#and most of these involve relationships

[kiragecko]

Height and Bodytype Headcanons for the Batfamily

Note that most of the people I hang around with are germanic and tall. I recognize that 6 foot is not the average height for men, but it is around here, and that affects my concepts of what's normal!

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Dick - 5'11" (180cm), and built like a martial artist/ballerina. So, slim with noticeable muscles. Can be shorter if the people he's around aren't all giants - I like him being one of the shorter people in the room.

Babs - 5'10" to 5'11" (178 to 180cm), and angular. She's got boney, pointy limbs and face. She had noticeable curves before her accident, but has never had a particularly slim waist - she's just busty enough, tall enough, and had big enough thigh and butt muscles, to look thinner than she was. Still has the chest, but her large shoulders and softer stomach has changed her silhouette. I like her being taller than Dick in heels, but don't care too much in flats.

Jason - 6'2" (188cm), and built like a Large Rectangle. Big boned, muscular, AND chubby. Jason being at least a little chubby is IMPORTANT to me. Is either slightly shorter OR slightly taller than Bruce, so height can vary to make this possible.

Tim - 5'6" (168cm) and has a similar build to Dick, but usually slightly less defined. Weight fluctuates quickly - he has to concentrate on his diet to keep weight on - and fat usually appears on his limbs first, making them look softer and less muscular than they actually are. But when he forgets to eat a few meals it becomes obvious that he's in shape (if you somehow manage to see him without his usual 3 to 5 layers). You are allowed to imagine him taller but you ARE wrong.

Steph - 5'8" (173cm) and curvy. Anywhere from slightly chubby to moderately fat is good with me. Muscles are never visible no matter how in shape she gets and this frustrates her. ¿Why must she look so cuddly?, she wants it to be obvious she can kick people's teeth in!

Helena (Bertinelli) - 5'9 (175cm) and almost as angular as Babs, but scaled thinner/narrower. Average chest size, but breasts are long/droopy, and don't project much. Lack of curves and small bones make her appear weaker and less muscular than she is. Do not be fooled. Though her proportions also contribute to a subtle sense of hunger and intensity that many people find subtly uncomfortable.

Cass - Anywhere from 5'4" to 5'8" (163 to 173cm). I have no preferences as long as she can wear Tim's clothes. Build like Small Rectangle. She is all muscle. No room for curves. The only weight she gains is muscle, no matter how much she eats. Japanese wrestler Mayu Mukaida seems like a good reference.

Damian - 4'6" to 5' (137 to 152cm) and he ... look, I do not know how to describe an 11 year old. Muscle isn't visible, he just doesn't look noodley. Or chubby. Like, he's 11! That's his body type! (I HAVE an 11 year old. They come in noodley, sticklike, chubby, and not varieties. If you draw that kid with defined muscles you're telling me his family is abusive and okay with warping his skeleton.)

Kate - 5'7" (170cm) and her face is the most angular of the bunch, but the rest of her is stocky gymnastic curves. (Female gymnasts can have SUCH cool bodies - lots of muscle, but none of it defined. It doesn't look the same as fat-based curves, but it also doesn't scream 'muscles' to the casual observer, and I love it!) Her muscle turns to fat QUICKLY, and then she has to build new muscle which doesn't affect her fat deposits much, so she usually has some chub. (Especially when recovering from injuries.) Fat usually appears in her breasts and thighs first - she has a LOT of bras to account for frequent cup size changes.

Duke - okay, I know adult Duke is going to be around 6'1" (185cm). And I know 15-16 year old Duke hasn't finished growing yet. But I don't know how tall he currently is! He's more muscular than most of his siblings, but also lanky. Big hands and feet he hasn't quite grown into ... Hmm, I have decided he was 5'5" and almost stocky when he first started hanging out with Bruce, but has grown at least 3 inches since then and they're having to limit how much he trains because he doesn't HAVE any bodymass left to convert to muscle, it's all going into height. Next month it will be 4 inches.

Bruce - 6'1" to 6'3" (185 to 191cm) and BIG shoulders. 70s martial artist-shaped Batman is really cool, but modern musclebound hulk also seems accurate. He is Shrödinger's Bat. My Batman started in 1939 (which is 15 years before 2011 and 16 years before 2023) and it doesn't make SENSE for him to be 6'3" then. But he is now? Maybe he had a growth spurt when he turned 30. Height can vary to properly scale with current child.

Alfred - 6' (183cm), thin, and boney. He matches his pencil-thin mustache. NOT frail. No old-people bird bones! He's still in his mid-60s. Enough muscle to lift an unconscious Bruce, but it remains a mystery where that muscle is hiding.

#gecko's headcanons #gecko trying to describe bodyshape: #“¿why am I talking about breasts so much?” #helena and kate are here because I wanted to describe more ladies #they will still usually be absent #I WANT to include Helena more #but her relationships with Dick Babs AND Bruce upset me #and most of these involve relationships #I can't only focus on her and Tim! #I have unreasonably strong opinions about their heights #for no real reason

[arabian-batboy]

Duke and Damian moments I think about a lot.

#congratulation to Duke for having the most chill relationship involving Damian #and being the only one in the Batfam he didn't try to fight #I don't know how you did it #duke thomas #Damian Wayne

[gunstellations]

a little family

#buddy daddies #my art #doodles #sometimes a family is an two misfit assassins and the daughter of the guy you offed and thats a okay #but lets not talk about that #we love healing in this house and how do you heal if not after suffering #reis journey through depression and kazukis journey through grief #what 1 little girl does to a man #its 5 am all i can offer are doodles but i love them very much #i know we do reasonably get to call them cowards for not making it gay (esp at the end bc come on) #but i do love whatever relationship they have going becuase theyre just. Thats marriage babe.... #theyre not going to be doing any dating with that committment that is the most domestic ass setting ive ever seen #everyone and their mother assumes theyre married/dating and doesnt even question it because theres NO QUESTION T O ASK #only the people involved apparently dont know theyre married #ok nvm they were cowards for not making it gay. but again. theyre clearly married your honor. theyre just a little stupid

[tanoraqui]

the real problem with The Silmarillion is that the creative sandbox is SO big, from the literal world map to the many-millennia timeline to the characters who are half historical figure constructed from 6 different half-contradictory drafts, half mythical archetype, and don’t even get me STARTED on the theological philosophy… that there is NO chance anyone else will remotely properly write the fic in your head. In other fandoms, I can be pretty sure that at least the people in the carefully chosen 12-person discord server I belong to all have the same fic in their heads that we jammed together at 2am, with the same interpretations of character and theme which we’ve debated and discussed at length. But The Silmarillion? You can spend 3 hours discussing a single character in like a 5-year period and walk away completely happy with shared headcanons BUT SIMULTANEOUSLY certain that their interpretation of the character is fundamentally different than yours, such that any fic they write would suffer from notable if not severe “he would not fucking say that” disorder…and that both your and their interpretations are completely reasonable reads of the text, so you can’t even be mad.

So you HAVE to write ALL your own fic or it’s AGONIZING.

#the silmarillion #tumblr give me polls so I can ask my audience what they most want to read #so I can focus on something instead of just having wildly tonally different plot bunnies bouncing around my head CHALLENGE #me eight months ago: why do so many people write long elaborate return to valinor fics? it’s gets saccharinely samey surely #me now: I want my blorbos to get A chance to live happily ever after but the nuances of their many characterizations and relationships #as well as changes in elvish society culture and technology; the literal effects of the Oath; the attitudes of the Valar #the involvement and/or existence of certain OCs; and the balance of tragedy joy seriousness humor cynicism and hope must all be CORRECT or I #will at best be ANTSY

[cluescorner]

Tim Drake has a weird fucking function

The thing about Tim that I find unique is that his life became SO MUCH WORSE after joining the heroing thing. Everybody else had a mid-to-shit life before becoming a hero/living with Bruce and mostly everybody (except Jason who LITERALLY DIED) had their life improved by being a hero/being Bruce's kid (or at least it is typically portrayed as such.

Tim had the exact opposite trajectory. His life wasn't perfect before he became Robin, but like...multi-millionaire/billionaire (canon is unclear, but he's within Gotham's upper-strata) kid with both natural intelligence + charisma and a bright future ahead of him and parents who were emotionally neglectful but nothing really beyond that (which is also a form of trauma, but all of the info we have indicates that the Drakes were no Arthur Brown or David Cain) and he still had other people he could rely on outside of them. He went to boarding school, which could be something horrible OR something amazing depending on your own thoughts/experiences. I grew up having a commute where we'd drive past a really pretty and rich af boarding school that literally everybody in our area DREAMED of going to, so to me the idea of going to boarding school sounds incredible but mileage may vary. Tim seems like the type of kid who would thrive in that though. Based on what we know in canon atm, his pre-robin life was fucking amazing.

And then he starts being the sidekick and working towards becoming Robin. His parents immediately get kidnapped and poison themselves through drinking tainted water; his mom dies and his dad is in a coma. This is not the fault of Robin, but Tim himself muses about the idea that Robin and dead parents are linked: to become Robin completely, you must lose your parents. And with how fate/destiny/canon events can operate in comics universes, maybe he isn't that far off. Once his dad wakes up, their relationship becomes strained as the man grieves the loss of his wife and realizes that his son has been doing vigilantism as a hobby. It is unclear exactly how good of a parent Jack was before the incident, but the results of Tim's involvement with the Robin mantle has definitely made things worse between father and son. Jack will also die within quick succession of 2 of Tim's best friends, his girlfriend, and his other father. He will also effectively lose like 1/2 his loved ones in the fallout of all of that mess including: his older brother, his other friends (both civilian and superhero), and the stepmother with whom he shared what I would argue is his best parent-child relationship (Dana also may have died, but it's left unclear). He has stopped pursuing higher education (the moment he even applied for college he 'died', and it seems he hasn't made another attempt since) and if he wasn’t a major focus of the media before he sure is now. He tries to quit briefly (in fact he initially was planning on quitting once someone more suited came along) and cannot bring himself to do so. Even when he does manage to get away for a while, his superhero life impacts the pre-robin life he is trying to go back to. Leaving is an impossibility, this is all there is for him now. He also isn’t allowed to make mistakes anymore, not when lives hang in the balance. The one who enforces that impossible standard the most (besides Bruce depending on who's writing) is himself. He’s got TRAUMA now and people want to hurt him constantly. He is constantly questioning his own sanity and morality and place in the world. He almost dies like every month. Tim grows colder and less grounded, he is becoming both a better and a worse version of himself at the same time. He’s saving lives in the same few issues as he’s setting up a Saw movie plot for the man who killed his father. He is haunted by the ghosts of his past and the looming figure of his future. His life becomes SO MUCH FUCKING WORSE after he becomes Robin. Some of it is the fault of others, some is the fault of circumstance, and some of it is due to his own actions. But basically all of Tim's worst traumas and life-changing moments are either tied to or caused by Robin. Dick's parents would still be dead, Jason would still be living on the streets, Stephanie would still have Arthur Brown for a father and a lot of other things that deserve their own posts/IDK if they've been retconned, and Damian would still have been raised in the eco-cult where death is a constant. Those are life circumstances that occur without the involvement of Robin, the only one who even needs Bruce involved at all in their series of events is Damian. But Tim? All of what is considered his 'worst' moments occur after he assumes the role.

This idea is what I find the coolest and most fascinating about Tim as a character. Being a hero is usually portrayed as either an outright awesome thing or a righteous duty that one must fulfill or (maybe in a grimmer and/or more grounded story) a sacrifice to your interpersonal relationships/mental health that is made for the greater good. For Tim, being a superhero actively ruined his life (both because of the general circumstances surrounding being a kid vigilante and the choices he made as part of that role). It's never portrayed that way in canon because we need to come out of issues going 'wow being a superhero is so cool! I'm gonna buy the next issue!', but when you just look at Tim's life literally everything really bad that we know of occurred after he became Robin.

#tim drake #batman #batfamily #Red Robin 2009 #Red Robin #idk this is just why I think Tim is a really interesting character. I'm probably not being as articulate as I could be but it's tumblr so #I've had a lot of people say that they think Tim is the most boring robin. And I disagree because I don't think any of them are boring #but it is definitely the hardest to explain what makes Tim interesting to people with only a cursory knowledge #and it doesn't help that a lot of what makes Tim cool relies on his relationships with OTHER characters. #like you can explain why Jason is cool and interesting without even mentioning Batman if you really want to. #with Tim you need a fucking relationship chart and like 11 asterisks whenever anything involving the 'Bruce is dead' era is involved #so I just felt like typing up why I think he can really work as an exploration of somebody who straight up got WORSE after heroing #granted it's never actually stated because DC needs to make money. and tbh the closest we've ever gotten is Red Robin 2009 #which I feel is dubiously canon at best at this rate. was it retconned? did any of it happen in the current universe?

[commsroom]

let's kill hilbert is a great hera and minkowski episode in how well it displays some of the best and worst of their dynamic (and highlights the source of their ongoing miscommunication.)

"i'm doing the best i can here, so just, please, try to sound a little less patronizing?" / "i'm not being patronizing, i'm being critical." sums up the disconnect: that what minkowski sees as professional criticism and an attempt to combat future problems, hera takes as a personal attack. ultimately, minkowski's suggestions to lighten her burden are well-meaning and closer to what hera needs than any faith in her ability to do her job (there are things she can't do, and things she shouldn't have to), but she's been made to believe her worth as a person - and her continued survival - hangs in the balance. and so, the scene that leads to that one, where minkowski takes the navigation controls from hera: "no, it's fine! i can -" / "i don't care what you can, give me the controls right now." stands out for the wording used, the different things that are meant by it, and what it reinforces for hera: i can't do this. i'm not good enough.

it makes sense that the resolution, where minkowski tells hera, "you are the smartest person i've ever met, hera; focus that intelligence [...]" is one of the moments she thinks of at the end of memoria. because it's a turning point for their relationship, because it's a show of trust ("i trust you" coming very shortly after "i need to know that i can trust you."), because it's a show of respect and the only moment in the entire show where someone refers to hera by rank, but also...

i think there's something to be said for how minkowski's voice at the end of memoria is a direct expression of belief in hera's abilities, while eiffel's "use the force, luke" shows that what hera values about eiffel is... well, eiffel, but i think it's also true that both of these things show something about communication. they show hera's understanding of eiffel and minkowski's unique communication styles, what they say and what they mean by it, and that shows what they mean to her.

"you are the smartest person i know, hera" (a slight alteration from the original line that has a ton of implications re: context and memory) isn't really about her intelligence, or even her ability. contextually, it's a direct counterstatement to "i don't care what you can" and, by association, and through their connection - minkowski's voice becomes, quite literally, like eiffel's, another voice in her head counteracting what pryce has made hera believe about herself.

#wolf 359 #w359 #hera wolf 359 #renee minkowski #i think this is a turning point in the sense of... i don't think it was necessarily an epiphany at the time. #because they definitely have. other conflicts. for similar stuff #but it is... i think a crucial step towards understanding each other. it's a process. and that process involves #hera holding onto a grudge about 'calm collected and levelheaded' so she can throw it back at minkowski a few episodes later #she's soo petty. anyway. #i really do think minkowski is the second most important person to hera and i think memoria highlights that very clearly. #their relationship does not get enough focus.

[liquidstar]

honestly does anyone else think that the what:if routes are perhaps telling us that some sort of collision between subaru and reinhard is just inevitable in nearly every route

#re:zero #my game theory. i mean. light novel theory... is that somewhere somehow down the line subaru will have to face reinhard #and when that happens he will be his worst obstacle yet like in most alt routes #made worse by their relationship at this point #but also maybe perhaps UNLIKE in all the alt routes something will be different #and i dont mean that in a good way. im thinking maybe subaru could finally figure out The Trick to beating the strongest man alive #somehow. #and it might involve garfiel based on some stuff thats been foreshadowed who knows #what exactly would beating entail though? he cant die bc of the divine protection of the phoenix #but that being said if he somehow had all his divine protections taken away i mean... hed actually be relatively weak imo #his body would still probably remember how to move like a sword saint (like therisia's did in arc 5) #but like that can also be a bad thing like #would his body perhaps also forget that he has to ACTUALLY DODGE PROJECTILES bc they wont just magically miss him anymore? #will he try to walk on water only to sink like an idiot? #will he not check the label on the sugar only to find out its salt? #either way he wouldnt be the strongest man alive anymore hed just be a skilled swordsmen. julius could probably match him at that point #which im sure would be surreal to juli after years of admiration+envy+being gay about it

[sonknuxadow]

thinks about the idw sonic issue where rouge and amy and cream went on a mission together and they were staying at that hotel or resort or whatever it was and amy and cream were eating breakfast and rouge shows up at the table like Damnnn everybody here is wearing cheap jewelry. Not worth stealing. and amy is like Ummm...... is that really the best example to be setting for cream :/ and rouge is like Absolutely not cream if youre going to try to rob a bunch of people at a hotel make sure theyre rich first okay

#theyre so silly .... #sonic is my favorite sonic character ever but also i like it when we get stuff that doesnt focus on him as much #because sonic being the main character and most of the games taking place from his perspective #often limits the amount of character interaction we can see that doesnt involve him #and i really like seeing different pairs or groups of characters interacting and seeing what their relationships are like ... #and getting to see them be sillay together #idw sonic and comics in general give more opportunities for that sort of thing. since sonic technically doesnt have to be in every story #its nice #well he was in the story im talking about but we got to see a bit of the girls doing their own thing before he showed up so.

[booasaur]

The Nevers (2021) - 1x12

#theneversedit #the nevers #amalia true #penance adair #laura donnelly #ann skelly #the nevers spoilers #the nevers 1x12 #amalia x penance #femslash related stuff #but subtext #ughhhh #I love them so much guys #they're just so cute together #and their relationship...it's not just that they can both bring out the best in each other #that they both trust each other the most #their values complement each other #that they *understand* each other #it's also that they just like each other! they like to just hang around and make their little plans and dumb jokes #screw so many people involved with all this #also the misogynistic world we live in where if they'd been men...the response to this show would have been far different >_> #also notice how on edge amalia is about any threat to penance #after that vision #the ''shoot us??'' is far more about her concern for penance than about herself

[antisocial-author]

Soul Eater 🤝 She-Ra and the Princesses of Power 🤝 The Owl House

implied but not explicitly canon girlboss x malewife ship that is central to the plot

#soma #glimbow #huntlow #soul eater #she-ra and the princesses of power #the owl house #soul x maka #glimmer x bow #hunter x willow #<- for a little more clarity. soma tends to get lost in the search given it's an actual name and not just a ship #but yeah don't mind me just something i noticed #granted most things i ship end up being soma #it's like a base component of my favorite relationship dynamics #i will never escape it #another thing these ships have in common is that they all involve autism :) #maka bow hunter autistic i'll die on this hill #(also while huntlow and glimbow aren't as central as lumity and catradora they are still central) #(and still progress the plot of the overall story)

[haleelah]

Jason : I can't fix him.

Jason : But I can sure as hell marry him and pull him away from the influence of his demanding father. Maybe then that would finally calm him, and I'm sure as fuck It will do wonders for his frayed self worth.

#jaydick #jason would definitely be that kind of spouse who would pulle their partner from toxic family members #he would be like 'i went through that shit with my biological dad' ' ain't no way i'm doing it again with my in-law!' #and as much as i love the relationship between bruce and jason pre death they just will never see eye to eye again #love is not enough anymore when real understanding and acceptance( not tolerance!!) cease to exist between family members #that's when the most healthy choice to all parties involved will be distancing from each other #and if jason is as emotionally mature as i headcanon him(unlike the shit show they try to push on us in canon) #then he will pack himself and his husband up and off of gotham and the influences of their domineering and stifling father figure!! #رضا بروس وايين غاية لا تدرك!! #like jason still loves bruce he is just aware that their relationship cannot really recover what they had been through

[whitestormsaystransrights]

Look, it’s him, Shadowsight, and only Shadowsight

What do you mean there’s something behind him?

#wc #warrior cats #my art #warriors #Ashfur #Shadowsight #this is him at the end of the arc looking back on things #I think sometimes Shadowsight would see Ashfur out the corner of his injured eye #but then turn and see no one there #maybe sometimes Shadowsight can still hear his voice #I really like Shadowsight and his character arc is surprisingly well done #the most frustrating thing about Shadowsight is that he has no steaks in Thunderclan or Bramblestar and Squirrelflight’s relationship #so Ashfur has do a bunch of random stuff to get Shadowsight involved #I still think Alderheart should have been Shadowsight but I do like Shadowsight for what he is

[hoffmanstits-enjoyer]

Rosalee: when i first met you, i thought you and Monroe were a couple

Nick: what?! wait... ha-ha Rosalee, that's very funny-

Rosalee, unimpressed: raise your hand if at any point you thought Nick and Monroe were a couple

Holly & Hap: *raises hand*

Bud & The Eisbibers: *joining*

Frank, Barry & Roddy: *out of the loop but doing it*

Hank, Wu, Renard & Juliette: *you guessed it*

Nick: OKAY! i guess this is a thing now- Monroe, why are you raising your hand?!

#incorrect grimm quotes #rosalee takes no nonsense #she's cute but vicious #i love her #the women from grimm are all badasses #i also think most people that get to know those two think at some point that there's more to it #i mean a blutbad and a grimm?! there has to be something stupid like lust involved #flashback to that episode monroe realized all of the secrecy of their relationship made it sound like he was a side piece #good times #nick burkhardt #monroe grimm #rosalee calvert #sean renard #hank griffin #frank rabe #barry rabe #holly clark #hap lasser #juliette silverton #bud wurstner #arnold rosarot #roddy geiger #drew wu #grimm #nickroe

[tennessoui]

Ah, has Padme noticed that Obi-Wan is assigned to Senate duty and that's why she's making assumptions about why Anakin is worried?

this chapter and the last chapter take place within like...an hour or so of each other -- so no one knows yet about obi-wan's new assignment cause he's been given it only a little bit ago!

i think padmé really is trying in this chapter, trying to speak anakin's language and understand him - and i think she really does, as much as she can. she's relating her experiences of being worried about anakin to anakin's experiences being worried about obi-wan (which baby, honey. are you really not going to notice that you're talking to anakin as if he's obi-wan's wife).

in my opinion, she's not really making assumptions about why anakin is worried here. anakin flat out tells her that he was worrried that obi-wan was injured, that that's why he stayed.

she's really just trying to get him to realize that he shouldn't go running off to be by obi-wan's side every time he gets an intrusive thought that obi-wan could be hurt when logically there's a very slim chance that he has been been and a very big chance that he could get help IF he ever was. because the war is over. obi-wan has amazing access to the best healthcare on coruscant. he would be FINE if he felt a sudden twinge in his chest or whatever.

it's just that anakin doesn't want to hear that. anakin doesn't want to live in a world where he can't drop everything to get to obi-wan's side. anakin doesn't want space between him and his master. he doesn't get why he should. if that's because of the war, like he sorta implies in the chapter, or if it's always been like that for him--for them, i don't think matters as much right now as the fact that anakin and anakin's wife are on solidly opposite ends of this debate

and it's really only going to get more rocky from here as we move away from the end of the war and both of them have different expectations of what comes next

#asks #couples counseling au #obikin #it's not been mentioned yet because obi-wan and padme haven't started working in the senate together yet #but i think one of the aspects of the fic im looking forward to the most #is moments where obi-wan and padme talk and obi-wan gets an outsiders pov into anakin and padmes relationship #but it also sort of feels still like padme is the outsider #aka she tells him in a cold and cutting argument they have #that anakin woke up from nightmares screaming obi-wan's name for three weeks post the end of the war #like im just excited to get obi-wan's pov of anidala where its very obvious to the readers that anakin is not as obsessed with his wife #as he is with his master #and yet obi-wan doesn't quite notice #and padme won't quite admit it #and anakin isn't actually involved in teh conversation at all #but so anyway i think when she's speaking in this chapter she's speaking from her own experiences watching and trying to comfort anakin #post end of war #and her own experiences missing anakin during the war #it's just anakin doesn't have room in his dialogue/his head to really give that the weight it deserves #because he's obi-wan all the time

[not-poignant]

@trachymedusa replied to your post “raphael casually laying out the actual...”:

But Raphael said that he owes Astarion a favor! Surely Astarion can use that as leverage to negotiate better terms for himself somehow. HE USED TO BE A MAGISTRATE

​I think it's a mistake to assume that Astarion is anywhere on the same level as Raphael for negotiation power. One has been alive for thousands of years and lives and breathes contracts, the other was a Magistrate for a proportionately short period of time and then was tortured, brainwashed and a slave for like 200 years.

Astarion can certainly negotiate better terms for himself if he wants, but Raphael will likely only allow him one better term, and there's certain things in the second contract that are completely unavoidable (i.e. Astarion cannot access the sun if he does not perform these things he won't want to do, it's literally part of the Rite).

But it's always important to keep in mind, imho, that this is still very much an experienced torturer with thousands of years of experience with contracts, vs. Astarion, who has more experience being a torture victim, and has more time under his belt as a torture victim. Their power differential is huge, and they'll never be equals, favour or not. It's tempting to think Astarion has significant leverage, but he only has whatever section of rope Raphael allows him for the most part.

The favour will make things more fun though, which is why Raphael offered it lol

#trachymedusa #palmarosa #thespectaclesofthor #but honestly the *most* important thing to keep in mind is that raphael is a devil #this is not going to become a fair or equal relationship #that doesn't mean some things won't improve #but other things will not improve at all #torture is part of raphael's lifeblood #(sort of) #it is at least very much something he feeds off #there is no world where he offers astarion a 'live in my HoH for a while' style contract #that does not involve agony on some level #and no favour in the world can erase that

[altschmerzes]

like i should not have to say in the notes of my fics on ao3 'this is a gen fic, it is clearly marked as a gen fic, it is not meant to be shippy, please respect that' when the fic is already clearly marked as gen and with tags indicating the dynamics are not romantic/sexual.

and then it still doesn't work. people still do this shit, no matter how loudly or clearly people say that on their fics. nobody can make you read and interpret a fic a certain way but what is it gonna take for you to understand other people's gen fics are not about your ship and you absolutely should not be saying things about your ship to the author based on their gen fic. most of fandom is already about you and what you're interested in can you not be happy with that and leave me and my fics and every other gen fic out there the hell alone.

#gav gab #is it not enough that most of this is already for you? does it need to be ALL OF IT? #the entitlement of people who think the point of fandom on the whole is shipping is off the charts #and it often speaks to how they view real people and relationships too tbh #look at any anecdote on this website involving affection or acts of care or going to extraordinary measures for someone #and the tags and comments are full of people being fucking weird about it #if the nature of the relationship between the people spoken about is explicitly nonromantic #which as an aromantic. lmfao. #if people cannot be normal about my gen fic #i definitely cannot trust them to be normal about my marriage #is all i'm saying