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#i dont think suns is intentionally cruel i just think they had never had that kind of relationship before and fucked a lot of things up
copepods · 5 months
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i love suns and pebbles canon dynamic in my head its kind of weird and fucked up and i wish more people depicted it as that (tag ramble incoming)
#i have a lot of thoughts about suns as a character#since theres not much from them in the story its mostly headcanon though#i think suns is someone who desperately wants to be liked and admired#like maybe theyre one of the youngest in their local group (i think theyre in a separate neighboring group to moons)#and they're not really used to being looked up to in any capacity#so pebbles is the first person who really respects them in that way and because of that they have this weird contradictory relationship#where sometimes suns relishes in that dynamic a little too much and holds the power over pebbles head and gets a little mean#and sometimes because suns still wants pebbles to keep liking and admiring them they can get a little too indulgent of him#hence the gold pearl. i think suns gave it to him bc they wanted him to find some kind of happiness but there was also a selfish element#'if i give this to him he'll like me more' etc#i dont think suns is intentionally cruel i just think they had never had that kind of relationship before and fucked a lot of things up#after spearmaster they start to get better at it esp since spearmaster is kind of a second chance for them. so suns learns to be kinder#on pebbles' end. i like to think pebbles was a lil infatuated with them. esp because he felt like they were the only one who understood him#unreciprocated tho. suns cared about him but more from a mentorly point of view than anything#kind of a weird thing where he looked up to them as an authority figure but also really kind of wanted them to be on the same level#in conclusion: toxic robot yuri can be cool sometimes#text#rain world
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tumblunni · 5 years
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OH FUCK I THINK I FINALLY CRACKED THE CODE OF WHY I ALWAYS LIKE THE VILLAINS BETTER
Like man it always makes me so confused cos i mean im a soft AF person and i always end up having sympathetic redemption headcanons for them so its not like i like VILLAINY ITSELF but what else do all these characters have in common?
Thats it. Thats it, ursula helped me crack it.
I just WANT THOSE TRAITS ON THE HEROES
I really want a nice confident sassy funny chubby trans auntie who promotes body positivity to our young hero and always gets to say the coolest lines and get the best moments and BE LOVED FOR WHO SHE IS
And like usually whenever you get anywhere close to seeing those "villain traits" on a hero they like.. Remove all the good parts. If you have a supportive hero aunt she's always boring and generically supportive instead, and has to look like the most stereotypical boring mess ans have a super small plot role and uuuugh thats IF SHES EVEN THERE i mean seriously aunties and grandmas are weirdly less represented as mentors than grandpas who are already REALLY HARD TO FIND and again OFTEN GENERIC AND UNFUN WHENEVER THEY GET TO APPEAR
And how damn often are we allowed to have a chubby gay aunt!! WHERE IS MY CHUBBY GAY AUNT!! ive met SO MANY chubby gay aunts in real life like 90% of all my psychologists have been either that or like.. The exact same but a straight lgbt ally instead. Sassy plus size aunties are THE BACKBONE OF OUR SOCIETY DAMMIT! I've had so much help thanks to sassy gay aunts!! And like even just looking at any damn crowd scene in a normal city centre youre gonna see so many chubby aunts and long nosed uncles and all those sorts of bullshit "ugly people" that mass media pretends are ugly and relegates to One Minor Role In The Entire Cast despite them being infinately more common than supermodels and NOT UGLY AT ALL GEEZ IT PISSES ME OFF SO MUCH
I cant believe im a fuckin disney villain fan cos of body positivity
Tfw u suck so bad at making hateable people that the fandom universally hugs all your villains and ignores your boring protagonists like fuckin TAKE THAT DIDNEY
God i wanna hug hades sooo bad he just needs a friend aaaaaa
And i mean its not just disney, every damn time ive obsessed over a villain its been because they have some trait thats supposed to be "bad" but its actually good and we dont get to see it on the heroes
Like my thing with science villains in particular is that when i first played ff7 i really liked the idea of an evil minion who's a bad sidekick not just because he's "dumb" or "bumbling" but because he's actually not interested in any of the evil stuff and he works against his own boss and is like.. Friendly to the heroes, i have no particular grudge against you and i wont stop you if im off duty and all. I liked the Turks for the same reason but in the origibal ff7 translation they were kind of stoic and serious and i didnt really become as much of a fan of them til i saw them being more goofy and comic relief in some optional sidequests and then their movie adaptation. But hojo was always being all "lol my boss's plan is so stupid amirite" and had that very memorable scene where he's just sunbathing and tells you everything you need to know to get to the next thing to ruin his boss's plan cos i mean fuck it who even cares im just here to soak up some sun while fully dressed in a turtleneck and labcoat. It sucked so much that he was such a reprehensible bastard with creepy sexual assault vibes and murder and child abuse and experimenting on people and basically just NOT A LOVEABLE VILLAIN but his CONCEPT held so much potential to be filled by a sympathetic character instead...
So yeah then cos of him i kept being obsessed with finding SOME CHARACTER SOMEWHERE that actually lived up tp that potential, and thats why i was instantly interested in charon from pokemon and totally on edge waiting for the slightest chance for him to become That Perfect Sass Gramps Of Legend. And then he was indeed sassy!! And had so little screenyime that there was potential for interpretation of him as potentially redeemable cos i mean the game never said he wasnt, the game barely said anything about him at all, lol. And he was so old and small and frail looking and i just wanted to protect him!! And then that one wifi event that actually hinted at synpatheticness!! Aaaa its a recipe for a Forever Fave~
And i guess maybe it all started with my grandma being awesome and me really missing her? Cos i had shitty abusive parents and she was my ONLY good family member who showed me what love was like. And she was also basically a supervillain. Like every damn supervillain trait except being evil! She was bombastic and confident and sassy and mischievious and loud and passionate about stuff and always had something funny to say and never gave up no matter how many times she failed. And she also used all that great power for the forces of good!
So yeh thats why i love sassy good guys and i hate that often even when a sassy villain gets redeemed they seem to lose all their edge and become more generic now theyre a good guy. Or they get totally sidelined with no screentime anymore, or they ONLY get to be comic relief and dont get the full and complex redemption they deserve. Or just a lot of bads!! Its never the simplest answer of just fuckin.. Keep the character the character. Thats kinda why i didnt feel too much for the maleficent movie even though the concept itself sounded like everything i ever wanted. The character in that movie is a very different person to origibal maleficent, she's more just a stoic tsundere mumsy figure than a hammy badass iconicness. Still a nice villain redemption but it felt like it would have been better as an original story instead of an attempted maleficent. Also i wish they handled it better with the whole "true love's kiss could be from your mum instead" thing cos i get sooooo grossed out whenever i see people shipping movie maleficent and aurora! Like yes sleeping beauty with lesbians would be great but not when one of them is old enough to be her mum and raised her like a mum and changed her goddamn diapers! Also why did they have to ruin the three good fairies just to make maleficent have the mum opportunity? Like just remove them from the story if you wanted maleficent to raise the kid instead. No need to rewrite them into incompetant assholes when they were everyone's fave part of the original! Dont sacrifice the rare and elusive Good Sassy Gay Aunts!! THEYRE LIKE THE ONLY ONES IN DIDNEY!!! (Incodentally merlin is the equivelant of this to hades as the fairies are to ursula)
Also also villains tend to have ACTUAL FLAWS in stories that have a more boring bland protagonist. I wanna see the story behind charon's neuroses and how he struggles with overcoming his temptation to be bad because of greed but ultimately manages to conquer his own negative side because power of friendship and such. Thats a great character arc that provides so much more than he does as a villain where they just wasted him entirely :(
SO BASICALLY IN SUMMARY
* villains are often more complex and well developed characters with flaws while the same wroter might make shitty heroes due to the illogical fear that nobody would root for them if they werent 100% perfect and successful at everything ever
* villains are also often made as negative stereotypes of minorities and other rarely seen traits, which means its easy to reach out to them and reclaim them as a more positive version when theres literally no other options for you to cling to
* the quite common accidental sympathy factor where a villain will seem to be hated more than they deserve for their actions, ir unjustly punished so much that they feel like an underdog, since the writer assumes you'll think theyre "more evil" for being a stereotype and if you dont agree that this thing is bad then it seems like they have way less sins than the story claims they do
* also sass. Sass is good.
But basically the whole root of it is that its stupid and cruel and doesnt goddamn work when you make villains bigoted stereotypes. It just makes me love them! The only person i hate when i see a stereotypical villain is the writer who thought that was a good idea, lol. Just imagine that meme of the samurai holding the cat but its me holding all disney villains!
Also even if a villain isnt outright intentionally meant to be "this minority is bad", it can still make me symoathetic to them if theyre still something thats rare amoung the hero side in the same series. Like charon being the "most unredeemable" villain despite being the most harmless and funny and his plan being so much less world destroying than cyrus, and also he's the only grandpa villain in like.. The whole of all. And he's drawn very much in that way thays supposed to be "ugly" i.e normal grandpa, vs that weird sort of younger than he looks grandpa that hero ones tend to be because blablabla beauty ewuals goodness anti body positivity whatever. Tho actually sinnoh was good with that, they had the best grandpa professor in my opinion cos he got to be sassy too! Rowan always reminds me of auron from ff10. Sinnoh was a good game where i liked a lot of both the heroes and villains even if i still had more villain faves cos i mean pokemon is always biased towards that for me since every game has a voiceless perosnalityless main character and often theyre the one doing most of the heroing with the supporting hero characters having surprisingly little proper screen time. Thats a big part of why i loved hau gladion and lillie in sun and moon! They felt more like a real friend group than any other ones before.
ANYWAY now im just going offtopic into more "i love lots of stuff about every pokemon game" so ill stop typing now
But just basically VILLAINS ARE GOOD COS THEYRE GOOD CHARACTERS and if those stories gavethe same character a good guy role then id still love them just as much, if not more. I dont specifically like villainy, its just that my definition of a good character is often considered a bad character by lazy writers, apparantly?
Also WHERE IS MY SUPPORTIVE GOOD GRAMPS CHARON GAME AND GAY AUNTIE URSULA GIVES YOU FASHION TIPS SMARTPHONE MMO
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jamesrbailey · 6 years
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former drummer attacked my character on facebook, like a child. hilarious film at 11.
i mean, he was REALLY gonna set me right. he had words to say and i was gonna listen cause everything that he said is valid. everything he thinks about me is completely right. i oppress women (tell my mother, my niece, my girlfriend, and my sister), i hate gay people (tell my friend Heather Hawkins) and i'm against transgender people (tell my friend Allie French). let's not talk about the intimate conversations i have had with these people i mention, and the fact that these conversations consist of me rooting them on and giving them kudos for being who they are and owning their shit. to even go after him, at this point, is pathetic. consider the source? i don't even have to describe him like i usually would. thats the beauty of it. i don't even have to mention anything about him because everyone already knows, except for him. he thinks the sun shines out of his assholes, and he's gonna be a political pundit and run for office! HURRAH! virtue signallng at it's most pathetic and embarrassing worst. he created an entire scenario in his head about me and went with it, like he knew all about me and was gonna show me what for, and NONE of it made any sense. none of it will stick to me. not one negative thing he said about me is true. i got a million texts from friends assuring me that they didn't feel that way about me. my niece even texted me to tell me that he is wrong. I literally spent a day and a half calming people down and telling them that I KNOW that they dont think about me like that. i got an inbox of messages from people that i wont even mention, because i don't want to pull them into anything, i will never share our conversations with anyone. one on one conversation is private and it stays that way with me to me own detriment. out of all of that. what i learned is that people actually do care about me enough to come to my aid and tell me personally that they disregarded his tangent as bullshit, and that i have a lot of friends. more than i thought i had, that share mutual respect with me, and that fact right there is bigger and stronger than anything he could possibly do to me. now he has to live with that fact that he stirred up a big pot of shit out of petty reasons and hearsay that i "talked shit about him" like i could give a fuck about him at all enough to talk shit about him. if i said anything, it was the cold hard truth, and it's so ugly that he doesn't like it and can't accept it, and thats what caused his reaction. the truth, i will say here and now that i have no stock in talking shit about people. i have better things to do with my life then care about the nonsense of other peoples stupid lives, and i think that if anyone knows me, they know that about me. im not much of a people person. why would i go out of my way to talk shit? for what purpose? his petty little jealous argument of "im jay bailey and i think im bigger and better at everything and smarter than everyone" is complete projection. those we're his words, not mine. i have never pretended to be better than anyone else. again, if you know me, you know just how down on myself i get a lot of the time. im the first person to disregard myself, thats the way it is with depressed people. we tend to not like ourselves very much, but we work at it, so i for sure do not think very highly of myself at all. its quite the opposite actually. better at everything? i refuse to stand court martialed for my natural talents. i never asked for any of this. in fact, i tried to hide it from everyone for a very long time OUT OF FEAR OF THIS HAPPENING. im not better at things than anyone. i just pick things up faster. i was born like that. ask my mother, i started talking early, started walking early, started reading early. my mother tells me stories of me talking in the grocery store as a child and women coming up to her and asking how old i am because i looked way too small to be talking that way. through the years. my family has used the term "gifted", and i never understood what it meant until going out into the real world and seeing other people. it still struggle with that term cause i don't feel like im any different or gifted from anyone else. i just do shit and i do it to the best of my ability. why all the jealousy? i don't understand why i'm being made to feel ashamed for this? my brain doesn't shut off. it's not my fault. this isn't something i'm trying to do to people intentionally. i don't know what to tell anyone, some things just make sense to me that doesn't seem to make sense to anyone else, and there's a certain disconnect there between me and other people. i can't explain it. i can look at a computer just by sight and know exactly whats going on. i can look at a circuit and trace the flow of electricity with my eyes. this stuff just comes natural to me, i don't know why, but i am done apologizing for it because it makes other people feel insecure and ill equipped. im tired of being the measuring stick. im tired of being the blame target. the best thing that came out of all of that is that he outed himself to everyone. for one split second, the real him came out and everyone saw him in all his disgusting glory just how petty, and manipulative, and cruel and conniving he is. what a worm. no one had been exposed to that side of him before, but i lived with him for three years and i heard him shit talk every person on the planet, always making himself the victim, the drama queen, always somebody did this to "me". woe is me. it was exhausting and pathetic, but i shrugged it off because i simply wanted to play music and have a band. i just wanted to write songs. apparently, you have to bring your entire burden of bullshit with you into a band. i had not realized this. this was new ground for me. so at this point, the damage was done to him all by himself. i certainly didn't experience a crack on anything from my side of things. he yelled a lot of words at a brick wall, and felt better about himself for 5 minutes before going home and pissing in his pants. even if i did confront him in public and have words with him, it would be so completely pathetic that it would just be ugly. no one would want to see that. nothing would come from that. it would just be another turd in a sea of toilets flushing down the drain. but all the little lemmings of the internet had to have their bite of the pie and put in their witty quips, and stoke the fires, and point out the obvious, OH LOOK EVERYONE! WE'RE ALL MAKING OBSERVATIONS! YAAAAYY!! and none of them had anything better to do but goad it on and provoke more bullshit cause they just HAVE to have a comment. your un-importance is still a constant. thanks.
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