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eloquentmoon · 9 months
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━ A Star Wars OC Trio: Montana, Mimi and Vikktor
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thank you once again to @kenobiwanx for bringing my OCs to life, you are an amazing artist and i appreciate you so much! they are absolutely perfect, and im so thrilled 🥺 i commissioned gio to paint my three star wars OCs, from left to right: Pantoran Montana "Champagne" Varis, Twi'lek Mimi Mirage and Dathomirian Zabrak Vikktor Wrath! These three rock the Coruscant night scene as Mimi grinds live shows and bar work to make it topside as a performer. Montana helps her secure gigs with her girl boss business skills and clothing designer Vikktor creates custom looks for her. I've had so much fun exploring pop culture in the Star Wars universe through these three. Fun fact: Montana is bi, Mimi is a lesbian and Vikktor is gay. Space pride! 🏳️‍🌈
tagging in case of interest (feel free to ignore): @stardustbee @kimageddon @pumpkinmischief @dukeoftheblackstar @sinisterexaggerator @grinningnexu @elledjarin @agirlunderarock @frogunderarock
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jedimasterbailey · 7 months
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WARNING! AHSOKA SHOW RANT DOWN BELOW! SPOILERS!
Furthermore, I’m going to be completely honest in this review so if you’re someone who truly enjoyed the show, you’re a Rebels stan, etc. then this post isn’t for you. Haters will be blocked immediately so take your negative energy elsewhere. You have been warned!
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For everyone else, buckle up because I’ve got a lot to say and I’d love to hear your thoughts on this as well. All comments are welcome so long as they are respectful to everyone.
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Okay, so now that the show is done for now. I’m going to be listing some major talking points. We’re there some aspects of the show that I enjoyed/appreciated? Absolutely! But overall, I’m leaving this show very disappointed, confused, and frustrated. The finale left me feeling empty and never have I personally been more silent after a Star Wars show. Now mind you I think this has a lot to do with the fact that I love Ahsoka’s character dearly as well as the Clone Wars and the prequels so there is bias here. Furthermore I am pretty indifferent with Rebels so going in knowing that the Ahsoka show wasn’t going to be…well about Ahsoka but rather a Rebels sequel, that already put a bad taste in my mouth and I was very nervous how this show was going to go and well…it was exactly what I expected from a Filoni/cheap Disney production. Without further ado, here’s a list of all my beef.
1.) Lack of a Coherent and Cohesive Story
So I’ve mentioned this in a previous post, but my main issue with Dave Feloni productions is that the story seems to be going all over the place and there’s a lot of moving parts that don’t necessarily meld well together. I often think to myself that Ahsoka is an example of a poorly written fanfiction brought to the screen. So the plot of the show initally was focused on Ahsoka bringing Ezra home. Okay, that’s simple, there’s many different ways we can make that cool and interesting but that’s not what happened here. We’re just filled with a ton of confusing information and we’re in for a very boring journey heading for a very anticlimactic and unsatisfying ending.
For starters, we the audience are informed that Ahsoka and Sabine had started an apprenticeship (which I have ALOT of issues with but that’s for another talking point) but they got into a tiff (which we never find out about and/or see) and now things are just depressing and weird between them. First of all, anyone who has seen Rebels KNOWS that Ahsoka and Sabine literally had very little to do with each other; I can’t recall a single conversation those two have had in the past, nor was it ever eluded to us that Sabine is Force sensitive.
Second we see that Hera and Sabine don’t have anything to do with each other for some reason? Which is weird considering all that’s happened and their history but okay suddenly Sabine, a grown ass 30+ year old woman is Ahsoka’s responsibility, which again why? We don’t get any background information, we’re just expected to accept and go with it.
Third, Ahsoka and Hyuang are reunited and working together immediately but again do we know how that became to be? No. We see none of that.
Fourth we are told that Morgan Elsbeth, a one off antagonist from the Mandalorian that Ahsoka fought is suddenly a Dathormirian woman even though she looks nothing like one besides her outfits in the show nor was that eluded to previously.
Fifth, we are introduced to these two new…I don’t even know what to call them “dark siders” “non Jedi” Shin and Baylan (who is apparently a former Jedi from the Clone Wars but did we see that or see how he knew Ahsoka and Anakin? No.) but we aren’t given any reason to care about them other than they’re in Ahsoka’s way of completing her mission. They end up being more like time fillers that anything else and end up walking away from the big conclusion. Like…why are they even in this show and why should we care?
Perhaps Dave Feloni has this big grand story in his mind but he’s so far up his own ass that none of us get to see this story. It’s like seeing a little kid play with their action figures and they’re super passionate about it but as a outsider you have no idea what’s going on. Now this isn’t good not only for the sake of good storytelling but it’s bad for business too.
Disney wants to make as much money off of Star Wars as they can. That’s extremely obvious. However here you have a show that isn’t going to pull in a casual Star Wars viewers (they would have to watch so much content to catch up on whose who and what is going on) nor is it really going to pull in fans of Clone Wars and Rebels because while they overlap, the fandoms are different and Feloni hasn’t done a good job melding those worlds together thus the divisive opinions on this show. This leaves for an incredibly small niche of people and honestly I think whatever toy sells they make from this show will do better than the actual ratings. I would be shocked if they greenlit for another season because I’m pretty done with this story as is many of the people who would be willing to watch.
All in all this is embarrassing how Feloni and the gang with all the money and resources can’t pull off a simple and epic show when there are thousands of unpaid fanfic writers that could pull off a much better story and build these beloved up characters, which leads into my next point.
2. The Characterizations of Ahsoka, Sabine, and Hera Are Bad
Now I have mentioned previously how much I love Ahsoka but damn it upon watching this show, she may as well be dead. Ahsoka has been given the Luke Skywalker treatment in that Ahsoka has been stripped of everything that made her lovable in Clone Wars and Rebels and is left as a sorry shell of who she once was. Her dialouge is hollow and lifeless not like the lively Ashley counterpart that made us all love Ahsoka in the first place. And no don’t give this “well she’s older now” bullshti excuse because Obi Wan Kenobi never lost his cheekiness and charisma as an old man, neither did Yoda, or Leia, etc. Just because you age doesn’t mean you have to be lifeless. Maturity does not equate to emotionless. Secondly for a woman whose well into her fifties and still acts very much like a Jedi Ahsoka’s views on the Jedi and their philosophy seem very warped and the audience is again left confused as to where she stands on the Jedi. I mentioned in a previous post how I couldn’t stand Ahsoka’s negativity towards the Jedi and how nobody seems to matter but Anakin (even though he’s put her through a ton of trauma and has tried to kill her as Vader) because it’s just so distasteful to the people who raised her and loved her that died by genocide no thanks to Anakin. Ahsoka has zero character development other than she seems to forgive Anakin for his wrongdoings despite the nonexistent apology. For a show that has her name on it, she sure is boring. Makes me miss Ashley and old Ahsoka even more.
As for Sabine I probably could write a whole thesis on how unlikeable she is but I’ll keep it short. One, I find it sick on Feloni’s part that he’s having a grown 30+ year old woman act like a teenager and be snarky with just about everyone. Ezra, who annoyed me immensely in Rebels, was WAY more mature and grounded. And again I’m sick and tired of the Mandalorian excuse of you getting to be an asshole because youre Mandalorian. Shut up. No one is above manners and decency. Sabine’s actions in this show have been far from Jedi like and thanks to her immaturity, she left Ahsoka for dead once and is indirectly responsible for the death of New Republic officers who were trying to stop this very dangerous mission that could possibly bring Thrawn and the Empire back ensuing more death and destruction of innocents. Ahsoka deserves to be angry with her for her words and actions, but of course Sabine gets a free pass and her bad behavior will continue to be enabled.
As for Hera…when did she become such a Karen? Just because you’re an officer doesn’t mean you get to abuse your power for your own personal agenda. That Senator was right about her. Finding Thrawn is a threat to the galaxy and using resources and putting lives at risk for it is a big deal. Hera was depicted as honorable and responsible in the Rebels series and I swear I was watching a different person on screen. Also she is a major Sabine enabler and that needs to stop. Sabine is grown and needs to grow up and fix her attitude.
3.) Anakin’s Role In the Show
Now don’t get me wrong, I love Hayden and I love Anakin, I have the dude tattooed on me for Force sake so don’t come at me for that, but I had some issues on how his character was used here. First, I’m tired of Ahsoka’s relevance to Anakin being the only defining trait about her. Second, I’m continuously annoyed by Anakin’s lack of accountability in these shows; he never once apologizes to Ahsoka for all that’s happened, he never once’s has a meaningful conversation with her; he just basically beats her down until she finally lets go of her past. Did I love the Clone Wars flashbacks! YES! They were my favorite part of the entire show and I want MORE of that; but I so wish Anakin could have been reflecting on his own actions with Ahsoka instead of being like “Is ThAt WhAt ThIs Is AbOuT?” Like come on 🙄
4.) Ahsoka’s “It’s Time To Move On” Line
Are you kidding me Ahsoka? There is still so much more to unpack with her past such as all the other relationships she’s had that completely changed her trajectory like BARRISS and REX and she could also be a mentor figure to Luke and Leia, etc. But nope the only thing that matters is getting over Anakin and all is well despite being stranded in another galaxy and Thrawn being unleashed back home. Like THIS IS NOT OKAY!
5.) The Cheap Ass Production of this Show
I’m not normally one to comment on production but it was so obvious in this show how many corners were cut. For one characters like Thrawn look god awful. Dude looking like a blue Elon Musk instead of an intimidating villain. The use of fog and the volume were very obvious and the places we went to were so boring minus the red leaves forest. The worlds of Star Wars used to be so cool and otherworldly but that’s not the case nowadays and it’s sad. Also why does Force ghost Anakin look better in the 2000’s than it does now? I prefer quality over quantity so I really wish Disney would quit churning out these cheaply made productions and have the audacity to rise their Disney plus subscriptions and not pay their people well.
6.) THE RACISM
I’m so fucking tired of this y’all! 🤬 of course make the Jewish actor in the shipyard be greedy and power hungry. Of course make the Asian Senator the asshole and not any of the white protagonists. The antisemitism and racism against POC is unacceptable to me and it should be unacceptable to you too.
Conclusion
I’m sure I’m missing some talking points but these are my biggest grips and as an Ahsoka fan I’m disappointed. Being a miserable Jedi not Jedi responsible for bringing a new evil into the galaxy but being content being stranded in another galaxy is not the future I believe Ahsoka deserves and I sincerely hope they don’t continue this story. It’s just bad all around. Except for the Loth cats… the Loth cats can stay. And Clone Wars flashbacks.
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Queer Star Wars Characters (Round 4): General Bracket Match 1
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Ilyana | Identity: wlw | Media: Jedi Fallen Order/Battle Scars
Ilyana was a young Dathormirian Nightsister who was killed in the massacre of Mother Talzin’s clan. She was close to Merrin. Together they would sneak out to make potions in the Dathomirian swamps. When recovering from an injury, Merrin took care of her, which Ilyana thanked her by giving Merrin the necklace she is always wearing. The gift was given with a kiss, which was Merrin’s first. When Merrin was beginning her relationship with Chellwinark Frethylrin, she remembered her childhood relationship with Ilyana. Whenever Merrin’s necklace struck against her chest, it triggered a sensory memory of Ilyana.
Ilyana was first mentioned in an optional conversation between Merrin and Cere in Jedi Fallen Order. While Merrin was intended as pansexual from the beginning, the conversation merely heavily implied their relationship. Battle Scars clarified the nature of the relationship and added that Ilyana is the origin of Merrin’s necklace.
Sola Naberrie | Identity: aroace | Media: Attack of the Clones/Queen’s Shadow
Sola Naberrie first appeared in deleted scenes from Attack of the Clones where Pamdé brings Anikin to meet her family. She was the older sister of Padmé. Unlike her sister, she had no interest in government. In the novel Queen’s Shadow, she has her first daughter Ryoo on her own through the use of reproductive technology. This was added to establish that the Naboo wouldn’t find Padmé being pregnant on her own unusual. She later had another daughter named Pooja. E K Johnston has clarified that she was written as aroace. Because she wouldn’t marry, she made baby clothes for her children out of her portion of the Naberrie family wedding fabric.
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thatbiologist · 1 year
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Oxventure in Star Wars (Scum and Villainy)
Belco Milqpez, the Human Operative (Pirate).
Zilwa Ti-Pru, the Twi’lek Consular (Force Adept).
Careg Forba, the Human Engineer (Noble).
Lilith Eldru, the Dathormirian Zabrak Monk (Dathormir Witch).
Haloc Bardo, the Yinchorri Fighter (Entertainer).
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vaders-georg · 3 years
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no one:
me: FUCK you *redesigns my own shit*
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carlycrays · 4 years
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Jedi: Fallen Order is great and all, but I feel like I need to clear something up.
Nightsister Merrin definitely had a crush on her childhood friend. Her words about "spending their lives together" really are meant to imply that she was in love. I've seen some fans complain that this basically ruins the game for them or that Merrin was too "young" to be into girls.
The issue with this is that according to canon lore, it makes perfect sense for a young Merrin to fall in love with a fellow Nightsister and have a crush on her. Nightsisters lived in a completely different village from the male Nightbrothers. They only saw each other when they needed the males for sex or blood magic, both of which usually left the poor Zabrak dead. Merrin didn't grow up thinking that she was going to marry a man. She grew up thinking that she would go to the village, select a male, have sex with him, then kill him, and rince and repeat every time she wanted a child.
And then Grievous came and massacred the Nightsisters and left Merrrin alone. We know that there are Dathormirian males left, but they seem content to do what she says. They're her slaves and she treats them as such.
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queer-starwars-bracket · 10 months
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Queer Star Wars Characters (Round 1): General Bracket Match 9
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Fel Ix | Identity: alien transgeder/poly | Media: The High Republic Phase II
Fel Ix was a Kesserine member of the Path of the Open Hand, a gecko-like species. They are born without sex differentiation, and approximately 40% of them mature into egg-bearers, with the being’s will playing a role. In basic, egg bearers use she/her pronouns, but human genders weren’t actually applicable. Fel Ix had two partners, Ferize and Er Dal. The three of them also had five newly hatched children. During a flash-flood on Dalna, the family was saved with the help of Jedi Padawan Kevmo Zink, which began Fel Ix questioning his cult programming.
After the Battle of Jedi, Fel Ix was part of a team assigned by the Mother to disable hyperspace buoys, crippling communications throughout the frontier. The team ran into the Brightbird, a ship participating in the Hyperspace Chase with the goal of rediscovering the mysterious Planet X. Because the crew included the Jedi Padawan Rooper, the meeting turned violent. Fel Ix was taken hostage. While Fel Ix was dragged on their mission, he started to talk with the members of the crew and his cult deprogramming began to break down. However, the goal of reaching Planet X was disrupted when a message from Rooper’s master managed to reach the Brightbird, ordering her to Dalna due to the Path massing there. Worried for his partners and children, it was Fel Ix who convinced Sky to give up looking for their father and travel to Dalna. To a tense standoff in space between Path hired mercenaries and the Jedi/Republic. Convinced by Rooper’s good intentions and her promise that communication was what was needed to prevent more deaths, he agreed to fix the sabotaged communications buoy. Doing so allowed the Jedi forces on Daln to coordinate as well as negotiate with the hired mercenaries, preventing further deaths during the Night of Sorrow. Seeing the Path turn fully violent, Fel Ix’s programming was broken. Fel Ix was released into Jedi custody, but not really a prisoner. He gave them all the information he had, while they promised to help locate his family.
Ilyana | Identity: wlw | Media: Jedi Fallen Order/Battle Scars
Ilyana was a young Dathormirian Nightsister who was killed in the massacre of Mother Talzin’s clan. She was close to Merrin. Together they would sneak out to make potions in the Dathomirian swamps. When recovering from an injury, Merrin took care of her, which Ilyana thanked her by giving Merrin the necklace she is always wearing. The gift was given with a kiss, which was Merrin’s first. When Merrin was beginning her relationship with Chellwinark Frethylrin, she remembered her childhood relationship with Ilyana. Whenever Merrin’s necklace struck against her chest, it triggered a sensory memory of Ilyana.
Ilyana was first mentioned in an optional conversation between Merrin and Cere in Jedi Fallen Order. While Merrin was intended as pansexual from the beginning, the conversation merely heavily implied their relationship. Battle Scars clarified the nature of the relationship and added that Ilyana is the origin of Merrin’s necklace.
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Queer Star Wars Characters (Round 3): General Bracket Match 1
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Ilyana | Identity: wlw | Media: Jedi Fallen Order/Battle Scars
Ilyana was a young Dathormirian Nightsister who was killed in the massacre of Mother Talzin’s clan. She was close to Merrin. Together they would sneak out to make potions in the Dathomirian swamps. When recovering from an injury, Merrin took care of her, which Ilyana thanked her by giving Merrin the necklace she is always wearing. The gift was given with a kiss, which was Merrin’s first. When Merrin was beginning her relationship with Chellwinark Frethylrin, she remembered her childhood relationship with Ilyana. Whenever Merrin’s necklace struck against her chest, it triggered a sensory memory of Ilyana.
Ilyana was first mentioned in an optional conversation between Merrin and Cere in Jedi Fallen Order. While Merrin was intended as pansexual from the beginning, the conversation merely heavily implied their relationship. Battle Scars clarified the nature of the relationship and added that Ilyana is the origin of Merrin’s necklace.
Vaslyn Martz | Identity: nonbinary | Media: Jedi Survivor
Vaslyn Martz is one of the non-story bounty hunter bosses from Jedi Survivor. A Haxion Brood Commando, they are fought in the Fogged Expanse of Koboh. All that is known about them is contained in their database entry: “Vaslyn Martz profited from a long career with the Black Sun before they were strong-armed by Sorc Tormo, who was impressed by Holonet-circulated footage of Martz single-handedly dispatching a senator’s honor guard. Sorc paid the Black Sun handsomely for Vaslyn’s buyout, regardless of their opinion on the matter.”
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Queer Star Wars Characters (Round 4): General Bracket Match 1
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Ilyana | Identity: wlw | Media: Jedi Fallen Order/Battle Scars
Ilyana was a young Dathormirian Nightsister who was killed in the massacre of Mother Talzin’s clan. She was close to Merrin. Together they would sneak out to make potions in the Dathomirian swamps. When recovering from an injury, Merrin took care of her, which Ilyana thanked her by giving Merrin the necklace she is always wearing. The gift was given with a kiss, which was Merrin’s first. When Merrin was beginning her relationship with Chellwinark Frethylrin, she remembered her childhood relationship with Ilyana. Whenever Merrin’s necklace struck against her chest, it triggered a sensory memory of Ilyana.
Ilyana was first mentioned in an optional conversation between Merrin and Cere in Jedi Fallen Order. While Merrin was intended as pansexual from the beginning, the conversation merely heavily implied their relationship. Battle Scars clarified the nature of the relationship and added that Ilyana is the origin of Merrin’s necklace.
Kinni | Identity: wlw | Media: The High Republic Convergence
Kinni was the eldest member of E’ronoh’s Thylefire Squadron, a squadron led by the heir to the planet Xiri Al’baran. She trained the younger members of the squadron such as Xiri, before retiring to become a mechanic. With the resumption of hostilities between Eiram and E’ronoh, she reenlisted as Thylefire Three. She is a pretty minor character in Convergence, but because she references a wife, she’s here.
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Queer Star Wars Characters (Round 2): General Bracket Match 1
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Adriallia/Odellia | Identity: wlw couple | Media: The High Republic Phase II
Adriallia and Odellia are the Queen Regnant and Queen Consort respectively of the planet of Eiram during Phase II of the High Republic (382 BBY). They are the adoptive mothers of Phan-Tu, an orphan from a poorer part of the planet. They led Eiram through the Forever War with E’ronoh, and when Phan-Tu fell in love with the princess of E’ronoh, they supported that attempt to bring peace. However, the first challenge to this peace would be the discovery of the deal Adrellia made with the Mother of the Path of the Open Hand to manufacture Eirami Thylfire scorpion poison in exchange for food and weapon shipments the planet desperately needed. Adriallia’s rule is defined by the hard decisions she needed to make, and ultimately the love and trust she had for her son. 
Ilyana | Identity: wlw | Media: Jedi Fallen Order/Battle Scars
Ilyana was a young Dathormirian Nightsister who was killed in the massacre of Mother Talzin’s clan. She was close to Merrin. Together they would sneak out to make potions in the Dathomirian swamps. When recovering from an injury, Merrin took care of her, which Ilyana thanked her by giving Merrin the necklace she is always wearing. The gift was given with a kiss, which was Merrin’s first. When Merrin was beginning her relationship with Chellwinark Frethylrin, she remembered her childhood relationship with Ilyana. Whenever Merrin’s necklace struck against her chest, it triggered a sensory memory of Ilyana.
Ilyana was first mentioned in an optional conversation between Merrin and Cere in Jedi Fallen Order. While Merrin was intended as pansexual from the beginning, the conversation merely heavily implied their relationship. Battle Scars clarified the nature of the relationship and added that Ilyana is the origin of Merrin’s necklace.
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