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azfell-ajcrowley · 3 months

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The offers that can't be refused: the Metatron-Beelzebub parallels.

Because people keep telling Crowley said no, Aziraphale said yes. Oh, God, give me strength.

Crowley said he rejected Hell's offer, but did he? Let's compare the Beelzebub's and Metatron's methods. Let's find the parallels between the scenes.

The appearance of the superiors is accompanied by bell ringing in both cases.

Crowley and Aziraphale are unpleasantly surprised, they exclaim their superiors' names. Why would such high-ranking bosses personally visit a traitors' hideout?

They remind about the arrangement with their superiors.

The threats: the direct one from Hell, the veiled one from Heaven.

The change of guises.

The flattery.

The knowledge of the Earth as the deciding factor for their choices.

The mentions of Gabriel. It's logical for the conversation with Beelzebub, because the Prince's of Hell motives are already clear. Crowley was summoned for the purpose of finding their beloved Archangel.

What is the reason the Metatron mentions him? And as a benchmark for assessing Aziraphale's actions. From the point of view of the Voice's of God manipulative art, one can understand why. Aziraphale cannot be evaluated on the Michael or Uriel scale, because he himself considers them as bad angels.

And finally, the position offers. Crowley nodds while looking at Beelzebub, Aziraphale says he don't want to go to Heaven.

Bonus: the threats of erasing from the Book of Life. Crowley rushes to Aziraphale intending to save him. And Aziraphale having received additional threats from the Metatron tries to reproduce their conversation for Crowley.

They're the same, Your Honour!

Crowley has refused to be a Duke of Hell just like Aziraphale has agreed to be a Supreme Archangel. Neither of them have responded yes or no.

It's clear this demon lied to Beelzebub, but his angel is also very experienced in this matter. And Aziraphale is accused of doing exactly as Crowley did. Without a chance to get out of it, he decided to keep silent, so as not to incur the wrath of his superior. Namely the Metatron who is even higher in rank than Beelzebub.

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theelastword · 3 months

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something new about aziraphale that i’m getting emotional over on this fine night (no one is shocked): i cannot stop thinking about the first scene of season 2. specifically i cannot stop thinking about the fact that even then, in a moment where both he and crowley even looked younger due to their innocence / lack of doubt or questioning just yet, aziraphale is already doing somersaults to worry for those around him. he doesn’t even KNOW this angel, and the idea that crowley could get in trouble for asking questions shouldn’t occur to him yet, but he’s still so burdened by anxieties and doubts for other peoples’ well-being and conditioned to protect others at his own expense (not to mention eerily close to seeing through Heaven for what it is). aziraphale is so fundamentally good, worrying about other people and caring about them before the very idea that bad things could happen to a fellow angel SHOULD have ever crossed his mind in the first place. and to me that disproves all notions that aziraphale is naive, because he’s been tragically aware since before the Beginning— and before crowley. which makes moments like the post-Job “what does that make me” scene even sadder because by all accounts, if aziraphale was familiar with what it’s like to doubt and worry before the Fall even happened, before he ever should have known what those things were, then he should have been one of the angels to fall, right? Wondering and doubting and worrying about things leads to a Fall, right? Only he didn’t. In a world in which there’s a line dividing doubtless, brainwashed, “happy” angels from doubtful, too-curious-for-their-own-good demons, aziraphale might just be the loneliest being in existence. he’s quite literally the sole person (that we know of) who stayed an angel but is forced to carry a burden that never should have been his, that NOBODY around him in Heaven has to carry. and he can’t ask about it because now he knows for sure where asking questions leads you, but he probably doesn’t understand why he has to carry that burden in the first place. the one he’s been carrying it since before Earth was even created.

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phoen1xr0se · 7 months

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Nothing Lasts Forever - META

It's just really struck me how utterly bizarre the line "nothing lasts forever" is, considering that it comes out of THIS GUY'S mouth:

Don't get me wrong, this line has never sat right with me, it felt oddly placed and off - almost everything else he says and does in that scene could potentially be keeping in character with who he is, his arc, his trauma... but not this.

Why?

I mean, we're talking about Aziraphale here!

The one who literally collects ancient first editions and preserves them...

The one who wears old, worn clothes because they're comfortable and he likes them...

The one who almost killed a little kid because he wanted the Earth to carry on just a little bit longer...

The one who has desperately fought to keep his demon alive and away from the threat of Hell by any means necessary.

These are not the actions of someone who believes nothing lasts. He has spent his existence protecting the things he wants to last, often going to extraordinary measures, even going against his own moral code, consistently showing that he does, in fact, want it all to last forever.

So why say it?

The only explanation that makes sense to me is Aziraphale is trying to wave a warning flag in front of Crowley's face. Hes saying: "You know me, I know you do, you know me better than anyone and you know I would never say this."

The old "if you ever hear me say these words, you know I'm in mortal peril" bit.

The only problem with this, of course, is that Crowley has just confessed - all the things Aziraphale never ever thought he would hear him say, at least not yet, and not so openly... and it's the wrong timing, the worst timing ever, because Crowley is too wrapped up in his own emotion that he can't see what Aziraphale is too scared to say overtly (lots of sideways glances to Metatron just outside the window).

Aziraphale is waving great big "I am not okay help me!!" signs at him, saying all the things he would never say - "you're the bad guys" and "you can be my second in command" and "just like the old times"... and the big one, "I forgive you" instead of the "I love you" they both know it should have been.

The worst part is that Aziraphale expects Crowley to pick up on his signals, and is so hurt and frustrated when he doesn't... not just because it means he is putting his life at risk but because maybe Crowley doesn't know him after all. Maybe they aren't what he thought they were.

But can I leave this on a happy(ish) note?

With this in mind, I'd like to bring you back to the final scene with 'A Nightingale Sang In Berkeley Square' - most people believe that either Crowley queued it up to take Aziraphale to the Ritz, or the Bentley did it...

But if all the above is true, and Aziraphale has been desperately trying to get Crowley to see his coded messages, I humbly submit the theory that it was actually Aziraphale who set up the song to play.

One last attempt to show Crowley what he couldn't risk saying out loud.

Let's hope he got the message.

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justaweirdonothingtoseehere · 30 days

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Aziraphale didn’t leave because he wanted a promotion.

LET ME REPEAT: AZIRAPHALE DID NOT LEAVE BECAUSE HE WANTED A PROMOTION.

He left because the Metatron fucking threatened the love of his existence.

Everything the Metatron says is so vaguely threatening.

A “jigger” of almond syrup (fun aside, ‘jigger’ also means “to alter or rearrange especially by manipulating” according to Mirriam-Webster)

That comment isn’t ’restore your demon friend,’ it’s ’come quietly or we’ll erase him from the book of life and take you anyway’

The fact that so many people don’t recognize the signs of manipulation and threats worries me. Are you all okay?

#good omens #crowley #aziraphale #ineffable husbands #aziracrow #final 15 #ineffable divorce #aziraphale defense squad #aziraphale defender #the metatron

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brideavocado · 2 months

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No cause I literally cannot understand how people can be angry at Aziraphale! I understand both Crowley and Aziraphale’s side in the s2 ending so according to me, neither of them were in the wrong for what happened. Like what did you expect him to do? HE’S A FREAKING ANGEL!! And Aziraphale has a much stronger attachment to heaven than Crowley has to hell so that’s why it’s a bigger deal for Aziraphale to leave. He’s manipulated and he’s trying to do what’s right!!!

Obviously I feel bad for Crowley, but I feel really bad for Aziraphale as well. “Aziraphale left because he didn’t love Crowley”, HUH? Aziraphale left because he believes that heaven can change, because he doesn’t really have a choice. It was honestly very in character of him to feel like he needs to go with heaven. And also, if that look he gave Crowley after he kissed him didn’t mean he wanted to stop Crowley from going, then idk what!

LIKE DOES HE LOOK HAPPY TO YOU!??

So to summarise, if you don’t like Aziraphale then I don’t like you. How can you even be mad at him!!?? He’s so cute I can’t even look at him without smiling😭

Aziraphale defender for life :)

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aziraphaledefenderforever · 5 months

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does anyone have any post-s2 fix-it recs in which aziraphale isn’t made the bad guy? i keep seeing all these stories where aziraphale is begging for crowley’s forgiveness and it takes time for crowley to accept the apologies and aziraphale was 100% in the wrong etc etc. i can’t seem to find anything that deals with the fact that aziraphale did something brave and moral in wanting to make Heaven a better place, and as an aziraphale kin i’m really struggling to engage with the fan base. if anyone has any fics for aziraphale defenders PLEASE drop them i am begging.

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dee-morris · 6 months

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Titles Are Hard

This is something that's been rattling around in my head for a while, but I'm not sure if I've ever really spelled it out so here goes.

Remember that cold open when we saw Angel Crowley all giddy and happy, making stars and being a total nerd about them? When did we see him that happy again?

Trick question. It never happened. The only time we saw Crowley looked vaguely pleased was when he was trading jobs with Aziraphale or finding excuses to do good. He wasn't happy in hell, he wasn't happy as a demon, he could only find happiness in brief glimpses when he was getting around the rules.

You'd expect him to be more cheerful in season two when hell wasn't instructing him to make people miserable anymore, but his malaise actually got worse. A combination of stress over what hell is going to do next and a complete lack of structure in his daily life, I imagine. Keeping in touch with Shax was a way to stay one step ahead of hell, but that's not a sustainable plan. He was treading water.

Aziraphale saw all this, and remember that these ineffable idiots don't actually talk to each other about anything important. He doesn't know what's behind Crowley's grumpiness. All he knows is that Crowley was happy as an angel, was unhappy as a demon, and he seems less happy now as a semi free agent.

Given all of that, could we please stop scolding Aziraphale for "wanting to change Crowley" and "not accepting him as he is"? Crowley doesn't accept Crowley as he is. Aziraphale just wants him to be happy. It's not out of pocket for him to think that getting him reinstated as an angel might do the trick, if Aziraphale is in a position to make it a better place for him.

I'm writing all of this assuming that everything we saw in the Final Fifteen is all there is to it, which ftr I don't believe. I think there's more to it than we were shown, but none of my pet theories matter in this particular case.

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millytherat · 2 months

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Aziraphale: "i believe that literal angels and GOD can be/are really good and kind, if only they get some help!"

Aziraphale haters: "Yeah he said he hates Crowley and only wants to be a top angel in the abusive system"

#good omens #aziraphale #aziraphale defense squad #aziraphale defender #yes i will defend him with MY LIFE

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portable-agender · 6 months

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Crowley: You aren't forgiven. Do you know how much you put me through?

Aziraphale:

Crowley, sighing and throwing his arms up in the air: Fine! Fine you're forgiven okay?!

Aizraphale:

Crowley, all sassy: Yes Yes I love you too!

Aziraphale:

Crowley: What now?! Want a wedding or something?

Aizraphale:

Crowley, already in a black wedding dress: Fine.

#good omens #aziraphale #aziracrow #go2 spoilers #crowley #aziraphale defender #they're silly

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itsscottiesstark · 23 days

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Here's one of Aziraphale's BAMFest (I just made that up) moments cause he's the best and I love him.

I made these, show some love. 💕

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phantomram-b00 · 4 months

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So I saw this meme and it perfectly capsulate how I feel with what I gotta talk about because my love language is talking about my special interest and this brainrot is still strong even if we’re in 2024.

So I know I haven’t done a meta-analysis in a hot minute. I think the last I did was the Coffee theory. And imma be for real, I wasn’t sure if I wanted to keep going (more on that later) but then I saw this and I said “oh yeah, this is for me to talk about”. As it about Aziraphale. More specifically about people claiming he’s a villain or wrong. Which is hilariously wrong in so many ways.

Mostly because, name one thing about that that automatically made him a villain? Especially with after everything he have done. But also do people not remember the fact that he did deny it at first. After what happen technically five years ago, he want zero parts with Heaven. The last thing he ever wants to do is go back to his former side that tried to kill him just because he saved earth, God’s creation. The only reason he wanted to join was 1) Metatron said he can appoint Crowley. 2) Aziraphale believe if he an archangel he can fix the broken system if it means sacrificing his own happiness. And this is just me personally, 3) Metatron threaten him and even after as he walk with Aziraphale gave him no choice at all. Then again he never really did but I’ll get to that later. None of those reason scream villainous, did he choice heaven? Yeah, but that shouldn’t automatically deem him as a villain. If that was the case, he could’ve been considered “villain” in season 1 when he tried to back out from trying to save the world; but even if he was considered that back in season 1, that still doesn’t doesn’t make sense.

The reason he tried to back out at first is because he was stressed and was scared. Imagine being in his shoes, your whole life you were taught and molded to obey without questioning the righteousness of God/Archangels with a chance that if you do to either fall or get destroyed. So you’re made to believe you are on the “good side” and expected to do “the right thing” in their eyes because it “what God wanted” so you do the right thing so you can get approval and not get ridiculed or worse punished. That’s how Aziraphale was raised to believe, regardless that he heavily disagrees with armageddon as much as Crowley does he scared to revert the apocalypse not to mention stressed given how many days they have left on this earth. But one thing also about Aziraphale is that he’s trying to hold onto hope that maybe he can try stopping it by talking with God, and when that doesn’t work he did try to reach out to Crowley before being inconveniently discorporated and even so he still try to go back to earth to revert it. Was there thing Azirapahle could’ve done better? Ofc, I don’t think he should’ve said “I don’t even like you” to Crowley or said “I forgive you” the first time and many others but that still doesn’t make him a villain. He’s just a flawed grey character, even in the blitz episode in season 2, they talk about how they’re a shade of grey.

As for if he’s wrong for the choices? Ahhhh see this is where it’s tricky because many people have commented their beliefs. So it truly up to your opinion regardless. But since I’m making this post, I’ll say, no. He’s not wrong. Going back to what I said, he wants to make Heaven a better place. You can’t blame him for wanting to fix something. Crowley is absolutely right that Heaven and Hell for that matter is toxic but Aziraphale wanting to make it better isn’t inherently wrong. It just Aziraphale gonna have to see that Heaven is beyond repair and it isn’t his responsibility to fix the system that been damaged but to Aziraphale he wants to. He wants to make it better even if it means leaving everything he loves and care about. Even if it hurts to leave Crowley, his bookshop, or everything but if he wants to fix it, I don’t think you can blame him.

And I said this in past post but I think regarding him wanting to appoint Crowley, I think he just want Crowley along his side because he want him to fix it with him. But Aziraphale I’ll admit should’ve considered how Crowley already feels about heaven. He was casted out and wants no part with Heaven at all. So even if there a chance to fix it in his eyes, Heaven is damaged. Far too damage to repair but also that the source of his trauma. So why should he come back? So I’ll give it that, and I think deep down Aziraphale knew this outcome might’ve played out but I think Aziraphale thought if he suggested maybe fixing it might spark something. How Azirpahale is thinking is that, just because something is damaged doesn’t mean it unfixable and there’s hope for salvaging it. However, Crowley’s thinking is that there no fixing that’s dead in the water. In this case neither are wrong.

And look I’ll say this, Crowley’s plan to running away, even though it sounds good. I mean, if Beelzebub and Gabriel can do it (which they deserve their flowers like say what you will about this couple I love it.) why couldn’t they? But the thing is that even back in Episode 1 of season 2, Aziraphale told Crowley when he was an angel that everything was going to be shut down. Which would also include Alpha Centauri or any other dimensions he wants to runaway with Aziraphale. Granted it not guarantee that maybe Alpha Centauri or any other galaxy aren’t save maybe they will and I’m reading it wrong. However if Earth is to be destroyed because of this Great War that going to happen, who to say the other galaxies would be safe too? It too risky to just run away I mean granted it not safe to stay neither if the world might end but running away won’t solve anything.

And now with the season coming happening, I think even though yes, Aziraphale did chose Heaven over Crowley which yes that fucking hurts. I’m not going to deny that. It hurts on both sides with Crowley being rejected and losing the one thing that made sense in the world and Aziraphale having to give up everything and realizing he made a mistake. It a tear jerking mess. But at the same time, with season 3 coming and confirmed, now he has to save the world and Crowley on his end without talking to Crowley. Which is gonna hurt like hell (or heaven who knows they’re both toxic atp) but Aziraphale will do anything to save and protect Crowley and Earth. And I’m pretty sure he would do anything to get Crowley back or the bookshop back

Now just a disclaimer, as much as I relate to this character and he’s my favorite and my comfort character, I’m not going to say Aziraphale perfect. He’s a bastard worth knowing for a reason right? But all I’m just saying is that villainizing him is throwing away all his characteristic and progress he making or made out the window just this one decision, we can’t villainized him for this one instant especially as it really out of character for him to ever be a villain to begin with. I’m not saying you have to like him but again don’t villainize him for this one choice where there more nuance into it.

But that’s really my two since, I just don’t see why people would think Aziraphale’s a villain or wrong imo. Might be controversial but hey, it was fun to talk about it. If you guys have any opinions are this, that cool let me know, if you agree or disagree hey valid but plz be respectful and don’t call Aziraphale the villain. Honestly how do you feel about people calling aziraphale a villain or wrong for what he did?

Now onto what I was talking about before (you don’t have to read if you don’t have to, this is just me explaining it. If you wanna read, that’s cool too. ^v^)

So, before anything, uh I’m not leaving tumblr or good omens fandom. No, I love the fandom and tumblr enough to leave. Good omens fandom have been very lovely and I met people on here so I like to shoutout to that but also Good omens is my comfort and I don’t wanna leave that.

But what I’m getting that is that, without getting too personal, I’ve been having posting anxiety. What I mean is that I’ve been having low confidence over what to post and if this post will be good enough. And it doesn’t help that I haven’t been feeling the best for the past couple of months or so. I thought 2024 would be different and I mean I have faith that it is, just things haven’t been easy I’ll just say. And haven’t been feeling or doing the best. No I’m not going on a hiatus, i hope not, i just need to think things over.

However, I think I have some thoughts, like I do wanna post more art but I do also wanna continue talking about stuff. Maybe both too? I mean there many drawing idea I have so much idea off, I just need to not have this anxiety weighting over me. Or not overthink things.

If you have read this far, thanks for listening ghost pal! I guess TLDR: I’m not going anywhere; I just want to improve and post stuff I like. Again good omens is my favorite show and I love it to bits and I have so much to say and/or draw. Just ahh, gotta work on it. But thanks for listening and hope you enjoy this ghostly rambles on their favorite character. And stay tune for another post I’ll do. And uh, boo!

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theelastword · 6 months

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Say it with me now,

Crowley is the one who left, not Aziraphale.

Aziraphale wanted Crowley to go with him, not because he wanted to return to Heaven, not because he’s traumatized and being gaslit into going back to his abusers, and not because he’s naive. He wanted to go back because he knows exactly how toxic Heaven is and if he ran away with Crowley instead of trying to dismantle that hierarchal structure of abuse, he would be a bystander. He would be choosing his own comfort above everyone else’s in the world and he WOULD NOT BE THE PERSON WHO CROWLEY FELL IN LOVE WITH!!!

What Aziraphale is doing does not make him a fool. It doesn’t make him a bad person and it DEFINITELY doesn’t give s3-era Crowley any right to reject/be furious with him given that Aziraphale asked, even BEGGED Crowley to go with him. Together. so they could help make sure no one else has to go through the trauma they both did. Crowley’s choice, while understandable, was the selfish one (especially because he got angry and made it seem like Aziraphale was going back for power, like he was an “idiot”, instead of understanding and explaining he couldn’t go with him but that that doesn’t make Aziraphale’s choice any less valid). Aziraphale was the one brave enough to risk his safety and eternal happiness because he knew it was the right thing to do. And he wasn’t the one to walk away from their relationship— Crowley was. So before we start hating on Aziraphale maybe we should reconsider what made us (and Crowley!) fall in love with him in the first place.

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goodomens-girlie · 5 months

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this post is for all the hoes, bros, girls, gays, and theys who are switching sides from Crowley to Aziraphale

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sirquibble · 5 months

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Why I disagree with the Good Omens s2 coffee theory

!! Good Omens Season 2 spoilers !! I want to start off by saying that this is no hate to the people that like this theory, this is just my own thoughts :) I want to really break down Aziraphale's conversation with the Metatron in particular. I think there's tons of evidence in this conversation that shows Aziraphale wasn't mind controlled or anything, but just very well manipulated. In this scene, the Metatron speaks in absolutes, saying things like "you're just the angel for the job", which is giving him validation, from someone right at the top of the hierarchy, no less. However, Aziraphale's reply, "I don't want to go back to Heaven", is interesting as he stutters then immediately looks away, then makes a joke about the coffee to ease the uncomfortable tension. But, the Metatron continues to talk and completely ignores what Azi has just said, ''You know, as supreme archangel, you would be able to decide who to work with". Again, he's speaking in absolutes and is only offering him the option of becoming supreme archangel. The Metatron doesn't even give time to the thought that Aziraphale doesn't want this, because by acknowledging that, he'd give Azi time to think about it more, which would lessen his chances of being able to persuade Aziraphale to come back. I think that alone really shows how he's subtly influencing Aziraphale's choice here, not from mind control, but masterful manipulation. The Metatron carries on by saying, "Yeah, I've been looking over a number of your previous exploits, and I see that in quite a few of them you formed a de facto relationship with the demon Crowley." He's giving Aziraphale nowhere to hide by bringing Crowley up, and this is clearly an attempt to make Azi feel guilty and feel like he needs to redeems himself somehow by painting his actions in a subtly negative light. After this, Aziraphale very quickly breaks eye contact after staring at him very intently, possibly out of shame or because he was thinking about Crowley. However, the Metatron immediately gets his attention back, not allowing him any time to think, "Now, if you wanted to work with him again, that... might be considered irregular but it would certainly be within your jurisdiction to restore your friend, Crowley, to full angelic status". He's reminding Azi that what he's doing is 'wrong' to make him feel guilty, but then offering him exactly what he's wanted - Not specifically for Crowley to be an angel again, but for the two of them to be able to be happy together without any kind of shame or judgement. Additionally, he refers to Crowley as Aziraphale's friend, which reinforces that him being restored would make him more than just some demon and attempts to give the impression it would be positive for the both of them. The Metatron is also offering Azi power to have actual control over his relationship with Crowley, which would be another thing that could tempt him into agreeing. Crowley is his biggest weakness and the Metatron used this weakness to manipulate him, knowing full well that Aziraphale wouldn't put himself first. The entire conversation structure was essentially 'you did this how dare you, but you can make it better by doing this'. He was lured into accepting through manipulation, not mind control. In regards to the infamous kiss scene, I do genuinely believe that Aziraphale's reaction wasn't due to mind control - but shock. It was the wrong place and wrong time and it was such a painfully human moment, but that's a whole other topic of discussion. But, yeah! That's just my analysis of that scene, and if I turn out to be wrong, at least I had fun HAHA

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