#ds9 meta

[vaguely-concerned]

the way the wire sets up these two opposing forces in garak's psyche that I think continue to wrestle it out in the background for the rest of the show -- on one side, his father-who-won't-even-acknowledge-that going 'I hope you keep living in shame and despair and desolate isolation for decades to come sport😜' (tain has basically gone 'be so kind as to create a hell of your own making and then stay in there for me, there's a good boy'. and garak has done that. oof. tain made him build a closet in his own head and locked him in it by doing nothing except make it clear he's not allowed to get out because he deserves to be in there. he never had to tell garak to do anything; that's what makes him special. I. am in shambles)

and then on the other side coming in with a steel chair, julian's soft steady voice going 'no one deserves this' and 'I don't want to hurt you' and 'I'll help you through it'.

one side that not only utterly abandoned him to his own misery but engineered it in the first place to control him, and one side that boldly, brazenly, doggedly refuses to abandon him, both on principle and out of personal care, no matter what garak says or does through the episode to try to throw him off. (and accepting the personal care aspect seems to part of bashir's journey of the episode; he has to admit to himself that yeah they are friends at this point. he is not personally watching over this guy while he sleeps like a lanky dweeb guardian angel for purely professional reasons lol thank you for calling his fucking bluff jadzia.) tain and bashir are basically having a quiet faux-affable battle for garak's soul at the end of that ep and while it starts small, down the road it eventually becomes clear julian won. tain gambles that his own influence will always triumph in the long run (he got there first, after all), and he's wrong.

all of this is presumably also why garak writes a stitch in time specifically to julian (aside from all the normal gay reasons) -- at the end of that he all but says that it's partly because he knows in such a deep way that julian would never judge him as harshly as he judges himself. the kindest voice in garak's inner world is julian bashir, that's how deeply he's internalized it. what the fuck. that's one of the most beautiful ways of touching someone's life I can imagine I feel nauseous and disoriented adn I need to go lie down for a while

#garashir #star trek #star trek ds9 #elim garak #ds9 #julian bashir #I have so much meta about this in me but I can't get it to be coherent fdhsakjfas feelings too many words too slippery #one day I'll get it down properly but for now have this mess #ds9 meta

[kitkatt0430]

Quark doesn't have any children of his own (goodness knows he'd be paying out the nose for child support if he did) but he helped raise Nog. In a lot of ways, Nog is very much his kid.

When Quark was a kid, his father wasn't a good businessman. We learn over the course of the show that he's a lot more like his mother. She's brilliant with managing finances and gaining profit. Rom is much more like their father and for that reason Quark initially keeps him on a short leash. Rom's already been screwed over by his first wife and Quark feels like he has to protect his brother, even as he also tries to be a good ferengi by exploiting him.

Nog, raised with his father and uncle as his primary guardians, is acutely aware that his father has no real business sense. And while Nog is his father's son in many ways... he's also Quark's son. I doubt Quark would appreciate thinking it's his influence on Nog that leads him to join Starfleet, but Nog does inherit his uncle's intelligence and realizes that while he doesn't want the same life his father has... he doesn't want the life Quark has, either. Chasing profit and having it never be truly fulfilling enough. Nog's smart enough to figure out what he wants his own path to be, however, and he applies the lessons of their culture in ways that might not gain Quark's approval but does often gain his respect. (And inspires his father to eventually chart his own path too.)

Quark may never outright say it, but the way he feels at heart is pretty clearly that Nog is his kid too; we see him act parental, concerned... perhaps treating Nog at times the same way Ishka treated Quark and Rom when they were younger. Quark takes an interest in Nog's schooling when he's young and while he thinks Starfleet Academy is a mistake, still takes pride in being part of Nog's send off. Quark often 'mothers' Nog; I'm not really sure how else to put the way Quark will hover over Nog when he worries about his nephew, but it's definitely behavior Quark learned from his own mother. And when Nog is injured so badly during the war that he loses his leg, Quark nurses his nephew and even sets aside his own ideals to pick up a weapon in defense of them both from the attacking jem'hadar.

Every time I watch this show I think I come to love the way Quark, Rom, and Nog grow and change as a family over the course of the years a little more.

#kitkatt0430 rambles #deep space nine #fandom meta #ds9 meta #quark #nog #rom

[cheeseanonioncrisps]

One of my favourite things about Deep Space Nine is imagining how Sisko's superiors must have been reacting to his shenanigans behind the scenes.

I mean just imagine it.

You're an admiral or something in Starfleet. You belong to an organisation that spans half the galaxy, has access to unimaginable (to many civilisations) levels of technology, and contains numerous different cultures.

You are well aware that the power and technological advancement of the Federation makes you inherently dangerous to less technologically advanced peoples. Like the moment any group is introduced to you, the development of their species is basically going to be changed forever. A single individual fucking around can, if careless, negatively impact an entire world.

Avoiding this kind of thing is therefore one of the core values of your civilisation. Your Prime Directive. There are huge lists of rules and regulations over when it is an isn't appropriate to intervene. People have literally died rather than break them.

And then there's this one world, whose people have only just overthrown an oppressive regime and are looking to join your Federation. You and your colleagues vote to help them rebuild, while steering clear of interfering with any of their politics, of course, and send some of your guys over to help administrate.

One of those guys then goes and DECLARES HIMSELF A GOD.

Like, we, the audience, know that Sisko was chosen by the Worm-Hole Aliens to be their Emissary. We know that he struggled with accepting the role at first and that he had visions and eventually came around to whole-heartedly believing in the Bajoran religion.

But Starfleet doesn't know that! Starfleet isn't inside Sisko's head!

From Starfleet's perspective the most logical explanation for all this is that they sent some guy to the back of beyond, the local people got him involved in their religion and then he either went crazy or saw an opportunity to gain power, and now he can impact the entire planet's political decisions on a fucking whim and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

I mean, this has to be every higher-up's worst nightmare, right? This is the sort of extreme scenario they'd come up with in school textbooks to explain to children why the Prime Directive is necessary.

If the Dominion War hadn't happened, Sisko's main legacy in the Federation would have been "the reason why we have all these extra regulations about interfering with non-Federation worlds, and why all Starfleet Captains operating in the vicinity of such worlds have mandatory psych evaluations every couple of months."

And they can't even do anything about it! They can't remove him and replace him with another Officer, because the local people are 100% on board with this 'Sisko's the Messiah' thing and won't work with anyone else. You can't back away from the situation entirely and give them a few years to repair the damage because it's super critical for the war you're currently fighting.

You can't even really control Sisko, because although he makes a show of being The Good Starfleet Captain, in practice there's always a risk that if you say something he disagrees with too strongly he'll just go off piste and do something else entirely and justify it with: "the Prophets told me to".

Which, again, the audience knows is a very real thing that is actually happening to Sisko, but from Starfleet's perspective could be anything from "Sisko is hearing voices" to "Sisko is legit just pulling things from his ass and trusting that we won't risk pissing off the Bajorans by contradicting him."

Just saying, from the perspective of the Federation, Sisko is probably as well-known a cautionary tale as he is a hero.

#benjamin sisko #deep space nine #ds9 #ds9 meta #star trek #star trek meta

[walkingstackofbooks]

Thinking about how Julian is so antsy in Distant Voices about his upcoming 30th birthday, and how he says he found out about his augmentations when he was 15.

How likely is it that he's hyperaware that half of his life has been spent living a lie, and that after his 30th birthday, he'll have spent more time knowing than not.

How far away did 30 seem to him when he was 15? How much did he assume he'd be found out before he ever got to that age?

How much longer does he think he's going to have left *after* turning 30? Being overly concerned about middle age is a somewhat humorous, if relatable, concept - but what happens when you know that your life could be over with one mistake that you're constantly on the edge of making?

How many close calls had there been in the last 15 years? How many more close calls will there be before he gets to 45? Which one will see him kicked out of Starfleet, out of medicine, into an institution? When will that be?

"Aging is part of the natural process of life", but he's not natural.

"When you hit thirty, it becomes harder and harder to ignore the passage of time": the passage of time, bringing him closer and closer to his inevitable discovery.

"In many human cultures, the thirtieth birthday is considered a sort of landmark. It marks the end of youth and the beginning of the slow march into middle age." Will Julian still be living in another 15 years time, or will he simply be existing, locked up somewhere, hidden away from society? Will he get to enjoy middle age, or will his youth be the only time he got to have?

Turning thirty means that for exactly half a lifetime, he's had to shoulder the weight of his secret. So yes, having to think about his thirtieth birthday does bring up a whole host of feelings that he can't quite manage to hide.

#Julian Bashir #genetically enhanced Julian Bashir #distant voices #ds9 meta #my trek musings #This thought has been sitting in my drafts unable to be expressed for like 9 months? 😅 #WSB

[nerdy-flower]

I have a lot of thoughts about Joseph Sisko’s second wife. She lived a whole life before ending up in the repository of dead fictional moms.

I think she met Joseph at the restaurant, and paid more attention to six month old Ben in his high than she did her actual date. Fell in love with both of them hard enough to keep a secret until she died. To forget the secret existed most of the time, because she got Ben dressed for school and soothed his tears and told him to put all of his laundry in the hamper or it isn’t getting cleaned just like his real mother would have.

I think she was a professor of 20th century Earth history and showed Ben how to hold the past in his palm, loosely but never too loosely. I think he danced on her feet in the kitchen to old Motown songs, her singing along and toddler Judith doing that step-step-turn dance all babies do.

I think living in the shadow of unspoken grief couldn’t have been easy, to be the second love of a man who had lost a spouse in such an obscure way. A gap in understanding never filled.

I think she looked like Q. Smith as Hannah in ‘Come From Away,’ purple sweater and all. I think little Ben napped best in her arms if he couldn’t sleep stretched across his father’s lap. I think Rebecca, the name she was given in beta canon, suited her well.

I think she loved her son’s nurturing side, watching him gently cradle one, two, three siblings in turn. And I think she took responsibility for his mischievous side, indulging his rascal behaviour and recognizing the gleaming edge of his smile before anyone else caught on.

I think she was unsurprised when Ben beamed home every night his first week of Starfleet Academy, knowing his life would always be a tension between unselfish ambition and deep love for his family. I think she never saw anyone as happy as Joseph the day Ben and Jennifer called to tell them they would be grandparents.

I wonder if she lived long enough to watch the man she called son lose his wife and crack his faith. I wonder how her other children felt when yet another family member slipped into somewhere beyond their reach, when they couldn’t call their mother and say “You’ll never guess what he did now.” I wonder what stories they told Julian about her when Ben finally brought him home to New Orleans to meet the family.

#Sisko family feels #ds9 meta #benjamin sisko

[iftadwascool]

#star trek #deep space nine #garak #meme #humor #cardassians #ds9 #elim garak #ds9 meta

[ectogeo-rebubbles]

Headcanon that Mila was not a housekeeper in the usual sense, but rather a housekeeper in the John le Carré spy jargon sense.

Fact 1: Mila can’t cook.

Evidence: She says herself that she is not much of a cook in ‘The Dogs of War.’ Also, Garak wouldn’t eat her food in ‘What You Leave Behind.’

Fact 2: Mila doesn’t clean.

Evidence: Of the messy basement in Tain’s house where she lives, she says “This place hasn't been cleaned in years” (’The Dogs of War’) rather than something more like “I haven’t cleaned this place in years.”

Fact 3: Mila is consistently referred to as Tain’s housekeeper (and confidant) in ‘Improbable Cause,’ ‘The Die is Cast,’ and ‘The Dogs of War.’ So she is definitely a housekeeper - unless, of course, that is just her preferred cover story and she’s really the Obsidian Order’s top sniper or something. Which is also a VERY good headcanon, but for the moment let’s just go for the simplest explanation.

In le Carré’s novels, the housekeepers are a department of the British intelligence service, and they are in charge of the financial aspects of espionage as well as internal affairs within the service. (I’m going off of the definition given on the jargon section of the Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy wikipedia article, as well as my memories of a handful of his works, but feel free to correct me on this definition if you think I’ve missed some nuance.)

So basically, Mila doesn’t clean... except for organizing and orchestrating all of the OO's cleanup and coverup operations. She can’t cook... but she can cook the books when money has to flow clandestinely from one shady source to another. She can’t sew either (Garak definitely doesn’t get it from her)... unless it is to sew someone's lips shut with blackmail material or to patch holes in an agent's cover stories.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk! ^_^

#Mila Garak #mila ds9 #ds9 #ds9 meta #star trek ds9

[various-things]

So, in like, referencing various stuff between editing and checking things for fic writing, I’ve noticed two instances where Julian’s script directions ended up being very different from what ended up on film.

I’m not assuming that these were specifically an acting choice via Sid or a product of direction or a combination, etc etc, I know it could have come out of a range of things, but I think in both instances it was a better outcome!

One is in A Time To Stand:

And one is in Afterimage:

I know that one ^^ is a bit more subjective, but that doesn’t read like, “Oh, that means so much.” to me as much as it reads as what Ezri meant as like, a nice reveal landing in a way that’s somewhat devastating.

#ds9 #deep space nine meta #julian bashir #ds9 meta #images have alt text

[fortheloveoflatinum]

Rare-Pair Thoughts

I don't know why, but I have always been - and remain - inordinately fond of rare-pairs.

It's a blessing and a curse.

#star trek #but could be anything #rarepair #meta #ds9 meta #because I am thinking of: #quodo #and #weyoun/damar

[cordrazine-official]

Alright, so I figured that since we have a point of reference for Bashir’s birthday within the show (Distant Voices, 3x18) I would try and find out which other episodes are set around his birthday.

As a basis for my calculations:

I have counted two-parters and three-parters (even those that aren’t called “… pt.1 & 2”) as a single episode. Thus, for example, season 4 only has 23 episodes and season 7 only has 24.

I counted approximately 2 weeks (average) between episodes, unless otherwise specified. when multiplying the number of episodes with 2 I got the number of weeks for each season, which, when I added everything together, amounted to a total of 6.67 years, which isn’t exactly 7 years but isn’t like, 2, either. not very scientific, I know, but I’m working with what I have here.

there are no mentions of a time gap between seasons 1 and 2, 2 and 3, 3 and 4 & 4 and 5.

there are 3 months gaps between seasons 5 & 6 and 6 & 7.

there are only 19 episodes in season 1, but since it flows so neatly into season 2 I’ve elected not to make up a time gap.

in order to account for two-parters and other fluctuations, I will be listing not one, but three episodes for each season, as I believe that I can’t be accurate enough to set his birthday during one specific episode.

Since his confirmed birthday occurs during season 3, I have counted 52 weeks forward starting from “Distant Voices”, counting two-parters as a single episode and checking (as best I could) that I wasn’t missing any big time gaps. Thus:

season 4: Bashir’s birthday occurs somewhere around “The Muse” (4x21). The episode before that is “Shattered Mirror” and the episode after that is “For the Cause”. That’s pretty alright for a birthday.

season 5: he could be celebrating his birthday among his descendants (yay!) in “Children of Time” (5x22). Imagine someone from that planet coming up to him to wish him a happy birthday… The episode before that is “Soldiers of the Empire” and after that we’ve got “Blaze of Glory”.

season 6: he’d be celebrating during “Wrongs Darker than Death or Night” (6x17). But because I like my blorbos to suffer I choose to believe that his birthday is closer to the next episode, which would be “Inquisition”. The episode before “Wrongs Darker than Death or Night” is “Change of Heart”.

season 7: his birthday would fall around “The Emperor’s New Cloak” (7x12), which is set right after “Prodigal Daughter” (“Would it help if I said that as someone who isn't especially close to his parents, I sympathise?” he’s really going through it) and right before “Field of Fire”.

Counting back from “Distant Voices” we find that his season 2 birthday would’ve happened around “Paradise” (2x15), which is set between “Whispers” and “Shadowplay”.

Season 1 is a little more guesswork because there are only 19 episodes in that season. Counting back while ignoring the gap in episode number brings us to “Q-Less” (1x7), which could mean he just slept through his first birthday on DS9. Other possibilities are “Captive Pursuit” (1x6) and “Dax” (1x8) which - that one would suck as a birthday.

Since he hasn’t yet had his birthday when he arrives on DS9 (Dax mentions he’s 27, which means he is yet to turn 28 in that same year, having been born in 2341), this actually makes sense within canon.

Voilà! If anyone has any corrections/remarks/other comments, they are welcome - I tried my best but I probably missed a few things.

#ds9 #ds9 meta #julian bashir #i spent way too long on this but i'm not sorry! #star trek #julian bashir my beloved

[cityontheedgeofforever]

“Ties of Blood and Water” is such an underrated episode. It is so heartfelt, emotional and complex that I don’t even know where to begin.

Kira’s obvious love and adoration of Ghemor, his return of the sentiment; two people that lost their family in the occupation and have found a new family in each other, with the beautiful parallel of Kira showing her not-father her not-son but both are her family! Her crippling guilt about leaving her father to die alone, especially with him repeatedly asking her not to leave, and how seeing Ghemor, her father figure and also a Cardassian, one of those responsible for the occupation and therefor the death of her family, in a similar state, and using his past as an excuse to not visit him in the end before changing her mind. The gentle way Bashir tries to coax her to visit and later his support of her facing her fears and her trauma, not just of her fathers death, but her own guilt associated with it. The beautiful, beautiful ending of the camera zooming out and us seeing that she has buried Ghemor next to her father, on the hillside that was once barren end empty, now covered in bright green grass and beautiful flowers.

I feel like it stands so symbolic that in the end, she also does it alone, seeing as the only person who had come to see her, Furel, has now also passed away. The resistance camp is gone, and so is Furel, and so is the resistance as the occupation is over, and Bajor is healing; grass and flowers flourishing over the once barren rockside, and we know, like it -- Kira is finally healing too. 

#also she throws a cup at dul dukats face!!!! #best episode ever!!! #i didnt even touch on the praying but yk the praying in the middle and the end hrfuirsr #makes me feel #avery brooks you fucking outdid yourself here #its a super emotional episode that didnt make me cry but instead made me ache #kiras pain is so visceral #ties of blood and water #ds9 #star trek #star trek meta #ds9 meta #kira nerys #avery brooks #tekeny ghemor #julian bashir #gul dukat #furel

[vaguely-concerned]

Visual Language Things in Improbable Cause/The Die Is Cast that are driving me INSANE

the stuff they do with light and shadow in these episodes is just. someone went 'I know artists who use subtlety and they're all cowards' and they were so right for that

are you telling me... that this man is caught between light and dark in this moment and hasn't yet decided which side his soul is going to come down on in the end. hm. interesting. (especially cool that when the shadows of his face are lit up in the runabout at the end, that's when you see the damage underneath. he's partially made that choice and he's illuminated, but not by a comforting light yet, those are danger colours. odo and garak bonding on a day trip to hell; the episode)

I think this shot is ultimately my touchpoint for the visual language set up in this episode -- julian bashir standing there in 'wherever you have to go, come home to this afterwards' light as garak walks into the shadows (and towards tain). where does the light in his life come from currently? we may have a clue before us folks

(This one is literally just because his expression here makes my chest feel weird and aching. oof. I feel like this is one of the rare times he lets himself be really openly soft because he must know there's a decent chance he's not coming back)

aaaand what's the very first thing that greets him once he 'returns to the light' so to speak? :) little bit of a moral and emotional horror show in the middle there admittedly but thanks to odo he did come home and no one like. died or anything. well. many many people died but that honestly wasn't his fault or responsibility. we'll call it a victory

some really cool odo shots too in this ep. I love you constable this was so fucking extra for no reason

fun little detail: when the defiant starts shaking upon taking fire, Julian immediately puts his hand on Garak's shoulder -- the same way and on the same side as Garak did to Tain minutes before, when Odo had to fucking. knock him out to make him let go. (again: odo I love you. a direct and decisive thinker above all)

#garashir #star trek #star trek ds9 #elim garak #ds9 #odo #enabran tain #julian bashir #ds9 meta #I suspect this two parter is one of those parts of the show I'm going to go back to again and again and find new stuff in haha #so much good shit in there!!! #this is a mess b/c it's getting real late and I'm wild with new depths of emotion (and hatred for tain) #but take my humble offerings. the shoulder detail especially got me so good to realize lmao #mirrors!

[kitkatt0430]

Benjamin Sisko is an amazing man, but it's still hilarious that so many people to fixate on him as their personal rival.

Dukat, Eddington, and Solok are the most notable three. And all three all wind up completely changing their personalities to revolve around one-upping Sisko and he winds up beating them anyway.

After Dukat destroys his career, he re-fashions himself into what is essentially the Emissary of the Pah-Wraiths. He's always been fixated on Sisko to some degree, but the final season takes it up to eleven.

Eddington becomes fed up with his career and projects his frustrations on to Sisko, re-imagining their relationship to be one where he's the noble criminal and Sisko the evil, relentless enforcer. But reality was never going to conform to his imaginings.

Solok, the Vulcan who was so obsessed with one-upping Sisko that he also developed an obsession with baseball. He drags his crew into it. He taunts Ben with it, makes things personal in a way the other two can't. In part because Solok is so incredibly petty. The other two are so grandiose in their methods, but Solok takes the petty route every time.

#kitkatt0430 rambles #deep space nine #ds9 meta #fandom meta #star trek meta #benjamin sisko #dukat #michael eddington #solok #anyway guess who just watched the baseball episode #worf's battle cries for baseball chatter is all the more hilarious knowing he played soccer as a kid #he knows what human sports are like #he's just having fun with it and it's great especially coming off the previous episodes where he's been grieving for jadzia

[nerdgatehobbit]

Here’s the senior staff having a meeting in Sisko’s office during “If Wishes Were Horses” (the commander himself is offscreen here as his status is marked by a separate spot).  I’ve touched on this before, but I do like Visitor’s body language when she’s playing Kira, as I doubt it was a directorial decision to have her take up that much space on the couch.

Given my awareness of how DS9 ends, it’s very interesting here how Kira and Sisko are the ones standing when the meeting is declared over.  Some of that, yes, is because of Kira’s stress over a suggested idea, but my confirmation bias suggests it could act as unintended foreshadowing of Kira being the member of the senior staff with the most leadership potential (as Sisko has already achieved his).

#ds9 senior staff #kira nerys #she gets singled out because I say so #ds9 meta #st ds9 #star trek #ds9 #my screencaps #in which there is a queue

[walkingstackofbooks]

Season 2 Observations - What the DS9 crew call each other

I'm back with my spreadsheet and armed with new facts. Let's go! (For Season 1 Observations, see here.)

This is a bit longer and there was still more I wanted to include - if you want to check out the raw data yourself, you can view the spreadsheet here!

Sisko

Is slightly more likely to introduce himself as "Benjamin Sisko" (6x) than "Commander Benjamin Sisko" (5x) - though this is often followed in both cases by "of the United Federation of Planets" or something similar.

Kira, Odo and Quark mostly call him "Commander", and rarely "Sir" - all are extremely consistent with season 1. (37:8, 16:2 and 11:0 as compared to in s1 35:8. 15:2 and 9:0)

Miles and Julian are more likely to call him "Sir", but use "Commander" often as well. How often has changed for them both since Season 1: > Julian has moved from using both equally, to using "Sir" twice as often. > Miles has moved from using "Sir" three times as much to almost using both equally (40:35)

Dax still uses Benjamin almost exclusively (24x), although she will use "Commander" on occasion (2x).

Is most often referred to as "Commander Sisko (22x), followed by Sisko (12x) - O'Brien is the only one to use "Sisko" more frequently.

Kira

Most often calls herself "Major Kira Nerys" (4x).

Everyone, apart from Dax, almost always calls her "Major".

Dax exclusively calls her Kira (2x) - Bashir and Sisko have both also called her this (2x and 1x respectively).

Is most often referred to as "Kira" (13x), followed by "Major Kira" (6x) - a change from Season 1 where the "Kira: Major Kira" ratio was 5:18 > Odo bucks this trend: as in season 1, he refers to her as "Major Kira" 2 times and "Kira" only once.

Odo

Introduces himself as "Chief of Security Odo" (2x).

Is called "Odo" by everybody; Kira (7x), Dax (7x), O'Brien (4x) and Quark (24x!!!!) will use this most often.

Sisko and Bashir are more likely to call him "Constable" - 13:8 and 2:1 respectively. > Kira and Dax never call him "Constable" > Miles uses it almost just as much as "Odo" (3:4) > Quark calls him it twice

Is almost exclusively referred to as Odo by everyone - Kira referred to him as "Constable Odo" once, and O'Brien as "the constable" once.

Trends are consistent with Season 1, apart from Kira stopping using Constable entirely, and Bashir, Dax and O'Brien actually speaking about/ talking to him more than two times this season!

Julian

Refers to himself most often as "Julian" or "Julian Bashir".

Sisko, Kira, Odo and Quark exclusively call him "Doctor" - apart from Kira calling him "Julian" once, on his request!

Dax and O'Brien more often call him "Julian" (9:1 and 12:5 respectively) > After Armageddon Game, O'Brien only calls him Julian.

He is still referred to as "Doctor Bashir" most often by Sisko, Kira and Odo

Jadzia still refers to him mostly as "Julian".

O'Brien now refers to him mostly as "the doctor" or "Bashir" (2x each), as opposed to "Dr Bashir" in S1 (2x) > Quark similarly uses "Bashir" most (3x), followed by "the doctor" (2x)

Jadzia

Refers to herself as "Jadzia" most often (5x), but 4 of those times are in the episode Playing God where she is talking in the third person about herself. > She also calls herself "Dax" (2x), "Jadzia Dax" (2x) and when talking to Klingons in Blood Oath, "I who was Curzon Dax" and "You knew me as Curzon Dax".

Sisko and Kira call her "Dax" most often, followed by "Lieutenant" (22:11 and 7:5 respectively). > No change from S1 for Sisko, but Kira only began to call her Dax this season. > Kira also first calls her Jadzia - unprompted! - in Blood Oath. > Sisko only calls her "Old Man" once.

Odo, O'Brien and Quark exclusively call her "Lieutenant".

Julian exclusively calls her Jadzia, but only twice.

Sisko, Kira and O'Brien usually refer to her as "Dax" - the latter two exclusively. > Sisko uses "Jadzia" just as much (6x), but only in the episode Invasive Procedures, when talking about her as opposed to Verad Dax who has stolen her symbiont. > Once again, this is same as S1 for Sisko, but a change from exclusively "Lieutenant Dax" (1x) for Kira.

Julian most often refers to her as "Jadzia" (4x), followed by Dax (2x).

Miles

Calls himself "O'Brien" most often (4x) - "Miles O'Brien" (6x) is skewed because of his repetition of it (4x) under torture in Tribunal.

Everyone most often calls him "Chief". > For Odo, this is equal with "Mister O'Brien" (2x each), and for Quark this is equal with "O'Brien" (1x each).

"Mister O'Brien" is still used at a similar rate by Sisko, being used about four times less frequently than "Chief" in both seasons. Kira only uses it once, in early s2, compared to "Chief" 14x - she used both equally in S1.

Sisko, Bashir and Dax most often refer to him as "Chief O'Brien", a change for all of them from S1. > For Sisko, this is followed by "Mister O'Brien", his most common use in S1. > For Bashir this is followed equally by "O'Brien", his most common in S1, and by "the chief".

Kira and Quark refer to him as "O'Brien" more often.

Odo uses both "Chief O'Brien" and "O'Brien" equally (2x each)

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Thanks for your interest in this, it's definitely encouraged me to keep going! Not sure if this is the correct tag etiquette, but I thought I'd tag those of you who seemed keen to look at more data - let me know if you don't want this to happen in the future! (Or indeed if you want to be added to the update list!) But 100% thank you so much for your kind comments about this project - I'm glad to see it's not just me who likes to nerd out over cold, hard data! (Also feel free to talk about stuff in the comments, there were so many tag comments I wanted to reply to aha 😅)

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[nerdy-flower]

Still thinking about the scene in Second Sight where Ben is distracted at dinner and Jake accurately deduces that he’s in love

Like first of all it’s adorable, babey Jake acting like he has any romantic expertise whatsoever and Ben engaging with him genuinely rather than openly making fun of him? Precious

But also the fact that Jake is happy for his dad!! It would be expected and frankly normal for him to be uncomfortable or even upset with the idea of Ben dating again, especially since it was a death and not a divorce that ended his parents’ marriage. But he’s excited and smiling and wants to meet her!

I just think it’s a real testament to their closeness and the quality of the father-son relationship 🥺❤️

#jake sisko #benjamin sisko #second sight #ds9 meta