gaze that Lola couldn't quite identify, "we both just want what's best for the band, right? So let's not argue; I'm trusting you as their main point of contact on a professional level, was that trust misplaced?" He asked, raising his eyebrows at her. Lola, meeting his gaze, squared her shoulders and straightened her posture.

"I don't like you." She said simply. Doc rolled his eyes.

"Grow up, no-one likes anyone in this industry."

But there was an understanding forged between them in that moment. Doc turned on his heel and continued down the hall, and Lola followed. Neither really liked the other - Doc kept his opinions about Lola and her goings-on with the band to himself - but there was a mutual respect. Sort of.

After that, Lola took to kicking Doc in the shin as a form of greeting, and he would cuff her on the back of the head in return. She refused to buy her own professional clothing for a solid month, but after showing up to a meeting regarding the technical requirements for the band's first stadium show wearing one of Tommy's mesh shirts, Doc drove her to a department store afterwards and refused to leave until she owned a button-down or some sort of nice sweater.

"I don't care if you show up in jeans, a skirt, hell, even those damn shorts that show your whole ass-" Doc stood with his arms crossed in front of the door to the department store, leveling a look at Lola who was actually sulking.

"You're not my dad and you can't force me to wear a monkey suit!" Lola was unashamed making a spectacle of herself outside of Macy's. She's still wearing the mesh shirt, and her hair is sprayed up to high heavens; all the nice, civil, normal people going past try and fail to hide their gawking.

"Is this really the hill you're gonna die on? Not owning a nice shirt? You know you sound like a dumbass, right?" Doc tells her seriously, but she doesn't seem to want to listen.

"It's a matter of principle." Lola crossed her own arms, stamping her foot. "I haven't worn a fancy-asshole-long-sleeved shirt since my mom's trial," she paused, voice going strangely vulnerable she adds, "they always feel like they're choking me."

It's in this moment that Doc is painfully aware of how she was right in that he didn't actually know anything about her, and he relents, sighing deeply.

"Just buy a sweater; doesn't have to have buttons, doesn't have to be high-necked, just- a sweater. To wear under your leather jackets." He asks, voice far gentler than usual. Lola's jaw clenches, her gaze flicks to name of the store signposted above the doors they were currently blocking.

"I can't."

"Why not?"

"Because they threatened to call the cops on me if I stepped foot in there again." Lola admits, and Doc resists the urge to tears the remainder of his hair out in frustration. He drives Lola back to the studio empty-handed, and the moment she steps into the studio she drapes herself over Tommy and Nikki who have taken up the sofa, both drinking and looking at one of Nikki's falling-apart notebooks.

"Didn't Doc take you to get like, better clothes or some shit?" Tommy asked, pinching at the mesh shirt by her ribs, Lola squirmed, but didn't make a move to get up. She's got her legs thrown over the edge of the little sofa, and is laying uncomfortably with her head in Tommy's lap and most of her back over Nikki's thighs, her ass coming to rest in the dip of the sofa between him and the arm of it.

"My clothes are great-" Lola started, but was quickly cut off by another pinch, and Nikki scoffing, "yeah, alright, our clothes are great," she rolls her eyes, "but like, fucker wanted me in some long sleeved, corporate asshole shirt, and I'd rather die," she scoffs, "but everyone gets all fuckin' teary and forgiving the moment you mention you had a shit mom; like maybe I just don't want to take fashion advice from a dickhead who wore a polo-shirt to a house party- don't make me justify it with a sob story, like fuck." She spat, the anger in her words at odds with the way she'd begun to shuffle around, trying to get more comfortable. Nikki gives a hum of solidarity, petting her stomach gently.

"I feel like I don't know anything about your family," Tommy mused, playing with a few of her ear piercings with her head resting in his lap.

"Yeah, no shit," is all Lola offers. It's a very strange silence that sits in the studio after that.

"Where's Doc now?" Mick finally piped up from where he'd been idly strumming by the sound desk. Lola groaned.

"I think he's buying me a sweater."

The mental image of Doc shopping for Lola in an actual department store was enough to have them all laughing; even Mick cracked a smile. Nikki shoved at her, smirking.

"Come on, we've got songs to write and you sound like you could use a top up," that was enough encouragement for Lola to get up, following like an eager puppy as Nikki made his way to a backpack by the door, pulling a bag of coke from it. Like most of their recording sessions, it's a blur, all that's different is that today Lola seemed to have missed the groupies that Zutaut had diligently brought in, like he seemed to do every other day at the band's request.

Lola had to admit, the record contract came with a lot of perks.

Though much to Lola's amusement, the only moment it turns on her is the two days Vince spent sulking - though he'd hit anyone who accused him of it - after a groupie made a comment about how Lola gives better head than him. It hit a nerve, surprised them all when he'd gotten pissy and locked himself in his and Tommy's room. The groupie hadn't meant it maliciously, obviously, it was just a passing comment, but it hit harder than any of the others had realised.

"Vince- Nikki stop laughing - come on, all of Tommy's shit's in there; Vince-" Lola's leaning against the door, and manages to catch herself as the door swings open. Vince doesn't even look at her, his gaze hovering over her shoulder, looking where Nikki is quietly snickering into his beer.

"Do you..." Vince frowned, looking back at Lola. She's actually wearing the sweater Doc bought; it's black cashmere with a v-neck, more expensive than any piece of clothing she's ever acquired legally, and big enough that the sleeves almost swallow her hands. Doc didn't seem to like that he'd overestimated her size, but to his surprise, Lola liked it enough that she refused to give it back. It makes her look soft, surprisingly.

"Do I what?"

Frown deepening, Vince huffs a sigh, shaking his head and trying to retreat into his bedroom again, but Lola stops the door before it can close.

"No, stop sulking, do I what?"

"Do you have a favourite?" He asks bluntly, stepping away from the door, moving to pick up his pack of smokes from the bedside table. Lola, confused and a little obtuse, steps in after him, asking him what he means. "Don't be an idiot-"

"Don't call me an idiot-" she snapped back, but then it clicked; suddenly, almost painfully. Her voice goes uncharacteristically quiet. "No."

The afternoon is quiet, but they're talking quiet enough that Nikki can't catch what they're saying. Vince opens the window after lighting his cigarette, he hums, clearly unconvinced. With a deep sigh, Lola makes her way over to him, wrapping her arms around him and pressing her forehead to his shoulder blade.

"You've been with Nikki the longest," Vince isn't sure how she'll respond, but Lola just sighs deeply, holding him a little tighter.

"And he's very different from you; it's apples to oranges." She paused, lips against his shoulder as she murmurs, "weren't you the one who said that not being jealous would help you live longer?"

"I'm not jealous, I'm just..." he can't quite put it into words, and he groans, frustrated for a moment at his sudden vulnerability. Not quite silence fills the room; the gentle sizzle of the cigarette, Nikki's quiet chatter from the other room, Vince groaning out a lung full of smoke as Lola's hands find their way beneath his shirt, playing with the waistband of his obscenely tight pants.

"I'd be a pretty shitty girlfriend if I played favourites."

Oh.

"Girlfriend?" His tone is unreadable.

"'s not going to stop any of us fucking anyone we want," she laughs a little, and Vince nods a little, "but it-" laughing a little self conscious, she was glad for a moment that he couldn't see the slight blush she couldn't stop from creeping up her cheeks, "it's easier to explain, sounds better than just telling people we're fucking, you know?" It's deflection, a cop out where she can't bring herself to voice the things that made her heart flutter. They don't do much talking after that, but they both seem to understand the things she leaves unsaid.

She brings the conversation up later that night around terribly greasy food, getting ready to head down the Strip to see who's playing.

"How many titles is that now? Assistant, roadie, security, groupie, girlfriend," Nikki's smirking, but there's something genuinely fond in his gaze as he speaks, "you know we're only paying you one salary right; you don't get a raise for -"

"For sucking your dicks? If I got paid for that I could retire on the spot." Lola tells him frankly, and Nikki laughs, but doesn't say anything else on the subject. Tommy just grins, asks if this means anything changes between them; Lola, wearing a smirk, shrugs and rolls her eyes, and just tells him 'not really', and that's said about it.

Nothing changes. Nothing really feels different. Nothing apart from Lola, it seems, who wears a pleased little smile for the rest of the night, even as Tommy jumps on her back and insists she carry him to the next club. And if they stick closer to her than usual, Vince with his arm around her waist at the bar, and Tommy leaning on her at any given moment, wrapping an arm around her and pulling her into a side hug, or Nikki with his hand on her thigh when they're both sitting at the bar, the two of them leaning into each other just a little. They all share little moments, though Vince picks up at the second bar they go to, and Tommy's fucked off somewhere before they made it to the Starwood, but Nikki doesn't seem inclined to leave Lola's side once it's just the two of them.

"We've been doing the same shit for years; what changed?" He asks when it's well after midnight and they're sitting on the curb of a parking lot, contemplating heading home, or to the next venue.

"You-" Lola snorts out a laugh, though it's not her answer. Her world's; it feels like she's moving through honey. She leans against him, "dude you don't want me to answer that." Her head rests on his shoulder, and his hand finds her knee. "If you get freaked out and bail," but she continues anyway, and Nikki goes very still, "I won't be left like, by myself and shit, all high and dry." She finishes with a hum, before catching her pun and laughing hard enough that she falls back onto the sidewalk.

"I told you I wouldn't bail on you."

"You bailed on Nadine," Lola's laugh is disappearing quickly, and Nikki frowns, "you remember her, I sort of do. I never got to say goodbye. She was good. She was a good one." Lola sighs, and she looks at Nikki for a long moment, contemplative from her spot laying back on the sidewalk. She wants to reach out, part of her wants to hold his hand, hold him close, be sappy, but even in this state she knows it's not the right moment. She's barely conscious of the words that spill from her next, fears far too realised, far too honest, "dude, we spent the past few years ruining each others' relationships, I just know karma's gotta hit if we ever actually had the balls to try something like this."

"You still think that?" Nikki asked, looking back at her. Lola licks her lips for a moment, can't help but smile in her current state, and her eyes drift towards the stars.

"'course, any minute now a meteor's gonna wipe us out." Her smile split into a grin as she turned back to him and saw him rolling his eyes and laughing quietly.

"Seems like a good way to go." He offers his hand to her, and pulls her to him, wrapping his arm around her shoulders and using his free hand to lift her chin, her lips meeting his. He kisses her messily, all tongue and teeth and fuck the world intention, and Lola bites at his lip, her hand in his hair, nails dragging against his scalp. When they break apart, his lips are stained plum with her lipstick and he looks a little smug.

"The world didn't end."

Lola grins sharply, standing suddenly and offering her hand to Nikki. He stands, steps into her space when she pulls him close, and wraps his arms around her.

"Yet," she corrected with an amused smile, "so we should make use of what time we've got left."

#nikki sixx #nikki sixx imagine #nikki sixx x oc #Vince Neil #vince neil imagine #Tommy Lee #tommy lee imagine #The Dirt #the dirt imagine #Motley Crue #motley crue imagine #platinum fic #the angry lizard writes

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ask-bait · 6 years

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FULL FALL OUT BOY ASKS ✌️

EVENING OUT WITH YOUR GIRLFRIEND

honourable mention: what would you title a movie of your life?

calm before the storm: do you like pete’s screaming?

switchblades and infidelity: what’s the relationship with your ex like?

pretty in punk: punk, emo, scene or goth?

growing up: do you like fall out boy’s really old stuff?

the world’s not waiting (for four tired boys in a broken down van): what’s the longest journey you’ve been on?

short, fast, and loud: if you had to spend the rest of your life with only three other people, who would they be? why?

moving pictures: what’s your favourite art form?

parker lewis can’t lose (but i’m going to give it my best shot): what’s your political standpoint?

TAKE THIS TO YOUR GRAVE

tell that mick he just made my list of things to do today: breakup songs or anthems?

dead on arrival: which of andy’s haircuts is your favourite?

grand theft autumn/where is your boy: which was the first fall out boy song you heard and liked?

saturday: best concert you’ve attended?

homesick at space camp: what do you blast when you’re angry?

sending postcards from a plane crash (wish you were here): when was the last time you received a letter in the mail?

chicago is so two years ago: where’s ‘home’?

the pros and cons of breathing: do you own any fall out boy albums on cd or vinyl?

grenade jumper: trohmania or bass spin?

calm before the storm: if you could go back in time to see any show, who would you see and when would you see them?

reinventing the wheel to run myself over: how old will you be come next summer?

the patron saints of liars and fakes: last big regret?

FROM UNDER THE CORK TREE

our lawyer made us change the name of this song so we wouldn’t get sued: worst fob rumour you’ve heard?

of all the gin joints in the world: drink of choice?

dance, dance: which member of fall out boy has the best style?

sugar, we’re goin down: would you rather have antlers or deer legs?

nobody puts baby in the corner: favourite 80s film?

i’ve got a dark alley and a bad idea that says you should shut your mouth (summer song): favourite season?

seven minutes in heaven (ataman halen): do you like panic! at the disco?

sophomore slump or comeback of the year: do you like the academy is…?

champagne for my real friends, real pain for my sham friends: how did you meet your best friend?

i slept with someone in fall out boy and all i got was this stupid song written about me: have you read gray? do you like pete’s writing style?

a little less sixteen candles, a little more “touch me”: favourite fall out boy mv?

get busy living or get busy dying (do your part to save the scene and stop going to shows): how many concerts have you been to in the past year?

xo: crush?

snitchers and talkers get stitches and walkers: long song titles or short?

the music or the misery: favourite fall out boy bonus track?

my heart is the worst kind of weapon: when was the last time you said something you regretted?

INFINITY ON HIGH

thriller: opinion on rap?

“the take over, the breaks over”: favourite breed of dog?

this ain’t a scene, it’s an arms race: patrick in cardigans or patrick in sweaters?

i’m like a lawyer with the way i’m always trying to get you off (me & you): have you had your first kiss yet?

hum hallelujah: religious?

golden: do you prefer fall out boy’s upbeat songs or the more emotional ones?

thnks fr th mmrs: best memory?

don’t you know who i think i am?: which high school stereotype would you describe yourself with?

the (after) life of the party: do you enjoy parties or staying at home more?

the carpal tunnel of love: enjoy rollercoasters?

bang the doldrums: what do you think about irl shippers?

fame: do you like black cards?

you’re crashing, but you’re no wave: what’s your opinion on ‘perfect disasters’?

i’ve got all this ringing in my ears and none on my fingers: would you consider yourself vengeful?

g.i.n.a.s.f.s.: do you believe your sexuality has enough good media representation?

it’s hard to say “i do”, when i don’t: have you ever lied to save an admirer’s feelings?

FOLIE À DEUX

lullabye: opinion on ‘elisa stans’?

disloyal order of water buffaloes: which is your favourite fall out boy lyric?

i don’t care: what’s your type?

she’s my winona: which celebrity do you look up to most?

america’s suitehearts: favourite suitehearts canon?

headfirst slide into cooperstown on a bad bet: describe your neighbourhood as if an author setting the scene.

the (shipped) gold standard: are you a math gay or an english gay?

(coffee’s for closers): what’s your biggest belief?

what a catch, donnie: favourite artist that features in a fob song?

27: favourite instrument?

tiffany blews: would you enjoy being famous?

w.a.m.s: which job would you prefer: waiter/actress/model/singer?

20 dollar nosebleed: do you enjoy any fall out boy bts videos?

west coast smoker: favourite 80s band?

pavlove: if you had the power to turn invisible, what would you use it for?

SAVE ROCK AND ROLL

the phoenix: did you discover fob before or after the hiatus?

my songs know what you did in the dark (light em up): favourite single?

alone together: if you were to spend your life with one other person, who would it most likely be? (not who you’d perhaps wish for it to be, just who it would end up being at this point)

where did the party go: bass lines or guitar solos?

just one yesterday: did you like the young blood chronicles?

the mighty fall: which was your favourite young blood chronicles video?

miss missing you: who was your favourite character from the young blood chronicles?

death valley: who would you most like to be greeted by in the afterlife?

young volcanoes: acoustics or a cappella?

rat a tat: thoughts on courtney love?

save rock and roll: thoughts on elton john?

AMERICAN BEAUTY/AMERICAN PSYCHO

irresistible: which music video was your favourite?

american beauty/american psycho: do you enjoy wearing makeup?

centuries: which century would you most like to live in?

the kids aren’t alright: if you could send a message to yourself five years ago, what would it say?

uma thurman: singing or dancing?

jet pack blues: which was your favourite fall out boy era?

novocaine: cause of your last time in hospital?

fourth of july: which holidays do you celebrate?

favourite record: do you collect vinyls or cds?

immortals: have you ever doubted being a fan of fall out boy?

twin skeleton’s (hotel in nyc): describe your exact opposite.

M A N I A

young and menace: are you excited for the future of fall out boy?

champion: what’s your proudest moment as a fan of them?

stay frosty royal milk tea: how do you feel about the new singles straying so much from their original sound?

hold me tight or don’t: how do you think their next album will sound?

the last of the real ones: do you consider fall out boy ‘sellouts’?

wilson (expensive mistakes): if you could purchase one thing being advertised in the wilson video, what would it be?

church: what do you associate with fall out boy?

heaven’s gate: give one way fall out boy have helped you.

sunshine riptide: if you could say one thing to the band, what would it be?

bishop’s knife trick: do you imagine you’ll ever grow out of listening to fob?

full band asks

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rorykillmore · 6 years

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fires off a few ideas bc I love everything you write and am always indecisive so! some best au thing that features, as a requirement, cat grant roasting sasuke. rkorya and arrowverse/legends in some capacity. a lionclan or tigerclan fic that's just like their atmosphere or dynamics as a whole? I just want to think about either of them Existing honestly

surprise this one’s with its original ask because i did the first draft of it... well, first, before i decided to post all these separately. rkorya/legends interaction is something i’ve wanted to write for awhile and there were a couple different approaches i considered, but the idea of a first meeting (disastrous as it might inevitably be) won out. i’m sure one or both of us will get an opportunity to expand on the individual relationships in the future, so...

storm, i always almost find myself at a loss when it comes time to talk about our friendship because... idk we’ve endured a lot together and it’s really important to me. you’re someone i feel i can turn to when shit gets really rough and i have trouble admitting my vulnerabilities and i just wouldn’t be the person i am today, and denny wouldn’t be the site that it is, without you. i know you’ve had to put up with a lot of pain and doubt this past year but i’m so so proud of you for pushing through and being back in school for as long as you have been and. well. hopefully you enjoy this fic bc sara and rkorya’s dynamic is one of the many things we’ve built together that i’m really proud of. merry christmas!!!

“But, guys – we’re skipping right over the best part of a generally sucky situation,” Ray chirps excitedly. “There’s a Star Wars universe. Like – an entire dimension where Star Wars is real.”

It’s just bad luck that it happens the way it does.

Could’ve been a lot worse, Sara reflects later – there could’ve been any number of people on board, Newt, Maive, Gardner, Ratchet. Instead, it’s just her and Rkorya in the midst of a sparring match when the rifts take the entire thing back home.

They both tense at the sensation – Sara has an immediate, sneaking suspicion of what might’ve happened, and she wonders if Rkorya might even be able to sense it. To put both of their doubts to rest, she asks at once, “Gideon?”

Uncharacteristically, there comes a pause before she answers. “Well, Captain Lance. It appears we’re home.”

Home. It hits Sara more strangely than she’s ever imagined, especially with Rkorya standing only meters away. Sara looks over to meet her gaze and finds a mirrored whirlwind of emotion there.

“As always, the rifts have a laughable idea of timing,” Rkorya says finally, tersely.

“Don’t panic,” Sara tells her levelly, although the more likely scenario is Rkorya taking it out on whoever’s unlucky enough to get in their way first (this is her dimension, after all, it’s only a matter of time). “– Technically, this is a good thing. We actually have dimension-jumping technology here.”

Rkorya’s eyes widen just slightly, but before she can respond, there’s a voice from somewhere outside in the bridge.

“Sara?”

Sara’s heart leaps in her chest, and she thinks the sudden surge of disbelief and warmth and familiarity she feels must be what keeps Rkorya from reacting too visibly. Jax. “Looks like my crew’s found us already,” she murmurs a not-entirely-necessary warning.

“I’ll brace myself,” Rkorya responds dryly, still tense (though Sara can’t really blame her, all of this hitting her at once), eyes on the door.

“In the Cargo Bay,” Sara calls, and it’s only another moment before some of them start to file in.

“What happened?” Jax asks as he appears, oblivious to the way Sara stares at him almost disbelievingly. “We thought you left us, for a minute there –”

He cuts off as he sees Rkorya, stunned.

“Who’s this?” Amaya is quicker to demand, coming up behind him with Ray in tow. Sara thinks she ought to be grateful that it’s just the three of them, for the moment, but she’s still sort of reeling from seeing them all again. Has it really been a whole year?

Ray doesn’t manage to be quite so diplomatic, peering around Jax excitedly. “Holy smokes, is that – is that an alien?”

“Greetings,” Rkorya replies dryly, now that she can finally get a word in – though she seems to be leaving the explanation to Sara.

“Slow down, guys,” she cuts in, composing herself. “This is going to take a little bit of explaining.”

“You think?” Jax sounds vaguely amused.

“Sara – she has a lightsaber.” Ray can’t contain himself, and Amaya furrows her brow.

“What’s a lightsaber?”

Sara thinks she might feel a migraine coming on – it’s difficult to grapple some control, when she’s fighting off so many emotions. She thinks Rkorya must feel it, because she’s been uncharacteristically understated in her reaction to all this. “I’m sure Rkorya would be happy to explain that to you,” she tells Amaya, a little wryly.

“The moment I’m allowed enough breathing room to do so,” Rkorya adds.

“Sorry.” Jax nods to her directly, though his gaze keeps flickering over to Sara. “You’re right. But we should probably call the whole team together for this.”

The entire team occupying the same space doesn’t general equate to breathing room, Sara thinks, but she can’t deny that she’s already longing to see them all again. “Right,” she agrees finally. “We’ve got some serious catching up to do.”

“So you were stuck in a different world,” Jax reiterates in disbelief once they’ve all assembled at the bridge. “For a year.”

“And yet, to us – it felt like mere moments!” Stein, unsurprisingly, has been engrossed from the start of their explanation. “Not that time discrepancies would be, theoretically, uncommon between dimensions – especially distant ones. Still… astonishing.”

Sara’s on the edge of a fond smile, in spite of herself, as Rkorya nods to him curtly. “Fortunate for all of us that was the case. I can’t imagine the chaos that would’ve unfolded otherwise.”

“Come on, man, get your priorities straight,” Nate reprimands him, which Sara is pretty sure absolutely no one is convinced by. Sure enough, he turns to Rkorya, eyes shining. “Have you ever met anyone by the name of Indiana Jones?”

“No,” she tells him flatly, briefly glancing at Sara. “Although I’ve already been informed of the fictional… similarities you’re apparently familiar with.”

“Multiple times, actually,” Sara adds. She hates to stamp on their excitement, but she’s also vaguely fearing for their future safety. “Seriously, guys, it’s kind of old by now.”

“Can I just hold it?” Nate eyes Rkorya’s lightsaber, ignoring the veiled warning. “Just once? Can I touch your spiky horn things?”

“Nate,” Sara snaps, annoyed now. He pauses, eyeing her sheepishly – and then falters in earnest when he sees the level, intent way Rkorya is regarding him.

“I might allow it,” she begins, tone deceptively cordial in a way Sara recognizes instantly. “Provided you find the risk agreeable.”

“Risk?”

“You may not get your hand back afterwards.”

Mick, who up until now hasn’t contributed much to the conversation from where he’s leaning up against a wall, grins slightly.

There are situations where Sara would take a threat to one of her crew with some concern, but she registers this as casual Sith banter, by now. Nate obviously doesn’t have that background knowledge – he takes a slight step back, but Sara figures it’s good for him to learn some boundaries from the get-go.

“I think… that brings to light a more objective concern about all of this,” Stein takes the opportunity to intervene.

“Don’t know what you’re talking about,” Mick growls. “She’s speaking my language.”

“She is a Sith.” Stein ignores him, appealing to Sara directly. “Correct me if my limited knowledge of the canon is incorrect - or if it doesn’t apply to its real life equivalent - but doesn’t that mean she serves a fascist empire? That she abides by their code?”

Sara feels as much as watches the energy in the room tighten as both Rkorya and Amaya go tense. “What do you mean fascist empire –?” Amaya starts. Even Nate and Ray are starting to look uncomfortable.

“Well, actually the code of the Sith and the ideals of the Empire aren’t – mutually inclusive, necessarily –” Ray begins to ramble, but Rkorya cuts him off heatedly.

“I can speak for myself. Do not presume to know better than someone who’s lived this, no matter how many movies you’ve watched.” She fixes him with a fierce glare for a moment longer, and then turns to address Stein. “And I’ll remind you that I did not come to this dimension of my own accord, let alone to defend my ideals to a stranger.”

“Your ideals inherently need defending!” Amaya flares up in Stein’s defense. “Some of us have fought wars to keep people like you our of power! Or ancestors who have been persecuted and killed simply for being who they are!”

Tension bleeds through the whole room now. Stein, Amaya, and Rkorya face off, bristling, while Jax has moved warily to Stein’s other side. Ray and Nate seem to be trying to hold off escalating the situation, glancing nervously at Sara, but even Mick’s fingers are twitching towards his gun. Sara knows he might not have as many moral hangups here as the rest of them, but he’ll protect his teammates on principle, even if he pretends otherwise.

It’s well past time to step in. Sara - partly out of duty and partly out of a chronic disregard for self-preservation - steps between them.

“Everyone cool off.” The brunt of the order is directed towards the crew she actually leads. “We’re not wrecking the Waverider unless you want to sit around and fix it up afterwards.”

“Captain –” Stein begins crossly, but Sara holds up a hand.

“I understand,” she tells him more softly, and she does. For all that Rkorya has become a friend - a close one - Sara has never pretended to agree with what her Empire stands for. And she knows that Stein with all his ties to his Jewish heritage, and Amaya, a veteran of World War II, have more reason to speak out than anyone. She doesn’t want to stifle them, but she also doesn’t want them to misinterpret the situation. “I also spent years training with the League of Assassins.”

“She has a point,” Mick concedes prematurely. “She’s killed a hell of a lot of people.”

Sara shoots him a look, and he shrugs. “Not judging. I have too.”

“That’s not what I was getting at, but thanks.” She rolls her eyes and continues. “I spent years training with the League, and yeah, a lot of what I learned there was less than savory. But I also learned that when the people at the head of an organization are shit, sometimes you have to count on the people underneath them to make a difference. Rkorya’s smart. She’s competent. She cares. She spent her time in that other world making it more organized and more safe for everyone, and she managed to do that without overthrowing democracy as we know it.”

Silence greets her obvious vote of good faith, but her team is at least looking more wary now and less… stunned and mutinous. She continues, “Rkorya’s world needs her. Without her, the Empire’s not going to just disappear – but believe it or not, a lot more lives will be at stake.” Here she finally turns to meet Rkorya’s gaze, and a heartbeat of grim understanding passes between them. Neither of them will ever forget what the viewer showed them on Rime (speaking of, she probably owes Rip a serious talk – but that’s an issue for another time).

At any rate, her intervention seems to be enough to convince Rkorya to lay down her metaphorical arms for the time being. When she steps up to Sara’s side, the aggression has seeped out of her stance, and the chill in the air has lightened.

“I have no desire to threaten you or your world. I merely wish to return to mine” she tells them stiffly. She tilts her head and regards Amaya more carefully. “What you spoke of – persecution, discrimination based on race, or species, or religion – if nothing else we can agree that it is both ineffective and vile. That I will fight against even within the bounds of my own Empire.”

“I’m sure that makes her feel a whole lot better,” Mick quips sarcastically, but Amaya is regarding Rkorya with a kind of somber weightedness now. Finally, she gives a curt nod – and then glances at Stein.

“Well – not all of us may be… happy about it,” he murmurs, half-relenting. “But if the extent of our involvement is returning her to where she belongs –”

“That might be easier said than done.” Jax both looks and sounds awkward about it. “I mean, the tech we need to cross dimensions is in Central City, and we still kinda have our hands full…”

“With what?” Rkorya turns her attention on him, frowning.

Where to even begin, Sara realizes – here she is, reunited not only with her friends (her family) but with the opportunity for revenge that she’s never quite managed to pry herself away from longing. She thinks of Damien Darhk, imagines choking the smirk off his face and the life from his lungs slowly and painfully – and has to clamp down on a fresh surge of rage before it draws attention to her.

“Right. Before I left, we were dealing with… a problem.” She chews the inside of her cheek, remembering the speedster. “Several problems, actually.”

She feels the carefulness with which Rkorya watches her. Maybe she’s remembering the other part of what they saw in the Rime viewer, now. “Then, if your team would allow my assistance… I’d be all too glad to lend it.” She glances over to the rest of them. “It would solve all our problems that much more quickly.”

Sara stays silent, because while she appreciates Rkorya’s loyalty - and while she is the captain - she won’t force her team into an alliance they’re not comfortable with.

“Weeell, I’m all for it,” Ray speaks first, if more slowly than is typical for him. “I mean, let’s face it. With all of time and thus… reality potentially at stake, we could use all the extra firepower we can get.”

“She seems badass.” Nate sounds more comfortable voicing his support in Ray’s wake. “I’m just hoping I come out of this with all my limbs intact.”

Mick grunts noncommittally, only deciding to expound when Sara shoots him a questioning glance. “Whatever. If we’re doing this, we’re doing it. I don’t care who we drag along as long as I get to burn something.”

While not exactly reassuring, it’s about what Sara expected from him. She nods, and turns to the remaining three – whose opinions she’s also the most uncertain of.

Jax, for his part, looks slowly from her to Rkorya, and then back. He’s practically her second in command, and more than that, his voice is one she’s come to depend on for its compassion and objectivity (sometimes she lacks both). “If Sara trusts her,” he says finally, simply. “Then so do I.”

She exhales quietly. She’d forgotten up until this moment, she realizes, how much his opinion means to her.

“Jefferson… makes a valid point,” Stein admits tersely. “That you are willing to vouch for her – I suppose I should have taken that into consideration from the beginning, Captain Lance.”

He frowns at Rkorya directly in the next moment, none the less. “But that does not mean I agree with – with what you serve. Or that I ever will.”

Rkorya inclines her head, eyes narrowed slightly. “Fortunately such matters are irrelevant to a temporary alliance,” she replies, just as terse.

Amaya seems resigned to being outvoted – she doesn’t voice her assent, but she unfolds her arms, frowning. “I’ll be keeping an eye on you,” she tells Rkorya shortly – and leaving it there, stalks off to some other part of the ship, head held high.

Sara thinks she should make a point of going after her sooner rather than later. Amaya’s still one of their newer members, after all, and the last thing she wants is to make her feel more alienated than she already might. For the moment, though, the team takes that as their cue to disperse and tend to their usual pre-takeoff preparations. She leans back against the console, waiting for them to leave her alone with Rkorya for a moment – so she’s a little surprised when Jax pauses on his way out and pulls her into a careful hug.

She tenses briefly, and then leans into him, wrapping her arms loosely around his shoulders. “It’s only been like, five minutes for you, nerd.”

“Yeah,” he murmurs. “But for you it’s been a lot longer.”

After a year away, Sara hadn’t realized she needed this. Apparently, though, Jax has.

She finally pulls away, and he lets her, giving Rkorya a short nod before heading off himself. It’s Ray who stops next, grinning lopsidedly at Sara, but she can tell what he’s really there for. It’s an effort not to smirk a little as Rkorya begins to look dubious.

“Listen – I just wanted to say –” Ray fumbles a little, not uncharacteristically. “Well, I know they’re just movies to you, but to me – those stories were what gave me hope, as a kid. Hell, they’re what inspired a lot of my work.”

“Your work?” Rkorya looks him over skeptically.

“He’s our inventor,” Sara informs her, allowing herself a private (and a damn good one).

“I dunno, just… a world where people can cross the stars? With all this incredible technology at their fingertips, where you get to make these… big, defining choices about who and what you want to be…” Ray looks embarrassed for a moment as they watch him ramble on. “What I’m trying to say is, well – it means a lot. Getting to meet you.”

Sara knows Rkorya well enough to read the minute surprise in her expression, even as it flickers and is gone within the next second. “Well, if you have been as inspired as you claim… perhaps I’ll have a look at some of these inventions myself. Should we get the opportunity.”

“Really?” Ray’s whole face lights up. “Because I would love your input on my suit’s weapons systems – oh, and I’ve been tinkering with this… lightsaber-esque design? I say ‘esque’ because I can’t exactly mimic –”

“Ray,” Sara cuts in patiently, and he clears his throat.

“Right. Right! Later.” He actually fingerguns Rkorya as he starts to back away, and she has to repress another sigh. “I will see you both… later.”

The bridge finally empties out, and Sara and Rkorya are left to share a moment of silence alone.

“You certainly didn’t undersell them,” Rkorya finally breaks it, and Sara’s lips twitch.

“They’re… a handful.” She doesn’t even try to hide the statement’s affectionate edge. “And for a team of superheroes, they don’t really tend to warm up to people quickly, so an initial disaster was probably inevitable. But! With that out of the way…”

“We’ll be fast friends, I’m sure,” Rkorya finishes for her dryly, though she also sounds a little amused.

“Mostly, anyway.” There’s no promising that Stein and Amaya will come around, if Sara knows them, but you can’t win every battle. She pauses, bracing herself for more earnest sincerity. “…But, thank you. For saying you’ll help. I promise, we’ll get you home as soon as we can.”

“They’re your people,” Rkorya replies simply, turning to meet her gaze. “That alone is enough to make them worth prioritizing.”

It means more than Sara knows how to say – but the nice thing, at this point, is that she doesn’t really have to say it. If they’d been in Rkorya’s world, with Rkorya’s crew, she likes to think she’d feel the same way.

“Well,” she says finally, bracing herself for a ride (in more ways than one), “Let’s get this show on the road.”

#numinousbones #i was really tempted to try and fit in some arrow cast interactions but it didnt quite work out with the pacing #maybe next time....#feat. ray being a nerd rkorya being next level done and sara and jax being Siblings #also this is probably my longest gift fic because i love throwing people at these assholes

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coldtomyflash · 7 years

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Hi I was just wondering, I know you almost exclusively as a coldflash person, but I'm curious if there are any other ships you really like and if you'd have any interest in writing for them in the future?

I’d be happy to write more coldwave. One issue for me with that ship is that it’s pretty much got to be established relationship if I go with their canon ages / situations, because if I’m shipping them, I can pretty much only see them as already partners in canon. Which is tough for me because I’m way less likely to write established-relationship stuff if I’m writing a long fic, because I love to write beginnings, but if I write their past, I already know where it has to lead if I want to work with canon, and so much about it already. So I feel like unless I write a total AU, most of what I can write, with respect to my own preferred style, will be a lot shorter than the CF stuff I come up with. Unless I go full AU, which I’ve never done, so I don’t yet know how I’d feel about it. I like working with canon a lot, but I also know that at some point, you just gotta toss it out the window...

I’d write more coldflashwave too lol, and flashwave. I promised someone a Cisco/Wally fic that I’d like to get around to at some point, though I can’t imagine it being much longer than 10k at most.

I fell in love with Lisa/Iris so I’d consider writing more of that. And goldenvibe too. Just... more Lisa in almost every ship lol.

I’d also write flashvibe if I felt the right idea catch for it. It’s a bit harder for me to know how to write that dynamic and how I would work with / diverge from canon, and I feel that Barry’s always going to be a bit selfish with Cisco? Which is a theme I’d definitely have to explore if I wrote it, so I could navigate and undo it, really. But yeah, bffs to lovers? Would be a bit tough but I like the pairing. (Also like westallenvibe or whatever the ship is called by a long poly ship fic would be way harder for me haha).

I’d consider writing atomwave because I like the ship, but I’m disappointed that after the cold gun was taken apart, Mick and Ray pretty much stopped interacting in Legends? They were supposed to be a pair, according to Ray himself, and Ray just ditched Mick once he became friends with Nate and I’m sour over it.

But overall, I don’t have any immediate plans for any of these ships, especially for really long stuff? I have to feel pretty connected to the pairing or the idea for a really long fic. I love a lot of ships and read for a lot of ships that I don’t write for, for the record :) I legit have a tag “i am shipping trash”....

#i'm way too lazy to tag all these ships haha #multishipping #i am shipping trash #forgot to mention harry #the versions of harry are tough for me #i'd only write versions of him in ships with really particular and not always pleasant setups ftr #let me know if this needs a tag or three #Anonymous #replies

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THE GREAT CRUNCHYROLL NARUTO REWATCH Arrives at the Big Moment: Naruto vs. Sasuke in Episodes 126-132!

Welcome back to the GREAT CRUNCHYROLL NARUTO REWATCH! I'm Nicole Mejias, and I'll be your host this week as we make our way through all 220 episodes of the original Naruto. Last week, we covered Episodes 120-126, where Gaara and the sand ninjas redeemed themselves and started kicking some major butt! Also, drunk Rock Lee!

This week, we’re passing the 100 episodes left mark by hitting episodes 127-133, and that means it is time for the showdown we’ve all been waiting for: Naruto vs. Sasuke! But first, Gaara has a few minor things to finish dealing with, but it seems like everyone’s favorite sandy boy will be fine. Sadly, this week’s batch ends right before the grand finale of Naruto vs. Sasuke, but we get through a lot of the emotional labor first before the big pay-off by seeing more of Sasuke and Itachi’s mysterious pasts.

Let’s not delay the big showdown any longer and find out what the Features Team thought!

Boy, that sure was an anti-climactic finish to the Gaara vs. Kimimaro fight. How did you feel about the way that resolved?

Paul: I didn't feel that Gaara vs. Kimimaro was anti-climatic, partly because the whole bone thing really creeped me out and I was ready for that to be over, but also because they spent time climbing inside Kimimaro's head-space, and he was ultimately such a tragic character. I'm a sucker for how Orochimaru keeps hoovering up all of the sad, queer ninja kids who don't belong in their original clans and Villages and creating a weird, evil Brady Bunch ninja family.

Kevin: The end of that fight is one of the few things in the entire franchise that disappointed me so much that it came back around to being memorable.

Danni: Honestly, having a character just up and die from an illness feels both so convenient and so subversive that I have to respect it.

Jared: It always kind of felt like that was going to be the inevitable end anyways, so I’m not too bothered by it. Although, I feel like with his ability, ripping out your spinal column and using it should be an ability that would ultimately end you, yet it’s just his illness.

David: The ending was so abrupt that I was surprised it was over well after the fact. Kimimaro has an interesting story but he got shortchanged by being the midboss before the most important fight in the whole first “part” of the show, I guess.

Joseph: I totally loved how it ended! I’m a sucker for subverting expectations like that. Considering all Kimimaro has gone through, it was more than appropriate to die like that on the spot during such a huge fight.

Noelle: I’m still surprised by it, to be completely honest. I could’ve gone for more of course, but there’s something about it that’s so abrupt that made it stick with me. Perfect timing for our heroes, but at the same time, fitting. I felt it worked.

Carolyn: I actually loved that ending. We don’t always need to have a big flashy violent showdown. He fought hard, his body couldn't take it. It’s different and refreshing. I’m a fan.

Kara: After Kimimaro literally pulled out his own spine I was kind of too dazed to register anything else.

Personally, I always found it interesting how other characters were far more interesting than Naruto and Sasuke at times, and I think the growth of Gaara is a great example of that. How do you feel about Gaara now vs. when he first showed up?

Paul: Before, Gaara was a psychopathic but adorable baby murder cinnamon roll, and I loved him. Now he's a sympathetic but adorable baby murder cinnamon roll, and I still love him, only in a slightly different way. I'm really looking forward to seeing how he continues to develop as a character.

Kevin: Well, they were supposed to be designed after Goku and Vegeta, so Naruto being the most boring one might just be an extra faithful homage. As for Gaara, I don’t dislike that he’s mellowed out and is willing to cooperate with people, but I wish that we saw more of a gradual change instead of him just suddenly not being murderous because Naruto’s greatest jutsu is friendship.

Danni: I really liked seeing Gaara act more sympathetic to those around him. I don’t think he’s more interesting than Naruto yet, but I’m looking forward to seeing more of him.

Jared: As someone who was definitely a detractor of him before his turn, I’m enjoying seeing how he’s taken to heart some of the stuff Naruto told him and even throwing it back in the face of Kimimaro. I’m curious to see if he continues to be ever brooding throughout or if that part of him changes or not.

David: He’s definitely more interesting now than he was previously. I particularly enjoyed the scene between him and Lee as they just sort of chilled together under a tree’s shade after the fight with Kimimaro was over.

Joseph: I like Gaara but I don’t necessarily think he’s any more interesting than Naruto is. It’s too early to tell how his character will evolve from here, but I like what they’re doing with him.

Noelle: Gaara is one of my top faves, so I’m not going to pretend I don’t have a bias here. I think Naruto’s still pretty great and I wouldn’t say Gaara is more engaging than he is, but Gaara’s really made some strides. He’s taken the lessons he’s been given and learned from them, and he is becoming more of a complete person as a result. Also, that doesn’t stop his potential in a fight at all. You go, Gaara.

Carolyn: I still feel like there was no character growth here. He just showed up. He wanted to kill Rock Lee not that long ago and there was zero resolution to that. They just join forces out of nowhere.

Kara: I’m not sure how I feel re: character growth. I mean obviously there was some, because he’s not rocking back and forth in a ball of sand whispering to his mother. So, you know, good for him, clearly got some stuff sorted out for himself. I’d be interested to see what happened while we were looking the other way, though. Naruto doesn’t exactly fear flashbacks, so I have a feeling we’ll find out at some point.

Speaking of character growth, Rock Lee has certainly had an interesting arc in these past few episodes. It feels good to see him back, if a bit fast, but since we probably won’t see him for a while, how do you feel about Lee’s send off here?

Paul: Way back in the write-up for episodes 50–56, I proposed that Rock Lee is the Mick Foley of the Naruto universe, in that he's kind of a dork, everybody loves him, and he gets the ever-living tar beat out of him every time he shows up. I have to add an additional way that Rock's trajectory resembles Mick's pro-wrestling career: he loses–dramatically–in all of his most important matches. I'd honestly like to see him win something for a change.

Kevin: To be perfectly honestly, my first thought after seeing the question was “wait, did Lee get a send off?”, so that’s probably not a good sign.

Danni: That was a send off???

Jared: If there’s not a filler arc that’s just Rock Lee getting up to shenanigans, I’m going to be very disappointed.

David: Such is the fate of tertiary Naruto characters.

Joseph: Poor Rock Lee. I love him but this was his least memorable set of episodes in my opinion. I second the “that was a send off?” question.

Noelle: In terms of canonical material (filler not included) I know this is going to be the last we see of Lee for a while. And that’s such a shame–Lee’s a good kid, and I could always take more Rock Lee.

Carolyn: Yeah, I wasn’t aware that was a send off either. I would have just seen that as any other side character episode. They are there sometimes and sometimes they are not.

Kara: Wait, where’s he going? No one told me he was going anywhere. Shoot. Now I’m going to go back and watch his drunken fighting and appreciate it harder.

So, here we are. Naruto vs. Sasuke. The big culmination of the recovery arc is about to occur… and… flashbacks. So, how do we feel about the secrets of the Uchiha clan, the Mangekyo Sharingan, and Itachi after these revelations?

Paul: If I'm reading this correctly, in order to master the ultimate Sharingan technique of the Uchiha clan, you have to murder someone (or multiple someones) that you love dearly. I get that, very ninja-esque. I still don't understand what motivates Itachi to pursue that level of power. That bit about him “testing his vessel” was just gibberish to me. I did like how they changed up some details in Sasuke's flashbacks, implying that Itachi's techniques have the ability to alter people's memories.

Kevin: I am continuing to try to not spoil too much about future events, so for now I’ll stick with this: I like that that a lot of things are getting explored. The Uchiha’s role in the village, what the Mangekyo Sharingan is, some kind of motivation for Itachi killing the clan. It’s all neat and whether you like the answers or not, at least there’s an answer instead of everything completely unexplained for the entire show. That being said… don’t get too attached to most of it.

Danni: I continue to eagerly anticipate how they try to flip it so that Itachi was actually the good guy all along.

Jared: No wonder Sasuke has become the way he is, Itachi and his dad surely didn’t help things. Itachi’s drive to being out of his mind with the vessel talk seemed odd, but having that kind of constant pressure on you to be the best, especially at a young age can cause you to break in bad ways.

David: I actually thought the flashbacks did a lot to make Itachi look like one of the most intelligent and reasonable characters in the whole show, a real role model for Sasuke. Of course, Itachi doesn’t end up finding the results he wants fast enough by working within the system, so he ends up choosing to burn the system itself to the ground instead. His stated reasoning isn’t just odd, it’s also at odds with everything he said leading up to it. How can he justify all this carnage for the sake of power, when one of the core tenets of his ideology beforehand was how badly power and the pursuit of it messes people up? As of now anyway, he doesn’t, and that leads Sasuke to taking all the wrong lessons from his big brother. But maybe there’s more to the story than we’ve gotten so far.

Joseph: I found the past of the Uchiha clan interesting, but wasn’t a huge fan of the way they structured it. I’d rather have a couple solid episodes exploring the backstory than peppering it so much throughout the buildup to the fight that it impacts the pacing. There’s still a ton of mystery to Itachi to dig into, though.

Noelle: My other fave is Itachi, and I very clearly remember how these episodes went down and just how revelatory they were to me. The Itachi we see in the flashbacks, where you can tell Sasuke genuinely loves and admires, compared to the fallout we see now, what a difference. Growing up in the Uchiha clan is really not the best place to be, huh.

Carolyn: This week is very, very flashback heavy. Generally, we get some flashbacks intermingled with fighting. This feels like it leans on the flashbacks a lot. I do feel like they are trying to set it up to appear that Itachi was secretly a good guy and we got him all wrong like this show likes to do.

Kara: I was thinking to myself all through this how there are basically no ninja clans that don’t have drama. Then I remembered, well, this is a society devoted to training (and occasionally modifying your body in horrifying ways) toward a single purpose, of course it’s gonna be a mess every day. I actually didn’t mind the flashbacks being peppered throughout. That’s a thing I know the show does, and it’s an interesting way to slow-release info at just the right time for things to land meaning-wise. It explains a lot, I’ll say that.

So, something that always bothered me: I kind of feel like Sasuke is being a brat. How do you all feel about this development in Sasuke’s character? I never really found myself sympathetic to his personality change.

Paul: I agree that Sasuke is being a brat, but to me that seems less like a drastic change in character and more like a natural evolution given his motivations and back-story. The desire for revenge has been eating him alive from the very beginning, and no matter how many people reach out to him, Sasuke can't see past his own pain and his own rage. I pity him and I want him to find a better path, and that's good character writing.

Kevin: He didn’t really have any kind of personality change. It’s more that he’s always been power hungry in order to kill Itachi, and now he’s seen that he’s nowhere near strong enough and so is desperate to grow even more quickly no matter the risks. It honestly makes a lot of sense, especially now that we know his backstory better. It’s just a shame that he perpetually sounds like he’s ignoring everyone and throwing a tantrum instead of telling people why he’s leaving and/or asking other people for help, since strength in numbers is still strength.

Danni: I don’t quite see him as a brat. If anything I fail to understand why he’s chosen Orochimaru’s path towards strength. Surpassing his brother means nothing if he does so with borrowed power. Itachi got where he is all on his own. Shouldn’t Sasuke do the same?

Jared: I don’t think he ever really changed out of his revenge obsession, but just got to a point where he figured Orochimaru’s plan would be his easiest path to getting the power to take on Itachi. Although it was interesting during the fight with Naruto where he basically had to keep pumping himself up and telling himself that there’s no turning back from this, as if he has to constantly say that or everything just breaks for him.

David: I take contention with both the idea that Sasuke’s personality has changed as well as the idea that this isn’t Sasuke’s last resort. In regards to the former, Sasuke was literally introduced with the idea of revenge as not just his main but his only motivator; every instance we see of him even confiding in his teammates like with the tree-climbing exercise was ultimately another step toward that goal and not much else. Evolving from that, it is only natural that Sasuke would be enticed by something like Orochimaru’s proposed “easy button” of sorts for power. He has been trying to do what Itachi could for essentially his whole life, even before he hated Itachi, as this week’s flashbacks show. However, he has never had the innate talent Itachi did; Itachi tried to teach him that this might not even be a thing he should care so much about, but that lesson got thrown out the window when Itachi made Sasuke hate him and forget all about it. I think what I’m getting at here is that Sasuke hasn’t changed almost at all so far, but if we step back and look at everything we’ve learned about him, he is simply more complicated than we used to think.

Joseph: It’s all really tragic, especially when we get hints of the potential for change within Sasuke. He’s clearly wrestling with the fact that he’s found friends yet he’s a freight train with a single destination. Anything in the way gets plowed through completely, and it’s just kind of sad. I will say I never saw Naruto and Sasuke’s relationship with the sometimes rose-tinted glasses the flashbacks give it, but such is life.

Noelle: Sasuke is 100% a brat, but at the same time, his mental gymnastic routine isn’t one that’s unfathomable for his character. He’s always stated that his driving force is vengeance, something that comes from a truly negative place as opposed to a positive one, so is it really that strange that he’d end up going to extremes? I don’t think so. The seed was always there, and now it’s exploded into the worst venue possible. It makes sense.

Carolyn: The more I rewatch the more I wonder why I liked Sasuke in the first place. He’s such a punk.

Kara: When Sasuke said that line about “I’m special, too,” I was like… that’s it, that’s the character arc. Naruto spent all this time grumbling about how much people like Sasuke, but then he turned that into a reason to get better. I can understand Sasuke’s background and damage based on his family, but this whole being mad because people are more interested in Naruto’s tummy-fox than in Sasuke is childish.

So, we don’t see what happens in the battle yet this week, but how do you all think it's going to go? Who do you have as the winner? And does it even matter who wins, since it may be the end of this friendship?

Paul: Judging by the episode for next week entitled “The Promise That Could Not Be Kept” which features a thumbnail of Naruto covered in bandages, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that Naruto gets his butt kicked. I wouldn't worry about the friendship ending. If Shonen Jump series have taught me anything, it's that yesterday's mortal enemies are tomorrow's super best friends.

Kevin: This is Naruto, the world will end before a friendship does. That being said, this is a battle where no matter the outcome, there is no winner. If Naruto takes Sasuke back to the village, it’ll only be by literally dragging him back. If Sasuke wins, Naruto fails everyone waiting for him to bring Sasuke back. If Kakashi intervenes, then the fight had basically no meaning since there is no actual conclusion. But if there is any conclusion, then one of them may well die (of course, we have a bit of clairvoyance on our side knowing that there are 90 more episodes and two sequel series with the name Naruto in the title, so the stakes are lowered a little).

Danni: My gut is telling me that Sasuke will get away in the end, but my brain is telling me that we have months of filler ahead of us and there’s no way Sasuke can just be gone for all of it. Do you really expect any of us to believe this friendship is over, though? Really???

Jared: I’m not really expecting a de facto winner to emerge here, but something to happen and Sasuke is able to continue on his path and Naruto goes the other way. Whether that’s by Kakashi interrupting the fight or they somehow double KO each other. It’s just weird to think as well because this is it before we go into fillerville and I don’t know how exactly you continue on from this type of encounter and leave out someone like Sasuke who’s going to have this brand new story and character arc.

Joseph: Whoever wins… WE win, because episode 133 was an all-timer and one of the most impressively animated fights of the series thus far. It’s a testament to Kishimoto’s character crafting just how emotional it all is, too. It really feels desperate and crucial.

Noelle: Siding with Joseph here- we, the audience are the true victors. I’m so excited to have this fight on my plate again.

Carolyn: Naruto has to win, right? I don’t think this is the end of their friendship, but maybe a super, duper, major strain on it.

Kara: Kakashi’s gonna drag both those dumb buttheads back to the village.

As always, what were the high and low points of this week’s batch?

Paul: My high point is the entirety of episode 133, where Naruto and Sasuke really lay into one another and the production values get cranked up to eleven. I especially liked that key beats in the fight, such as when Sasuke nearly burns Naruto to a crisp with his fire-breathing Jutsu, were played like horror movie beats rather than action movie ones. My low point was all of the recycled footage leading up to that point, as the extensive use of flashbacks often took me out of the moment.

Kevin: High - Naruto and Sasuke actually fighting in earnest. Not a specific moment, but the back and forth of each revealing new powers and giving the fight everything, even a better animation budget. Low - So, does the Leaf just not have law enforcement anymore? The Uchiha were the police force, and I don’t remember anyone ever mentioning the force in present day, nor mentioning the force being rebuilt after the Uchiha were wiped out. Maybe the Anbu took over, but that seems excessive and we would probably see a lot more cloaked figures in masks if that were the case.

Danni: The high point this week is easily the entire real fight between Naruto and Sasuke, no contest. The animation was stellar and my god the creative choreography in that fight was to die for. I could watch it over and over again. I want to say the low point was the multiple episodes of recap, but if that’s what it takes to get the amazing-looking fight we did, just lay the flashbacks on me, Pierrot.

Jared: High point is easily Naruto vs. Sasuke when it actually got going. It was phenomenal. Low point would probably be the constant tease to the fight with a bunch of flashbacks and what not, but in the end, it was well worth the wait.

David: My high point actually is the flashbacks, because of how much more interesting they made both Sasuke and Itachi, which is vital to making the entire conflict actually interesting. Low point is the suddenly deflated balloon that is the end of the Kimimaro fight. Poor dude.

Joseph: High point: Naruto vs. Sasuke for real in episode 133.

Low point: I think they could have condensed the flashbacks or structured them differently. It took me out of the buildup even though it was part of the buildup.

Noelle: High point, Sasuke’s backstory and how that resulted in a massive character breakdown. Also, Naruto vs Sasuke, give me that high-tier animation any day of the week. Low point, the pacing of the flashbacks, but that’s more of an arbitrary point. I really liked the content we got this week.

Carolyn: High point: Honestly that super surprising ending to Gaara’s fight. So original! Low point: Probably Sasuke’s jerk attitude. Chill out, man.

Kara: High point is the Naruto vs. Sasuke fight, as expected. Low point is Sasuke’s level-up lipstick. It’s not working for him. I’d have gone warmer tone.

COUNTERS:

Ramen: 2 bowls Hokage: 0 Clones: 15 + 1 uncountable scene

Total so far:

Bowls of Ramen: 44 bowls, 3 cups

“I'm Gonna be Hokage!”: 52

Shadow Clones Created: 367

And that's everything for this week! Remember that you're always welcome to join us for this rewatch, especially if you haven't watched the original Naruto! Watch Naruto today!

CATCH UP ON THE REWATCH!

Episodes 120-126: The Sand Siblings Return

Episodes 113-119: Operation Rescue Sasuke

Episodes 106-112: Sasuke Goes Rogue

Episodes 99-105: Trouble in the Land of Tea

Episodes 92-98: Clash of the Sannin

Episodes 85-91: A Life-Changing Decision

Episodes 78-84: The Fall of a Legend

Episodes 71-77: Sands of Sorrow

Episodes 64-70: Crashing the Chunin Exam

Episodes 57-63: Family Feud

Episodes 50-56: Rock Lee Rally

Episodes 43-49: The Gate

Episodes 36-42: Through the Woods

Episodes 29-35: Sakura Unleashed

Episodes 22-28: Chunin Exams Kickoff

Episodes 15-21: Leaving the Land of Waves

Episodes 8-14: Beginners' Battle

Episodes 1-7: I'm Gonna Be the Hokage!

Here's our upcoming schedule:

- May 31st, NOELLE OGAWA will start us off on a journey back into the land of filler.

- June 7th, DAVID LYNN keeps us going as we get even deeper into filler.

- June 14th, PAUL CHAPMAN will detail in the depth of this sea of fillers.

Thank you for joining us for the Great Crunchyroll Naruto Rewatch! Have a great weekend, and we'll see you all next time!

Have anything to say about our thoughts on Episodes 127-133? Let us know in the comments! Don't forget, we're also accepting questions and comments for next week, so don't be shy and feel free to ask away!

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