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agentrouka-blog · 2 years
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Do you think ASOIAF is still going to end with Bran on the throne? I kind of find that so incredibly disingenuous. I was so sure pre-GOT Ending that the 7K would all go back to being independent states, since the Targs "unified" (saying this sarcastically) Westeros, and ASOIAF is obviously going to end with the Targs dying out. So it wouldn't make sense to me to still keep that Targ symbolism (the IT and unification of Westeros) intact.
Also, I find such an ending racist. The North is obviously going to secede with Sansa as queen ... But everything that the North wants to be, is what Dorne is. And then Dorne is not going to secede (they're already halfway there anyways) and accept a Stark overlord? There is no way in Hell I see that happening. Dorne has suffered the most from the Targs and has rejected them the most and deserve the independence they have always fought for the most, but they are the ones that are not going to secede? No way.
ASOIAF should end with the full eradication of the Targaryens, the 7K all becoming independent like before, the IT destroyed, and Bran the new Bloodraven overseeing the continent as a tree or whatever. But the North only seceding and another Stark ruling over the rest of the continent? That's just blatant favoritism not to mention an unsatisfactory ending to characters (the Dornish) that have nothing to do with the Starks.
Hi there!
I've made a few post on the subject of what I think the King Bran endgame will be.
Great Council and Harrenhal
Harrenhal and the Starks
Bran the Loophole King by a Lake
Arya prepares Harrenhal
Who stays and who goes independent?
How boy king Bran might work
Bran as a human king not a greenseer
Essentially I think the show ending is a very strongly altered version of it - to the point of absolute absurdity. It feels like they dedicated less time to the political restructuring of Westeros than they did to Tyrion shuffling chairs around before that travesty of a small council meeting. It's nonsense. They didn't care about their ending. Neither should we.
To make my predictions brief: Bran absolutely and definitely will give up his powers in the course of resolving the ice threat. There is absolutely NO way GRRM would place some kind of surveilance godking on a throne and call it a "bittersweet ending". Anyway, KL is done, no more Iron Throne. A Great Council is held to decide the future of Westeros (Congress of Vienna-style but better). They elect a new king (hereditary or electoral, who knows) and the new model of monarchy is likely to be at least somewhat parliamentary with Bran as a figurehead - an intentionally weak figure head! - based on his maternal ancestry line (Tully-Whent) and its connection to Harrenhal, where this new ruling body will be situated.
Very likely Tyrion may be involved in machinations that will raise Bran to the throne, sway the election in his favor in some way. (Foreshadowed by him providing the design for a special saddle for Bran - a special "seat".) His actual endgame will follow after and it will not be happy.
I would be immensely surprised if Dorne did not reestablish independence the same as the North.
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warsofasoiaf · 1 year
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while it makes sense in OTL for robert to keep his family name, as the targs lost their right to rule and it represents a new start / renewed feudal contract, lets say before all the harrenhal /. brandon stark stuff, Aerys does a summerhall 2.0 and gets most if not all his family killed. a great council is called, and robert has the closest blood claim through grandmother so is elected...does he keep baratheon or switch to targ? and broader question...when is it appropaite to take new name vs keeping previous family name?
I don't think so. For one, even after Jace is named Rhaenyra's heir, he keeps the Velaryon family name, he never changes it. The scenario I posited before with Aenys Blackfyre has unique social context that wouldn't be present in this scenario. Moreover, with two disastrous Summerhalls in a relatively short span of time, it might be considered a bit more auspicious to keep the Baratheon name rather than change it.
Thanks for the question, Anon.
SomethingLikeALawyer, Hand of the King
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mebssann · 1 year
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Amity pestered Principal Bump enough times that he finally allowed Hexside to have a student council
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vinillain · 4 months
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I’m so excited for all of them s4
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Bug eye creatures
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muffinlance · 8 months
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Tiny Baby, repeatedly getting her foot stuck in a fold of her high chair's fabric: *distressed noises*
Me: And suffering will be your teacher
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marveltournaments · 4 months
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wonder-worker · 5 months
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something I find especially entertaining about Edward IV's reign is how Scandalous™ it was lol
he married a woman “whose origins broke all established conventions for English queenship” in a secret ceremony without consulting any of his lords and then made it everyone else's problem. he committed regicide, he committed fratricide; he was accused of bastardry, he was accused of bigamy and a 19-year-long sham marriage, he was accused of using necromancy against his subjects, he was accused of being enchanted by witchcraft by both his wife and his mother-in-law (multiple times). his own mother was said to "rule the king as she pleased" in the early years of his reign. he knew he was hot and actively milked it for money. he was vain as fuck: “he was wont to show himself to those who wished to watch him, and he seized any opportunity that the occasion offered of revealing his fine stature to onlookers”. he knew everything about everyone. "he was more favourable than other princes to foreigners". he was “fond of boon companionship, vanities, debauchery, extravagance and sensual enjoyments”; he was "thought to have indulged in his passions and desires too intemperately”; "it was ever feared he was not chaste”. his subjects publicly gossiped about his sex life, his doctors thought he was insane. NOBODY understood how he was still competent despite all this.
honestly, who was doing it like him?
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infinitestalia · 1 year
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Do you think Alice's motivations for putting her son on the throne are valid? both in the book and in the series?
Motivations, yes, consequences of those motivations and actions, no. Nothing justifies the outcome on either side, neither are the good guys, but her reasons are more valid and interesting to me than the Blacks.
It's not that there's no power seeking in it, especially in the book, but Aegon is the male heir, by law he should sit on the throne- if Viserys' bitch ass didn't want that, why exactly did he remarry and impregnate a teenager? If law doesn't matter, why are we taking any Targaryen claim or succession seriously? Her children's lives are at stake no matter what anyone says, their existence is a threat to the Blacks and Daemon would see to it that they be killed one way or another, so none of the lords can turn to Viserys' sons as heirs.
Because Rhaenyra is incapable of discretion or any sense of responsibility, she brazenly pops out clear bastard after bastard (offering marriage for Helaena is only to protect herself and her illegitimate kids) and commits high treason by passing them off as heirs. Even if Alicent and co never wanted to touch the throne, a new crisis would break out at some point based on that alone, with Aegon being pushed for king, and both sides know it. They're not gonna silently sit and watch a bastard take the throne dfkm. He was never legitimised, as fans like to bizzarely say, because he was never acknowledged as a bastard but falsely called the trueborn heir. Thanks to Viserys' inaction and ineptitude, there is no scenario where war does not break out or Alicent's children aren't straight up killed, so how can you not understand her?
And even without all this, even if her motivation was pure spite, why not. The show's prophecy miscommunication was nonsensical, that motivation is not valid at ALL and was a spineless cop out. She should have spat in whatever was remaining of Viserys' mouldy eye socket and told him she'd crown Aegon if only for his years of neglect of the children he forced on her. Aemond was mutilated and not only were there no consequences whatsoever (not even an apology), Rhaenyra asked for him to be tortured and Viserys cared more that his bastard grandkids had been called bastards, then his son- Alicent's son- being permanently disfigured. (The fact that the show has Alicent forget/forgive that after the time jump is so insane). There was no clearer writing on the wall as to what would become of her and her children than that moment. That should have been framed as the night where war after Viserys' death became a bitter inevitability and every fear Alicent ever had was confirmed, becoming all the motivation she needed.
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visenyaism · 10 months
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My third eye was PRIED OPEN by Otto/Fem!Viserys. It would be insane. Trying to picture it is like sipping from Dionysus‘ cup when he’s about to declare Bacchanalia. But most importantly… the return of Otto #HerStory Hightower, new and improved. Otto… #WifeGuy Hightower.
wife guy otto hightower vs. wife guy king consort corlys vs. even more of a psychosexually weird serial killer daemon the small council is so over. viserra being alright just building lego valyria and having no responsibilities other than court in king’s landing while her crazy ambitious husband and crazier little brother who’s obsessed with her keep trying have each other killed in increasingly elaborate destructive ways. this does not stop dragonrider alicent hightower and rhaenyra royce from eloping. i could go on
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bluegumballmf · 4 days
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recent screenshot edits aaaa
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And the bases
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padawansuggest · 8 months
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You know what this series got me wanting? Mandalorian-Jedi AU where Ezra is suddenly a little brother when Ahsoka comes back to the temple one day with Sabine all ‘she’s not force sensitive but she’s awesome and bit Master Krell really good so I like her’ and Hera, the temple pilot who’s dating Caleb Dume is all ‘that’s a good one can I adopt that one???’ And doesn’t wait for an answer before that’s her new baby and now Ezra is a baby brother and had someone to run off to whenever a new litter of lothkittens are born.
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fallenlondonnpcfight · 7 months
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Nothing to Lose But Your Chains
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December art by @anomalouscorvid
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warsofasoiaf · 1 year
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bouncin off those previous asks, obv bloodraven doesnt let it happen but lets say maekar's ghost bonked him on the head beforehand, does / could aenys stand a real chance against the weaker candidates presented in the great council? maybe "i will dismantle the police state, divert crown resources to aid to rebuilding from previous crises, promise an end to the blackfyre wars, the golden company will become a royal army dedicated to directly protecting future raids" and would they take targ name?
The issue with that is that I think Aegon V would be offering much the same thing re: Bloodraven's police state particularly because he saw how the brutality that Bloodraven's policy fell on the smallfolk. I'm not sure Westeros has the bureaucratic structure necessary to fund a professional standing army with regular pay and facilities, and so if the Golden Company does have ties to Westeros, it would probably be in signing on to friendly Free Cities in Essos to advance Westerosi interests.
I think the Great Council would elect to not pursue legitimization of the full Blackfyre line in the interest of not reopening old wounds ala the aftermath of the Dance. Rather, the Council would instead acclaim Aenys by the power vested within the Great Council regarding succession and have him take on the Targaryen name, almost like an adoption by acclaim and assent. I admit, this might be a little bizarre because we don't really see this sort of thing happen in non-marriage scenarios (Joffrey Lydden becoming King Joffrey Lannister), but that's the closest Westerosi precedent I can think of. I don't think that would transform Westeros into an electoral monarchy, because Great Councils still seem like an emergency situation, rather than one that is called every matter of succession.
So the real question is whether Aegon's "half-a-peasant" nature would be more off-putting that Aenys's Blackfyre heritage. Making matters worse, what kind of guy is Aenys? Is he charming or is his nature off-putting? Does he have a strong handle on Westerosi customs and traditions or does he carry himself more with the Essosi style? What is his policy idea? How would he handle the nature of the Blackfyre exiles? What are his domestic and foreign policy priorities? If he's unmarried, who will he select as his Queen-Consort?
I'm not saying it's impossible, he'd almost certainly beat out Maegor Brightflame and Vaella, daughter of Daeron the Drunk. I'm just saying we know absolutely nothing about Aenys, so we have no idea whether or not he'd appeal to the lords assembled at the Great Council, what factions would support him or oppose him. Bloodraven seems to think that there's a large enough Blackfyre loyalist camp to warrant murdering Aenys, but Bloodraven is defined by paranoid overreaction and a willingness to do whatever he thinks is necessary regardless of the consequences, so it's not like he's a rational judge.
Thanks for the question, Anon.
SomethingLikeALawyer, Hand of the King
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daenystheedreamer · 2 months
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daenys made her prophecy as a maiden, aged eleven, and it took nearly too long to convince her father. they leave in 114 BC, when she is just thirteen, and she is wed to her brother gaemon soon after in order to lift their spirits and celebrate their new beginning. gaemon is nineteen. she fell pregnant with aegon soon after, and she named him for iron so he could be her strength. he is born on her fourteenth nameday. elaena was soon after, and with only fifteen years of a gap between them she felt more like a little sister than her own daugher. a few years without pregnancies, they're not easy on her body and the dragon dreams get worse. aenys is born when she is eighteen, and he is dead by her nineteenth nameday. daemon is born blue and without breath as valyria is doomed. daenys nearly dies that night, and gaemon can no longer look his wife in the eye. elaena is eleven when daenys' third child is born and gaemon lets her pick the child's name; daena, after her mother, and asks for daenys to have another son so daena will have someone to marry. aelora, helaena and rhaella all die before their third nameday. another boy, aenar, is born during the mourning of the death of his namesake. gaemon is glad their father lived long enough to see aegon and elaena wed. little aenar does not survive the winter.
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vinillain · 6 days
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Wakfu S4- The Great wave
Something I find really sweet is how Yugo now carries the dofus of his little brothers in him like the Goddess Eliatrope carries their people 😭😭
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Like it’s not the exact same but the parallels of power and having to protect what is essentially your family and future is CRAZYYY
Eliatrope with her children that the necromes seek to consume for power and Yugo with the dofus (holding his little brothers and sisters) that the council wish to take to gain/rid him of power
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I hope we get some more tender moments in the manga of him reflecting with the dofus and the little brothers and sisters who sleep inside them. A nightmare where they are taken for him to wake up and hold his heart to see if they are still there.
He lost much of the family he just gained in s4, and now he holds them metaphorically and quite literally in/as his heart. He can’t search for his family anymore, he has to make it himself. And he has to protect his loved ones in order to do so. (As he is now the only one to represent his people and stand in as the true leader/king)
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I could do an essay on the paralells between these two (aswell as Nora and Qilby) but these two especially make me insane. They are driven by their love for their family, blood or not. The pure hearted naivety and genuine love to make the world a better place. And the difference and similarities because of their trauma. (It’s not said enough but if Oropo hadn’t been there for Yugo in episode 9-10 he really might have ended up becoming just as traumatized as Eliatrope is.)
And they way he is literally her heart, her feelings of love. As his people are to him. (Reminds me of Toross’s “I like to keep the things I love close, it’s not practical but it works for me” line)
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I will sing the praises of the Eliatrope-Yugo parallels for the rest of my life they are literally my everything. (I hope we get a scene in the manga of Yugo going to space with the dofus to look for her in a moment of weakness….)
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fkaluis · 2 years
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“Rhaenys, a woman, would not inherit The Iron Throne.”
House Of The Dragon, Episode One
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