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#Wisely Kamelot
arimiaromage · 3 days
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I do not trust wisely.
throwing out my thoughts before chapter 251 of d.gray-man releases. spoilers for up to chapter 250 below!!
disclaimer: I don't hate wisely. I really like him. but I don't trust him right now.
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I don't trust his actions right now. before chapter 250, I was sure wisely was going to be the new "leader" of the noah now that the earl is somewhat out of commission, either outright or by pulling the strings/giving suggestions to other members. road wasn't really the leader of them but they looked to her for answers about the things they didn't because she was the one that had stuck around the longest (such as when tyki's scars are aching) and was clearly the closest to the earl.
wisely is already suspicious of nea before this...
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and when he approached the earl, wisely made a few comments about it, urging the earl to leave.
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but he has an extra thought in chapter 224 about how he specifically won't let him cross paths with nea ever again. not really sus, I mean nea did kill the noah and try to kill the earl and the earl is clearly Not Over It, so makes sense.
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but as they leave, wisely and tyki have a very specific exchange.
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not only did wisely apparently let bookman go before they could find out more info, but wisely seems to know full well about nea- possibly being the reason he let bookman go, before bookman could tell the others who the earl and nea actually are.
specifically, wisely says "even if you don't find it out from me, you'll find it out eventually" and thinks to himself how this information will hurt tyki. that, to me, sounds like he knows most of the secrets of mana/nea. otherwise, how would he know that it will be so damning to tyki?
that brings us back to chapter 250, where they're interrogating apocryphos. I suspect the main goal of this was to find the heart rather than information on nea.
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however, apocryphos can't help but jab at the ignorant noah who are in way over their heads, letting it slip that tyki has some deep connection to nea. wisely of course responds naturally by—
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—destroying apocryphos' head, preventing him from talking until he heals. he claims it's because there's no use in interrogating him any further, that they've already got as much info as they can. that marks the 2nd interrogation victim he's let loose before the rest are ready.
with nea and the mention of 35 years ago being brought up, there's still tension in the air and sherril isn't about to let it go. remember, he's still pissed about road being hurt so badly trying to protect allen (because she wouldn't protect nea, right?)
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and here it's finally brought up that, despite road being the only true survivor (aside from the earl), wisely has more knowledge about the events due to his demonic eye. he's finally being called out for possibly withholding the truth from them.
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and what does he do? deflect it immediately. "it's not my fault, it's the fault of the previous wisely!"
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okay, let's really dissect this page.
he starts off with apologizing, saying that the reason the other noah can't remember the tragedy is because the knowledge was so devastating the previous wisely locked it away (I guess before he died?? how does that work).
specifically, "to know nea is to know 'mana'". wisely knows who mana is, whereas the other noah only know that nea called the earl mana which made him cry.
the part I think most important is this- how conflicted he looks when thinking about the earl. he's not thinking about the noah here, he's thinking about the earl's safety. about mana.
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why is he so conflicted?
let's go over some more stuff real quick.
wisely knows tyki looks suspiciously just like nea
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2. nea isn't just a noah, he's the earl
3. SOMETHING happened to adam to make him disappear/split into mana/nea and is most likely connected to the noah & innocence
with all of these things in mind, this leads me to believe this...
wisely is keeping the info about mana secret to get the earl to destroy the world
not really a big shocker, but let me explain. the goal of the noah is to see the end of the world and aid the earl in that, but we've learned that the earl acts somewhat as a ticking time bomb, as he is the one that brings about the end days.
that is the goal of all of the noah, but road has been apprehensive about it because the current earl is mana. she wants him to be safe, and when cross urged her to help him save mana, instead of scoffing at the idea she starts crying and saying she can't because she's a noah. she wants to save him but being a noah cancels that out.
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but our wisely didn't grow up with mana & nea. wisely didn't witness nea kill their entire family, mana kill him in return, and quickly descend into madness. wisely has secondhand memories so he doesn't have that emotional attachment.
this is why I felt wisely would be the new "leader". he has the insight to know that the earl = mana and that nea is part of the earl but doesn't have the emotional baggage road has. this gives him the best opportunity to see the noah's goal to the end, to push the earl over the edge and make him destroy it.
how would the rest of the noah feel if they found out the earl they've known their entire life isn't 7000 years old? that he was raised as a human just 50~ years ago? that the earl can die?
and worse-
how would the noah feel if they found out a personality of the earl was the one what slaughtered them all?
it would absolutely fracture them, possibly worse so than the exorcists finding out about apocryphos. the man they trust as their leader, who they feel in their souls a deep connection to, isn't even actually him and the man that killed them was supposed to be their leader.
that's why I feel like wisely is still keeping secrets. if he does actually know who mana/nea are, then it doesn't make sense for him to reveal this info so easily. I don't know what he's going to do next as the scene cuts there with him supposedly revealing the secrets, but I have a fear he's either only revealed a small part of it or worse, created a new lie about mana/nea to show them.
maybe he's telling the truth??
there's always a chance I'm grasping at straws, but from what I've seen it just doesn't make sense to me for him to reveal "everything" about mana/nea to the other noah, ESPECIALLY TYKI, so quickly. sherril snaps at him and he immediately folds. we've seen such careful character motivations thusfar from everyone else and I doubt hoshino would stumble here, on such a pivotal plot point.
so yeah, I don't believe wisely when he says he's going to reveal everything. he has the best shot out of all the noah to bring about the apocalypse and it doesn't make sense for him to fumble that now.
thanks for being a lil shit wisely, love you
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conalola · 11 months
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✨DGM✨
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fruitsjellies · 5 months
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venusaria · 3 months
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⚠️ spoiler ⚠️
YALL IM CURRENTLY DOING AN OVERNIGHT SHIFT RN BUT I JUST SAW THE PREVIEW PAGES AND IM LOSING MY SHIT SO HARD OMFGGGGG
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FUCKING SHERIL, JASDEVI, FEEDLER (and mashima?) ARE BACK LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO
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chaoticace2005 · 1 year
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looniecartooni · 3 months
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Tyki: Alright... who's ready to interrogate Apocrypos? Feedler: Dunno. Devit: Not me! Jasdero: Me neither- hee! Wisely: Don't worry- I'll help you guys hold him dow- where's his shirt? Mercym: *looking down at his rather revealing uniform* Um... I think he wanted to fit in with the party. Tyki: Yeah- and he's just creepy as far as I can tell. Everyone: Fair. Sheril: Forget that! Let's just get this whole 14th debacle under control so we can find out what happened between him and Road- Tyki: And everyone else. Sheril: Yes... and everyone else. Wisely:... Sheril: I swear- this whole thing has been making my Noah memory go out of control. I swear- if I see or hear one more upsetting thing I'll- *pauses and takes a good look at Tyki* Tyki:... Sheril:... no. Tyki: What? Sheril: No... Tyki: What? What's wrong?! Is it Apocrypos?! Sheril: No... what've you done? Tyki: Eh? What do you mean "what've I done?" I didn't do anything. Wisely: Oh no... Tyki: What?! Wisely: How could I not notice this before? Feedler: No... No- it can't be! Sheril: Oh- just when I thought things couldn't get any worse! Devit: What're you guys talking about? Jasdero: I have no- oh no no no- we lost another one! Tyki: What're you all talking about?! What's going on?! Sheril, Feedler, Wisely, and Jasdero: You cut your hair!!!! Tyki: Oh.😑 Mercym: Oh shoot- I didn't even notice. Good for you. Devit: About dang time! You were starting to look like someone's mom. Jasdero: NOOOOOO- he looked so good with the long hair! Feedler: I even taught you a trick with your long hair-buu. Now we can't be long-hair buddies! Sheril: Oh no- what will Road think? Poor Road loved your long hair. Wisely: It was so beautiful and lush! Why would you do such a horrendous thing? Tyki: You guys are overdramatic. It was getting annoying. Someone had to keep washing it, y'know? Sheril, Feedler, Wisely, and Jasdero: *crying and hugging each other while mumbling phrases like "Tyki's beautiful hair" "My poor Road" "Why?" "We need to hold a funeral for it"* Tyki: Oh my gosh... Mercym: *sips tea* Maybe should have waited until after. Tyki: *sigh* I suppose so. Devit: In other news, Apocrypos is escaping. Everyone: *reverts back to being on guard* *Except Mercym who just sips his tea again* Devit: Also- his pants are gone. Tyki: *covering Wisely's eyes much to Wisely's confusion* Oh my g- why?!
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hopefullament · 4 months
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THIS SMELLS LIKE FUCKING TRAGEDY
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thefinalsnart · 4 months
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WAH SNART CONGRATS ON THE MILESTONE !!!! 🥹🧡🧡🧡🥰🥰🥰🥰 u totally deserve it and thousands of millions more 🧡✨ for a little blorbo...... how about one of my secret weaknesses.... wisely? 👀🧡 hes such a precious (wise) fool, it sometimes makes me a bit unwell........ 😵‍💫🧡 - @alienaiver 🥰✨
WAAAH THANK U NOHR @alienaiver 💕
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A little Wisely for you 💖 I like him a lot too, he’s maybe my favourite Noah!
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poupeesdecirque · 4 months
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This year I was somehow blessed with plenty of christmas themed ideas and they all wanted to be drawn, all at once.
First my idea was just one for Allen because of his birthday. Then i thought something to honor my little fic 'Silent night' from last year and then ... Noah shenanigans while making a gingerbread hous.... tent.
The last one was the most fun of them all.
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nieniekoto · 1 year
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tyki/wisely chibi commission for @plaidsleep !🫖
commission form closing soon!☀︎
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patitodesu · 2 years
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marapuama · 1 year
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dgm asmr ideas
Cross runs away and gives you all of his debt
Link bakes you pumpkin pie
You do 100 one-handed chair pushups with Allen
Kanda tells you to shut up and ignores you for 20 min
Tyki puts his hand inside your chest cavity
Tiedoll helps you paint a forest
Allen scams you out of your life's savings
Road stabs your eye with a candle
Renny Epstain revives you against your will
Lenalee goes shoe shopping with you
Mana mistakes you for his pet dog
Wisely violates your privacy
The Millennium Earl comforts you after a loved one's death
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daily-kanda-yuu · 2 years
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✦ ⎯  Komui’s Discussion Room (Vol. 6)
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allen-san · 6 months
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chaoticace2005 · 11 months
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DGM: Noah Competency Analysis
It is 2 am and I have work at 6:30 am and am making the amazing decision to stay up and analyze these bastards because my friend got me into this series and now it has taken over my life (thanks Koala.)
For the Noah, many seem to be pretty bad at their jobs: from the "kill the generals" arc where everyone failed to whatever the hell was up with the ark arc to Wisely/Tyki LOSING the Earl. So, being the autistic individual I am who recently took a stats class, I decided to analyze all the Noah in some kind of mathematical way to look at just how incompetent these losers are.
Note: statistical analysis is not completely representative of the Noah since it is only looking at information revealed in the manga/assumed as of June 2023- it is entirely possible that this information will change.
But now to it... (spoilers)
First, I wanted to establish some kind of system to accurately grade the Noah based on their accomplishments. Originally I was putting down all their activities and noting if they failed/succeeded- giving +1 points to successes and 0 for failures and then averaging it out based on total # of activities, but this led to the problem where some Noah were shown more than other so there was more data (like Mercyma or Tryde) and as a result their competency was put very high despite the fact we have little information on them, so this idea was scrapped.
Ultimately, I made it so each Noah started out with a 5/10 ranking, and then points were added and lost depending on their successes/failures and to what degree they were.
The "successes/failures" only looks at specific missions assigned to the Noah by the Earl- so for instance Tyki going around and killing extra exorcists like Daisya and Suman were not counted, as he was specifically ordered to kill Allen at the time and did this as an "extracurricular." Points were also deducted if the Noah did something that went against the Earl/hurt the Noah (more on this later.)
Points Awarded:
+0.5= Succeed at easy mission
+1.0= Succeed at mission
+1.5= Succeed at hard mission
-0.5= Fail at hard mission/ not a total loss
-1.0= Fail at mission
-1.5= Fail at easy mission/ make things worse
With this established onto the grading!
2nd Apostle: Tryde/Toraido (Judge)
-1.5: Stop traitors of Noah- failed with Nea (they all pretty much died as result)
+0.5: Be in Russia with Jasdevi for Alma Arc- succeed (kinda just stood there)
Total Competence: 4/10 (very limited amount of data but fairly okay, maybe don't trust with your life but can trust to not set house on fire)
3rd Apostle: Tyki Mikk (Pleasure)
+1.0: Kill Yeegar- succeed
-1.5: Kill Allen/Innocence- failed both and actually increased Allen’s power
-1.0: Kill exorcists in Edo- failed
-0.5: Kill Cross- mission given by Earl but never really attempted (Joyd did when awoken but failed)
+0.5: Bring Allen to North America branch- succeed
+1.0: Rescue Allen from Apocryphos- succeed
-0.5: Kill Apocryphos- failed
-1.0: Recruit Allen- failed
-1.0: Protect Road- failed
-1.5: Babysit Earl- failed 
Extra: Responsible for Ark Arc, resulting in death of fellow Noah Skinn, permanent injury to Jasdevi along with himself, and Allen/the Order gaining access to the Ark (which later led to Egg being destroyed): -4.0
Total Competence: -3.5/10 (do NOT give this guy anything to do, if you asked him for milk he’d leave, kill someone in a Chuck E Cheese, and bring the dead body home (WITHOUT THE MILK))
4th Apostle: Sheril/Cheryl (Desires)
+1.5: Cause wars- succeed
+1.0: Take control of North America branch- succeed
+0.5: Help capture Apocryphos- succeed (didn’t appear to do much)
Extra: Did go behind Earl’s back to capture Bookman/Lavi and torture for information about Nea: -1.0
Total Competence: 7/10 (can trust to this guy to do most things, but if it threatens his or Road's life all bets are off)
5th Apostle: Wisely/Waizuri (Wisdom)
+1.0: Unite Alma and Kanda to awaken 14th- succeed
-1.5: Babysit Earl- failed
Extra: With Bookman/Lavi, tried to read minds but failed? So he was incompetent but in a way that supported the Earl: -0.5 
Total Competence: 4/10 (if you leave a plant with him the plant will likely die)
Note: Alma Arc may have been a fluke but he seems to have lost competence after this- maybe Allen bonking Kanda in the head and giving Wisely a migraine had lasting effects? Maybe Sheryl had a point here:
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6th Apostle: Feedler/Fiedla/Fiidora (Corrosion)
+1.5: Fights exorcists in China/infects exorcist- succeed, now have spy in order
-1.5: Babysit Earl- failed
+1.0: Act as communication for Noah- succeed, ranked as “1.0” since it is his ability specific
Extra: Did help Cheryl torture Bookman/Lavi, going against Earl: -0.5
Total Competence: 5.5/10 (can trust to not burn house down when cooking dinner, although food may be meh)
7th Apostle: Mercym/Maushyma (Pity)
+1.0: Occupy Madaroa- succeed
+0.5: Capture Apocryphos- succeed (didn’t appear to do much)
Total Competence: 6.5/10 (can be trusted to babysit kids)
8th Apostle: Skinn (Wrath) (Note: PRETTY DEAD)
-1.0: Kill Tiedoll- failed
-1.5: Kill Tiedoll unit- failed, dying as a result
Total Competence: 2.5/10 (very likely to get into a car accident due to road rage if allowed to borrow a car)
9th Apostle: Road (Dreams)
+0.5: Acquire Skinn when he was woken- succeed
-1.0: Retrieve Miranda Innocence- failed
+1.0: Kill Yeegar- succeed
+1.5: Copy Ark- succeed
+1.0: Help with Alma Karma arc- succeed
+1.5: Rescue Allen- succeed, went beyond to protect him
-0.5: Kill Apocryphos- failed
-0.5: Recruit Allen- failed (gets a bit of slack cause she was kinda fading away)
Extra: Responsible for Ark Arc, resulting in death of fellow Noah Skinn, permanent injury to Jasdevi/Tyki , and Allen/the Order gaining access to the Ark (which later led to Egg being destroyed): -4.0
HOWEVER she wasn’t killed by Nea so +3.0 points.
Total Competence: 7.5/10 (likely to complete a group project, but it was likely done by her forcing someone else to do it by candle-point- work smarter not harder)
10th/11th Apostles: Jasdevi (Bonds)
-1.5: Kill Cross- failed badly, acquiring debt in process
+0.5: Be in Russia with Tryde for Alma Arc- succeed
+1.5: Capture Apocryphos- succeed
Total Competence: 5.5/10 (surprisingly high) (if left to bake a cake the kitchen may be a disaster and the sink may be on fire but there will be a surprisingly okay cake) (about 2.75/10 each)
Note: Competence seems to have increased following encounter with Krory, did a reverse Wisely and actually got MORE competent over time.
12th Apostle: Lulu Bell (Lust)
-1.0: Retrieve egg- failed (egg destroyed but Order able to use some of egg to make Thirds)
+0.5: Be in Greece for Alma Arc- succeed
Total Competence: 4.5/10 (considered competent due to loyalty but fairly lazy, if told to do the dishes she would find someone else to do it for her and that person would do a subpar job)
13th Apostle: Mightra/Maitora (Ability)
+0.5: Make cool outfits- succeed
+1.0: Make skulls- succeed
+1.5: Do other magic related stuff with Ark/Akuma- succeed
Total Competence: 8/10 (can be trusted to house sit for a week without issue)
Also, just for fun:
The Fourteenth/Nea D. Campbell
+1.5: Kill Noah- mostly succeeded and damaged memories so kudos to him
+1.5: Restrict Ark- succeeded
-0.5: Kill Earl- failed
+1.0: Reincarnate- succeed
-1.5: Kill Johnny- failed
-1.0: Trick Kanda- failed
-1.0: Trick Link- failed
-0.5: Kill Earl (Part 2 Electric Boogaloo)- failed
+0.5: Reveal past to Earl- sorta? He certainly monologued but who knows if the Earl was all there
-1.0: Take over Allen completely- failed
Total Competence: 4/10
So... all in all (excluding Nea from calculations):
Mightra: 8/10
Road: 7.5/10
Cheryl: 7/10
Mercym: 6.5/10
Feedler: 5.5/10
Jasdevi: 5.5/10
Lulu Bell: 4.5/10
Tryde: 4/10
Wisely: 4/10
Skinn: 2.5/10
Tyki: -3.5/10
With the average competency of the Noah being around 4.68/10 and the median being 5.5/10.
I would also like to take the time to point out just how incompetent Tyki is compared to his fellow Noah:
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Tyki is literally graphed as a fucking outlier and even without the 4.0 points he lost because of the Arc Ark, he would still be at a 0.5/10, still the lowest of all the Noah. In fact, if we were to take this data and assume that the Noah are a representative sample for all of humanity, he would have be in the bottom 0.6% for competency (using Z-score to determine this.)
Without Tyki, the Noah's competency would be up to 5.5/10, which I feel like is great evidence of the fact that Tyki is so goddamn stupid and his real Noah ability is the power to lower the intelligence/competence of everyone around him. Why did Wisely lose competence after Alma arc? Because he had to be around Tyki all the time. Why did Jasdevi gain competence? Because they started being babysat by Mercym and Tryde instead of Tyki. They purposely left Tyki to watch over the Earl because they thought there was no way he could mess up watching over their delusional grandfather while the twins/Mercym/Sheryl caught Apocryphos and he still did. Honestly maybe if the Noah want the Order to lose they should just sneak Tyki into the organization and let him just lower the competence of everyone there so the organization eventually collapses in on itself and combusts.
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looniecartooni · 3 months
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Something tells me there's a building burning somewhere. Also- how did these three get a car? Do either of them even know what a car is?
Bonus:
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Wisely has failed to mediate the tension between the two arson-prone birds(?) currently controlling this mysterious parked vehicle.
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