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jeena-says-hi · 9 months
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Best part of the new Hamster and Gretel episodes
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paul-the-delivery-guy · 3 months
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I've heard people speculate that Dave and Carolina have known about Hamster and Gretel being superheroes all along. Now, assuming this is true, the question is, why do they know? Here's what I think: It's not some big conspiratorial reason.
The parents know because the aliens had to have them sign permission forms before giving their daughter superpowers. The reason Dave and Carolina haven't said anything is because it's funny watching their kids try to keep it a secret. This would be a truly hysterical plot twist.
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Oh Nordle is Messed Up messed up.
It just kept getting worse. Professor Exclamation is a horrible parent. Which was obvious from the beginning but it just kept getting worse. He put on an act of normal nice parent, but he's constantly putting down Nordle and he's just accepted it. Like Nordle doesn't even feel insulted.
This would be his villain origin story if he wasn't rebelling from his villainous dad. I don't know what's worse. Professor Exclamation acting like he loves Nordle while constantly putting him down, or Doofensmirtz's parents not even bothering to pretend. I believe Professor Exclamation believes he loves his son, but that doesn't mean he DOES.
Also Professor Exclamation keeps referencing this Industrial accident that took his elbows. But he had to be pretty terrible before that too if he's been raising his son the way he has. Was the industrial accident just a convenient excuse to get into crime?
I was kind of worried that Tobor would be a worse off Norm, but unlike Norm who is still fighting for Doof to recognize him as a son, Tobor has been now recognized as Nordle's parental figure. Which is a relief. Nordle probably modeled the way he treated Tobor from his father. So he's continuing to break the cycle but this poor child.
Speaking of which where is this kids mother? How exactly does she fit into this mess? She's got to be a bad mother if this is happening, but like how bad?
Also while Nordle needs Help, he should not be getting that help from a fellow elementary student. Gretel is in in over her head. Gretel feels obligated to help Nordle, and while they are genuinely friends, Gretel should not have to take on the entire burden of helping Nordle work out his family issues. And his villainous upbringing. While also secretly being his father's greatest enemy. This will not end well. Most of these Nordle plotlines are falling on Gretel's shoulder alone. She needs more than Bailey's help.
I would NOT be surprised if Nordle doesn't take the reveal well if only because one of the few people who supported him was very likely only his friend to get at his dad.
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cipherinator · 11 months
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I think they should make an among us reference in the new Hamster and Gretel.
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glitter50000 · 1 year
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Dwampyverse humor my beloved
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thechaseofspades · 1 year
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1, 11, 13 for launchpad mayhaps?
1. My first impression of them
I was big into Darkwing Duck as a kid, and I knew Launchpad was in the original Ducktales but I had never seen it before. I'm sure others who were more familiar with DT87 got this feeling every time somebody showed up on screen, but for me it was just LP (and eventually Darkwing).
"OH MY GOD YEEEESSSSS" *several minutes of excited noises*
Something like that.
As far as I know, his DT87 and DWD interpretations are pretty different to fit their respective tone and role, and DT17 was closer to DT87 than DWD, so that took a bit of getting used to. DWD Launchpad was still not the smartest, but he was often pretty clever with his one-liners, and he knew how to fly a plane without crashing. But once I made the adjustment, it worked out.
11. What’s the first thing you think about when thinking about the character?
"Family truly is the greatest adventure of OH NO THE GROUND"
13. Your favorite friendship they have
I mean, is it really a contest? Drake Mallard all the way. Shoutout to Dewey for making a great Duckburg friend, and I'd definitely count him as an honorary member of Team DW, but Drake and LP are just so adorable together. Just a couple of nerds who loved the original Darkwing, and want to see the spirit of the character live on. They're just like me fr
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Thanks for the ask!
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fishing-for-rivers · 8 months
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Uncles night (WIP)
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Fuck it, starting over the previous work in progress because it was way too static
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Hot take but you can criticize a company taking a show off (especially ones that have good lgbtq rep) without shitting on the other shows that remain Mkay?
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Just sitting here and I'm thinking about a Hamster and Gretel + WordGirl crossover :0
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dooffirmations · 2 years
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SCREAMING AND CRYING OVER THE FRED CENTRIC EPISODE
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howdoyoudothedew · 6 months
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it would be genuinely so funny to me if this is the only pnf in hamster and gretel
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jeena-says-hi · 1 year
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Random pics of Hamster because I love him
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paul-the-delivery-guy · 3 months
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Another Doggone Hamster and Gretel theory.
Y'know, Churro the dog from Hamster and Gretel is portrayed as extremely stupid. Loveable, but stupid.
And yet... and yet, in the episode "Churro's Day Out," this really dimwitted dog was able to find his family all the way across town? How? Did he just happen to cross paths with them after mindlessly wondering across town, or was he actively tracking them the whole time?
Is Churro actually as dumb as he is made to look, or is his dimwittedness all a guise?
Y'know, I seem to remember him popping out of the cabinet under the sink in "Abuelita's World." What was he doing under there? Did he just stupidly wonder in there? I seem to remember on another cartoon, there was a certain pet platypus that regularly entered and exited your average, everyday funtiture.
Maybe Hamster and Gretel aren't the only ones in the Grant-Gomez family with secret identities. What if...
🎵 Dooby dooby doo-bah dooby dooby doo-bah dooby dooby doo-bah dooby dooby doo-bah. Churro! 🎶
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a34trgv2 · 6 months
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The Problem With Animated Shows Today
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I shouldn't have to make a post like this because I know there's so much more animated content now than there was when I was a kid. Yet for the better part of a year, I've sat through one abysmal failure of a cartoon after the other, and I just can't stand it anymore. I'm aware the title might come off as pretentious, but rest assured I'm not a pretentious person nor to I view this post as objective fact. I'm just here expressing the common problems I have with cartoons recently and what I feel are the best steps to avoid them.
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A common problem I have with cartoons recently is the awful writing on display. Shows like Samurai Rabbit, Hamster & Gretel, Ollie's Pack, and Mech Cadets all have writing that at best very underwhelming and at worst inexcusably amateurish. Scenes would go on for minutes at a time delivering boring exposition, unfunny gags, and very unnatural dialogue. It very much feels like the creators don't understand the value of basic writing principles such as "show, don't tell" "less is more" or "do much, speak little." Rather, they often go through the motions of a typical show so they can meet the given runtine and stay underbudget. For example, an episode of Centaurworld is around 26 minutes, which should be more than enough time to develop the characters, explore the world, have a good amount of funny moments and intense action scenes. What they choose to spend that runtime on instead is one note characters standing around arguing with one another, exposition dump upon exposition dump, unfunny gags, and underwhelming at best action scenes. This in turn makes the premise of the show feel wasted, like the creators only gave a successful pitch just to make something digestible to put bread on the table.
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It really does feel like characters in cartoons these days are one of 2 archetypes: the annoying chatterbox and the moronic dirtbag. Let's compare 2 characters that have the same idea but vastly different executions: Eddy from Ed, Edd, n Eddy, and Ollie from Ollie's Pack. Both are outcasts who aren't good role models, but we're supposed to find them entertaining and funny. Despite those similarities, Eddy is clearly the superior character in this scenario because he often gets his comeuppance for almost immediately, and he actually does care for his friends. Ollie, in contrast, is just a selfish brat who sees his friends as expendable and doesn't get his comeuppance as quickly. Not only are the main characters detestable and annoying, but the supporting cast isn't much better as often they're either underdeveloped and unfunny or they're just parrots that always share the same thoughts as the main character. And don't even get me started on how incompetent, pathetic, and annoying the show's villains can get. Seriously, I defy anyone to make a good case for characters like Lloyd Garmadon, Jamack, the Yokai from Samurai Rabbit, or any of the villains from Hamster & Gretel.
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An important aspect of animation that not many people bring up in conversation is voice acting. Voice actors are essential in giving life to characters in animation as they're able to make them sound believable and authentic. Or at least, that's what good voice acting should be. So many of the animated shows I've watched have such underwhelming or otherwise terrible voice acting that make the characters sound fake and kill my suspension of disbelief. Some of the worst vocal performances I've heard in recent memory come from Chris Houghton as Cricket Green, Meli Povenmire as Gretel Gomez, Allyn Rachel as Bee, and Danny Pudi as Tiny. They all have very terrible range, no sense of urgency in their tones, and don't sound the least bit believable as their characters. It's also frustrating to hear veteran actors give lackluster performances such as Aulil'i Carvalho as Hailey Banks, Chris Diantamopoulos as Thunder, and Karen Fukahara as Kipo. It's not entirely the fault of the actors for giving lackluster performances, as often they're at the mercy of bad voice direction who doesn't do a good job bringing out the best in their actors.
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It's a given that animation on television has more limitations than big budget animated films. The best animated TV shows ever made, though, are able to work around those limitations and provide some excellent visuals that make the world feel alive. Recently though, I've notice a common problem when it comes to the animation in shows like Mech Cadets, Super Giant Robot Brothers, Daniel Spellbound, Hailey's On It, Bee and PuppyCat and My Dad The Bounty Hunter. All of them look good from a design standpoint, but in actual animation, they look choppy and stiff. This is because these shows have bad animation direction. Most people don't think about animation direction when watching a cartoon, but we can definitely tell when animation looks good versus when it looks bad. Bad animation is not just what's being shown on screen but also how it's being presented. In Mech Cadets, a character is giving a backstory to another character in a dark control room, and the camera moves around the room, showing the walls while the character talks. This is beyond inexcusable as it showcases the lack of appreciation for visual storytelling and is a complete waste of resources. Other aspects of bad animation include choppy character movements, a lack of mass on the character models, disorienting cinematography, and poor use of lighting and shading.
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What can be done to avoid these shortcomings? Well, it starts by having good scripts that value showing over telling. I can't recommend Pixar's 22 Rules of Storytelling enough for aspiring writers who want to make the best scrips they can. I also think having your characters be likable and well-rounded will help a ton, especially if they're in a show about good triumphing evil. Having good actors is one thing, but it's equally important to have a very good voice director with years of experience bringing out the best in voice actors. Finally, collaborating with a skilled animation director or a very well established animation studio would do wonders. And don't be afraid to speak up and communicate with the producers on how to make the show bettee while staying within the budget. Animation is a collaborative medium and animated series today should do a better job reflecting that.
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danvillecheese · 1 month
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if i may ask.. what's your honest opinion on hamster and gretel?
I really like it! I think it starts off a little slow for the first few episodes but it ends up being exciting to watch and it’s surprisingly funny
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Hamster and Gretel Propaganda
Watch Hamster and Gretel cowards
Hamster and Gretel does have a VERY week first episode. However, it does get better and really hits its stride around episode 5 or so. So please don't write it off based on the first couple episodes. If you are a fan of PnF and MML, then you will probably enjoy it. It's full of the clever, slightly meta humor PnF and MML are known for. It's a little more modern in its humor, and that doesn't always work. But PnF itself ALSO had its contemporary humor that didn't really age, so that's nothing new. I'd say it falls in the middle of these two shows in terms of serialization, which isn't saying much, but it is in fact lightly serialized.
I understand preferring serialized shows (as usually I do too). However, that doesn't mean more episodic shows are bad. It's first and foremost a comedy. And it works at that. Granted, humor is pretty subjective, but I think its pretty funny. Its clever, and the unique situations the characters find themselves lends itself to originality. Obviously not all the jokes land, but I think each episode has something I laugh at every time. It is clearly a project that is dear to Dan Povenmire's heart, with references to his family practically everywhere. And that shines through in the interactions between the main cast. The characters are all very entertaining and our main cast show simple, but effective character growth. The characters I think are definitely the main appeal of the show. As is to be expected this show excels in wholesome and realistic family dynamics. Many of the characters echo previous archetypes shown in the Flynn-Fletcher and Murphy families. However, those families worked for a reason, and the Grant-Gomez family has enough of its own spin to keep it fresh.
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"I gave birth to both of you. This is nothing."
If you haven't seen any episodes, here's a rundown of the characters. Kevin. The Guy with the minivan. He's the normie older brother, and the real main character, who feels overshadowed by his younger sister by the universe. But he's eager to insert himself into Hamster and Gretel's heroics and carves out a role for himself. While he works from the sidelines, he is a crucial member of the team. His actions often come from a place of protectiveness for his sister, in addition to the jealousy. However he never takes it out on her. Kevin is a teenage boy, and everything that entails. Awkward, a bit of a dumbass, and desperately trying to establish his identity. But he's also genuinely well intentioned, resourceful, and is a sweet and protective older brother to Gretel. I really appreciate how seriously the show, and the other characters treat Kevin and his contributions and struggles.
Gretel is an energetic, cheerful, reckless and stubborn girl. She's often oblivious to how Kevin feels about certain things. Despite her love for Kevin doesn't always take him seriously and is often annoyed with him and how he manages her superheroing, and tries to do things her own way, even when Kevin protests. Though she does value his attention and assistance. Kevin is the first one who Gretel will call out to for help in a pinch and he'll always jump in without a second thought, even if he's literally powerless.
The core of the show is the dynamic between Kevin and Gretel. They love each other, but also do get on each others nerves, and aren't afraid to tease each other. When they first received powers, Kevin was genuinely excited to be a superhero with his little sister, and though that didn't pan out the way he thought it was going to, both are genuinely happy to be a team. They trust each other immensely, and while the first episode is rather weak it does establish the amount of trust they have in each other. Despite Kevin's lack of powers.
The other titular character, Hamster is a talking hamster. He will not allow anyone to expect anything more than what he's already giving (he can talk what more do you want). But he's got a surprising amount out of depth. He's generally pretty inexpressive, but that contrasts with his petty hamster problems and his surprising variety of skills. Hamster's unflinching loyalty for Gretel, dry wit, and a penchant for messing with Kevin, really adds to team and family dynamic. Kevin and Hamster's growing friendship, built on friendly rivalry is another highlight of the show. Hamster may be a bit of a sarcastic grump, but we see him having to swallow his pride and ask for help and accept assistance somewhat regularly.
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"We're more like neutral coworkers who live together."
Fred is an amazing character and rounds out the main quartet. Kevin and Gretel's cousin, a woman of many skills. A computer wiz, anime nerd, and talented gymnast among other things. Someone who on the surface seems far more suited to Kevin's role than he is. There's hardly ever a dull moment with Fred on screen who's constant cynicism contrasts nicely with Gretel and Kevin's more cheerful attitudes. Fred has grown up with the two of them and knows them well. She very clearly cares a lot about the two of them, though isn't afraid to call them out and isn't nearly as proactively concerned as Kevin. She's able to act as a mediator of sorts at times between the two of them. Fred also shows growth as she in individual episodes comes to appreciate people who aren't like her (emotional and cheerful), and comes to realize they have more in common than she initially thought.
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"Yeah, they're still evil, 'cause you know, they're like teenage girls, but not supervillain evil."
The rest of the extended family is also delightful and has significant presence. Family is a central theme in this show, and the whole extended family often plays key roles in episode plots. It's very clear how important everyone is to each other and how family has made these people who they are. Carolina and Dave are very involved in their kids lives and have their own subplots and developed personalities. In addition Churro the family dog, Carolina's mother, her sister Meli, and Dave's sister (Fred's mom) Stacy really flesh out the family despite their limited appearances.
The rest of extended cast is also fun, really fleshing out the world. Bailey is Gretel's best friend and a particularly important reoccurring character. She starts as Hamster and Gretel's (superhero) biggest fan. Often oblivious, she's confident, energetic, intelligent and a genuinely supportive friend. She's still a somewhat reckless and obnoxious little kid, not unlike Gretel, but her passion, and strong principles help highlight Gretel's strength's and weaknesses. She's definitely the kind of weird little girl whose always got some weird facts on hand about some niche topic, which sometimes comes in handy. Her and Gretel's relationship is also a highlight as they unconditionally care about each other, but still often experience conflict, usually do to external forces.
Hiromi is the girl Kevin has a crush on, but a fully fledged character in her own right. She's goofy, passionate, hardworking, works at a comic shop, is the editor for the school newspaper, and ends up forming a fun friendship with Fred.
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"I must point out again that vikings did not have canons. Or singing."
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"mmm. Wouldn't be much of a musical without the singing."
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"A girl can dream."
The villains are mostly one offs, but their often quite unique in premise and their motivations are often quite hilariously petty. Though, there is a slight overarching plot as the mystery behind the aliens motivations, which involves certain members of Gretel's rogue gallery. The plots are moving slowly, but developing nevertheless. The reoccurring villains also play a part in emphasizing the themes of family. Even minor villains occasionally have motivations related to their families. Two of the most frequent reoccurring villains, are Fistpuncher and the Destructress. A twins with the same powers as Hamster and Gretel who were given their powers by the same aliens, except to use for evil. They act as foils to Kevin and Gretel. Fistpuncher and Gretel are both impulsive younger siblings. Destructress and Kevin are both responsible older siblings, who want acknowledgement. Both sets of siblings are competitive, but care deeply for each other and have had their lives changed by powers beyond their understanding. Professor Exclamation, from the first episode, is also a reoccurring villain whose relationship with his son is also a major subplot. Nordle is a fun character who highlights Gretel's character strengths, as he develops out of his father's shadow.
I think some of Hamster and Gretel's main themes are family, trust and community, as it is in Phineas and Ferb and Milo Murphy's Law. I'll probably got more into those eventually. But I think there is another theme here of not underestimating people or making assumptions about them. Without giving too much away, whether its people repeatedly underestimating Kevin's skills, Fred learning that cheerleaders are just people, Hamster having a rich life outside of the Grant-Gomez's, or even just a grumpy clown being nice, characters are constantly subverting expectations. It may not be anything particularly mindbreaking to the audience, but to the characters they are constantly having to break through others expectations, or adapt how they view others.
Music, as always is top tier. I don't have anything else to add except that they're funny. Admittedly the opening is pretty weak. But there are plenty of other fun songs. I particularly like Don't Steal From the Banks, My Best Friend Bailey's Birthday, Ropa Vieja, I Think We'll Break for Lunch and How You Feel About Me.
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"I'm a lemur and I love it and I'm standing on my toes"
Overall, the writing is witty, and there is a sense of continuity, between episodes in a lot of subtle ways so even as the episodes are largely self-contained. Conflicts are largely comedic in nature, and often absurd, which leads to creativity in how they are resolved. While they often are pretty predictable, they aren't particularly repetitive. I'm not really one to comment on voice acting, but the delivery of many lines really elevates the writing. Hiromi, Fred, and Fistpuncher in particular have really had some solid deliveries in my opinion that make okay dialogue, hilarious. I wasn't sold on Meli Povenmire as Gretel at first, but as the show has gone on I think she's improved, and really brings Gretel to life.
Overall the show is just a good time, and a sweet show about family and superhero shenanigans. The show is just fun to watch, simple, but effective and its a shame to see it go not only overlooked by people but looked at with disdain. It is definitely in part the shows fault for its weak start, I can't defend that. It's also not a particularly dramatic or emotional show, so if your looking for something like The Owl House or The Ghost and Molly McGee, you're not going to get it here. Though that isn't to say it doesn't have it's heartwarming moments. And it's not exactly Phineas and Ferb or Milo Murphy's Law either. But it's not fair to punish the show for something its not. Hamster and Gretel is delightful. So watch it cowards.
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