I fully understand the argument that late season Dean is solely written as The Angry Man™️ without the early seasons nuance and emotional vulnerability he had, BUT Dean's violence, particularly the one toward Sam, was there as early as season 2. And i DON'T say these to be like "their relationship is sooo abusive and terrible and sam is just a poor miserable victim with no choice", i say these with a belief that Sam craves it because he sees physical pain as cleansing and forgiveness and has grown into a masochist by especially associating Dean's love and care with his punches (and it IS love) and i think that's super sexy and amazing. The fact that Sam is indeed bigger and physically stronger, the fact that he COULD defend himself or punch back makes it all the way more delicious. He is a big big strong guy and he would look his brother dead in the eyes and say "you can take another swing at me" and he would kneel in front of him with puppy eyes and bruised face. There's an uncanny sort of trust in there. There's the "it's ok if YOU hurt me. I know you still love me deep down" in there.
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If I could free the spn fandom from one illness, I'd choose the compulsion so many people have to present Sam and Dean as opposites in every facet, big or small. There are many preferences they both share, there are many situations in which they'd both feel or act in really similar ways, and there are certain pillars of their personalities that are essentially identical. Trying to always find that "polar opposites/two sides of the same coin" energy everywhere only ends up twisting and misinterpreting their personalities to make them fit that mold. And there's usually one brother who ends up getting the short end of the stick and being transformed into a caricature that has lost any actual connection to his canon self, just so he can be presented as the opposite of his brother
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supernatural if it had been a sitcom. oh what we could've had
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Rose & Kanaya as Castiel & Dean Winchester from Supernatural sprites
rosemary but it's destiel
Feel free to use these for whatever you want or for edits, just credit me for these outfit designs &/or sprites! It took a lot of hours to come up with these! 💜
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Ohhhh, Cas and Dean talking to Jack in 14x15 under the guise of talking to/about the snake is sooooooooo 🥺
Jack is defensive about opening up about his emotions, so the snake becomes neutral ground -> code for Jack himself.
🐍 🐍 🐍 🐍 🐍 🐍 🐍 🐍 🐍 🐍
AHHHHH! Kill me now.
Cas:
CAS: You've been spending a lot of time with the snake. ("You've been spending a lot of time alone.")
...
CAS: How is he? ("How are you?")
JACK: I don't think he's feeling well. ("I don't think I'm feeling well.")
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DEAN:
JACK: I think it's sad. ("I think I'm sad.")
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DEAN: (accepting this, not pushing him) You try bacon?
(Jack adds bacon to the pan)
DEAN: So does the snake want to take a trip? ("Do you want to take a trip?")
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Dean is such a paradox for me because on the one hand, I have been actively triggered by him in the show, there are moments where, intentionally or not, the writers managed to create a portrayal of manipulation and abuse and control issues that it sets off actual alarms for me. And on the other hand, I would not have him any other way. There is something — not comforting, that’s too soft a word — about knowing where Dean’s actions stem from, having seen and learned all that we do about his childhood neglect and parentification and the trauma he goes through repeatedly in the show, and that he doesn’t come out clean. He comes out a goddamn mess who ends up hurting the people around him in reaction to his own pain!
There’s a reality there that’s. Almost nice, actually. Distressing to watch, but it is a fucking mess, it’s a good mess! He’s got zero healthy coping skills and a healthy relationship with say, his brother, is terrifying because it leaves him open to abandonment!
I’m not sure I’m wording this correctly. There is a way to be a good abuse victim. Take the pain, martyr yourself on it, and then, even if you have no support or idea how to, then you have to become a Good Person who never hurts anyone the way you have been learning to your entire life. Simply toss everything that shaped you out the door and emerge a saint with a tragic backstory. And Dean is not that. And that’s so fucking good. Everything that he has gone through continues to effect the way he treats the people around him, and he can’t fight the behaviors he might recognize as harmful because he also sees them as protecting him (or protecting Sam by keeping Sam with him.)
And sometimes, idk. It feels good to see a guy who didn’t heal the “right way.” Who mostly didn’t heal at all, just keeps the wound open because it’s easier that way.
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idk whose post this is originally and i know this moment was kinda played for laughs in-show but like. they are good enough at hunting animals to find and kill food to eat on a new fucking planet.
they are …. So calm in this situation. they each have their tasks and jobs and they complete them in an orderly fashion, barely even having to talk, like they have a routine for being alone in the middle of the woods. we don’t ever see them doing this, but they must’ve done it before.
at which age do you think john winchester decided his sons needed to learn how to fend for themselves in the Real World and left them in the woods with bows and arrows and knives and said “i’ll be back in 4 days.” cause i’m gonna say 10 and 14? dean might’ve been out on his own before that, with the vague excuse of “training” given to sam to explain his brothers 2 day absence. it was a semi-frequent, maybe quarterly thing throughout their childhoods. obviously not on a Schedule so they never knew when to expect it, but they were always kind of waiting for it. it was just A Thing They Did, just like everything else. a way to prove they were retaining all their training. this was the winchester version of a camping trip. for the first couple years, sam didn’t even know this wasn’t what camping normally meant. he just knew he really hated camping.
one time, john got distracted by a hunt and left them in the alaskan wilderness in october for almost two weeks. one time, john forgot it was sam’s birthday and dean spent any spare time he had looking for cool rocks and leaves to give sam, and promised he’d give him his real presents when they got back. one time, dean got attacked by a goddamn cougar in colorado and sam patched him up and wondered what the tentative friends he had made last week were learning in their tenth grade class. and he hated john but almost cried with relief when he came to get them. dean did almost all the hunting because the very first camping trip, sammy shot a rabbit in the leg and sobbed as it slowly bled to death, and dean never wanted to see that type of anguish again. he hated killing the animals too, but he could do it, because sammy had to eat. he knew john would question it if sam hadn’t improved his skills, so they would set up makeshift archery ranges to practice. and in his reports to john, dean would always give half the kills to sam.
over time, as they got more skilled, john would give them less and less supplies, until at the end they only had a couple weapons each, rope, matches, and a first aid kit. and bobby thought when the boys spent one summer building a fort but refusing the tools he offered them, they were finally being regular kids.
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attacking ur brain with my winchester scar headcanons
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WAIT BIG BRAINED THOUGHT:
Sam does smth stupid hoping Dean won't find out.
Someone rats Sam out to Dean.
Sam gets in trouble and a lecture from Dean (bc Dean is a parent and he is Sam's parent I will not accept criticism on this matter).
Later, Sam makes a group chat consisting of everyone who could have told on him to Dean and just sends this video:
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The funny thing about supernatural is that I don't think it would work if Sam and Dean weren't the nosey bitches that they are. Ik all of their digging in every episode can be justified by the fact that they are trying to crack a case but ultimately I just know that they have an insatiable need to find out people's juicy little secrets and family drama. This is one of the reasons why s10e06 Ask Jeeves has been one of my favourite episodes in the later seasons because not only do I enjoy it narratively, I think it really puts on full display Sam and Dean's sticky beak tendencies because they really did not need to go prying into this family's lives but they did it anyway because they can't just mind their own goddamn business. I honestly do not think half the things in the show would have happened if they just minded their own business.
And it makes sense, like Dean watches soap operas, clearly he enjoys people's family drama and juicy secrets as a guilty pleasure and it's shown in that one episode where Zachariah sends Sam and Dean so some alternate universe where they work some regular office jobs, Sam is just incapable of not picking at any loose thread in his life until the whole thing comes down.
At the end of the day, Sam and Dean are just nosey bitches and that is my truth.
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some gay tumblrina sammy moments <3
image description: scenes from “I Know What You Did Last Summer,” “Taxi Driver,” “Holy Terror,” “First Born,” “Black,” and “The Hunter Games” with various tumblr screenshots
10x01: Sam is on the phone with Crowley, threatening him, and Crowley is not affected by this. text post by reigensboyfriend reads [kinda gay for a man to have dark circles under his eyes. why aren’t you getting a good night’s sleep? too busy thinking about other men?]
9x09: Dean and Sam walk up to Castiel at a crime scene, Dean looking unamused. Sam and Castiel greet each other saying, “Agent.” text post by amortizing reads [third wheeling two girls who are best friends is so much worse than third wheeling a couple]
4x09: Sam tries to bargain with the male crossroads demon he summoned to bring Dean back from hell, who grins and refuses him. tag reads [#you wanna kiss me so bad it makes you look stupid]
9x11: Sam sits on the map table watching Castiel, who then gets up from his chair. post reads [thegayteen: That vaguely flirtatious vibe you have with all your single gay friends / manofmer: This is a real thing / thegayteen: it’s this constant air of like “i’d be down if you were down but i’m not going to pursue it and neither are you so let’s just lowkey flirt all the time”]
8x19: Sam and Dean turn around to see the male crossroads demon Sam has just summoned, who shows them his red eyes. Dean comments, “What happened to the hot chicks?” text post by folkmessiah reads [getting spoken to as if I’m straight by straight people who assume everyone is straight, subsequently feeling like the world’s most useless and irritated secret agent]
10x10: Castiel comes up behind Sam, who is sitting at the map table on his computer. Castiel puts his hand on Sam’s should to get his attention and tell him it’s late, Sam gets up to follow Castiel out of the room. text post by slab-o-meat reads [bro its beddy-bye. its nighty-night, dude]
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reading the tags of a s7 dean crit post to find samgirls going on about how dean is mean to sam and doesnt get that sam is mentally ill and "this is straight up abusive behavior." all i have to say is: do you remember what show you are watching and s7 dean was grieving cas being dead so he is excused from any wrongdoing because he is widowering for the first time.
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of genderswapped sam and dean. who has the short haircut.
THE REAL QUESTION. i could see a case for either. short hair is probably more convenient for hunting after all....
i think dean wears her hair long as a kid because it reminds john of mary. you could make the case that he'd cut her hair because it reminds him of mary too much, but i can't see it really, i think he'd want to preserve the innocence he sees in girlhood that he doesnt seem to in boyhood (a la that whole journal entry about wishing he had girls and how sons have to be soliders). continuing that, i cant actually really see her cutting her hair short at all because it ties her to her mother in her eyes. i think girl dean is like so obsessed with mary. can you imagine like. her whole life is about avenging mary and she's her daughter and the only girl in the family now. she has no adult female role models except her dead mother. she plays into being john (still loves cars and classic rock and wears flannel and leather jackets and is generally 'masculine') but she still sees herself as mary. john sees her as mary too even though he expects her to act exactly like him also. so i think she keeps her hair long. she probably has childhood memories of mary brushing it and wants to hold onto them. i think she likes it long, and i think john likes it long, and i think it reminds them both of mary, and i think they both like that.
sam? well sam is a lot less invested in playing the Role that's expected of him, so. girl sam is victim to levels of misogyny previously unthought of especially in the way where both john and dean see her as soooo weak and little and in need of protection. and they probably rely on the girl thing a lot to infantilise her. so i can totally see her cutting her hair off in a Fuck You to john at some point. tbh i reckon girl sam would have hair like canon sam's later season hair. though rly i can see anything with sam. also i feel like she'd have grown up with a shortish bob because it's easier maintenance (for dean john winchester is NOT bothered with looking after sams hair <3)
also both of those answers are in an au where one of them's raised a girl and the other isn't. but if we're talking total femchesters? john having two daughters? need to think on this more but im still leaning towards sam. i think girl dean commits to being a Girl the same way canon dean commits to being a Guy, even though both of them are shrouded in the same machismo. but sam fights any role hes given
tldr: sam
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my tags on my prev reblog re: dean's misinterpreted attitude toward monsters just got me thinking abt sam and the bloodfreak stuff in general and like, as we know a lot of the early seasons were framed in sam's pov so a lot of the time it' him who's feeling like a monster and projecting that onto others to confirm his own beliefs abt himself. like when he finds out abt john telling dean to kill him if he goes darkside sam suddenly is in agreement w/ john saying john's right and dean has to do it because dad said so !!! anyways that's just preface to what i want to say which is, sam isn't really a monster. what i mean is, he's not a monster in the inherent sense that he seems to think he is, and that's part of the reason why dean pushes back against the demon blood stuff because he knows sam can be saved and for dean his number one job is to save sam because the alternative is following john's order and that's something he just cannot do. so it makes sense that dean would do whatever it takes even if that's being a little mean or forceful (calling him a monster, echoing john by telling him not to walk out that door to give sam pause, forcing him to detox) because he does not want to kill his brother.
but anyways, sam is not a monster in the way he (and a lot of fans) thinks he's a monster. he was Not born a monster, it's not something that is intrinsically and inherently part of him. and i'd argue there's really nothing special or "chosen one"-esque about him (aside from the lucifer bloodline making him a better candidate for vessel purposes), he was just a regular baby who was dosed with demon blood, which in the text is treated as a drug / addiction. there was nothing special about any of the babies azazel dosed, they were just the children of people he'd made deals with. i think pretty much any baby (possibly even adult) who's fed demon blood from a powerful enough demon (like a Prince of Hell) would develop psychic powers. so it's not something completely out of his control that's turning him into a monster like a virus or a vampire / werewolf bite where he can't stop the progression. it's not happening to him he's making active choices to strengthen those powers and the more he feeds the more he wants it. everything w/ ruby is framed as him knowing he's doing something "wrong", the sneaking around, the lying. and i think dean's response is along the lines of "we need to get you help. we need to stop this because it's something that can be stopped. and if we stop it then i won't have to see you lose yourself or go too far. because if you go too far and start hurting people then i might have to kill you and i can't do that so please just let us save you." and i think that's fair. yes he and bobby maybe go about things the wrong way but i think it's born out of desperation. and also it's not a rejection of "this is who you are and we hate you for being a monster" it's "you're making choices that are leading you down a dangerous path and we're scared we may lose you so we're trying to stop you from going too far down that road."
like the end goal of all the bloodfreak stuff (ruby's end goal) was to free lucifer and freeing lucifer would mean sam becoming his vessel. they obviously don't know all that at the time, but in hindsight it's like, yea we should've curbed that bloodfreak stuff sooner. also heaven was telling dean to stop sam too and that he was going down a dangerous path and that if dean doesn't stop him they will (likely meaning death) so again, of course dean's gonna try to do whatever he can to stop sam even if it's by not great methods. (also heaven was playing him too bc they also wanted lucifer to be freed so that Destiny could come to pass)
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If you're a native Spanish speaker, wanna take a stab at the telenovela in 7x03? (It's very hard to hear under the main audio.) You can hear, My love, my love? I think I hear, no me dejes (Don't leave me) in the mix.
I love that Ricardo, you know, has a bloody collar and smudge on his right brow, kind of like...you know:
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7x01
Ahem.
It also, of course, calls to mind John's death in 4x03, but only in how Mary cradles him.
The rest is so-- [REDACTED]
And if you think Dean wasn't grieving in his prickly veneer of toughness, listen to his voice in that brief moment he thought Cas was back. His breathy little "Ca-as?" is sooo shaky.
Then, he and Bobby both grabbed onto him with the intention of getting him home (and working through what just happened, "Okay, one thing at a time.") It was so--
This is the same episode where Cas said he had no more nostalgia for Dean and threatened to snap him into bloody soup, and then Dean urged Death to kill Cas, and Cas looked somehow shocked, despite what he'd just threatened to do himself. They're so--
To say nothing of the look on Dean's face when the Leviathan says in clear words, "Cas is, hmm, gone. He's-- dead!"
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rewatching casualty and we're at ruby's first episode in casualty and sam and iain are so shitty to her. like yeah she's not perfect but like my dudes ?? wtf. yeah, she might have fucked up with daisy the second time, but what she did was literally what the guidelines of her job told her to do, whether that would be considered morally right by everyone or not.
sam and iain definitely aren't my favourite characters by any stretch but i honestly hated them this episode. ruby, to me at least, seems like she might be autistic (doesn't like eye contact, strict moral guide/follows rules, misunderstanding of allistics confusing social rules, etc) and they mocked and belittled her basically the entire episode (quite frankly, it felt a whole lot like ableism to me).
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