#abstinence only

[neeshachar]

On my 100th reread of tgcf (I'm halfway through the first book) I am only now realising how much of a romantic Xie Lian is.

I thought the only line that indicated his nature was during the seaside "what matters is you, not the state of you" conversation where Xie Lian said "there were very difficult times in my life where I imagined if someone could see me like that and still love me. I still don't know if there would be anyone like that". But this is way later in the 3rd book and before that I hadn't imagined Xie Lian wanting someone to love him.

But I am now realising its outright clear from the beginning. In the first quest, Xie Lian enters the tea shop and looks out the window, noticing how beautiful the scenery was and his first thought was "this would be such a nice place for lovers' chance encounters" and immediately after that he has in own meet-cute with the butterfly.

Later, as he is led out of the bridal sedan by Hua Cheng, he is constantly thinking how great a husband Hua Cheng would be, "considerate, patient, loving" etc etc. Xie Lian enjoyed playing the bride then. He was thinking "oh it would be so nice if this were real, and this man was my husband". You cannot tell me that Hua Cheng was the only one swooning at the hand holding.

I see so many posts and edits of Hua Cheng being whipped from the start, but honestly Xie Lian was falling in love right from Mount Yujun. He knows nothing of the man but from one romantic encounter he remembers the boot bells so fondly and decides "he was soft with me. I like him". I know it's mxtx's doing and all but there is still something to be said when the story is narrated entirely in Xie Lian's head that every interaction XL has with San Lang that onwards is painted so romantically. Xie Lian is a romantic, it didn't take him long to fall hard and love Hua Cheng on purpose.

#I suppose this inspires bigger discussions on his abstinence and how in all those years he didn't love anyone else #or about his sexuality if he knew that in youth he didn't like women #Inspired by an edit I saw of them on “Can't Help Falling in Love” #“wise men say only fools rush in” when it is truly the og wise old man XL rushing in first #XL fell first? Can i say that? Actually idc I *will* say that #tgcf #tgcf xie lian #tgcf hua cheng #tgcf hualian #heaven official's blessing

[itsdefinitely]

do girl jeri and boy jerry exist explicitly to torment me

#boy jerry #girl jeri #abstinence camp #just reread my favorite jeri/ry fic im not okay #what the fuck is wrong with them why are they like that. never change 👍 #i need to stop provoking jeri/ry thoughts after i'm supposed to be alseep how am i meant to go to bed #when there are fictional characters who are doomed to be apart no matter how much they want to be together. no matter #how inseperable they are #no matter how much they love each other unconditionally. even after they each broke their number one rule #no matter how much theyve forgiven each other (but not really. theres some deep seeded part of them that cant be forgiven) #no matter how close they are to each other. they can only be friends. very close friends #hi have you ever thought about 'the little death' in reference to 'til death do us part'? because i do. i do. #definite's ted talks

[exalt1ora]

i only have 2 moods: stephanie lauter and ruth fleming

#starkid #hatchetverse #hatchetfield #nerdy prudes must die #npmd #nightmare time #abstinence camp #mariah rose faith #lauren lopez #theater kid #men only have two moods

[susie-dreemurr]

Btw Chasity’s dynamic with Stephanie is so funny.

Like to literally anyone else who does what Steph does, Grace would think of them as an awful sinner who deserves to burn in hell. But since it’s her “friend” Steph, Grace is like “I can fix her”

Of course, Grace is the unhinged one and Steph is normal-ish. But this would still be her train of thought.

#abstinence camp #grace chasity #stephanie lauter #nightmare time #npmd #Steph and Pete kiss in the hallway and Grace is itching to kill #but doesn’t bc not only is Pete her friend but most importantly he’s STEPH’s boyfriend. leave him for last. #need more content of them lol

[mumblesplash]

anyone on here ever figure out how to dress for a summer wedding when you’re nonbinary and can’t stand suits or dresses or jumpsuits or button-down shirts and all you ever voluntarily wear are black joggers + polyester blend athletic shirts in colors ranging from navy blue to gunmetal

#my abstinence-only approach to gender expression is really starting to bite me in the ass #this isn’t so much a genuine cry for help as it is me complaining into the void ngl i have p much given up hope #but like if someone knows. please. #if it doesn’t become socially unremarkable to dress like a pirate on formal occasions #sometime in the next 3-5 years i’m gonna mcfucking lose it #either that or all my friends + relatives have to stop getting married #mumbling

[lilacthebooklover]

part of the reason why i find nightmare time episodes so interesting is because in half of them, i'm not even sure who the writers want me to root for.

take honey queen, for example. linda's the focus of it and we see her emotions, motivations & family, so it's expected that she would be the "hero" of the episode. but she isn't. the episode consists of her doing horrible things to zoey, zoey doing horrible things to her, and it gradually escalating to the point of kidnapping and murder. it's due to linda that zoey dies. and she gets what she wants, what the whole episode has been about her vying to achieve, but we as viewers don't feel satisfied, because how can all that's happened possibly be worth such a tiny, temporary, meaningless title? linda's father seems to be proud of her, which is what she's been hoping to gain and added an extra element of sympathy for her character. but in the end, he sacrifices her to an eldritch being because she "the hungriest". honey queen is tragic and comedic and messed up and chaotic and there are The Horrors and nobody is distinctly good.

and that stays the same in every nightmare time episode. so many of these characters wouldn't care a bit if they killed someone, as long as they were able to survive. but that's just hatchetfield. a strange community of selfish people with no clear morals, because that's all they know and that's all they can be if they want to survive. they have a magic child fighting ring, they have evil weed birds, they have clones in the technical department, they have an asexual axe murderer in the woods, they have a wealthy doting mother who's been alive for centuries, they have a 1986 foxbody mustang possessed by a dead psychiatrist, so on and so forth.

the whole hatchetfield universe is so surreal: this is a place where people go missing every day, where gruesome murders are dismissed unless it threatens their football team losing to the clivesdale chemists, where a character can do the most horrendous things or seem absolutely irredeemable, only for the narrative to put them through so much that the audience ends up loving them.

each character is so complex and unique (i could write an essay about literally any of them if i tried to- and yet that includes peanuts the hatchetfield pocket squirrel). none of them are meant to be all good, and none of them are meant to be all bad. they're realistic to their environment and screwed over by their universe and they all have their own lives to focus on.

the vast majority of the antagonistic characters are very beloved in this fandom, because this is hatchetfield, where the most horrifying things are normalised in-universe, so they begin to be for us, too. we don't think it's as awful when we see zoey's body hanging from the rafters, or watch boy jeri be killed by his own son, or see eldritch beings hunt people down, since that's all seen as far more normal in this world. besides that, people like to have flawed characters, it's good to have little fictional freaks committing atrocities since it means the episodes are completely unpredictable.

every volume of nightmare time is a rollercoaster or a fever dream, because they'll take the most unexpected characters and the most random concepts ever and throw them into a completely absurd plot. so many modern pieces of media follow a specific genre or structure, but the hatchetfield universe does whatever the hell it wants, and it's so investing to see. there aren't any limits here, and each episode is a separate timeline, so the creators can go wild and do literally anything with this town. it's like a treasured collection of cracky aus that have been written and performed astonishingly beautifully.

anyway, this is your sign to go check out nightmare time and @blinkysrewatchparty! it will be entirely worth it, i promise <3

#nightmare time propaganda #LOOK IT'S SO UNHINGED I NEED MORE PEOPLE TO RAMBLE ABOUT IT WITH ME #nightmare time #nightmare time 2 #exposing myself #i still have over half of the episodes to watch #i've seen lots of snippets from tumblr of what happens in each #(e.g. tom makes love to a car #ted & tinky's whole thing #paul 23 and emdroid) #but the only ones i've watched to completion are #honey queen #abstinence camp #daddy nmt #and #hey melissa #they were all phenomenal though & i'm very much looking forward to finding time to watch the rest of the series! #watcher world seems especially up my alley :) #nightmare time starkid #starkid #starkid productions #hatchetfield universe #hrhhghhff it's so insane <3 #linda monroe #zoey chambers #team starkid #hatchetfield #hatchetverse #i'm pretty sure the only 2 characters the fandom genuinely despises are pamela & melissa #the rest are our blorbos <33

[the-writer-nerd-ro]

It's crazy that being attracted to Grace Chastity has gotten three guys killed

#i mean I'm sure her technical kill count is more than that but only three of them died because they liked her #grace chasity #abstinence camp #nerdy prudes must die #hatchetfield #nightmare time

[i-saw-your-chanel-boots]

"the beloved, fan favourite nightmare time episode jane's a car" makes me wonder

#hey melissa didn't make the cut because it's not on youtube and polls can only have 12 options #starkid #polls #poll #nightmare time #nightmare time 2 #hatchetfield #musicals #the hatchetfield series #the hatchetfield ape man #watcher world #forever and always #time bastard #jane's a car #the witch in the web #honey queen #perky's buds #abstinence camp #daddy #killer track #yellow jacket

[secondstar-acorn]

thinking about abstinence camp! lautski and losing my fucking mind again

#I love them sm #there’s just something about abstinence camp that hits different #their solidarity over being the only normal people at that camp <3 #Steph giving Pete the chocolate bar #Pete trying to save Steph from Lil Jerry #the shower scene #just. AHHHHHHHH #them #lautski #stephanie lauter #peter spankoffski #abstinence camp #nightmare time #nightmare time 2 #nmt2

[just-another-obsessed-fangirl]

theories as to where Grace got the cigarette she was smoking after fucking Max's ghost:

she has actually secretly been an active smoker for a long time and always carries a pack with her

she bought a pack of cigarettes when she was on the run from the cops because she was stressed, and figuring that she had already disappointed the Lord by touching herself and lying to the police and dismembering a body, decided that she might as well relieve that stress by taking up smoking

Max died with a pack of cigs and a lighter on him and they stayed with him when he turned ghost and Grace pocketed them from his clothes after they had sex

she just found them in the school or on the ground somewhere after the Lords in Black meeting, and perhaps her mind made the association between sex and cigarettes and that's how she came up with the idea of giving up her chastity to end Max's reign of terror

Grace had immediately thought of giving up her virginity as the sacrifice after the Lords in Black meeting, and the entire time Steph and Pete are running away and tearfully coming to terms with Steph having to kill Pete to stop Max, Grace is running around the school or off to a drug store for cigarettes because she felt having a smoke after was that necessary

#grace chasity #nerdy prudes must die #npmd #seriously where did she get that cigarette ive been wondering abt it a lot #her being a secret smoker doesnt seem very in character to me #but weirdly i feel like it makes the most logical sense? #itd easily explain why she has cigarettes on her and she seemed pretty comfortable with smoking #she wasnt like coughing or anything. like she couldve done it before at least once. #2nd most plausible to me was maybe that it was actually max's?? but idk doesn't seem that much more plausible than some of the other ones #her looking for cigs could explain where she was when the steph/pete stuff was happening but not necessarily explain the other way around #though maybe she did think it was necessary. grace almost definitely didn't have accurate sex ed and was sheltered #maybe thru like the media that she could watch she just believed smoking after was the expected thing #or some church sex ed lesson she had that combined abstinence only and no smoking messages #idk. it's 4 am. i dont know what im doing. #my posts

[rentumblsstuff]

“DONATELLO THE NINJA TURTLE WOULD NEVER TREAT ME LIKE THIS!!”

…

-Stephanie probably.

#hatchetfield #starkid #stephanie lauter #npmd #abstinence camp #nmt2 #as someone with a crush on Raph I will stand by Steph having a crush on Donnie #tmnt #tmnt 2012 #2012 Donnie too cause he’s smart AND LANKY #Steph has a type when it comes to her fictional crushes that only coincides with her real crushes when she starts dating Pete #pine and I already joked abt Steph being a monster fucker in an AU we were talking about

[doccywhomst]

school reunion but ten subs for the school nurse and has to teach RSE/sex ed but he genuinely doesn’t remember what anything’s called so he just squeakily wheels in the old CRT/VCR combo and also watches from the back of the room

#he reeeeeally lucked out w the physics class huh #pythias curse was probably abstinence only💀💀💀

[marzipanandminutiae]

You posted about getting married young, and I just wanna say thank you? I got really lucky and met THE woman when we were 17, and engagement is in the horizon for us at 22, 23. Sometimes it gets to me when people say we're wasting our youth, it's nice having someone batting for us

Also love the pfp, carmilla fans are still alive and well and if you've got any fanfic recs lmk

Congrats! I hope it works out for you. (I would say "girl" at 17, not "woman," but I assume it's just a random word choice since it sounds like you're the same age, so not a big deal.)

While I of course don't advocate for child marriage- ie marriage below age 18, and really I think 20+ is wiser -the whole "date around or you're Wasting Your Youth!!!" narrative pisses me off, like I said. I grew up with that shoved down my throat to the point where I believed my own desires to just meet the right girl and stay with her forever were just youthful romanticism; that I'd "mature" and want to date more people instead of wanting to settle down. (And for some people that is the trajectory! And that's fine! Just...not everyone.)

When your mother got so lost in the Swinging Sixties sauce during her own teen years that she goes too far the opposite way of most parents, I guess?

Yeah, someone might regret a young marriage. But they might regret ANY marriage- that's just a risk you take when you get married. Trusting people to know their own minds in relationships that present no actual red flags is important, even for teenagers. Teaching young people not to trust their own (harmless) emotions and desires for their lives because it doesn't match what you'd have them do seems horribly backwards to me. It's a dangerous precedent to set for them.

When I was 16, I thought I'd be perfectly happy if I married a girl I met at that age- when we were older, of course. Now I'm 30, and guess what? I still think that. I would have been satisfied. Hell, I wish that had happened. It's not right for everybody, but it would have been right for me.

I hope things work out for you two!

#ask #anon #relationships #romance #the problem with abstinence-only sex ed and purity culture is not 'people not sleeping around' guys #it's the shame and guilt and ignorance and lack of CHOICE #(now I do think waiting to have sex until after marriage is a bad idea if you intend to have sex. you should know if you're compatible) #(before legal vows are taken) #(we're not living in the 19th century anymore where non-virgin women are considered Fallen and suffer material consequences) #(at least not in the US where I am) #(make sure you like sex with this person before you vow to have sex with only them forever) #(*monogamous marriage) #but that's not the same thing

[storm-of-feathers]

damn why did i stop being an alcoholic being drunk rules actually i dont feel a single OUNCE of my burdens. i just feel the wine. and its pink.

#this post is mostly a joke OBVIOUSLY i dont wanrt to be a True Alcoholic again #ive been sober #(in the definition that i dont consider myself addicted - not in the definition of complete abstinence) #since 2018. and its been very good for me obviously #but damn i gotta remember that alcohol exists and i have some if i ever truly need to unwind #bc like. yk. i have a lot of trouble unwinding #i used to have this uhh #one of my grandmothers brothers. idk the word. #he always said that the world was so bright and loud and sharp. except for when he drank. #dgmw. i do think autism runs on my dads side #(and thats cool!! bc it proves autism isnt just a white thing!!!!! something thats unfortunately a popular belief :/) #but i think there was def a genetic susceptibility to it on my moms side too #like ofc i was going to be autistic!! look at my family!!! #which is interesting bc as far as anyone can tell my only biological sibling isnt autistic #i have two Additional siblings but thats a longer story. but i love them both just as much as my biological sib #i love having lots of siblings by choice #so many of my younger friends have said im like an older brother they need #and i love that tbh. i love that i get to be something i desperately needed when i was a terrified teenager #n e ways. if u read this far thank you its just wine drunk ramblings. #WHO want to run in the forest naked with me

[visenyaism]

Thr importance of Cole's hotness in that post about history is the value and power given to sex appeal and the association of ugliness with internal failing.

Thanks

absolutely and i think that concept of the (able) body as a commodity under feudalism whether that’s as a sexual object or as a tool used to commit a lot of violence is a huge part of asoiaf’s commentary on masculinity and gender violence as a whole.

#abstinence only being honorable if you CAN pull bitches but choose not to as opposed to being unable to. very strange

[usernameproxy]

i made Joan Church talksprites! Providence (act 1) version, Grimd'arc version, and godtier version! (knight of hope) more propaganda is in the tags :3

Vote for Joan Church in @original-character-championship!

#my art #digital art #joan church #homestuck fancharacter #knight of hope #talksprite #shes really really smart (she knows advanced calc and linear algebra and speed solves sudoku puzzles) but also soooooo stupid (her- #boyfriend actually knew she was an asexual lesbian WAY before she did. im talking years here) #shes president of the abstinence club which has a total of like 3 or 4 members (her best friend/future girlfriend who only joined- #for joans sake and dest and maybe triton.) #she eventually becomes butch or at least butch adjacent and is butch4butch nerd4nerd with mary :) #mary is the best friend/future girlfriend btw. mary's post scratch son is literally jesus. and also they're both jewish #joan church's planet (sburb mechanism) is the planet of PYRES and MARTYRDOM. there's no quest bed because the planet is covered in golden- #pyres which yes. she does get burnt on one but as least not alive (already killed by her boyfriend directly after grimd'arc)