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afaimscorner · 2 years

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Legacies Finale

I guess the most frustrating thing about the Finale for me is that is so clear that the Landon Storyline was going to go somewhere, but now it just seems as if losing your empathy and humanity and feelings does not matter at all, because we got nothing. After 4x19 I was thinking that we might get Landon VS Hope in the Finale, but instead the choose to do an epilogue with nothing new (it’s neither the first time the school is about to be shut down, nor the first time that Alaric steps back as a headmaster) instead of doing an actual Finale.

The only thing that hit emotionally in this was the conclusion of the “Klaus finding Peace”-Storyline, which also gave Hope Peace, however everything else was just so underwhelming, even Caroline being back, because it’s not like that leads anywhere (plus now Josie is totally alone in Europe in boarding school, I guess?). And it’s not like she has proved at any point that she would be a better headmistress than Ric was headmaster, she spend four seasons not giving a shit about the school she founded or her own daughters, and now we are supposed to buy that she is the best fit for that job? I totally agree that Ric is probably not the best fit for that job, but the thing is that over the span of 4 Seasons they never presented us a character that would have been a better fit, so this storyline that swallows so much of this episode has nothing to it that makes it interesting or good.

And don’t get me started about that Josie Retcon, because sending a package does not make her not coming back and doing what she set out to be better, and dumping Finch like that is just a shitty move.

As for the rest: I mean, I know there were some Mizzie Shippers out there, but from what I gathered them getting together was not the main concerne of most of the fandom, which brings me to my main point, which is that thanks to The CW cancelling the show we again got a Series Finale, where the main heroine is doomed to eternal singledom, because appearantly having a boyfriend is anti-feminist, and while literally everyone else got to have their happy ending and a partner, the Wonder Woman of the Super Squad can’t have it all.

We are supposed to buy that she is happy now, but she isn’t, she has made peace with herself and her past, but she is not happy. She lost her surrogate father, said goodbye to the love of her life, who is likely to stop being able to lover her rather sooner than later, and had to watch all of her friend getting the person they love back from the dead (literally!), while her own boyfriend has to remain dead, so no, I am not buying that she is happy for a minute!

And if having a man in her life really would make her anti-feminist, they could at least have gone for the Hizzie- or Hosie-Endgame, but of course they did not, because like I said, they somehow got it into their brains that people wanted Mizzie to end up together and could not get a certain actress back for the Finale.

Maybe the only good thing that comes from the demise of The CW as a network for us actually is the fact that this attitude of “having a loving partner makes a feminist icone weak and we can’t have that!” will finally go away. And yes, I know for a fact, that this was not the ending they intended for Hope and that we propably would have gotten Handon-Endgame, if they would have gotten a notice ahead of time instead of beind canceled out of the blue, but that does not change the fact that this is the message that networks has given us in the last couple of years, and it’s appalling because male heroes get their happily ever after all that time on the same network, and what kind of message is that?

#Legacies #Legacies Season 4 #Just don't be a stranger okay?#Legacies Finale #Rant #Landon Kirby #hope mikaelson #alaric saltzman #josie saltzman #caroline forbes #klaus mikaelson #lizzie saltzman #milton greasley

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beepfuckingbeeprichie · 2 years

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Some of y’all are always like “let hope be a queer icon and date (insert female character)” as if she needs to be in a wlw relationship in order to be queer. She already is queer. It’s canon that she had a crush on Josie. Idk it’s just serving Biphobia to me

#me #mine #legacies #handon #landon kirby #hope mikaelson #lizzie saltzman #josie saltzman #i’m just saying #legacies season four #hizzie #hosie #legacies hosie

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comic-book-jawns · 2 years

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This parallel though…

#hizzie #hosie #legacies #hope mikaelson #lizzie saltzman #hope x lizzie #legacies 4x16 #josie saltzman #hope x josie #legacies 1x12 #legacies s4 #legacies season four #legacies season 4 #legacies spoilers

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hopemikaelsonismywife · 2 years

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Okay in terms of the latest legacies episode, I have a lot of thoughts on the Josie therapy box situation. So in the therapy box, when Hope and Josie talk, it was really interesting to me. First of all the thing with Alaric, Klaus and Hope all keeping the diagnosis a secret, I believe could be referencing Hope going by Marshal instead of Mikaelson. And when Josie says ‘you feel that pressure too and that pressure has caused you to lose your way’ I think is a really good point about Hope. She has so much pressure on her shoulders and she always has. Growing up she had the pressure of saving Klaus and then putting her family back together and then saving the school from monsters and then activating her vampire side to kill Malivore. She has always had this pressure to save everyone and it became expected of her. And it was put on her alone. So yes, she snapped and turned off her humanity and went down the wrong path like Josie says in the episode.

Also when Josie is talking to Ted and saying how Hope could save so many people when he’s worried what her cmd could do and how dangerous that could be shows two things. Firstly, it shows how she is the person that is supposed to save everyone’s life. And secondly, it shows the fear everyone has had that she could go down the wrong path and hurt people instead.

From a hosie standpoint, I believe it also shows that Josie doesn’t believe Hope could do that normally. That even now, she might not believe Hope would go fully dark. I also liked the comment from Lizzie about her drooling over Hope. And the whole thing being about Hope trying to save everyone and Josie trying to help Hope. Josie being the Protector and specifically Hope’s protector anyone?

I also wanted to mention the fact that Hope ‘going down the wrong path’ in the therapy box had her not telling anyone about her condition and running out of meds but doing a procedure anyway is a really good parallel to Hope in real life turning her humanity off and possibly doing something really bad. By turning her humanity off, she’s now very dangerous to everyone she wants to save.

My last point about the therapy box is about Lizzie, Ethan and MG. Like, hello did anybody else notice the three of them coming out of the room together. I love the idea of all three of them being in a relationship. I think it would be such a good idea if they do it but I also do not have a lot of faith in the writers to do it. But this feels like such a tease if they don’t.

#Legacies #legacies season four #legacies season 4 spoilers #legacies spoilers #hope mikaelson #josie saltzman #hosie #lizzie saltzman #mg #ethan #methizzie?#if anybody knows what their ship name is please let me know

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soboredimadeatumbl · 2 years

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I think its... interesting? to say the least? how Josie appeared in Lizzies therapy box storyline.

I mean, Lizzie KILLS Josie.

"Why did you make me go away?"

"You were already gone"

The way Lizzie sees it, Hope is to blame not only for Alarics impending death, but also for Josie being "already gone" to her. Out of Lizzies reach.

And we already knew that, to a degree. For example, Lizzie snaps briefly at Josie for "caring less about our father being in the hospital than about the person who put him there", but she doesnt lash out at her. She doesnt resent Josie, not in a way that directs her anger towards her. Its Hope she angry about, we knew that.

And i do feel that its a logical continuation for Lizzies anger to decide that its Hopes fault that Josie doesnt agree with her, that Josie isnt siding with Lizzie. Especially cause anger as an emotion doesnt require perfect logic, just an out, and putting all the blame on Hope makes sense when directing and dealing with all that turmoil Lizzie has inside of her (cause, lets be real, she has reasons for that: how many of us would keep our cool if our parent were basically murdered? and if despite our fears of other loved ones being next, everyone just overlooked the issue and kept planning to further put themselves in the way of the murderer? Lizzies first reaction to learning that Hope had been the one to attack Alaric wasnt "i will kill her", its was "our friends will go after her and she will kill them too". Her anger comes from the fear of just how easy it is for her to keep losing people, not from revenge as a first thought, which i think its important to note). I see how Lizzie would rationalize it into it being all Hopes fault.

What i did 100% NOT expect was Lizzie killing Josie.

"You were already gone"

Lizzies goal is to avenge Alaric and prevent his death. In the simulation he is awaiting execution, in reality he is half gone, in both Lizzie wants to prevent him from "fully dying". And by "siding" with Hope, Josie is in the way. And, in the simulation, Lizzie deals with this by killing Josie. And in doing so she reaches her goal and Alaric is saved.

I really REALLY hope this is full on foreshawing.

Do i think Lizzie would actually kill Josie? Not quite. Do i wanna see Lizzie throw everyone and everything under the bus thinking that avenging Alaric will solve the trauma? Absolutely. I really hope they explore that.

Maybe we will get heretic Lizzie out of it? I cant be the only one who can see this play out as

Lizzie goes after Hope, Josie interfieres cause she refuses to give up on Hope, Lizzie turns on Josie out of desperation, Hope kills Lizzie defending Josie

Both seeing Josie about to be fatally hurt and fatally hurting Lizzie should be enough of a trigger on their own to turn Hopes humanity back on, let alone both combined.

If they dont fire this chekhovs gun they placed in the therapy box imma be pretty pissed tbh

#legacies #legacies cw #legacies season 4 #legacies season four #tvd #hope mikaelson #josie saltzman #lizzie saltzman #hizzie #hosie

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starryprose · 2 years

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legacies hot take #3 (wow this should be a series)

josie x finch are cute but sometimes their chemistry is lacking. maybe it’s because we’ve seen josie with scene partners like penelope, rafael, and hope who deliver so much chemistry but there are certain josie x finch scenes that feel awkward to me. i do like them though!

i think the way the writers made finch be so so so supportive of josie though and then all of the sudden like walk away just to come back the next ep was…. weird? it seemed so out of the blue and made finch seem incredibly out of character. finch is a g o o d character. she’s caring, observant, and she constantly tries to put josie first. i’m a huge hosie shipper but i can’t lie and say that finch isn’t good for josie.

i just think the writers are so wishy washy in some scenes and i think josie has better chemistry with other characters but i still ship her and finch :)

#finsie #jonch #hosie #legacies #finsie legacies #jonch legacies #legacies cw #josie saltzman #finch tarrayo #josie x finch #finch x josie #legacies season four #tvd

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darkjosie · 3 years

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some stills from the new season.

LOOK HOW GOOD JOSIE LOOKS

#josie saltzman #legacies #cw legacies #hosie #kaylee bryant #hope mikaelson #legacies season four #legacies s4 #finch legacies

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thebisexualdogdad · 2 years

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Allydia, Barchie, Hosie, Delena, Scira.

1. Allydia they were in love and no one can tell me other wise

2. Scira I really loved Scott and Kira they were so cute together and if the writers weren't idiots for writing Kira out in season 6 they could have been endgame

3. Hosie I will always love hosie but it's lowering on my list of legacies ships and I feel like after season 2 they purposely gave them less scenes together to avoid more hosie speculation

4. Delena i liked Elena with Stefan better but I also didn't mind her with Damon I was more of a Katherine fan anyways lol

5. Barchie the core four just aren't for me, I don't care about any of the core four ships

#ask game

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aquariusshadow · 2 years

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Live!Blogging Legacies s4x8

okay so last week's episode got me really excited...don't let me down legacies

lessssss gooooooo

okay i really like this song

Dr. Josette Saltzman...aight

oh wait a minute

is this some fantasy thing

asdlfhasfdjasdfl

niiiiiiiiiiiice

i saw the painting

OH DUH THE THERAPY BOX THING

AJDHFLSDJF

WHAT

ALL THREE

ITS CANON IN THE THERAPY BOX

LIZZIE ETHAN MG

no mg honey yall didnt know how to properly bring hope back

only dark josie seemed to figure out something with it

yesssssss cleo and lizzie teaming up

srry im just mezmorized by how pretty hope is again dont mind me

so josie's therapy box focuses on hope's story

.........doctor!josie im sensing some fondness for doctor!hope

i really am loving The Originals vibe i'm getting with this scene with hope and the werewolf pack

ghdsflasjdahfsjdfalhsdf

Dr. Ted = Dr. Death

idk why this is so funny to me

oh geez we're gonna go down the "dick doctors think being a doctor means no emotions" trope again

oh god

i remember vera

ethan is mg's true clutch hehehe

E to Rescue Guy

the nicknames get longer and longer

oh my

Doctor!Landon

.......i'm really vibing with his look

ahahaha

its the hair

it has to be the hair

okay jesus

hope's the alpha pack leader now

this will be interesting

ngl while i really dont care about the Limbo scenes...there's something really funny about vera giving alaric so much shit

man i still can't believe we're dealing with any sort of m*zzie drama

four. seasons.

i'm sorry i'm just so over it

i really do like how cleo and mg are discussing pretty much everything

it's interesting seeing this dynamic

........well there goes their only weapon

woooooooooooooooa

holy shit

aurora

its been so long oh my god

i really need to rewatch s3 of the originals

oh christ the knife

i loveeee how we're bringing up these old plotlines

especially the hollow plotline

i thnk this is the first time where i'm actually liking the lizzie/ethan dynamic

like they aren't bullshitting each other

.....at least lizzie's honest with what she's planning on doing i'll give her that

okay i feel like i should know what that trident weapon is

it looks familiar

"It's because I don't want to see you hurt on those front lines" ahljfsdfhsjdfahsldjfasldf my methan heart

i love them so much your honor

gdi she gave him a memory

ive said it before and ill say it again

finsie are cute for what we have

................are they in different bodies?

daaaaaaang okay

thats gonna be interesting down the road

lizzie you deserve an oscar for that performance good lord

This episode was pretty interesting? But I felt like I was...waiting for something that didn’t quite happen? I suppose this was another build-up episode, though. Bringing back Aurora and doing the body swapping storyline is very bold and I’m looking forward to all the chaos that will bring! Man I need to rewatch s3+ of the Originals....

I am vibing a lot with the Hosie stuff we’re getting these past few episodes, Methan are adorable as usual, Finsie are also very cute although I feel like they’re gonna break up soon?

Honestly, right now, the two most compelling characters to watch are probably Tribrid!Hope and Lizzie. I can’t fully explain it right now but Lizzie’s approach to the Hope situation feels the most realistic for her character and it’s nice seeing someone take a different approach that’s causing it’s own brand of conflict and complexity.

#legacies #live!blogging legacies #legacies s4x8 #hope mikaelson #josie saltzman #lizzie saltzman #mg #milton greasley #ethan machado #finch tarrayo #aurora de martel #hosie #casual hosie fan okee #methan #ethan is mg's rescue guy #finsie #i really hope they handle finsie properly cuz i'm getting some vibes.....#i cant wait for lizzie and hope to face off #especially if its still aurora in hope's body

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alegacyofmonsters · 3 years

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Posted it on Instagram but I'll say it here too:

Anyone who's known me for more than five seconds knows I'm not very deep in the fandom discourse, but I do want to say:

First, Danielle Rose Russell shipping Handon does not mean in any way that you can't ship something else. Her calling Hizzie and Hosie sisterly and saying she only wants to do either of them "if it fits in the story" doesn't mean you can't ship it (and it also doesn't mean the writers and producers see it the same way). She's been calling Hope and Lizzie/Hope and Josie sisters since the very beginning. Don't let that change who you ship now. She doesn't write the show, and she definitely doesn't write your fics.

Second, Season 4 isn't even done being written yet. DRR, Kaylee, Jenny - no one has the complete Season 4 scripts in their hands (let alone 5, 6, 7). It's impossible for them to confirm or deny these things when they're only about three or four episodes into the season. We've been down this road before where things were taken wildly out of context and fans tried to make their own promises for upcoming content. Don't believe everything you read, especially when it's things that were supposedly said behind closed doors or based on arbitrary and vague "confirmations" by people who don't have all the info.

Bottom line is, whatever went down yesterday changes nothing. The same people who have been saying the same things for four years said the same things again. There's no need to cry in @laynemorgan 's Asks or in Legacies' Twitter mentions about it. Just keep shipping what you ship and don't worry about twisted rumors or what one actress's ship preference is or about your ship being "acknowledged" (spoiler alert: Handon, Hizzie, and Hosie have all been acknowledged by the cast and crew). Just be a fan.

#legacies #legacies cw #danielle rose russell #kaylee bryant #jenny boyd #quincy fouse #ben levin #hizzie #hosie #handon #legacies s4

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supercorp-hosie · 3 years

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My thoughts for legacies 3x13: I’ll try to put the point chronologically

1. When Kaleb blew the candle, I’m so confused because the first thing that comes to my head is: he’s blowing that because is daytime, but why put it so far from Cleo? Why use a candle when you have electricity? And apparently I’m a fool, because that’s how the confinement spell works duh! I only recalled that when Alaric blew it in the end. I’m so dumb lol.

2. I love that Kaleb is the first to seek Cleo out, wanted answers and ready to accept them. When he tries to comfort Cleo in her memories, that’s me too! But apparently being the badass she is, she immediately come up with the idea of replacing her grandma to go with Malivore.

3. Poor Cleo! My heart sores when it started with a little girl, just like with Finch. She’s a hero! She’s so brave! She’s a queen! And weirdly she likes frogs(or toads?) very much. I wonder why. And although she tried to kill Hope last episode, I never see her as a villain. Never for a second. Instead I’m impressed. Tbh I didn’t understand why she is always playing with clay/mud since the beginning of this episode. But after her backstory, I just feel sad and proud at the same time. Sad because it’s shaped from her painful time of enslavement. Proud because she’s using the thing she learned from it against Malivore as her weapon despite the painfulness. I remember she talked about her sister dying, but nothing about that occurs in the memories. Did she lie before or it’s just another thing that the writers forgot?

4. ‘Jonch’ is horrible! I prefer Finsie as the ship name. Why is their moment always so cringy? I get this second embarrassment from them a lot, mostly from Josie tho. I always felt there’s something lacking in Finsie, just like what I felt when Handon started it’s kind of sudden. Maybe because of my perception, I really didn’t know why Josie think Finch is hot. I have to learn how to appreciate her beauty. But goof news, I actually appreciated Finsie first kiss, because I see why they haven’t kiss before, and why they finally kiss. It’s cute and the sparkling, haha. Tbh I start to appreciate Finch’s beauty from the kissing scene angle. But this episode, again, I still feel cringy in most of the Finsie scenes. I have to put my palm on my head. Anyway, I enjoy the “girlfriend” scene tho, like Finsie starting to grow on me(again, the first time is their first kiss, hopefully no more cringy afterwards). It’s really good to see Josie happy. Btw, since Finch decided to enrol, will she be the new alpha now that she defeated Jed? That’s good for her, she finally has a pack and no longer lonely.

5. Along with Finsie scenes, does anyone realise there’s actually other students there? And there are actually other witches at the school?? I remembered that there’s like only four witches? Because Josie was the only witch at the school when Berbelang!Hope happened? Annnndddd! To that! Does anyone remember there’s this girl Gaby/Gabby? She’s also a witch, and she loves dnd like Wade? They can’t tease us with Penelope using her then just let her disappear?

6. Oh great there’s actually other wolves at the school. I’m starting to think Jed is the only wolf left (of course there’s Hope, but she’s tribrid). As much as I enjoy Finch being badass that she can stand beside Josie, I felt so sorry for Jed and his actor. He’s been there for 3 seasons and yet Finch get a backstory before him. He has none! The actor is great, look at the siren episode! He hardly gets any decent lines and scenes now. Instead, they make him looked useless, hard to be respectable. Like anyone can just harm his alpha reputation. Justice for Jed please. Oh and the fact that Finch got a backstory before Kaleb too? It’s unacceptable. They deserve more. Jed doesn’t even have a last name, my god! Anyway that doesn’t change the fact that I want to hug baby Finch so much bc she’s adorable!

7. With MG gone, Kaleb looks like the only vampire left in the school. I miss MG. What about Ethan?

8. Josie and Cleo finally met! I’m glad that she’s learned something from her too. I think it’s true that other kids never felt as easy as Josie at the school. They finally addressed it.

9. I’m frustrated that Hope never wanted answers from Cleo. The only friend that helped her grieve. But hey maybe she’s too hurt to be able to bear Cleo in her sight. But then again there’s the Landon problem, so she’s off with Landon again. Only taking to Landon the whole episode, being the only one that only talk to one person in the whole episode. Feel bad for her about this. Poor Hope.

10. I really feel bad for Landon, because there’s a lot of hardships to make him like that. Someone please give him hugs and a therapist. The show is doing a full cycle by stating what he’d done is just like what Hope did when she returned from Malivore. I understand why he kept himself away, but weirdly, the way the let those words out, it feels like he wants to get back at Hope when I think he wanted Hope’s understanding. Maybe he wanted both?

12. Someone told me that every 13th episode is the episode where Landon’s power are explored. I kind of agree with it now. Because he’s finally having the fighting skills that he’s longing now. Finally he can achieve his desires to physically fight alongside Hope. For what though, I don’t know, because in the case of supercorp, Lena never needed it physically to be Supergirl’s partner in saving the world, or of course to protect Kara. Glad for him, anyway, bc that’s what’s he wants. And the blow to the head? It’s awesome.

11. I can’t believe Landon is blaming Hope for not coming to save him sooner?! What the hell? What happened to “I’m going to be the one that always fight to find Hope”, idk whether I quoted it precisely, but the meaning is there. I am furious. Is this some sick drama that the show wants Landon to think that Hope was not coming to him because she had a perfect version of him?? That aside, when I see that Handon is going to fight together physically, I actually think the scene is good and they will overcome the blaming thing, and going to be a power couple. Just when I have that thought, Landon have to fucking throw the artifact towards Malivore(whether it is Malivore I’ll discuss afterwards, it’s contradictory)!! That’s such a stupid move! Where’s your brain? And it’s broken, oh god. And the show have to show Hope being so weak during the fight. I mean why? She’s a badass, why do they have to make her weak to glorify Landon?? They made her look useless. These things just really kill the budding Handon spirit in me. The show really knows how to make people resent Handon and Landon. Just please change the show name.

12. Anyway to be fair, Landon do care for Hope and do love her. Before, though I don’t think they are endgame quality, I think that if they do improve, Handon endgame is tolerable, acceptable. But now, I’m not so sure of that anymore. Other than the above mentioned points, Landon did leave Hope for a solid third time. Why the show have to establish that for Handon when their fans desperately defended Landon that he wasn’t always leaving. I mean I’ve seen Handon shippers fought really hard against the “Landon is always leaving Hope” argument. What a way to make a couple being endgame. In Chinese proverbs, there’s a thing for a third time. Like the three strikes law, I think? It says not to do anything or tolerate anything undesirable that has happened more than three times. So please do not make Handon together ever again. It’s an insult to Hope too.

13. To see it differently, poor Hope will finally have time out of Landon to think of herself and her future. We need to see her having her own storyline. So maybe we can see Hosie eventually? Sorry Finsie for anticipating your break up in the future. But please enjoy yourselves when Hope grows on her own, because Josie deserves a decent relationship on screen too. Hosie didn’t interact this episode, I’m sad.

14. I just can’t help but wonder why Alaric oversee the artifact being destroyed so easily. And when Josie introduces Finch, she deserves a decent conversation with the headmaster, really. Oh he’s an adult, be a responsible and respectable one, especially you’re Josie dad. Help her with her impression with her crush. Alaric really need help, we need another adult figure. It’s okay that’s not Caroline.

15. I kind of thinking that Landon and Cleo are shippable too when I know that they are leaving at the same time. Cleo being the sole reason to Landon existence is one of the reasons to ship them. She’s the one that tell Malivore he can make vessels and create legacy, that leads to Landon existing. Not to mention she did literally made Golem Landon by hand (we all know the thing that Hope made doesn’t have a body, so Cleo must have made his torso and limps right). Or maybe we prefer wandon endgame? Wade is precious too, he’s the one that point out Landon is not himself.

16. I’m so confused by this episode Malivore. I thought Cleo trapped him inside that monster Handon defeated this episode. But if it was trapped this long? How did the pit, Clarke and Landon even exist? Did Malivore escape from it?? It must have escaped.

17. In the promo for the next episode, we’re seeing Lizzie and Hosie interaction! I’m excited! I think maybe Josie will be the one that bring Hope out of the cult’s enchantment. What will happen? Maybe they will realise something or develop something towards each other? Anything hosie that MAKE SENSE please. Oh and Hizzie friendship/banters, and Lizzie suddenly being and “angel” will be so fun to watch. Finally, the trio!

18. I know it’s irrelevant but since I mentioned Clarke, I miss Holarke. I have some shippable thoughts about Finch and Penelope too. P is the she-devil in good girl attire; F looks like a bad girl but she’s good hearted. They are both fiery, imagine what they’ll be like when they’re together, erupting volcanoes?

19. Applause to Aria’s acting skill, this is like the eleventh role he’s played in legacies? Original Landon, Hope’s (subconscious) Landon, Landon’s (subconscious) Landon, Josie’s SimuLandon, Hope’s therapy Landon, Malivore Landon, golem Landon, ptsd Landon, oni-possessed Landon, golem Landon micmicking Necromancer, Clarke-Landon. Keep up the good work!

#hosie #finsie #jonch #legacies #legacies spoilers #kaleb legacies #jed legacies #cleo sowande #josie saltzman #finch tarrayo #alaric saltzman #hope mikaelson #landon kirby #holarke #aria shahghasemi #handonedit #wade legacies #justice for Jed #justice for kaleb

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handonhaven · 3 years

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Aye bestie❤cause ur opinion comforts and claims me❤..

So you must have seen Danielle interview by now and already the hosie's b twisting it up , Dani said "You know, it's complicated. My personal feelings obviously are very different from how Hope feels", the hosie's twisting it up saying that Danielle hates handon and putting words in her mouth she and hope are two different person so obviously she's gonna have a different feeling or opinion, it keeps getting to me tho maybe shes tired of them to how she was speaking ion know but until Danielle confirms she hates them am not gonna let it get to me.

She didn't say much about handon this season more than there short of endgame material, she also said they are gonna be separated for awhile mainly because they both need growth and time to heal which is true . I really wanna see landon storyline this season and how he handles his trauma and I want hope to help him but they gonna separat them for a while, am gonna cry so hard for landon am also excited to see hopes storyline as well and how she handles her tribid side and i heard she's gonna push away her friends and landon or anybody shes close to. Do u think both hope and landon gonna push away each other and in the end they will they be okay and be stronger or closer?? Am excited to see and also scared.

Aww really? 🥺❤️ I‘m so glad to hear that! I don’t comfort myself at all. 😂 Yes I did see the interview but I’m avoiding H*sies, though I can imagine what they’re saying. Yeah, idk what Danielle meant by that, but I’m trying not to assume too much, and H*sies should do the same. I’d hope Danielle doesn’t hate Handon but maybe she does want a break from Handon stuff idk. And yes, she said both good things and bad things about Handon. I’m glad that she talked about them being endgame, but I’m obviously very unhappy about a separation. I just don’t agree with the idea that they need to be apart to grow and heal individually. Like what kind of message does that send about relationships? That you can’t work through things together? Or support each other with your own individual challenges? When things get rough you’ve gotta go your separate ways and deal with stuff on your own before you can be together again? Which is the opposite of how Hope and Landon’s relationship has always been? That doesn’t necessarily send a good message, people can absolutely grow and heal individually together. I mean, what do people think happens with married couples? That they never grow or progress ever again? It’s ridiculous and it would be great if, for once, a tv show would actually show a couple realistically getting through challenges together throughout the course of the series without separating them. And especially in this case, when Hope and Landon have always fought for each other and would need each other more than ever, it just makes absolutely no sense to me. And also almost makes all of season 3 and them fighting to get back to each other kinda for nothing?

But anyway, I really wanna see Landon’s storyline too but I fear for what they’re gonna do regarding his trauma. I’m worried it’s gonna be handled badly (if it’s even handled at all) especially if they’re not gonna have Hope helping him. It’s unbelievable tbh, I’ll be crying too. Hope’s storyline could be interesting as well with her most likely being a full tribrid. And I’d think her pushing her friends away would make sense, but her pushing Landon away would make no sense. I sure hope that Hope and Landon don’t push each other away, why would they do that after all they’ve been through? I can’t think of any good reason. But I hope whatever happens, they’ll still end up being stronger and closer eventually. I’m glad you’re excited, I wish I was, but I’m mostly just scared. I’m hoping it won’t be as bad as I’m thinking it will be. If the real changes happen starting in 4x05, maybe we’ll still get a lot of great Handon stuff in the next four episodes, if anything.

#answered #handon #spoilers #legacies spoilers #s4

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hosiesmunchkins · 3 years

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As season four arrives I don’t really know what to say because it’s a perplexing situation for me. I think I’m not going to go all emotionally in on hosie this time around because when I hoped for hosie last year it only hurt me. Ofc I got some really amazing chemistry moments between them but then again I was upset to not see them interact in every two or three episodes. Their dynamic is going good according to me. This time around I will be rational with my feelings of wanting a hosie endgame. Because I don’t want to be hurt again. At the same time I won’t stop shipping them. Because I don’t really know what to expect from the show. This is a new season. There are going to be new challenges.

Let’s see what they have in store.

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hopemikaelsonismywife · 2 years

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Okay I just finished the new legacies episode and I don’t even know where to start. So much happened. First of all, Kaylee leaving. I just found out about this after the episode and I’m so sad about it. I saw the theories but I didn’t believe it. I love Josie and Kaylee and I’m going to miss Kaylee on the show so much. I hope things go well for her, though.

The next thing I want to discuss is Aurora in Hope’s body not knowing how to use her magic was a really nice touch. I actually really loved Lizzie in this episode. I loved the scene in that restaurant and her double crossing Aurora and everything she said to Hope. I really liked those scenes. I knew Hope hadn’t turned her humanity back on. Her reaction was way too mild to have just turned it back on. The ‘making me love you’ line, I almost screamed. I love hosie yes but I would not be opposed to hizzie happening. I really saw it this episode. Hosie is still my favourite ship but i see the chemistry. I saw that scene. I have always preferred the idea of them as best friends but like if it happened I would not be mad.

Josie leaving and breaking up with Finch to go after Hope made my hosie heart way too happy. That bubble quickly broke when she bought a sedcond ticket. Although I did really like the way Finch was this episode with Josie. I felt bad for her. But Josie wearing the necklace from Hope was amazing. I loved that getting brought back. We haven’t seen that since that episode. Kaylee leaving can’t mean no more Josie until the end of the season, right? Because she left to go and save Hope. So her not coming back doesn’t make sense to the story. My theory is that after Hope’s humanity is back on, we’ll see Josie leave. The executive producers said that the door is always open so she probably won’t die, although her

I’m glad Hope is back in her body. I’m not a huge fan of body swapping. However, I do want to see more of Aurora. I really like her as a villain. I also hope her being introduced means Hope learns more about her family history because Klaus had a lot of enemies. The whole family did. She needs to know about her own history yet alone the rest of her family’s.

Right, onto the big thing of the episode (minus Kaylee leaving), Lizzie oh my fucking gods. Hope actually killed her. I can’t believe she actually killed her. I screamed. I’m still in shock. Lizzie is in transition. She’s going to be a heretic. I am so excited for this, you have no idea. And based on the promo, her and Hope are going to team up by the looks of it or at least having screen time together doing something that doesn’t seem to be fighting. And her scene with Josie just I can’t so many feels that broke my heart I love them and I love their relationship and how much it’s developed. And when Josie could feel that something was wrong was just so sad.

I also want to point out that if Lizzie is a heretic now then that means the Merge is no longer an issue right? Which means Caroline no longer has an excuse to be away from the school so I wonder how they’re going to explain it now. Also, Lizzie becoming a vampire and Caroline not coming back would make absolutely no sense for Caroline’[s character but I know she can’t come back because Candice doesn’t want to come back. So I’m just really wondering how they’re going to deal with all of that.

These are just my primary thoughts on the episode but so much happened so I’ll probably talk about it some more later. Right now I’m just going to scream into a pillow for a bit because I am still freaking out over this whole episode. It was such a good episode. The whole Lizzie, Hope and Aurora plot was amazing.

#Legacies #legacies spoilers #legacies season four #legacies season 4 spoilers #hope mikaelson #lizzie saltzman #josie saltzman #caroline forbes #no humanity hope #tribrid hope #heretic lizzie #hosie #hizzie #aurora de martel #04x09

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