#belittling even? maybe?

[cat-downthestreet]

hey, listen! this is a rant post about neurodivergent characters in Genshin and my frustration with the fandom's reading comprehension skills. if you're in a bad place or just don't like angry rants, please don't force yourself and go read something else instead. <3

Okay, so, I watched this video recently, and let's just say, I have some thoughts.

https://youtu.be/tYK3297p4rk?si=eMaf8NF57HFlUhfd

This isn't just a Xiao problem- the entire fandom is terrible at characterization. The example that makes me the most angry is the mischaracterization of neurodivergent characters.

Take Alhaitham for example. He's often seen as rude and narcissistic by the fandom- which is especially apparent in Haikaveh content, where people portray him as straight up abusive.

You wanna know why this makes me so mad? The supposedly narcissistic and rude traits Alhaitham has are actually just exaggerated symptoms of autism.

Like, come ON, people. Don't skip dialogue. Better yet, go read through his story quest again. He straight up tells someone who sees him as narcissistic that he doesn't see others as less than himself. Also, his voicelines basically confirm this- he's extremely socially inept and he doesn't care. He has difficulty showing emotions as readily as his peers- that doesn't mean he doesn't have them, just that he expresses them differently. He comes across as rude because he doesn't get that people don't like to hear what they're doing wrong, and he probably doesn't care because that's not his problem. If people don't like how blunt he is, that's their problem. At least, that's how I think he views the world.

And like, there are SO many hints that he's autistic. He wears sound-blocking earpieces, for crying out loud. Hell, the ENTIRE REASON why he helped out during the Archon quest was because he didn't want his life to change too much. Preferring routine is an autistic trait.

And the worst part is, when I talk about this outside of neurodivergent groups, people tell me I'm wrong and that he couldn't be autistic DESPITE THOSE PEOPLE NOT BEING AUTISTIC THEMSELVES.

And I'm not saying that every autistic person relates to Alhaitham, but I certainly do. And I'm actually quite friendly because I'm anxious about being rejected. Alhaitham isn't, and I'm so jealous of him for that. He's living his best life.

Finally, back to the Haikaveh thing... Alhaitham isn't abusive. He doesn't say horrible things to Kaveh, and the one example of him doing that I could find, he immediately backtracked and subtly tried to make Kaveh feel better. Hell, Alhaitham doesn't even actually care about making sure Kaveh pays rent. He says it as a joke, but because he's autistic and his tone of voice doesn't give that away as well, he's portrayed as abusive and misunderstood as narcissistic. Y'all just don't like neurodivergent people and it shows.

Yes, neurodivergent includes Xiao. PTSD is often viewed as a form of neurodivergency, and there are many MANY characters in Genshin that have PTSD or some other form of neurodivergence. Yet people refuse to see them as such and mischaracterize them as "edgy," "narcissistic," "unapproachable," "weird," and the like. Yet none of these characters are any of those things.

You wanna know the true narcissists? The true edgelords? The actually rude people? Might I direct your attention to Scaramouche, Childe, and Dottore, whom everyone makes out to be as misunderstood pathetic little meow meows that need love.

Reminder that only two of those three are actually redeemable, and one is STILL an edgelord who is more rude than Alhaitham could ever be, while the other is a certified insane person with a weird set of morals.

(Side note: I love Scaramouche and Childe as characters. I'm just tired of people acting like they aren't worse than the autistic characters. Scaramouche is extremely rude, but he's trying to be better as Wanderer thanks to Nahida's help. He has severe PTSD, and Childe does, too. But both of them are actually messed up and have done horrible things, yet people portray them as better and more in need of love than the characters with unlikable (read: neurodivergent) traits.)

Don't even get me started on how people portray Kokomi, Sucrose, Fischl, Diluc, Zhongli, Cyno, Furina, Neuvillette, and Albedo. Especially that last one- I WILL get mad if one more person tries to tell me he's just emotionless and rude.

Also, if anyone is wondering where I've seen people misunderstanding these characters, it's mostly on Hoyolab site discussions. There's one too many posts talking about how "rude" and "annoying" these characters are.

With Alhaitham especially, I see many people writing him as abusive in Haikaveh content. I see people arguing about the ship being toxic because Alhaitham is "abusive," "unfeeling," and "cruel." Even people who like the ship portray him as such. And I've seen too many people comparing him to Dr. Ratio, who is literally just a narcissist who views others as beneath him. Don't get me wrong, I understand the comparison. It's just... very obvious that people skipped dialogue during Genshin's Archon and story quests.

And it's frustrating because I've been misunderstood in the exact same way. I've been called "rude," "annoying," and "unfeeling" in the past and it's screwed me up. Seeing people do the same thing to a character I so deeply relate to makes me lose confidence in both myself and people around me.

If that's how you view a fictional character with autistic traits, how do you treat real people with the same traits?

Thanks for reading this far. My previous post seemed to get a lot of attention, so I felt more confident about posting my full perspective on this subject. Can any of you think of other characters that have been constantly misunderstood in the fandom? I'd love to hear about it.

#autism #autistic #mischaracterization #genshin impact #genshin xiao #alhaitham #haikaveh #autistic characters #rant post #autistic vent #neurodivergent #ptsd #i just wish things were different #if people like me were seen as normal this wouldn't be happening #but here we are #people need to understand what autism actually looks like #because if they did then maybe they wouldn't treat characters that are autistic the same way they treat actually autistic people #or better yet #maybe they would even stop excluding and belittling us for being different #but that's just my opinion

[fromtheseventhhell]

I’ll never forget how insecure Stansa’s got when the Key Five was revealed, complained about it and then to cope they created the ‘Core Six’ and actually ties into their continuous stream of passing of fanon as canon and at the same time being the usual delusional bunch they’ve always been

What's really funny is that they still confidently claim that the Key Five doesn't mean anything, solely because she isn't a part of it. The Core Six is a completely fanon invention but people talk about it like it's fact. They want her to be more important than she is so badly that they're straight up ignoring the author. And yes, until otherwise stated by George, the Key Five are still a thing. Tbh I'm not sure if there was ever a time that they engaged with the source material though? A lot of them came from the show (*cough*fanfiction) so that's where a majority of their takes are coming from. That's why we get people saying things like "Sansa charmed George off the page" or "Sansa took Arya's place as George's favorite Stark sister". They just desperately want the show to match up with the books. What's annoying is that her not being a part of the Key Five doesn't mean she isn't important, but people take it as hate towards her. It's sad that the only version of her they like is her fanon one.

#ask #anon #key five #anti sansa stans #the way people think they can just decide who the main characters are is insane #if the author himself is telling you /here are my main characters/ then maybe idk he considers those his main characters #also the fact that they're his favorite and he's constantly talking about how important they are but who cares about that? #we all know fanon is more important 🤪 #/it's unfair/ to say she isn't a key five even though they belittle Arya and Dany like they get paid for it #rip to people who think Sansa replaced Arya as grrms favorite stark sister cause he loves that little girl 😭 #he constantly says it has her in every book has a novella's worth of chapters for her in braavos has her connected to multiple plotlines... #she's the princess of the key five for a reason

[karamazovanon]

completely random observation but i truly love how so many of my notifications are from lesbian flag pfps/urls/etc. lesbians just fucking love dostoevsky!!! what is it about his work that resonates so hard with us. is it the existential struggle against repressive social institutions and expectations. is it the immense internal anguish & rage barely concealed by a paper-thin veil of politeness out of fear of impropriety that finally overflows explosively. is it the spiteful female characters tormented by the narrative. is it the murder

#honestly i do think theres something interesting about how media with themes of power and destructive rage MASSIVELY appeal to lesbians #tbh even women in general #i cant articulate it exactly but there is something so cathartic for women (especially lesbians) #in like lises rage and self sabotage or grushenkas tragic struggle for power as a poor woman or dunyas self assurance and chosing mercy #even outside of female characters because theres still. a LOT of criticism to be had there #it is so cathartic to see smerdyakov (constantly belittled and demeaned and dehumanized) use that to his advantage and claim a modicum of #control against the man who brought him into the world against his will to be subjugated!! #idk maybe its just me but it makes sense that narratives about the outsider struggling for control against those in power by any means #possible would resonate with lesbians #i feel like im not wording anything right but whatever #maybe one day ill write an actual post about it #anontalks #i too am a spiteful woman tormented by the narrative

[borom1r]

look there r critiques to be made abt the characterization of movie!Faramir but he’s actually so important to me. the fact he Is tempted and that his temptation mirrors Boromir’s in that they’re both centered around love means so much to me, actually

#Boromir’s love for his people vs Faramir’s desire to be loved by Denethor #showing how much Denethor Had whittled away at Faramir. #*would* he have been tempted by the ring if he hadn’t been constantly belittled by his own father? I think that’s a valid question #or even if Boromir had been alive #in that moment Faramir had lost the one person in his direct family that cared for him genuinely and openly #like Denethor is all he had left. and Denethor cannot stand him. Denethor wishes he was dead. #*but maybe if he returns with the ring* <- and that is like. soso important to me for realsies #not to mention the arc of him overcoming the temptation before it’s too late and sending Frodo and Sam on their way #which like. As A Boromir Enjoyer. I think is so critical #like. if you raised someone. wouldn’t you hope that they’d take what they learned from you and become better? not repeat your mistakes? #Boromir adored his brother and Faramir was tempted but he didn’t fall. he learned and he became better. he didn’t repeat Boromir’s mistakes #idk I think obviously there are things that work in a book that don’t work on film and I really do enjoy movie Faramir I think they #crafted a very cool little guy #lotr

[paperstarry]

waiting for someone to write an analysis of Melinda Desmond based on the latest chapter bc I sure as hell do not know how to put all that into words

#sxf #spy x family #melinda desmond #like???? she does love her son a lot and worries about him #but at the mention of her husband she get's disgusted #her hatred towards donovan probably comes from the indifferent way/the pressure he puts on her beloved son #and the way it makes damian belittle himself and feel pressured to be perfect #on the other hand (i just checked the last page again) #(based on the wiki) melinda's and donovan's relationship is described as strained #maybe she feels like Damian is something that makes her tied to donovan #so she has to stay at his side even though she hates him #hmmmmmmmmmmmmm #talk about abut split opinions

[oscill4te]

Theres an unfinished mini essay about lucien cramp in my drafts rn

#its been sitting there for a few weeks i remember writing so much and getting screenshots from the book for it #lucien is such an interesting protagnoist. basically.. he doesnt fit at all in his family #hes mocked and belittled by all of them actually #he is an activist and critical thinker at a young age and he is shunned by everyone for it; even his teachers #he is very hypervigilant (as seen in the book. makes sense w his brother constantly beating him at random) #he is an overthinker for sure; as seen in the book Twinsani-. oh im just rewriting the draft at this point. lol #txt #i relate to lucien a lot ik i dont talk abt him much but i hate how people say hes an annoying or bad protagonist.. #i sometimes wonder if they made lucien that way to mock people like him or if it was genuine #bc in the first book he didnt have much of a personality other than “f e a r” #he was just a quiet bystander mostly but i think in the first book they are a bit younger than in tge show. thats just a headcanon tho #but anyways maybe thats why #i wonder how much of the show was directed by brian wood. obviously many changes were made!!

[dykeinthedark]

ok i am going to #rant because i am so sick and not to sound like a lesbian who is a hater but i lit rally hate men sorry. i was with a group of guys (queer guys, but still guys nonetheless) last night and i was the only presumed woman there --- despite many other afab nonbinary people, they only referred to me as she/her the entire time while respecting everybody else's pronouns --- and the complete lack of respect they treated me with was kind of amazing. this one guy was the worst he was basically if john bender from the breakfast club was bisexual and he was genuinely probably the worst guy there. he was like the leader? of our group (like john bender type) and we almost got into hella trouble because of him, but he would constantly belittle my feelings. at one point he asked me and my trans guy friend to wait out on the street at like 2 am and when my friend was like uhh we're both afab like i don't feel super safe and only when i pitched in like yeah me neither he was like "Well Actually i think that recently amab people have been at a higher risk for violence as a whole. because afabs stick together but male socialization discourages that" and i forget the rest of what he said but like i see what he was saying in response to trans women, but just SAY trans women/gnc people oh my god man. be SO real right now. idk. that read very much to me like a very Woke And Progressive Way To Be Subtly Misogynisitc. am i crazy for thinking that's an insane point to make WHILE ALSO belittling two nonwhite non cishet people's feelings of unsafety like helloooo?? people who say deranged takes only exist online have never hung out with a pseudo intellectual who snorts ketamine daily

#THAT WASN'T EVEN EVERYTHING HE DID #HE ALMOST GOT US ARRESTED for something stupid like hopping the turnstile but STILL HAVE U FUCKING MET THE NYPD #also he was constantly belittling my opinions and emotions like refused to let me go back to my place real quick to drop my stuff #I DIDN'T EVEN GET BACK TO MY PLACE UNTIL 7 AM. #and also blamed us not getting into the rave because i (and 2 others) looked like 'prepubescent children' #generally he was pretty rude too like straight up leaving me out of conversations and jokes and such. i felt so alone #still i ended the night getting fingered by my crush so maybe i won idk #rant post

[queerlyquillish]

ok but the thing is that "hurt" is an adjective, verb, and noun. so the linguistic poeticism is still there, albeit in a slightly different way. yes, "hurt" as a description of a person's state holds true across tenses because it is indeed an adjective, but the fact remains that it's a lexicologically interesting word! personally, what i find really neat is that "hurt" is both an intransitive verb used for the person being wounded and a transitive verb for the act of wounding someone. it's an intriguing concept to think of pain as something that draws connections between people. something that weaves together victim and perpetrator in some inseparable way. that you can't hurt someone without it changing you as well. idk what exactly that says about pain as a human experience, and it's a lot of using imagination and metaphor to extract and extend meaning from language, but it's still fascinating!

#also hot take the culture of dunking on people for mistakes for the sake of likes or reblogs is a toxic part of this website #and the whole internet in general tbh #like #of course people make mistakes. not everyone has spent hours researching linguistics. #that doesn't make them stupid #your knowledgeability of grammar doesn't make you intellectually superior #maybe your pretentiousness about it actually just makes you unkind #just a thought #op was just excited about the idea that even words capture the lasting nature of pain #you don't need to belittle them and stomp on their joy just because they made a syntactical error #you can tell people they're mistaken without being a dick about it #and i LOVE linguistics and connecting with other language nerds getting overly excited about the magic of words #but having that as an interest doesn't make me inherently better than other people? #i'm not god's prettiest little princess just because i get excited about lexicology more than the average person #and all of this would still be true even if “hurt” wasn't a cool multipurpose word!! #just. people should be able to not know everything about a topic and not be ridiculed for it #horribly cheesy middle school posters were RIGHT bullying isn't as cool as you think it is #ok this post about yay words has turned into an overarching critique of the lack of human empathy and grace #time for me to shut up #linguistics #languages #language stuff #lingblr

[zaggyzoo]

had such a bad and exhausting shift and my mom isn't even at home to tell her about it ☹️

#it's been a while since i wanted to cry on the ride back home #and it's maybe the first time i was about to cry right there at work. there was a queue of like three carts too so they probably saw me all #red mouth like this ☹️ trying my hardest not to cry on their groceries 👍👍👍 #all because of a comment a middle aged man said. i felt so belittled for something that wasn't even all my fault #and so i said something but that made me feel even worse so 👍 #idk why i didn't stay silent and that's it but i told this man to not mock me (obviously he said it's wasn't mocking) but confrontation #makes me cry so. and I can't believe his wife didn't say anything while this man treated me like that i would have been so embarrassed to #have a husband like that #and then it was just such a tiring shift with lots of people and i was all alone with the other cashiers far down from my register #ugh

[ruairy]

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#i have a manager who...reads as neurodivergent (to me as a provoably nd person) #like he just has some mannerisms #the way he speaks that everyone else says is awkward or weird #and everyone os always complaining about him and that they dont like him and hes creepy and always asking stupid questions #which makes me feel vaguely uncomfortable when my coworkers are saying such things about....nd traits...... #everyone looks at me weird or shocked when i say i like him and i get along with him lmao #like my guys maybe the problem actually lays with all of u #likes yes ok hes strict w ppl that dont follow the rules but hes also really nice #hes literally always nice to me #he was the only manager who was nice to me when i basically started crying at work bc the other managers thought i was lying when i #said i couldn't do certain duties bc of my anxiety disorder (all cerfied by hr if they had just bothered to liten to me instead of #belittling me in front of everyone lmao) #like if u dotn fuck around or argue with him about stupid shit hes one of the nicest managers we have lmao #he was also immediate on the uptake of my name change and didn't even question it and even told me to go get my name tag officially changed #and then asked to see and gave me a thumbs up when i came back with my new name tag lol #he's nice!!! ur all just ableist!!??

[whogirl42]

So I like... I really don't know how I feel about the whole bi-regeneration thing.

Something that sours it for me is like... I was so upset that we were only gonna get the 3 eps with 14 and Donna - ideally for me we would have had a whole season or even a half-season to do them justice. It made me sad that I'd have to say goodbye to them so soon. Tho I did take comfort in that there'd basically be an open invitation for Donna cameos in the future, in a similar way to the Kate Stewart and Unit ones.

HOWEVER. Now??? As much as I fucking adore Donna and David Tennant as the Doctor... I kinda never wanna see them on screen again??? Cause I feel like it sorta cheapens the concept of the 15th Doctor and all the other future adventures he'll have. It was one thing with Tentoo cause he was banished to another universe and was limited to a mortal's lifespan. But having two fully fledged Doctors??? Both with Tardises??? In the same universe???

It doesn't just cheapen the 15 Doctor and all future Doctors, imo it also cheapens David Tennant himself. Because there's a bittersweet beauty in letting go. In saying goodbye. Of accepting the next phase in life. The bi-regeneration doesn't do that. There's no closure. There's no faint loss accompanying the joyous rebirth. It's just.

It just feels very emotionally hollow.

#And it's so so annoying cause I was LOVING the episode till the bi-regeneration thing #But that moment really took me out of the episode #Suddenly I was watching some sort of parody or Red Nose Day segment #Fun maybe but ultimately hollow #And it honestly soured the episode for me #Imo the bi-regeneration never should've happened #Also - it was a beautiful way to say goodbye to 14! A gorgeous moment! And juxtapositioning 'I don't want to go' with 'Alonsy'? *chefs kiss* #We could have had Ncuti finish the episode #Secure to go on adventuring in the Tardis knowing he has his extended family waiting for him on earth for holidays and brunches and whenever #It could have been a beautiful homage #Honouring the past and carrying it with while continuing on to the future #THAT'S how the episode should have ended #Not this cheap parody badly written fanfiction #AND ANOTHER THING - as much as I fucking adore Donna the Doctor HAS slowed down before and had family #He had it with the Ponds he had 900+ years on Trenzalore he had it 24 years on Darillium with River #he had it for decades while at the University guarding Missy #THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THE DOCTOR HAS DONE THIS #And to act like this is the First Time™ or the Only Time That Matters™ cheapens the Doctor's journey and all past relationships #It ignores and belittles everything that came after 10 regenerated and in doing so Donna herself is cheapened #Because it puts her on this shiny pedestal above all others that kind of makes me resent her a little even tho I fucking adore her #Like she's my gd profile pic for gods sake but this Golden Child™ treatment really rubs the wrong way #doctor who #dw spoilers #Dw #David Tennant #biregeneration #14th doctor #ncuti gatwa #15th doctor #doctor who 60th anniversary

[collectivenothingness]

what is even the point... >.<

#cis society fucking sucks #it's always either distraction or having problems belittled... getting zero respect... being misgendered or treated like a child by #supposedly 'supportive' people... fuck. what is the point?? begging for dignity and happiness and suffering everyday until cis people think #I deserve a little better maybeeee #asfskafashbgfhjasfbvgvfbb #what the fuck is the point of it #my happiness or even dignity are never the priorities. I am just some fucking wind-up toy #just getting talked down to and belittled and asashfklasghflasfg #yeah just shut up and take it Lily just fucking endure it. maybe we will pass the law lmao maybe you will get some sort of payoff at the en

[dearreader]

and the arguments that i have won against you in my head; in the car, in the shower, and in the mirror before bed…

yeah i’m so tough when i’m alone and i make you feel so guilty and i fantasize about a time you’re a little fuckin’ sorry-

and i try to ꪊꪀᦔꫀ𝕣ડ𝕥ꪖꪀᦔ why you would do this all to me. ‘you must be insecure. you must be so unhappy.’

and i know in my heart: hurt people, hurt people. and we both drew blood, but man those cuts were

ɴᴇᴠᴇʀ ꜰᴜᴄᴋɪɴɢ ᴇQᴜᴀʟ!!

and i try to be tough. but i wanna scream ‘HOW COULD ANYBODY DO THE THINGS YOU DID SO EASILY?’

and i say that i don’t care.

say that i’m fine.

but you know i can’t let it go, i’vetriedi’ve triedi’vetried for so long… it takes s⃞   t⃞   r⃞   e⃞   n⃞   g⃞   t⃞   h⃞ to forgive but i don’t feel ₛₜᵣₒₙg

#which ever hacker leaked my notes app rants i used as diaries to olivia rodrigo to write this song owe me an apology #no but the fact that she literally put thoughts and feelings and things i’ve done when i’m completely alone #things that i hate because i hate the power it means people still have over me #and she just put it down and released it to the world #she perfectly summarized my two year battle alone with dealing with my trauma in a single song #especially the ‘how could anybody do the things you did so easily?’ #because everything i’ve ever said on the situation leaves people speechless and it also makes me realize just how bad it was #like she infiltrated every friend group in a sorority just to get VP and then (maybe unintentionally) turned everyone against me #because she hated me and warned everyone not to be like me (one of my friebds told me she intentionally distanced herself from me because #people thought she’d be the next ‘kelly’ and be annoying and she said she didn’t want that for her. and i’m not even mad at her #because i probably would’ve done the same thing if the tables were turned.) and she did this all while my father was DYING of the most #aggressive form of brain cancer OR had just died #and even tried to comfort me 2 days after he died by saying ‘i was allowed to feel this was because i would be feeling it for the rest of #my life’ #she did everything to me #tried to steal my best friend and drive a wedge between us #destroy the relationship i’d built with my pledge class that the sorority insisted on building and developing for each pledge class #made fun of me liking taylor swift #reminded me constantly i wasn’t wanted in the sorority #belittled my knowledge of things and automatically assumed if i said something it was false until a second party agreed with me #she just did all that without batting an eye #told me to my face and over text she never did anything wrong #like… the song just describes it perfectly #pinky tag #kelly babels #sorority tag #the grudge #kelly listens to music

[francis-mulcahys-angels]

My cousins and brother are lowkey drunk and they came over to the room that I’m staying in and ugh I’m so uncomfortable :/

#their all underage(drinking age wise and legal age wise) #and their acting weird and off putting in a bad way:/ #their drunk behavior reminds me of my father which is always great🥲 #and my mom didn’t even reprimand my brother :: #she said she didn’t see anything so she can’t do anything and ugh #she always tells me that I’m not able to drink until I’m 21 and she frequently belittles me #and part of me understand why(as my fathers part of my family has an alcohol problem but it’s just ugh #I’m 19 and like ?????! #and the way my brother can make mistakes and fuck up and shit and not be reprimanded that much or not even but I fuck up a little or shit #and I get in trouble and it’s my fault and god she makes me feel so guilty #like the pressure of being the oldest daughter fucks me up and god #but my mom did say sorry that i didn’t drink a buzz ball because maybe I would of been happy atm and ugh #I’m 19 and I have no life no friends and god #my aunt telling me earlier that her and my mom would not survive without me or her oldest daughter and god #oldest daughters are victims ffr #now their being racist??? homophobic?!?and anti abortion?!?! #*deadnames* a good little girl because she didn’t drink- no bitch #I’m so tired of everything #I want friends i want a life #I just want to get out the house and live a little #this is probably coming off a bit whiny and childish but it’s just I wish I would be taken seriously as a young adult #my choices are not taken seriously or their always wrong #I’m so young but my life has is already going so wrong #when I’m back in Illinois I’m going to enroll in college and try my hardest to befriend people because jesus I can’t give up so early #my Texas trip is an up and down mess #the yesterday trip to the beach fucked me up #it didn’t make it easy that my mom got mad at me for being a bit annoyed because of my headache and she belittled my comfort food #sorry I didn’t want to eat subway #I didn’t want to eat it:/ #and sushi was not enough of a comfort food

[gameofthronedd]

Ngl something about people stanning Rhaenyra & wholeheartedly supporting her as a BAMF anti-patriarchy protagonist but calling Alicent a myriad of names, belittling & disregarding her traumas etc. Grosses me out fr.

It doesn't surprise me because it happens quite a bit on social media but some of the shit I've seen people write without an ounce of self-awareness just baffles me. The lack of sympathy boggles my mind, seriously 😐

#hypocrite #love women #she wanted it #alicent wanted to fuck viserys #house of the dragon #hotd #rhaenyra targaryen #alicent hightower #especially when alicent is a but nyra stans are supposedly the ones who and want to emancipate women etc. #even worse is when alicent gets victim-shamed & belittled & accused of putting HERSELF in horrific situations aka #where is sympathy? where is self-awareness? #skskks i just hate it when ppl act like they care about women and then spit vile stuff at other women #obvs can work vice versa but i tend to see more hate towards alicent than nyra (but it isn't okay in either direction!!) #some of the worst takes are like and shit like that #idk if you're supporting team black for a woman to be on the throne & you're anti-patriarchy etc. but saying the vilest shit... #towards alicent then i don't think you can call Alicent a hypocrite #I'm always tentative about labelling things as like misogynistic and whatnot but some of the things I've read are like borderline... #misogynistic talking points #i can understand maybe not liking alicent #but being unable to have even a shred of sympathy or empathy for her not so much esp when you're all yeehaw for feminism & Rhaenyra etc #this is worded awfully but you get the picture lol

[orcelito]

asshole commenter didnt reply to my thing so. ????? guess they just decided to leave it at that????

#speculation nation #i'd like to think me pointing out both the objective falsehoods they were saying #as well as laying out in detail how i came to my own interpretations of akechi's character #(albeit in an abridged way. i could ramble for Hours on analysis of his character. and have. lol.) #maybe this made them reconsider replying??? #like Perhaps realizing they werent exactly in the right here #like ya kno different interpretations happen. if u wanna assume akechi's an irredeemable monster i cant stop you #i just cant get over the fucking. 'wakaba was uncommonly saintly for a single mother in japan' #& saying for sae that 'he constantly belittles or tricks into giving him food while plotting to kill her and pin it on the Thieves' #literally what are you TALKING about????????? #aside from the objective incorrect claim that he was plotting to kill her & frame the phantom thieves for it #he's a teenager??? like???? yea he's obnoxious puppydog eyes about it but he's literally a teen & she's an adult #there's no 'tricking' her into buying food for him lmao. she's an intelligent woman and she can tell if she's being 'tricked' #this is literally just her teenage coworker mooching off her for food. it's not that weird. #& belittling her?? he makes One kinda snide comment about 'stress being the enemy of beauty' but it's One line #and not even that big of a deal. she just brushes it off. other than that he really shows constant respect for her #talking to her. listening to her opinions. he's really more gracious with her than he is with Most people #honestly that whole comment was just like. What the fuck are you Talking about #'i do like akechi as a character' 'you have to interpret his backstory in the most favorable light for him to be anything other than #a deeply monstrous man.' like Geeze agree to disagree. also are you sure you like him #bc you sound really angry about him actually #like GEEZE i never said he was a good person. he's done a lot of awful shit & has a rude and bitchy personality #but there are good qualities to him too. and he loves so deeply that it corrupted him (in his pursuit for revenge for his mom) #(which is. at its core. anger due to how things happened with her. born from LOVE for her. see the theme here?) #anyways im gonna just let it rest after this (assuming they dont reply again) bc i dont wanna exhaust myself #i was just utterly astounded by how badly they misinterpreted like Every facet of his character. like. Ok.