#anti stiles stilinski

[azurecanary]

If i had a nickel for every show starring a character(s) of colour who were powerful, badass and well written; but are constantly shit on to prop up the white "morally grey" characters who have rushed and/or contradictory development up to and including their ships; I'd have three nickels.

That's it. That's the joke. No "which isn't a lot but it's weird it happened thrice". Cause when it happens that many times, it stops being surprising.

It happened with Scott McCall, it happened with Daisy Johnson, why wouldn't it happen with Alina Starkov and Mal Oretsev?

#scott mccall #daisy johnson #alina starkov #mal oretsev #teen wolf #agents of shield #shadow and bone #anti derek hale #anti stiles stilinski #anti peter hale #anti leo fitz #anti darkling #anti kaz brekker #anti stydia #anti sterek #anti fitzsimmons #anti kanej #all the anti tags are there as a just in case #i get more and more salty day by day #maybe I'm just tired of white 'morally grey characters' who only soften towards their love interest #who fans despise when she has a plot outside of them #if they even get one that is #is it that bad to want a powerful and badass character who chooses to be good and kind?

[liliaeth]

@bestialitybestiary Going to respond to your reply here instead of in reply to your post. Because it honestly had me baffled if you were actually paying attention or not.

@liliaeth I mean you're right, Scott was called out sometimes. But it somehow didn't feel as if he cared that much. It was sometimes said. Idk I feel like I have to reach for context every time I want to understand his emotions in the scene, because it's not clear. Idk if it's because of acting or directing. What I try to say is that because of those little things Scott may be perceived as ignorant or dumb, and it's a shame. I know he isn't. And I wish they portrayed his character with more care. I guess because of how they wrote/acted the character it was easy to see him as a bad friend, if someone wanted to see him that way. And it's a shame I wrote this post because I was wondering why Scott has such a bad rep in fandom. I love the guy

My main issue is this, of all the characters on the show, there were three characters who were called out on their mistakes the most.

There was Scott, there was Lydia and there was Derek. Which makes it no wonder that on the entire show, these three characters had the most character growth and development of any and all characters on the show.

Compare that to characters like say Stiles who was essentially static for six seasons, and had little to no character growth, because the show didn't dare to ever hold him accountable. Never made him feel remorse for how terribly he treated everyone around, him, and especially how badly Stiles treated the people he cared about, like Scott, like his father, like Lydia, like Malia...

(In fact the only time we see Stiles display any guilt over anything, it's to do with either the Nogitsune or Donovan, both of them cases where Stiles blames himself for things that are categorically not his fault. But when it comes to things that actually are Stiles' fault... things he actually did to personally wrong, it just gets ignored, and we see no reaction to it from Stiles, or any kind of him taking responsibility for it.)

But because Scott 'was' called out, and Stiles 'was not', people fell in the false notion that what Scott did was wrong, while Stiles behavior was 'just funny', or perfectly fine. Even though in most cases it was actually the opposite.

It's why people most often don't realize just how bad a friend Stiles was throughout most of the show.

See, you wrote that you felt Scott didn't care that much... and my instant reaction was 'did you miss the fact that he literally tried to kill himself out of guilt on three separate occasions?

In Frayed he is literally refusing to let himself heal, because he feels responsible over what happened to Derek.

And this is added on in Motel California, where he's already lit the torch, and thus is rid of most of the Darach's influence when he tries to put himself on fire, because he feels responsible for everything bad that's ever happened in their life since he was bitten.

And then in s5b, after Theo murdered him, it's Scott who takes responsibility for everything that went wrong, despite him being a victim, where once again, he won't let himself heal.

(all while the show refuses to let Stiles apologize or in any way take responsibility for listening to Theo and betraying the pack)

It's a recurring theme on the show, and with Scott that he's constantly taking responsibility for everything bad that happens around him, even and especially when it isn't his fault.

It's one of his main character traits, and this tendency to blame himself for everything that goes wrong, is probably one of his primary character flaws.

Like, it starts as early as in s1, when Stiles blames Scott for his father getting hit by a car in 'the Tell', when in Heart Monitor, he refuses to even talk to Scott, and Scott is desperately trying to make up for something that Scott had nothing to do with.

With Stiles blaming Scott for the 'werewolf crap coming into their life', despite Scott being the victim, and even going as far as Stiles abusing Scott with lacrosse balls, and getting him beaten up by seniors (risking said seniors' lives) just to punish Scott in false claim of it just being 'training)

I get that Stiles was just frustrated and worried about his father, which Scott knows as well, and is why Scott doesn't hold it against him. But with this added on to Scott's already existing tendency to take the blame for everything that goes wrong...

Scott could have refused, but instead he's blaming himself for these things, despite none of it being his fault... It's an ongoing character trait for Scott to do so.

I'm not saying the show was perfect, one of the main flaws the show had, esp. in regards to Scott, is that they went with the notion that Scott dealt with his suffering internally, and that the audience would see this as resilience. That he didn't lash out (outside of s1 when he's least in control of his instincts), and for the most part just dealt with it.

And directorial this lead to things like the show rarely if ever dealing with the horrors Scott went through. Even in the previouslies we rarely see a focus on what was done to Scott. Even Gerard torturing Scott with a knife in clear view in front of the hospital, and then threatening his Mom, is not mentioned in a single previously, no matter how relevant it would have been to do so...

Just like Melissa's horrified rejection of Scott in Fury is never once dealt with onscreen. Instead we get some mention of 'them being stronger now' in s3, when in reality what the show actually did was to stop having Melissa's behave like Scott's mother, and turning pretty much just into a mentor.

Where we see the sheriff putting his son first, and protecting his son at all cost, Melissa essentially stops doing so after Fury, and just starts putting expectations on him.

People ask why we keep bringing race into this, it's because in any other situation, where a white character's pain would be ignored in the show. (hell this is done plenty with Stiles even in tw fandom), fandom would then pick up the story in fanfic after fanfic...

But with Teen Wolf fandom, that does not happen.

Even Motel California, is more often made about Stiles, or Isaac, than it is made about Scott, a character who is clearly suicidal in canon.

And that would not be the case if Scott were white.

We constantly see fandom claim to hate Scott for traits that he either canonically does not have, faults, he canonically does not have, while ignoring the traits and flaws he does have, because they do not fit the narrative that people want the character or the show to be.

#scott mccall defense squad #scott mccall #anti stiles stilinski #teen wolf fandom problems #teen wolf

[booker-le-livre]

Me, whenever I look at the Teen Wolf tag:

#seriously he wasn’t even in the movie yet his stans somehow find ways to make it all about him #I’m so sick of hearing about him #and I’m sick of watching everyone throw the POC main character under the bus for the generic white boy #I used to be indifferent about him but his stans have made him insufferable #I just want to see content about the other characters without it all being about stiles #especially Eli and Derek #just give me some father/son content without involving the irrelevant white boy #anti stiles stilinski #anti stiles #anti sterek #stiles stilinski #derek hale #eli hale #teen wolf #teen wolf the movie #pro Scott McCall

[verumsolemlunam]

not trying to be mean here, but, every single time i see an edit of stiles using the 'true evil only comes from corrupting something truly good' quote, i have to laugh. i'm sorry! i'm so sorry. but! it's like. stiles isn't truly good. like. even if you only watch before the nogistune, he's at best really mean.

i mean. can you see mason mocking liam's dreams? can you see mason, if liam kissed brett (considering mason has a crush on him s4) the day before the full moon, then proceeding to chain liam to a radiator and scratch liam's name into a dog bowl as punishment?

can you see mason, in the event his dad gets barely injured in a situation liam had no control over, then proceeding to tie him up and pelt him with lacrosse balls? and then key a seniors car, causing liam to get beaten up? can you reallly see him doing that?

not even to get into everything else stiles does ('are you still milking that?' in regards to isaac's. abuse. from his dad. that stopped pretty recently; or him stalking lydia (he knew her measurements. they'd never even spoke before. it's weird); etc).

like. stiles is a decent-ish guy. if i were him, i would've ran for the hills by the second episode. he does stick by scott. so. y'know. decent. but not 'truly good'.

#yelps #mine #mason hewitt #anti stiles stilinski #hopefully this filters things out for his fans #meta #discourse #anti #text #teen wolf

[forestwaterfalls]

the most stupid stunt the stiles stilinski teen wolf fanbase ever pulled was making people think scott was a bad friend. give me one example of him Ever dismissing any of his friends and no you can’t include moments of battle or him telling his Visibly Unwell friends to go home and rest. or when theo was manipulating him.

#yes i am talking about stiles stans. i will single-handedly beat all of you up. i have ten years worth of loving scott mccall in my heart #fucking come at me #teen wolf #stiles was a bad friend i will go to my grave on that hill!!!!! #scott mccall defense squad #anti stiles stilinski #just in case lol #scott mccall #m rambles

[pbandjklmnop]

TL;DR: With the Teen Wolf: The Movie being released and largely disliked...I want to hear some unpopular opinions about the show and movie. What don't you like? What do you feel the movie, show, or fandom just gets wrong or overlooks?

Also, I've made sure to tag this "Anti stiles/anti-Teen Wolf" just to be safe.

- My unpopular opinion: Stiles is NOT the best character and Scott's not the worst. I'm planning to write a video on it with a friend.

- What I think the fandom/movie get wrong and overlook: The mistreatment of non-white characters and lack of respect for different cultural influences in fantasy.

Some other thoughts:

- Stiles IS a good character. But his flaws that are excused simply because he's well acted and written better than his peers.

- Stiles is considered the favorite in PART because of the fans' interpretation of him. Not just due to his actual on screen behavior.

- There is white privilege at play, since Stiles co-lead, Scott, was played by a tan skinned, Latino man. POC are often judged more harshly than their white peers and this 100% impacted how Sciles is perceived. Same with people loving Allison (white) for the things they hate Kira (East Asian) for.

Lmk what y'all think!

#teen wolf mtv #teen wolf movie #scott mccall #derek hale #stiles stilinski #anti stiles stilinski #malia tate #lydia martin #sheriff stilinski #allison argent #crystal reed #tyler hoechlin #eli hale #mason hewitt #liam dunbar #hiromi kawakami #paramount plus #anti teen wolf movie #anti teen wolf

[thetwistedfaun]

Fandoms will take an average character [that I was previously okay with] and turn them into a woobified kitten. Fandoms start forcing this character down my everyone’s throat and turning them into a completely overrated kitten [making me now hate said character], and actually attacking people who would dare to dislike or not share the same views as them about said character.

This fandom then wonders why those same people don’t care for this woobified overrated character, that people actually go as far as resorting to sending death threats over. Fandoms will also claim that any “hater” is absolutely homophobic/racist/terf/ableist or anti/phobic any other category they think their woobified baby falls under, because people can’t just dislike something that you love without being some kind of phobic…

not sorry to break it to you, but your fandom is actually the reason I dislike your annoyingly overrated baby, so leave me alone about it 🤷🏽‍♀️ and it’s actually pretty fucked up when not even the show, but THE FANDOM is what drives you to hate/dislike something

This exact same process can be applied to ships of a fandom as well.

#fandoms will make you hate a thing #fandom #happened in the #Amphibia #amphibia fandom #was actually toxic af #i won’t bother to tagging current characters and ships because as stated #fandoms are crazy #idek what this was but #rant #people take things too far #but this definitely happened with #sterek #anti sterek #anti stiles #anti stiles stilinski #personal #fandom rant

[slice-of-magenta]

I've been trying to write this in my fic wips but I have tried and failed. Numerous of times. So I'm going to write it as a small observation about parralels that may have been mentioned already, or not.

I've noticed the scene from S5 (routinely pushes this scene down a flight of stairs 🤍), where Stiles literally hits Scott against a wall and throws Scott to the floor in the hospital. I couldn't help but notice how similar this is to the memory where Claudia throws a younger stiles to the ground on the hospital roof back in s3 maybe (correct me)? When they first really talked about Claudia. This was only a vivid memory however. Where Claudia was still alive and suffering with frontotemporal dementia.

Stiles was defenseless against his mom as she shouts in this memory and had pushed Stiles to the ground. She was telling him that he was trying to kill her even when that wasn't true. Stiles was raising his hands to protect his face from her hitting him as Noah tried prying her away from hitting her own son.

And then we have Scott defenseless and severely injured underneath stiles (remember- his chest wound), putting his hands weakly in front of himself when Stiles is yelling down at him. "WHERE WERE YOU." And the adults had to pry him away too.

I'm not a fan of it and I think the writers writing stiles off as not at fault for replicating the behavior was a big 'no no.' Didn't apologize. And this is one of the times where I truly rejected canon because the fight was written... Terribly (without a good resolve, in my opinion, and I'll always say that unfortunately). but I loved spotting this parallel. I hope I worded it coherently.

#I also want to know more about how Scott was also in the emergency contact list (or that was my major assumption at least 👀) #stiles stilinski #scott mccall #teen wolf #Scott looked so angry but he was pulling it back #His best friend just attacked him and I just - #*pushes the scene down a flight of stairs or vigorously does rewrites* #The thing that always upsets me is the writers still tried to make stiles seem like the good guy that deserves all the blankets and I'm so #Puzzled #Because I love sciles but I think stiles should have apologized because he took it too far #Whether he was triggered or not that's not okay behavior 😅 #I will forever hate this scene #I prefer the rain scene because thats ALL we REALLY needed to know that they're fighting #this is a rant #Dang I tried being positive about this s5 scene and I failed miserably 😂 #anti stiles stilinski #Tagging that just in case

[msginnymalfoy]

I hate that the show creators are clearly listening to this and listening to the Sterek Shippers. I hate that they’re happy to pander to the character hate of anyone who dares to get between their preferred pairing and they’re willing to add to the slashbait and hints of this non-inclusion while continuing to keep the actual GBLT characters so very much in the background.

And I don’t even WANT Sterek to be cannon - not just because of the really screwed up way it has changed how the show has been viewed but because it’s an inherently problematic relationship. I do not want to see the oh-so-sweet relationship between a creepy man in his 20s and the 16 year old high school student  - no, no I do not.  I do not want to see a representation of a gay or bisexual man being a borderline sex predator, I do not want to see a continuation of the endless meme that gay and bi men are trying to recruit kids, preying on kids, corrupting kids or are otherwise harmful to kids. Even aside from that, Stiles and Derek show nothing like affection for each other; at best Derek regards Stiles with a level of contempt, at worst outright derision and he has smacked Stiles more than once. Sterek, if it were real, would not be a good representation.

Teen Wolf is an incredibly well acted, wonderful show with so many excellent elements and awesome characters all of which are often overlooked - or actively abused in the most vicious ways possible - in favour of the Sterek ship (this also includes neglecting not just a Latino lead but Danny who is also POC and in an actual gay relationship), which, frankly has zero canonical support except for some extremely unsubtle slashbaiting (even the slashbait wasn’t in the “ambiguous language and lingering looks” department - it was the slapstick forced physical contact backed up by the actors on that thrice damned boat).

I can only imagine how incredibly annoying it is to be Tyler Posey, with his talent and the performance he brings to Teen Wolf - or any of the actors on the show and the incredible performance they bring us and the great story it tells - and have all of that reduced to drooling over two characters getting it on who are hardly ever even seen together. Twisted? Yeah, pretty much.

WHAT A GREAT READ. every single thing SPOT ON! this was written in February, 2014 but still relevant and accurate. i love that these words are coming from gay man. sparky boy, this is great one! YOU SPILLED 👏👏👏

#anti sterek #THE WAY HE SPILLED!! #tyler posey #tyler posey defense squad #FREE POSEY #tagging this as #anti stiles stilinski #anti derek hale #because i can😁 #i woke up and chose violence and hate #too colorful i know

[philtatosbuck]

i said it in the tags of my other post but st*rek is about stiles SO much more than it is derek and that's why they don't care about the age gap. it's not seen as a personal well compatible ship for derek but it's seen as a hot older strong guy who defends stiles against everything and everyone (untrue) while stiles gets to be the badass 'spark' (kill me).

i genuinely think there are so few people who favor derek over stiles that ship them together.

like let's be real about it. hardcore stiles stans (not all) see almost every character as an accessory to stiles and derek is no different. you do not give a damn about him being in character as long as stiles has him as some sort of trophy.

that's why so much of the st*rek narrative is made up and has derek like. COMPLETELY treating stiles drastically different than he does in canon

(also why tags are scott mccall is a bad friend/alpha are called for. they completely alter scott and derek's bond to make room for stiles and derek instead, AND why pack mom stiles is a thing. they make honestly both stiles and derek out of character with this one, but also isaac erica and boyd, only ONE of which shows any sign of liking stiles at all enough to listen to him, and why they have scott join derek's pack instead of being an alpha, etc)

the derek hale deserves nice things tag is filled with st/erek and pack mom stiles with the three betas as if derek didn't end the show with a girlfriend he loves, a good relationship with his alpha, the ability to shift into a full wolf, and is apart of a pack that would always be there for him. as if two of those three betas didn't die and the other one didn't defect right before derek himself did and accepted scott as his alpha. as if stiles and derek could stand to be in leadership with each other without scott there.

#anyways. 80% of the time derek is just a prop in st/erek #because a LOT of the fics are surprise surprise. stiles centric #anti sterek #this isn't necessarily anti stiles? #more his stans? but to be safe. #anti stiles stilinski #anti stiles stans #not every st*rek is like this obviously #and if a minor ships st*rek i honestly just expect them to grow out of it #but the adults? yeah. some of y'all....... make ships like st*rek a Habit huh. #i don't think i should put this in the main tag but for MY tagging purposes #derek #i don't like st*dia but they're at least somewhat better about acknowledging the other person in the ship

[liliaeth]

@wickedacefae what I don't get is why you believe that making Scott the bad friend is switching it up? Due to racism in teen wolf fandom, it's unfortunately far too common to find 'bad friend Scott McCall fic' no matter how little sense it makes with canon.

Look up the numbers, if you want to 'switch it up' then the best way to get drama would be to make Stiles the 'bad friend', who needs to make it up to Scott

Because those kind of fics are incredibly rare, and with how little character growth Stiles got in canon, it would be nice to see a fic, where he actually grows up and matures for a change.

You know, where Stiles is actually held accountable for his actions and behavior, and has to learn from it. It's the one thing most missing from the show, since imho Stiles was the most static character with the least character growth of all the main cast of the show.

Everyone else got to grow up, mature, learn from their mistakes. Characters like Scott, Lydia, Derek, Allison, Malia, Liam... all of them got to grow up and mature. They got their mistakes acknowledged and then had to come to face with them, and learn from them. Almost all of Teen Wolf's characters got that growth. All except for Stiles. (Well Peter too, but Peter's a villain, so his lack of growth is part of what made him a villain in the first place)

Big part of the problem is that Stiles' fans already reacted badly when they dared to give him even some minor growth in s4 by having him get over Lydia and move on.

Imagine how much better his story arc would have been if after 5a he'd been called out on his treatment of Scott, and how he betrayed the pack to Theo. If his insecurity and lack of faith in Scott and the others love for him had actually been dealt with.

But because Stiles was the fanfave, and his fans didn't want him to change, Stiles never got that. And for me personally, that just made him less interesting as a character.

#Scott Mccall #anti stiles stilinski #teen wolf #adding the anti stiles tag more out of courtesy #teen wolf fandom problems #scott mccall defense squad

[booker-le-livre]

lmfao sis literally EVERYONE is mocking Posey for being desperate and unemployed and still begging for more Teen Wolf movies because he wants to keep playing geriatric wolf lol. And everyone is rightfully mocking/shitting on Posey and Jeff for their shitty excuse of a Teen Wolf revival and for treating Arden like garbage. The only relevant things about the TW Movie are Derek and Eli Hale. No one gives a shit about Scott, Posey or Jeff and you can die mad about it 🙃

Lmao, sis, who hurt you?😭 Imagine being so fired up because someone doesn’t like Meningitis Stilinski that you’re actually dragging Posey for rightfully being the MC of the franchise revolving around his character? Literally the only valid thing you said was that they did Arden dirty. Anyway, I give the movie 10/10 solely for being DOB/Meningitis-free💅🏽

#stiles fans really are deranged #imagine caring this much about a pasty ass white boy that stopped being funny after season two #Scott is what st!les stans want their fave to be #and that’s on period #pro Tyler Posey #let the man play the character as much as he wants and if you don’t like it then don’t watch🤷🏽‍♀️ #and for someone who doesn’t want more movies you seem quite passionate about them🤔🤨 #anti stiles #anti stiles stilinski #pro scott mccall #teen wolf #teen wolf the movie #arden cho #kira yukimura #stiles stilinski #anti Dylan O’Brien #just to be sure #anti sterek

[princeescaluswords]

At the risk of getting yelled at: I don't think Stiles trusted Theo to keep his secret. Both Scott and Stiles develop patterns of avoiding telling people things think they will react badly to. Starting in s3 &4, when Scott thinks they are about to be caught, will rush to tell the person to better control their reaction. Stiles by contrast, continues avoiding (ie Malia on the list) not I would argue b/c he thinks it won't be found out, but to push off the inevitable bad for as long as possible.

It's funny: your opening statement underlines one of the problems with online discussion. While playing with the difference between denotation and connotation is an accepted rhetorical practice, it only works if both the speaker and the audience understand that it is an overlay the truth, not the truth itself, and for some reason -- possibly anonymity or the lack of supplementary sensory information -- this often gets lost online. The truth is, right now, I can't actually yell at you, and you know that. What you meant and what I know you meant is that you are concerned I will respond to your question with an aggressive condemnation of you as a person. Don't worry. While I don't agree with some of your statements, you didn't call me names. Thus, we can talk like adults. Shall we?

At the base, I think that fandom has a problem with the production's belief that Stiles trusted Theo is because fandom confuses "trust" with "like." According to Webster, to trust is "to rely upon or place confidence in someone or something." You can trust the UPS to deliver the mail safely without liking the UPS. You can like your cat a great deal but you can't trust him to not chew on power cords.

Stiles never liked Theo, that's obvious. But did Stiles "rely upon or place confidence" in Theo? Absolutely. While Stiles didn't tell Scott about Theo killing Josh because Theo blackmailed him, Theo never told Stiles not to tell Scott about Donovan. In fact, Theo -- in a brilliant bit of reverse psychology -- encouraged Stiles that it might be all right for Scott to know about Donovan in Lies of Omission (5x09). But Stiles did have enough trust in Theo to tell him about his emotions concerning Donovan's death in Strange Frequencies (5x07). He trusted Theo enough to share what Lydia told him about Parrish's dream. He trusted that Theo wouldn't use those things against him. And, above all, Stiles trusted Theo in Status Asthmaticus (5x10) when Theo said "I'll tell you where your dad is, if you promise not to help Scott." Stiles didn't try to help Scott because he had trust that Theo would keep his word.

You say that Stiles thought Scott would react badly to him having killed Donovan in self-defense. Why would Stiles think that? Scott helped and cared for Derek even though Derek was a manipulative brutal thug in Seasons 1 and 2. Scott mistakenly mourned for Derek in Frayed (3x05) even after Derek endangered Scott's life by crashing his peace summit with Deucalion. Scott (along with Derek) gave Deucalion a chance for redemption. Stiles became angry with Scott for having hope for Peter -- Peter! -- a few episodes before Donovan. After a possessed Stiles tortured him with a sword, Scott focused on helping him in Season 3B. Where does Stiles get the idea that Scott would react badly?

And, by the way, when Scott did learn about Donovan (a twisted version of events) and even after Stiles screamed at him for not being human and blamed Scott for Stiles lying to him, all Scott said was, essentially, "give me space and go talk to your dad." This is why my position is -- regardless of the cause, and there are several good reasons for Stiles' behavior, such as RSD and residual trauma from both Claudia and the nogitsune -- that Stiles is at fault. Stiles may like Scott, but he doesn't trust Scott, and he doesn't trust Scott because he doesn't like himself.

And I have to take issue with this: "Starting in s3 &4, when Scott thinks they are about to be caught, will rush to tell the person to better control their reaction." When did this happen? I'm trying to think of an instance where Scott told someone the truth in order to 'control their reaction.' I can't think of one, and the concept sounds like the "Tyrant" idea that gets put about in fandom circles, without actual evidence. Scott does conceal information in order to spare people unnecessary pain -- such as Allison, Kira, and Young Derek -- and sometimes it's good and sometimes it's very bad. Now, telling people the uncomfortable truth is part of the show's theme, but that's the pack's motto, not just Scott's: "It's always better when they know." But your phrasing suggests manipulation.

So you're right, Stiles didn't trust Theo to keep the secret about Donovan. He trusted Theo to understand him in a way that Scott wouldn't. He trusted Theo to cooperate with the pack by providing Theo with information. Above all, he trusted Theo to keep his word about his father if he kept his word about not helping Scott. Because, and this is my final piece of evidence -- wouldn't Stiles, regarded by the fandom as the consummate planner, have a plan to deal with him? Only he didn't. He simply did what Theo told him to do. And while that doesn't require Stiles to like Theo, it does require him to trust Theo.

(Again, there were plenty of reasons for Stiles to act this way, but I'm marking this anti stiles stilinski for reasons of courtesy, not a condemnation of the character.)

#scott mccall #theo raeken #anti stiles stilinski #scott mccall defense squad #teen wolf season 5

[scribeoffate]

🍄🍬🦋

Thank you for asking!

🍄 ⇢ share a head canon for one of your favourite ships or pairings

Kinda stolen from @spikeface's fantastic truedemon fic (heed the warnings if you click): all the names for clouds is this idea that Deucalion offers to help Scott financially. I adopted the idea that he pays for the s4 issues that never come up again, either on the down low or as it plays out in the fic.

🍬 ⇢ post an unpopular opinion about a popular fandom character

Stiles is creepy to Lydia in S1 and a little bit in S2, and she is nothing but patient and kind to him about it. She starts in this "queen bee, mean-girl" stereotype, but she is never actually mean to people. You never see her being a bully to anyone. She doesn't owe Stiles any attention or time just because he likes her.

🦋 ⇢ share something that has been on your heart and mind lately 

I wish all of my favorite fics could have so many kudos and comments and be showered with the praise they deserve. (Like the one I shared.)

Questions

#ask game #anti stiles stilinski #just being polite #i love him forever #lydia martin #teen wolf

[jre0121]

I just saw one of the dumbest Scott bashing fanfics on a03.It was that the pack is going to New Orleans so Scott can make a treaty with Klaus and Stiles is this royal fae.In the fanfic they have Scott saying things like the Klaus them should be glad to have a meeting with me I'm a true alpha.Like Scott never once used his true alpha title over people in teen wolf.Like in ever fanfic Scott has canon stiles personality, while Stiles have canon Scott personality.Like if you seen TVD,The Originals Elijah will like Scott more than Stiles because Scott is willing to sacrifice everything for those he love.Every Scott bashing fanfic is like Scott isn't meant to be a true alpha Stiles should be a supernatural creature that every loves. Don't get me started on Stiles pack mom fanfic why would Liam hate Scott and look up to stiles when Stiles was basically antagonizing him when they first met and Scott was helping him.In Scott bashing fanfics Scott is someone who only looks out for himself while Stiles is this selfless hero,like you literally switch Scott and Stiles up.

#anti stiles stilinski

[vicontheinternet]

Ppl adding Arden cho to their anti post as a way of white feminism/performative internet activism so they don’t see too bitter over that stiles wasn’t in it/still was never confirmed bi/sterek being brought up

#anti teen wolf movie #anti teen wolf #anti stiles stilinski #anti sterek #no i haven’t watched the movie even hate watching has it’s limits for me #Arden chi and Dylan O’Brien are- do you actually care abt Arden or do you just hate teen wolf that much