#Well Flowey Might

[chaos-le-mieux]

Error Chara Answers: 017

Error Flowey is a bit of mystery, but I'm sure that picture will give you some hints. Alternative Ink Characters are trickier to deal with, since there's not to much information on them, or, more accurately, if there is, it's not as well shared as the main Ink Sans. And even then, things can get confusing. Ink Sans will eventually show up (spoilers), but that's for much later on. As for the strings, according to one of the asks in the original ask Error Sans series, Errors Sans's Magic is pretty the same as regular Sans, and the strings are just an extension of his Magic. Error Chara can summon knives, create portals, and make strings like a Monster would, though, considering their base is human, there could be something else going on. Though, other humans in the multiverse also use Magic, so... I got room to play with on the nitty gritty of how that works. I mean, I could take the easy route and say it's Magic, or... I can create something overly complicated because, well, why wouldn't I? lol Enjoy~ Undertale © Toby Fox

#Error #Chara #Flowey #Error!Chara #Error!Flowey #Error!Tale #Asks #Feel Free to ask these Dorks Questions #They don't bite #Well Flowey Might #I need to work less and sleep more

[sysig]

Those wacky skeletons ♥ (Patreon)

#Doodles #UT #Sans #Papyrus #Handplates #You can tell because of Sans' gloves lol #Getting-used-to-them-again doodles as well as just expressing Feeling <3 Happy towards them! Want them to be happy too! #It might seem silly for these - how many sets in now? - to still be getting used to drawing them again lol but it's because they're adults! #Their clothes and the way they hold themselves - but also especially Sans lol I dunno why I have such difficulty with him at times #He's got a cute face and I still find myself like ????how your face #Other than that tho it's just silliness hehe ♪ My favourite lads :D #I feel the need to make the distinction: I do actually have different favourites based on the AU lol #Like for example in classic I still love Flowey just a tiiiiiny bit more than Papyrus but it really is constantly neck and neck #Whereas in Handplates it's no competition even a little bit lol - Papyrus is just my Very Favourite #But Gaster is my favourite Handplates-specific character since he's unique to the AU! It gets a bit in the weeds lol #Sans isn't far behind at all of course the trio are very important! The duo even moreso imo #Going back to gloves tho I did carry over one of my quirks from my original UT doodles about Papyrus' gloves lol #I initially envisioned them as combination mitten-gloves with a free index finger and all the rest together #I still rather like the design! But it is admittedly not Handplates accurate lol #The occasional dip into self-indulgence who me? Lol #Sleeping on each other is important to me as well!! It is such a favourite hehe #Honestly I just imagined Papyrus getting so exhausted that he fell asleep in the snow lol poor lad #Sans teleported in but it's also funny to imagine him just walking up like ''you good? yeah he's fine'' *flop* haha #Silly lads <3 Do love 'em ♪

[random-autie-fangirl]

Which is Flowey Dreemurr more like...

#asriel dreemurr #Flowey #undertale #I debated putting the thorn there too (like specifically post pacifist) #But that's waaay more of a thematic/aesthetic link than a personality one #a thought is a vine. And some thoughts nurture thistles that bleed the soul. When he succumbed to himself... #let's also have some propaganda for the ones actually on the poll #Sharp and single minded. He is cruelty. But he is also joy. #(well he seems joyful at least...) #slay the princess #polls #hey look! I did a thing #he desires companionship but the only thing he knows how to do is hurt #Hope marred by bitterness. He could see the end of the tunnel but the door was closed on him. #The voices don't have in game dissertations of their character in the same way #might add propaganda for them later #Also...if Azzy's the princess then who's the long quiet? Frisk. Frisk is. Chara's the echo/narrator for obvious reasons. #the flower prince #little prince

[spiderdotexe]

two nonsensical undertale / deltarune dreams i had the past 2 days. i drew the bits i do remember. the dreams were probably really cool but i barely remember anything

#my art #ms paint #deltarune #undertale #frisk undertale #asriel dreemurr #chara dreemurr #flowey the flower #woshua #might as well tag them #kind of weird dreams tbh i wish i remembered more of it because i remember thinking wow papyrus circus looks REALLY awesome #but then i woke up and didnt remember what he looked like at all. horrible fate really #think he had a really tall hat though thats what my brain is telling me #utdr

[theoldworldsrunnerup]

“None of the characters in Undertale are entirely good or bad and they all have their strengths and flaws” I say into the mic.

The crowd boos. I began to walk off in shame, when a voice speaks and commands silence from the room.

“They’re right” they say. I look for the owner of the voice. There, in the 5th row stands: Toby Fox

#this includes: chara frisk flowey papyrus toriel and asgore #well it includes all ut characters but i feel the need to specify that it includes these specific characters #because SOME OF YOU don’t seem to understand this #all of them are incredibly interesting and complex characters #and some of them might be “better” or “worse” than each other #but that doesn’t mean that they are 100% good or bad #or at least that’s what i’ve gotten from like. over four years of being way too interested in this game #anyways thanks for coming to my ted talk #undertale #i say into the mic #copypasta #undertale fandom #shitpost #chara #frisk #flowey #asriel #toriel #papyrus #asgore #sans #undyne #alphys #WAIT YES EMPHASIS ON ALPHYS #HER TOO #toby fox #utdr #caps in tags #cw numbers

[chaoartwork]

Look at alllllll my undertale junk from nearly a decade ago……

#well #not all of them #I KNOW I have more #I just don’t know where they are right now #although I would totally love to see if I find the comic I made about frisk sparing flowey #probably doesn’t look like a masterpiece #but still nice to look at #maybe make a redraw of it? #who knows #undertale #I was a little bit of a San fans cause everyone loved sans and made cool contents related to him #but I deep down always had a heart for flowey the flower #he’s damn easy to draw #have the freedom to draw his face however you like #and he’s psychotic and tragic as hell #which is strangely my type #not to mention he’s so damn fun to voice dub #voicing a killer flower is fun #damnwhatswrongwithme #flowey the flower #gaster #papyrus #I’m getting back into undertale a bit so I might draw more #especially since my skill is better than last time I drew the series

[1tsjusty0u]

man. flowey is still alive (or asriel) people think he died and a part of him did die but hes still alive. hes still alive and he had to live with the 1 (one) person he remembered being Actually Fun and understanding him is (mostly. narachara theory lives on + theyre there. To Me.) dead and everyone else is just a character in a game of which will run out of dialogue to say and hes trapped underground with the same people and same places in a neverending world where he can reset and reset but nothing will change he will still be haunted by an emptiness he literally cannot leave and Has to live with it and in the end. its alright. like hes presumably happy with papyrus in the undertale alarm clock dialogue. he has a ways to go but everythings a little better and maybe he can too.

also the fact he thought chara came back to life Literally in the genocide run is so fucked up you dont understand. he sees frisks body as charas, like he literally comments on mistaking frisk for chara (now mistaking Us for chara), and he asks how they got there, until he realizes toriel must have brought them for a proper burial. but he still asks why they came back and if they heard him calling to them do uou Know about that??????????????????????????? thats so fuckignt. ofuejwowgekedjbrleoegroejehr

also theres a video about flowey being loveless and i like it a lot. aro + personal struggles yknow. people can be happy and not love

anyways sorry. this is why im not for reviving asriel/just a flowey post the. previous post got me thinking

#GENUINELY THINKING ABOUT UNDERTALE MAKES ME SO MUCH MORE INSANE THAN BOTW EVER WILL ITS VERY FUNNY #i think its just on a whole well. 1 i once was unfortunately hyperfixated on that and it passed 2 deltarune is taking over and the friendsh #ip analysises from that (of which i need to save) #and 3 undertale is a short game. its the length of deltarune chapters 1 and 2 and if you A know what to expect it might not hit as hard (ex #cept for undertale the song) and B i think it has a bit of trouble building things up because of its shortness. i think. i need to watch so #meone play it for the first time to see how accurate that is #anyways sorry flowey dialogue makes me lose it constabtly. hes barley there except for in genocide and some neutral runs and yet

[your-local-uwu-artist]

found this doodle of my undertale au characters and might redraw it/color it/finish it najdhandi 

I might make an ask blog or at least a few comics and a reference sheet, the au name is ashtale, I call the papyrus Ash and the flowey Petals, it has a fairly plain plot but I guess the best way I'd describe it is like a cross between dusttale and playbacktale

#ash n petals #Utmv #Papyrus #flowey #undertale #kyukyudraws #Speaking of au characters might as well let y'all know if you ever send me pics of like Gothic lolita style clothing I will be drawing eithe #r vampire!luigi or Charlotte in them and very little can stop me from doing such #tbh yall can send me draw x character in this outfit kinda asks anytime and there's at least a 60% chance I will #tryna post art more ofteennn #i have a lot of original character works if yalld enjoy those too~ #Also I will happily infodump about my aus and also you are welcome to infodump about yours in my inbox #nakidnskfubs

[laitoslittlemacaron]

Dream of mine came true when i finally got hold of Laito's original perfume today ಥ⌣ಥ o(╥﹏╥)o❀ i cant really tell what it smells like, but its a bit sweet and i really like it💚 its not too overwhelming and idk how to explain, but its one of those perfume scents that make you feel comfortable? Its kind of how i imagined it to be like xD💚

#feat the flowey perfume🌸💚 #which also smells absolutley great btwOwO #might as well get Farfalla Lucio ovo💚 so far they never let me down c': #im a bit sad that this one didnt came with the package but oh well #diabolik lovers #diahell #dialovers #laito sakamaki #sakamaki laito #merch #diabolik lovers perfume #laito appreciation

[chaos-le-mieux]

Error Chara: Horrorible Greetings

How does Error Flowey know so much about people in the void?.. mysterious. Looks like Horror Sans is as friendly as ever ^ -^ He even tried to make a new Friend. Thankfully Error Chara has a "healing factor". Though their blood does delete code, so be careful :3 Killer Sans's getting straight to business, I wonder how Horror Sans feels about this... As you can probably guess, next Chapter will be more action focused, should be interesting. Have Fun~

Undertale © Toby Fox Killer!Sans © @rahafwabas Horror!Sans © @sour-apple-studios

#Error Chara #Killer Sans #Horror Sans #Error Flowey #Well this is a Horrorible situation #These CHARActers might have some KILLER moves #Undertale #The Void #I'm tired and out of puns

[sysig]

Two big softies(?) (Patreon)

#Doodles #Handplates #UT #Fellplates #Gaster #Flowey #Flowey is still my favourite UT character so honestly a lot of this was just self-indulgent doodles lol #But then - as always - it did turn into Thinking A Lot about [thing] lol #Starting with the classic tho! Flowey friendly-like coiled around whoever he's talking to ♪ It's too fun hehe #I love Flowey getting just a liiiiittle too close and personal to a discomfort degree ♫ He's just being friendly! It's a hug! A snuggle! #He's your best friend so you don't mind right? :) Why would Fellplates!Gaster mind ♪ #He's always posed to stage right when I draw him haha - I'm still fond of the one Gravity Falls/Undertale crossover piece I made with him #Anyhow lol - yet more fluffy wings! It's just fun if they're expressive I want real feathers lol #Gaster's face completely neutral but his wings all puffed up and freaked out hehe #Flowey would definitely be able to tell if those are when he chose to wrap around! #If they were just the decorative version he'd fall right off from his own weight pulling them loose lol #Absolutely thinking of the one of Gaster screaming while being vine-wrapped by Flowey haha - he's totally innocent here! ♥ #And then a little idea of how each of them react to humans - UkaGaster talks a lot about his general positive feelings for humans #And Fell!Flowey is.....well I have my own thoughts about how he might react to humans now that he's been...himself for a while #There have been Fallen Humans in the time between being locked in the Underground and [now] even in Underfell hasn't there? #I guess none of them would've made it as far as meeting up with Gaster - bit of a dark thought heh - but Flowey would know #Is it selfish? To wish for humans or to keep them a secret from the rest of the Underground? What might happen? #It's interesting to think about! If there were humans then surely Gaster must be aware of the Souls? #But even if not - even if this could be before all that - Flowey would still know about human Determination to an extent - being what he is #It wouldn't turn out well for anyone :) That's what makes it interesting ♪

[lion-buddy]

prim arc continued under the cut <3

#hi. this got out of my control very fast. #theres maybe like. 2 ppl who might get this. hehe <3 #precure #undertale #precure all stars f #asriel dreemurr #flowey #asriel #prim #puka #cure supreme #cure puka #long post #pc spoilers #crossover #its all just for me n e way. it started bc i thought big supreme and final form hyperdeath asriel looked similar and. well. #i didnt even end up drawing that lol #pc #ut

[sukifoof]

hii i was talking about this on twitter so i think i will just copy paste it here cuz i’ll probably delete it there at some point <3 twitter frightens me but i love my mutuals here we are all insane about flowey in the same way

 i think saying “you’re the type of friend i wish i always had” is a really important thing for asriel to admit... this whole time asriel has dealt with so much grief and guilt about chara that it separated the actual person chara from the idealized version of them in his head who he has never stopped grieving. its a huge part of his character that hes unable to view them as they were because that’s just how his ptsd and guilt affects him. as someone who went through a similar thing that kind of grief can mess with your head and how you view yourself and the person who’s gone really badly. the pacifist route, for flowey’s character specifically, is a really good example of how grief and ptsd can make you feel disconnected from yourself, everyone around you, and like if only the person you lost was back everything would be perfectly fine again. the fact that he can admit they weren’t perfect and that he made the right decision is a huge character development that we don’t get to see in the no mercy route because he’s still convinced that this idealized version of them birthed from bereavement will make everything okay. similarly to how he believed toriel might have been able to fix him, he wants to believe there’s someone out there that could somehow return him to who he was before being traumatized, but the reality of it is this is just who he is.

his grief and trauma is a huge part of who he is like it is with real people, but it doesn’t have to be all of him. i think the emphasis the fandom puts on whether chara was Good Or Bad completely misses the point that it doesn’t really. matter i guess?? they were a kid people loved and now they’re gone. we're seeing people deal with the grief this brought and we know so little of who they are because there’s also a degree of separation about who they are to the people they loved as well. idk i hope this makes sense i think a lot about how chara is a kid who hated humanity and calls themself a demon. to me that just shows an EXTREMELY traumatized child with self hatred. i don’t know why there was ever this huge moral argument about chara when they’re literally just a kid with issues. they weren’t taught how to deal with how they felt and likely held themself in lower regard compared to the dreemurrs. its the same thing with asriel, he feels responsible for them being gone and his own trauma. he just wants a friend who can teach him to understand his grief or someone who can at least let him view the situation for how it really is

i just think. flowey is so well written but not understood very well by the fandom because the type of thing he’s gone through is kind of hard to grasp. it’s a weird situation that doesn’t have a completely black or white Is He Or Chara At Fault kind of answer. they were children. people are complicated and want someone to blame when something goes wrong and flowey directed that at himself. hes such a fascinating and well written character i love him dearly i hope u guys understand how insane he makes me <3

#undertale #utdr #flowey #asriel #asriel dreemurr #chara dreemurr #chara #utdr analysis

[brewingcoffi]

UNDERTALE: YELLOW ‘REVIVED! CLOVER’ AU

PART 1

Explanation:

AS WE CAN TELL BY THE CUTSCENES, THAT DYING WITHOUT A SOUL ISNT IMMEDIATE. but slowly, it sorta drains away your energy, but seeing that Clover was literally hunched down during Floweys speech before having ENOUGH energy to drag themselves to position their last death place shows how REALLY strong Clover is. So, assuming that they DIDNT immediately passed away after they positioned themselves for prob a few last breath minutes really made me think.

What if Flowey decided to still keep Clover? They were ‘pals’ Yeah. Flowey decided to let them rest… BBBBBut, what if before Clover used their last breath. Floweys forced a TINY ounce of his determination into them. Making Clover a sort of a walking dying corpse.

Nevertheless, since it is shown that Clover has enough energy to drag themselves without their soul. In their now revived state, they can do simple movements by themselves. It’s just their legs can't balance anymore due to a lack of soul energy, so Flowey helps them with their balance and movements by being their support via using Vines as body strings.

Flowey and Them DO meet Frisk at some point,

Clover genuinely looks so tired which make sense because they literally got their energy sucked out after they lost their soul. Clover now has to drink ANY energy giving drinks or they barely functions for 2 hours (Forced to drink coffee.)

Character Info:

Clover & Flowey

Due to Clover's SOUL already being taken Encased in a capsule (Takes places during OG Undertale.)

Flowey mostly ‘Helps’ with their movements since without a soul, their control over their body are VERY WEAK. Revived! Clover can’t do Shit. Only thinks and blinks (But has enough energy to speak simple words.) of course, they can move their arms with any leftover weak energy. but it will never be enough to resists Flowey's control over their movement and actions.

I also wanted to add a detail that the vines will extend more rapidly and secure/support more, depending on what body part(s) Clover is going to use more effortly just incase of Clover was caught in a fight.

Qna questions that are answered for the lore of this AU:

Question 1. You think the lack of a soul might cause empathy/emotion issues like with flowey? Imagine flowey teaching clover to cope with it.

Answer:

“The answer is, Yeah! But, I have a feeling or a (hc of course) that it still has same affect upon losing your soul, slowly but surely. It would take Clover a few days or maybe one month in the underground to suddenly lose their concept of emotions, since like what happened after they lost their soul.

But Clover probably "tries' to hold onto their emotions to as long as possible, to make sure they don't ended up like flowey (I like to think that they slowly soon starts to act semi-like their genocide counterpart; ruthless and bold.)”

Question 2. Wondering how their friends would interact with how... "kind of alive" their body is. Or heck, how they and their friends would interact with the undertale cast.

Before the aftermath, how would Clover "kind-of live" in the underground? With all of the emotionlessness consuming their days, would they act like some kind of cryptid since they don't want their friends to see them as this... soulless shell.

Answer:

1.) I bet they would interact with Clover by treating them like a glass child (Which would start A LOT of conflicts, especially when the side effect of being soulless could affect their moral Justice as well.), and for the UT cast, it depends on your idea!

2.) Clover went into hiding and lived off caffeine and energy drinks(Or leftover food from their inventory.) But, Flowey being their pal would probably give them food if they don't, And Yeah! Clover became this ‘Cryptic entity’ that tends to lurk around where ‘Injustice or corruption’ happens. I like to see Clover, before the emotionlessness began; Was that Clover USED to be this ‘Peacekeeper’ vigilante. Relating to them acting like this ‘Cryptic’ due to them. Even in OG Undertale, I like to imagine that Clover appears for a short period of time and disappears from Frisk point of view(Like that Flowey Easter egg from the OG UT.)

Question 3. does clover tell flowey what limb or does flowey just know?

Answer:

Well, they used The first one, but until a few days or weeks, they’ve gotten used to it, so Flowey now just knows.

4. What exactly WAS flowey's plan for Clover

Answer:

The only logical and ‘in-character’ thought I had of Flowey’s plan; was that Flowey was going to use Clover against or perhaps use Clover as bait/trick the last human child, and help kill King Asgore. Which backfired.

And I also realized that Clover no longer has their Gun, so I wanted to give Clover a weapon to help ppl while also defending themselves. (Clover is used to range, so they probably suck-ass on melee weapons.)

#steampunkeryrisen arts #art #Uty #uty au #ut yellow #uty spoilers #uty clover #uty fanart #Undertale #Undertale au #Undertale yellow #undertale yellow art #clover #undertale yellow clover #undertale yellow au #Revived!Clover Au #Revived! Clover Au #flowey #flowey the flower #uty flowey #masterpost #Au #my au

[carlyraejepsans]

Rate UT characters on likely they are to eat spoiled food

premise: as monster food does not spoil, this speculation is based on how i think they'd treat human food in the post pacifist ending

frisk. trash burger. enough said. (also i hc that they grew up on the streets, so... not a lot of chances to be picky with your food.)

sans. second most likely. there's milk in the fridge bought specifically for him to drink out of the carton whenever frisk's or papyrus' friends come to visit, like a stereotypical disney channel older brother (he loves being annoying on purpose). it's been there for a month. he's still not done with it. it's probably rancid. enjoyer of food and lover of even shittier food. mr worst burger on the menu. he is ESPECIALLY gross about food and he is gross about it on purpose, he will peel an apple for papyrus and then take a bite out of it before cutting him a slice. and then call him a wuss when he acts disgusted. ("stop being a baby bones, we have the same germs anyway" "NO WE DON'T. *YOU* HAVE GERMS! AND I DON'T WANT ANY OF THEM!!" "why? they're pedigreed" "OUGH!?!!"). he mostly uses it as a chance to make a gag (or a lack of gagging, lol) but his strong stomach did also come in handy in the early days of papyrus' interest in cooking

mettaton, of sequins-and-glue hamburgers fame. he's technically tied for 2nd place with sans, but i put him in third because i feel like sans does it on purpose, for mettaton it's more like... a side effect of starting life off as a ghost. few people question it since he's a robot now.

alphys. she doesn't go out of her way to do it, but she buys her snacks in industrial pallet-fuls to reduce social interactions to a minimum, so by the time she reaches the last 3 or 4 packets of blue takis, they're well past their expiration date. not that it stops her. now, this wouldn't happen on the surface because she gets better and has a solid support system, but if monster food could spoil back when she was going Through it with the amalgamates, i feel like she'd either be too depressed or tired to care and eat it, or she'd tumble into a "g-god. you can't even take care of your own f-food. is there anything you can't fuck up" self-deprecation spiral and lose her appetite altogether

flowey. did it to see what would happen. nothing did. never did it again. tbh I just don't think he eats much of anything, spoiled or not.

undyne. getting into the "wouldn't eat spoiled food" tier. she actually thinks it's really gross but papyrus tricks her into doing it by challenging her machismo. she gets SO sick from it. they do this aprox 3 times a month. rinse and repeat

asgore. he's a gardener, and i can see him working in a community garden on the surface, so he'd have access to a lot of fresh produce, for both himself and to give away. however, if some of it were to go bad, he'd probably cut off the affected bit and eat the rest so it doesn't go to waste.

toriel. she is SUPER careful about expiration dates and mold and checks to make sure all she owns is still safe to eat almost weekly. this level of care, however, is mostly meant for other people, not herself, but she would really rather not eat anything that's gone bad. same reasoning as alphys', IF monster food could spoil when she was still in the RUINs, i could technically see her biting the bullet, if only because 1) she was also heavily depressed and struggling to take care of herself, though i think she might sooner skip out on the meal altogether, rather than eat something spoiled, and 2) the awkward stares from the other monsters in the RUINs supermarket might not be something she's willing to deal with on any given day.

papyrus. he would NOT. no way. master of cleaning, germophobe extraordinaire papyrus (well, not really, but he plays the part). if toriel is meticulous, papyrus is obsessive. there better not be a SINGLE spot on his food. and no lines or plaid patterns either!! he WILL wash it untill it goes away. with soap probably. canonically a picky eater to begin with (his picks are just weird as balls). can should and WILL get on sans' ass about his unhealthy eating habits, and that includes eating food that's gone bad.

#answered asks #undertale #sans #papyrus #toriel #frisk #alphys #undyne #asgore #mettaton #hey look the whole gang is here!

[inbarfink]

So when I wrote down that Big Undertale Meta Post about how Sans probably doesn’t remember RESETs at all and why that’s cool - I got a lot of responses to the tune of ‘that’s probably canon but I’m still gonna enjoy Sans Remember fics because of the angst’. And, well... first I want to emphasize that those are very good and correct responses! Like ‘I acknowledge might or might not be in the text but I am also gonna explore alternative ideas Because I Enjoy Them’ is a Good Damn Position to have! Transformative Fandom is Transformative on purpose! Engage with the text and it’s various analyses but don’t let it chain your creativity or fun!

It’s just that… all of the people saying that they prefer Sans Remembering ‘for the Angst’ make me think that maybe folks are kinda ignoring the incredible angst potential of Sans NOT remembering.

My original post focused on how cool it is that Sans manages to be so on-top-of-things even though he doesn’t remember anything - but let’s not ignore the fact that this situation is also grim as shit.

Through some mysterious super-science or whatever, Sans has managed to discover that his timeline is being RESET and altered constantly (before the Player came along, Flowey had already managed to basically 100% the entire Underground) and he has no memory of what's going on and what exactly is being altered. 

He knows he might’ve gone through the same day over and over and over again thousand times but he’s simply not aware of it. It’s all the helplessness and lack of forward momentum of a classic timeloop and none of the benefits of memorizing occurrences or acquiring extra information. That’s exactly the thing that drove him into his depressive spiral.

That line always strikes me. It’s like… Sans suspects that without the meddling of capricious immortal time gods, he’d be a much happier and motivated person. But he doesn’t know for sure, because he can’t remember how he was in some distant ‘original timeline’. He is essentially fighting to avenge a version of himself that might not even be real.

Like, yes, it is very impressive and badass how well Sans trained himself to notice every tiny little hint that might indicate that a RESET happened - but it’s impressive because the deck is stacked so heavily against him. And it is very impressive and badass how Sans managed to turn his weaknesses into strengths during his Boss Battle - but it’s impressive because these are usually huge weaknesses. Trying to work to solve a timeloop that you can only infer is going on through context clues is quite a hopeless and desperate mission!

Another bit in the Sans fight that I often think about is his unique reaction if you kill him and then RESET to Fight him again.

With how skilled he is at reading expressions, Sans probably knows what that ‘weird expression’ means, he knows the Player killed him once before and is here to try again. And yet he still goes along with the same attack plan he has, the one he knows killed him in that previous timeline. Why? Because he doesn’t know where the flaw in his plan was exactly, he can’t even begin to guess. So he has no choice but to go along with the plan he knows did kill him, because that’s the only thing he has. 

You know, the thing about Sans, is that he always plays his cards very close to his chest. It’s very hard to tell what exactly he’s thinking. That’s probably why so many people do believe he remembers RESET. If any non-Flowey character remembered RESETs, only Sans would be remotely able to hide it so well. But for me? It makes me wonder how much of his Troll who Knows Too Much persona is a bit of an act as well. 

You know, Sans’ deduction requires some keen observational skills - does he ever second-guess his conclusions? Living on constant high-alert that something has been reversed or that someone knows something they shouldn’t requires fostering a lot of paranoia, and that can’t be healthy for him. Is he ever overcome with doubt on whatever something was really an indication of a timeline RESET or not? How does he feel when he realizes something horrible happened on a previous timeline (for example, his brother dying) but he doesn’t know about the context to feel sure that he can stop it from happening again? 

I also think about it in terms of his relationship to Papyrus in general. Sans tends to hide so many things from Papyrus, especially in timelines where the Player is particularly kill-happy...

In part it’s about his perception that Papyrus’ kindness and pacifism is born from naïveté and thus the only way to preserve it is to hide the cruelty and harshness of the world from him (Undyne also does that). But also, with the paranoia and helplessness Sans lives in every day - is it any wonder that he might believe that ignorance is bliss?

I do truly think it’s beautiful how fandom can experiment with cool non-canon ideas! There are probably so many great emotional angsty ideas tied up to Sans remembering RESETs! I just feel it’ll be a shame if people ignore just how dire and depressing Sans’ canon situation also is!

#undertale #ut #utdr #sans #sans undertale #sans ut #undertale analysis