#anti hazbin hotel fandom

[gritsandbrits]

How it feels like to criticize vivziepop without her annoying swiftie of a fandom rushing in to coddle her:

#anti hazbin stans #anti hazbin hotel fandom #anti vivziepop #hazbin critical #helluva boss critical #Edit: i just used this because it was popular; do not support that bitchass Max Goof

[kawaiitail-chan]

WTF????!!!!!!!!

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[almacambiondaughterofsaleos]

Did you see how Ayy Lmao stalked a certain person's blog to NOT read a fanfic written by a CSA victim, and then pick a fight with them only because they didn't agree with Viv? The scene is short but basically rewrites the Loser Baby scene.

It's caused so much controversy that Ayy himself left 2 comments and then (assumingly trolls) under Ayy's name left racist slurs and horrible threats in the fic.

He's such a pathetic human being to pick a fight and police an CSA survivors valid opinions. I hope this wakes people up.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/54143950

What an asshole

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[theoddest1]

Hey, isn't it so..."Great" that Viv is out here liking posts that clearly find moments where Angel is being sexual with his rapist "Hot" How much more telling can this all get, right? We really sit here, having to explain how fucked up it is to take SA, try to tackle it "seriously" but then proceed to not even do it for that reason. Only for it to be for angst and goon material. How do you expect me to SIT HERE and take whatever Viv has to offer seriously? The number of people I have seen trying to justify this gross behavior is abysmal. If you have this kink or whatever, fine not like I can stop you, be into that shit somewhere else, but DO NOT try and TACKLE IT only for it to be not even seen as serious or as a way for you to get off to your sick fantasies.

Why the hell would you like this? "Angel with his abusive rapist boss😝, so hot guys! Can'tstop thinking about it!"

What good reason would Viv have in liking this post? Why do over 4k people find a post like this neat? "Oh they're fictional, it's gucci, stop bitching" wouldn't need to bitch if people didn't outright sexualize moments meant to tackle an irl fucking problem.

By the way, this person ships Angel and Valentino together. Their pinned tweet is legit sexual Val and Angel art. I wouldn't recommend attacking them regardless if you disagree with their ships and what they deem...ugh "hot."

Fair warning to I WILL be showing some of their arts and reblogs as evidence, so if you are not into that sort of thing (anything NSFW), I highly recommend scrolling past my post or past this section of it.

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I'm pretty sure Viv actively searches for this sort of thing on Twitter, like it's PAINFULLY obvious that she does. How you just so happen to like a post clear af lusting for this abusive relationship YOU CLAIMED to take seriously that ALSO happens to be from an account that ships the abuser with the victim? Gtfo with your two-faced shit, just say your find this hot instead of lying your absolute ass off. The audacity for some fans to go after one group of people for liking questionable stuff only to let other questionable things slide. Like homie, you can let rape slide, but draw the line for any other questionable thing? How's about you have that energy for EVERYTHING with your hypocritical asses. Ion wanna hear y'all stank ass make callouts if you're okay with a rapist being shipped with someone he actively harms in various ways.

And Viv

You say this entire sequence is meant to be uncomfortable, meant to not sugar-coat how awful this situation is, and supposedly have people who are victims/survivors themselves, yet here you are liking posts from people who do anything but take it seriously and even sexualize it. That's absolutely insane to me. And reminds me how you were drooling over some pins that glamorize the abuse Angel and supposedly Husk goes through, you know, the same character that COMPARED his abuse with Angel's.

Ah yes, let's downplay how horrible Angel's situation is further, shall we? Let's especially do it after adamantly arguing with other SA survivors who "haven't seen the episode yet" and need to shut up or don't watch 😃. Let's ignore the fact that Husk and Angel's situations STILL aren't comparable but it's still very odd to have pins on TWO situations taken seriously in the show. So do you actually view the situations seriously or not Viv???

God she's....actually fucking stupid and horrid.

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[bbgliker-teehee]

NOW THIS IS WHAT I CALL A RADIO DEMON!!!😍😍😍😍

Art is by @/99_monochrome on Twitter btw

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[madnessandentropy]

If you say a healthy relationship where the characters respect each other and are an equal level is "boring" you are an instant red flag to me, because every person who says this turns out to be a piece of shit that glorifies abuse and, if they are a creator, generally suck at storytelling as well

EDIT: Just to clarify I don't mean you can't enjoy toxic ships. I didn't get it across well, but what I'm talking about is fans who ignore blatant abuse and try paint it as a "spicy romance" and dismissing healthier ships/couples as "boring and vanilla". If you refuse to acknowledge a relationship is toxic and instead glorify/romanticise it while saying actually healthy ships are too boring then you are in fact a red flag

#thoughts #this applies to so many damn fandoms #vivziepop critical #helluva boss critical #hazbin hotel critical #spop critical #spop critisism #anti catradora #anti spop #lo criticism #lo critical #lore olympus critical #anti lore olympus

[toastyghostcriticalblog]

I swear Vivzepop and her fandom are so backwards like let me get this straight someone can make a au of Stella being happy and moving on from stolas or draw fan art of her just looking cute and suddenly your are a abuser apologist who condone her “evil” actions yet someone can make a au of Valentino and angel dust in a loving relationship or draw Valentino looking cute and it’s all normal and totally not disturbing

#there is something deeply wrong with viv and her fans like it’s that one anime fandom where the female fans that simps for a male character #that is literally a murderer #helluva boss critical #anti helluva boss #anti hazbin hotel #hazbin hotel critical #anti vivziepop #vivzepop critical

[bump-inthe-night]

I hate Vivziepop because she’s a transphobe who overworks and underpays her employees and is constantly burning through them, replacing them every few months. Ex-employees are labeled “abusers” and harassed by her fans for speaking about their awful experiences at SpindleHorse while she plays “victim” to draw sympathy. 

However, I’ve seen people act like Vivziepop's fetishes for fictional men being abused and raped are what make her an awful person, instead of her actions that are harming real people. Even if she didn’t like abuse and noncon, I would still hate her because of how horribly she treats other human beings. 

You can like wholesome or dark fiction and be a terrible person, just like how you can like either and be a good person. Vivziepop’s action makes her a godawful person, not her problematic taste in fiction.

#anti vivziepop #vivziepop critical #hazbin hotel critical #helluva boss critical #spindlehorse critical #fandom #fandom discourse

[raviosprovidence]

I already told some friends this but it makes me extremely mad seeing Lucifer's design in Hazbin because...vivzie already designed lucifer for zoophobia and he's *so much better*

Look at him! Like yeah it is all red but at least it's a nice muted red with lighter accents in the eyes and eyebrows. He's not 50 shades of blood.

The big horns that reference a broken halo are a wonderful touch. I love the grizzled face and hunched back that show he's Old and Has Seen Things. I like the cloak that adds an air of mystery as to what's behind it.

Compared to this...

This is just a White Onceler. He doesn't convey anything lucifer to me other than the snake and the apple on his top hat. He's just another generic triangle tooth twink.

Going back a bit, It also helps for zoophobia that he was supposed to be in a world of characters who WERE bright and colorful so he actually stood out in a good way

Look at these guys! Sure, it's busy, but I can actually tell which characters are what. They all feel like they have their own identity and aesthetic due to their different colors. It's what a cartoon cast is SUPPOSED to look like.

Old lucifer would have stood out in that cast because not everyone is fucking red. New lucifer barely stands out, only because he looks so much like Charlie. And even THEN, they look like siblings!

this isn't official art done by Vivienne but I couldn't find any other good screencaps showing them side by side. If someone didn't know shit about hazbin they'd think charlie and lucifer were twins. Nothing about new lucifer's design suggests that he's a father or even older than 25.

It's sad, honestly. I used to look up to vivienne when I was younger. Now, she's a shadow of her former self as an artist.

#anti hazbin hotel #anti hazbin #anti viviziepop #media critical #fandom talk #character design #hazbin critical #hazbin critique

[littledemon55]

Vivziepop would never act this responsible! 💀 She literally did the opposite of what Ashley is doing!

(Go watch the Far-Fetched pilot when it comes out or watch the teaser on YouTube right now :) )

DO NOT SUPPORT VIVIENNE MEDRANO BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY

Viv kicked out all of the old HH voice actors to replace them with expensive broadway actors and pays her employees less than the bare minimum!

#ashley nichols #fuck vivziepop #anti vivziepop #anti hazbin hotel #vivziepop criticism #vivziepop critical #vivziepop critique #far fetched show #farfetchedshow #anti vivziepop fandom

[bloody-teared-angel]

(DO NOT SENT HARASSMENT TO THIS PERSON!!!!!)

Excuse me, what?

Does everyone think, if the show was written by a male, blonde and baby blue eyed guy, that had every character straight, we would look past the accusations of transphobia, racism, fetishisation of m|m couples, lack of sapphic couples, almost zero body diversity (unless they are a villain), rushed and nonconsistent writing, thematical whiplash, bad workplace environment, not able to take ANY sort of criticism, enabling the insane behavior in the fandom because someone even DARED to point out some inconsistency.

Really, really?

Do people, or the fandom seriously think that? That we would just look past it???? (Maybe Twitter but definitely not Tumblr.)

TLDR due to legal reasons, some things are alleged.

As I stated before, I know there are people hating just for the sake of hating, but with such a full plate of s*it, I really do think a lot of criticism from our side is justified.

#hazbin hotel critical #hazbin hotel criticism #anti hazbin hotel #anti vivziepop #helluva boss critical #helluva boss criticism #vivziepop critical #vivziepop criticism #angel speaks #the fandom is missing a lot of our points and it shows

[magnetengineer]

As someone who's grown up privileged like Vivienne,

As someone who's enjoyed the bigoted abuser life, then renounced those weaknesses,

As someone who victim-blamed, guilted and intimidated others, before I realized there was a better way to exist,

Ew.

I'm privileged to never have been SAed, and I'm a safe space for this SA survivor. I love his boundaries and I feel honored to be trusted with secrets and dark thoughts 🖤

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[habbohotei]

john kricfalusi was already been blacklisted from the industry. what's your point? 💀

#vivziepop fandom #anti vivziepop fandom #hazbin hotel criticism #hazbin hotel critical #hazbin hotel critique

[theoddest1]

1. He's a rapist

2. Dude, he has literally no other interesting traits to him and isn't even a well-written villain. He has ONE well done scene and that's I T.

3. He's a rapist

4. He is a joke of a character. When we first meet him, he is bitching that Angel is living in the Hotel and changes accents 50 times while maintaining his whiney ass voice.

5. He's a rapist

6. At this point, most of y'all like him simply because yall fetishize rape. Now some of the fans just thi k he's an OK villain and that his design is cool, and that's fine, but a HUGE CHUNK OF YOU, including the creator, really look at this guy and think "man he so sexy" and it's genuinely cringe.

7. H E 'S A R A P I S T

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[bbgliker-teehee]

Ah yes,

Gray, Ashy brown, purple gray, slightly tan, and lighter ashy brown....

Viv suckers are a new kind of stupid istg-

#vivzipop critical #anti vivziepop fandom #hazbin hotel critical

[almacambiondaughterofsaleos]

Vivziepoop Stans Love One Note Dimensional Protagonists

They always mentioned how she s/a him but if you dare bring up the idea that Stolas sexually coerced Blitzo then you get tons of justification saying it's Blitzos own fault. It's one thing to always be a villain but it's another thing to be a villain you find in shipping fanfiction to justify having your pairing get together without being condemned for cheating.

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