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fuckyeahgoodomens · 9 months

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Aziraphale [about Job being talked to by God]: I don't suppose he's getting any answers.

Crowley: No. But just to be able to ask the question.

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magicomens · 4 months

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Happy Merlin finale anniversary to those who celebrate :)

I'm taking a small break from the comic for the holidays, see you in late January with Part 8 and a new story arc!

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#bbc merlin #good omens #crowley #aziraphale #merlin #arthur pendragon #merlin spoilers #magic omens au #comic #art #long post #this “reflection in the tea” transition is ridiculous and i love it #feel free to send me asks btw!! I love talking about the comic and reading yor questions!!

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stvrmaker · 1 month

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Following in @lemmiart ‘s footsteps, I drew the thing in my book 🥺 My friend said this was blasphemous but I plan on dying with this book in my arms, and it makes me happy so… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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vroomvroomwee · 9 months

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Does anyone have a weird feeling about how angels and demons are falling in love more and more and how that connects to the miracle Crowley and Aziraphale performed.

About how the only celestial pairs we see are between an angel and a demon.

About how angels and demons together are insanely fucking powerful. And about how someone doesn't want that power to be known.

Something about separating angels that love each other.

Something about the real reason for the Fall.

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brainwormcity · 4 months

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God really let Crowley down. He was made to Fall simply for asking questions and in a moment not unlike a toxic, strict parent who gets lazy and lets off the reins for some of their favorites, Her expectations changed. Within the first 6 minutes of 02x02, Aziraphale questions God's plans for Job no less than nine times and that's not even including the ones he asks of Crowley in their initial meeting.

Then, to add insult to injury, Crowley literally watches Job openly ask God questions without punishment or reprisal. All that and he still chooses to do what he sees as the right thing, not out of a desire for redemption or praise, (Job pretty well shows that doing the right thing in the name of God doesn't win you any prizes) but because that's just who he is. It's so damned unfair. I love Aziraphale so much, but compared to Crowley, he's been so lucky and given so many exceptions that it almost could be by design.

#good omens #crowley #aziraphale #ineffable husbands #aziracrow #good omens 2 #good omens crowley #good good omens #bildad the shuhite #job good omens #i only ever asked questions

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amagnificentobsession · 2 months

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I keep running this over in my head, and I can’t get rid of it so…….

Aziraphale seems upset when Maggie talks about packing up and leaving the record shop due to her owing him many months of rent. He takes the responsibility off her and puts it onto himself saying, “it’s my fault for not collecting the rent.”

Maggie’s great-grandmother had the first record shop in the corner of Aziraphales “grandfathers” shop.

Maggie tells Nina she “wasn’t that type of teenager,” when Nina is talking about how they used to party and now go to bed at 10pm.

Maggie refuses alcohol, stating she “didn’t like the taste.” And tells Nina “no judgment” when she drinks the wine.

This is where my head keeps saying……..”What?”

When Aziraphale is in Maggie’s record shop and we hear the trumpets sound because of the Archangels coming, Aziraphale says “oh no, that’s not good at all, they’re here, can’t you feel them?”

I never thought much about these things until I realized Aziraphale is asking a HUMAN (?) “can’t you feel them?”

Why would Aziraphale ask a HUMAN if they could feel them? Who is Maggie’s great-grandmother? We KNOW Aziraphale is the grandfather, just like when Shadwell tells Crowley he looks just like his father and Crowley says, “so I’ve been told.”

Questions, questions. I have questions.

#good omens #david tennant #michael sheen #maggie and nina #why would aziraphale ask a human if they could FEEL the archangels coming #aziraphale #crowley #questions #Maggie’s great-grandmother

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multifandom-garbage-compactor · 9 months

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I was thinking about the line “don’t hesitate to ask if you have any more questions about love” and how that could be brought up again in season 3.

I imagine Muriel (who witnessed the divorce) would start asking Crowley questions about love. At first, Crowley would be like “you’re crossing a line- mind your business,” but eventually entertain Muriel’s curiosity because 1) even he realizes he needs to talk to someone 2) they grow fond of Muriel and are able to bond with them out of more than just convinience and necessity 3) and most importantly, Crowley knows better than to punish an angel for asking questions.

#reminder that Muriel’s pronouns are they/them #so that but I lost the plot as I was writing gd #I mean sure Muriel has asked her questions but this is deeper than ‘can I have a book’ you know?#good omens #good omens season 2 #good omens s2 spoilers #good omens season 3 predictions #crowley #muriel #ineffable husbands #ineffable dumbasses #ineffable partners #ineffable parents #ineffable divorce #ineffable family

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drconstellation · 4 months

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Come Back When You Can Make A Whale

This is going to contain some speculation for S3, so you know what to do! Or not do!

SITIS: What did God say? JOB: Um... I'm not sure. I didn't understand much. Things too wonderful for me. Ostriches came into it. SITIS: Ostriches? JOB: And whales. God's very proud of the whale. Went into some detail about... how great whales are. SITIS: But did They explain? JOB: [shakes head] I think the point was, if you want answers, come back when you can make a whale.

Whales, huh?

If you aren't well read, this could be quite the misdirection. It should be reasonably obvious, given who is doing the talking - Job - what he is actually referring to, then we can join a couple of dots to make some speculative leaps.

You still with me?

No? Then let us start with how do you make a whale?

By giving it another name.

Leviathan.

Chapter 41 of the Book of Job is all about the Leviathan, a great sinuous sea serpent with impenetrable scales and breath like fire. It sleeps beneath the sea until the end of days. Over time it came to be associated with any sea monster, then anything large, and what is the largest animal ever known to have lived? The whale.

The top of the matchbox is also worth a look. We have a skull and crossbones, which is classic Memento mori symbolism, fitting in with the resurrection theme of the Second Coming - but look at the way the address of the pub is spelt! Now, this not the same way it is spelt on the record single Maggie gives to Aziraphale; Goatgate is spelt as one word, not two. A little bit of searching reveals the meaning behind this fictional address that backs up and reinforces the quote on the side of the matchbox.

Strong's Concordance for 66 gives us "wild, savage, fierce." Goatgate is an interesting one, because it turns out to be a relatively modern term from the urban dictionary, and I'm just going to refer to the polite version of it here - it's another word for "mouth." So 66 Goatgate is a "fierce and savage mouth." Yes, that does sound about right - in more ways than one, once you know who it is. (If you want to look up the impolite version, go ahead - I'm sure you will still find the connotations very amusing.)

Our metaphorical Leviathan is Crowley. He gave the game away at the end of S1 during the appearance-swap.

This also means Aziraphale is his counterpart, Behemoth. Why - well, I made a bit of joke in my post here that he was playing at being a "river horse" while he wallowed in the bath of holy water during his part of the appearance-swap scene. Modern day scholars think the description of Behemoth in the Bible may be that of a hippopotamus in real life history. If that is so, I'd still be betting this is what the "dark horse" comment from Nina in S2E1 is foreshadowing.

Maybe none of this new to you if you've been hanging around the the fandom for a while. That's fine, I'm just trying to establish the scene. And the next bit we need to talk about is this one, where Job gets a lecture from God.

During this sequence, we hear lines that come from Job 38 and 39.

GOD: Job, if you have questions for me, I have questions for you. Do you know how I created the earth? Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth, Job? Were you there when all the morning stars sang together and all the Angels shouted for joy?

These lines are paraphrasing some of the beginning of Job 38.

Then we have:

GOD: Do you know the rules of the heavens? Did you set the constellations in the sky? Can you send lightning bolts and get them to report back to you? Did you give wings to peacocks, Job, or teach the ostrich to run?

These lines are again, paraphrasing Job, half from 38 and half from 39.

So then, we need to ask, why highlight these lines in particular?

Job 38 is mainly about setting the boundaries of the universe around us. The Earth might seem impossibly huge to a human, but it started with a single stone at its foundation. Earth and the other planets obey certain laws as they move around the Sun. The patterns of the stars in the sky take so long to change that it seems like they are set and inconstant. Even the chaotic form of lightning respects its Creator and returns to its point of origin.

From the last part of Chapter 38 to the end of 39 God challenges Job with a list of animals. The theme here is about freedom and wildness. Whether it is a noble lion, a loathsome crow, a nimble mountain goat, the head-strong wild ox or the willing war horse, they all flourish upon the Earth under the sight of the Almighty. Even the mightiest and most fierce beasts of all, Behemoth and Leviathan, have a place, although only God has the means to control those two.

None of this needs a human to be involved. We are so often the center of our own universe, and try so hard to control every aspect of the world around us that we lose sight of the bigger picture. Shit happens. Some things are out of our control. That doesn't mean its your fault and you're wicked and damned to go to Hell because of it. And that was the point God was trying to make to Job. The world is a far bigger, wilder and chaotic than you can imagine, but its also incredibly beautiful, and it runs itself within the rules and limits that seem to be set by invisible forces you can't see.

So back to the script from the show.

The first set of questions from God could apply to both of the duo. They were both around when Earth was created and were more than likely there when the "morning stars" (the highest angels, such as Lucifer, Gabriel, Michael and angel!Beelzebub) sang together.

The second set of questions are the ones that seem to have got the most attention so far, with ops cross-matching them to things Crowley does in S2.

Do you know the rules of the heavens?

Did you set the constellations in the sky?

Can you send lightning bolts and get them to report back to you?

Did you give wings to peacocks, Job...

(I make a suggestion this has something to do with Michael, but also see comments below)

...or teach the ostrich to run?

The first three of those questions are fairly straight forward, and I doubt many would dispute what they are referring to. But the reference to the peacock and the ostrich are more subtle and curious, and I would like to take a moment to look at the actual verse - because it is only one verse that is providing both questions - that is being paraphrased here.

Job 39:13 Gavest thou the goodly wings unto the peacocks? or wings and feathers unto the ostrich?

Did you realize that the King James Version of the Bible is the only one that mentions peacocks in this particular verse? All the other versions mentions the first sentence of that verse in relation to the wings of ostriches: "The wings of the ostrich wave proudly." The ostrich is considered a cruel and witless bird in the Bible, pleased with the way it looks, and seemingly careless about its young.

Why does that sound familiar...

Shax thinks this ostrich feather-clad angel in disguise isn't too smart either.

So using the peacock line is a curious choice in the script. Other than the "eyes" in the tail of the peacock having a connection to Michael's many watchful eyes on the world, it's still not clear how Crowley helped them upwards. Unless both lines are supposed to refer to Gabriel, and how the vain peacock was helped to both fly and run to a distant location in the stars.

Edit: Since I first wrote this, @beebopboom pointed me to some more peacock lore, and this helped me delve a bit deeper into them. Peacocks were associated with wealth and royalty, but they were also associated with immortality in early Christian beliefs. There was a belief that the flesh of the peacock did not decay after its death. The bright colours in its tail came from its eating venomous snakes, which reminded people of Christ becoming sin for humanity's sake (think of Crowley downing the laudanum to save Elspeth from Hell in the crypt in 1827, its a similar action.) The "eyes" on the males tail also represented the all-seeing eye of God. So we have a connection with both royalty and resurrection here.

(Oh - just as an interesting connection here - a number of the newer versions of the Bible not only don't mention the peacock in this verse, they compare the ostrich to the stork! The meaning is meant to be that the stork cares more for their young than the ostrich, but if you read the words at face value, you could take a double meaning away...)

Let us return to questions, answers, and whales.

Questions. Always questions. It's like the proverbial toddler who's always asking a never-ending string of "but, why?" for funsies and you just want them to shut up for a moment and think about the last thing you said first. They, too, are a bit like Job. They are the center of their own universe at that age, having not had much experience of the world. They have no grasp of how far it extends beyond them, and how little even we as adults know.

If at this point you're going "oh, no, no, no, no, op, please don't tell me the point of this meta is it's all ineffable," relax. I'm not.

The point was to set you up for some nice, juicy, awesomely sweet S3 speculation.

Because I believe Crowley will finally get to ask his questions of God.

(oh lordy, I made the mistake of taking a break to have a shower before trying to finish this off, because I was having trouble seeing how to finish this in a tidy way, and that caused me to have "shower thoughts" and now the nice sweet simple speculation has turned into a slightly bat-shit crazy kind-of one, although still on the same track as what I was originally thinking. Here goes...)

We have this three card spread from waaay back at the beginning of S1. We all think its something to do with the three babies.

What if its not?

Because we need something like this to happen again - Aziraphale and Crowley either side of a third protagonist. What if it's the King of Kings, Love personified, Jesus, in the middle? (Or Adam again, I wouldn't discount that option either...)

If you would look at the GIF and the screenshot together again and go, well that makes, sense, white for the angel on the right, and green for the demon on the left, I would jump up and shout at you - NO!

Look at the cards again! In the Tarot, that's the Ace of Swords on the right - it belongs to Aziraphale. It's a very powerful card, about new beginnings and change.* Lets call the one of the left Knight of Wands, which also represents the element of Fire. Knights are all about movement and journeys. Who owns the Bentley? And look what Gabriel has instinctively done with his hands - he has held his screen-left hand out to Aziraphale, the Sword, the angel who wears green, and his right hand out to Crowley, the Knight of Fire. The yin and yang qualities are actually swapped. That was what I was trying to tell you in this post. They aren't as obvious as they seem at first glance.

And love is the answer, it turns out. Did you see my comment the other day on another post? In Strong's Concordance 25 = to love.

Anyway, we should get a third parallel scene somewhat like this, and like when Aziraphale and Crowley took Adam out of time to talk to him in S1.

Only this time the three of them (with who ever is in the middle) should be having a talk with God about what is or isn't supposed to happen.

JOB: I think the point was, if you want answers, come back when you can make a whale.

Crowley could be a literal serpent (though I would be very surprised if he did manifest that way) but it should be a metaphorical Leviathan that stands before the Almighty to ask his questions and get his answers. And it will be that he has earned the right to be there, because he finally understands the lessons of Job.

@makewayforbigcrossducks I hope this answers one of your questions

*The Ace of Swords speaks of new beginnings, but it is a two-edged sword that can cut both ways. It is strength in adversity, victory out of struggle, good out of evil, a change in the old order on the way.

#good omens #good omens 2 #good omens meta #crowley #aziraphale #job minisode #book of job #leviathan #behemoth #i only ever asked questions #come back when you can make a whale #gabriel #shax #did you give wings to peacocks?#teach the ostrich to run #king of kings #king of hearts #yin to his yang

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accio-motivation · 2 months

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her eyes were the stars, her lips the galaxy's edge.

she was a lovely, broken universe all in her self.

#angel!crowley owns my entire heart #little baby bean just wanted to create stars and ask her questions #angel!crowley #good omens #crowley #ineffable husbands #crowley fanart #good omens fanart #david tennant #aziracrow

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doomedlemur · 5 months

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Always Asking Damn Fool Questions

You know how Crowley easily recognized the Metatron when all the angels in the room were drawing a blank?

That's because he has personally spoken to the Metatron far more than any other being in that room.

Think about it...

Aside from the rare meeting about apocalypses or supreme-archangel behavior, when does an angel talk to the Metatron? When they try to talk to God.

Who probably tried to talk to God more than any other angel/future-demon in existence?

She had an awful lot of questions. The Metatron remembers him for it. Can't you just imagine our red-haired angel with greying wings ringing up the Metatron every other day with a new litany of questions, trying to get through to God? (We see in the Job minisode how astonished and jealous they are that Job is getting to ask his questions directly.)

Plus we know they had high clearance in heaven, so likely had no trouble getting frequent face time with the Voice of God.

Sure it was a long time ago, but Crowley would have talked to the Metatron all the time before the Fall, and so remembers the face very well. None of the other angels there would have dared seek a council so often.

#all he ever did was ask questions #crowley #good omens #good omens 2 #the starmaker #the metatron #good omens meta #anthony j crowley

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the-thinking-creature · 3 months

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I was thinking about the fact that the Metatron seems to have real hatred towards Crowley and not just because he's a demon. I think everyone saw the glare he gave him when Aziraphale wasn't looking.

Where can this hatred come from?

And why doesn't Crowley say anything to Aziraphale when he tells him about the Metatron's offer?

#probably something between these two that hasn't been revealed yet #yes these questions have surely already been asked #but I'm 4 months late #good omens #crowley #good omens s2 #good omens fandom

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