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#I would LIKE them to reconcile for both of their sakes bc I think it would be a really powerful opportunity for healing
llycaons · 2 years
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btw all my attachment to the possibility of reconciliation is entirely for wwx's sake. jc's arc is undeniably tragic and he was working with incomplete information and he wasn't the only person to make mistakes but with how he treated wwx postres I cannot muster up the slightest bit of "aww but he really wants to be brothers again, now he's sad!" nope! you treat someone like shit and I won't feel bad for you if you never see them again!
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connabeth · 5 months
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that was the best episode by FAR and here’s why:
1. annabeth instinctually knowing he’s alive and refusing to lose her faith in him even when grover didn’t believe so.
2. the hug. the overwhelming relief on her face. his pleasantly surprised reaction. us being able to see everything visually click in grover’s head once he realized what he’s in for. percy teasing her about it when they’re hiding on the highway bc he assumes that’s why she’s being standoffish. grover heaving and rolling his eyes when percy suggests that. i can already envision the MoA parallels in my head of them running to each other.
3. percy and annabeth referring to each other as friends on multiple occasions like FINALLY you’re getting it
4. percy telling annabeth and grover about his revelation that the quest goes deeper than they think and annabeth and grover being light years ahead of him
5. percy’s renewed faith in his father contrasted with annabeth’s dwindling faith in her mother
6. annabeth seeing the fates cut a string and mentally preparing herself to sacrifice herself for her friends and the quest bc she’s so ride or die for them it’s insane even if she’ll deny it and say it’s for the sake of the quest.
7. none of them talking to gods with the deference they’re supposed to. annabeth cooly staring down ares like she couldn’t be blasted to smithereens.
8. annabeth casually mentioning she’s never seen a movie ever to an appalled percy, speaking to how sheltered camp life has been for the last 5 years, making her unaware of general pop culture. percy promising to catch her up on what she’s missing out on. cut to their interrupted botl movie date that’s most definitely not a date. cut to MoA when she mentions roman holiday is her favorite movie bc she watched it a lot with her dad after they somewhat reconciled…also due in part to percy.
9. annabeth getting distracted by the beauty of the machine at the entrance while percy thinks he is actively going to die. her love for design will never not be endearing.
9. percy and annabeth riding down the tunnel of love seeing hephaestus’s story play out and annabeth insisting that sally prepared him the best way she could’ve—with unwavering loyalty to his loved ones, the antithesis to the gods.
10. annabeth being so ready to sacrifice herself for him, especially after probably being ridden with guilt and self-hatred for letting him get the best of her at the gateway arch, and understanding he would never let her do that. his pure faith in her as being the most capable—“You’re better at this than me. You just are.” with the utmost conviction in his voice. both of them tearing up and percy begging her to do what he originally chose her on the quest for. annabeth fighting back every instinct within her that despises standing back and letting someone else take the fall. him turning to her and saying “i need you to promise me something” and her immediately swearing if she’s able to save anyone on this quest, it’ll be his mother, knowing that’s the most important thing to him in all of this. him asking she come back for him and her scoffing “you think you had to ask?” and his sad watery smile back, knowing he didn’t need to….ALSO the ever-iconic “seaweed brain”. PEAK cinema i’m telling you
11. percy trusting annabeth with riptide as his parting gift and thing to give her strength and remember him by. paralleled with how she’ll (hopefully) untie her camp necklace and tie it around his neck before his final fight with ares as a token of good luck and entrusting him with the home she wore around her throat…
12. the well-written conversations with the gods, though unexpected. grover being FAR more clever than he’s given credit for, manipulating ares’s tendency towards anger, bitterness, and pride to get what he wanted out of him. annabeth rejecting hephaestus’s promises of power and glory and the renewal of her mother’s favoritism and pride, something annabeth used to crave with her entire heart. annabeth echoing to hephaestus what she said to percy in the tunnel about him not being like the rest of their godly family and telling the god that she refuses to be like them too. that the way they treat each other and their children isn’t right, the same way percy insisted to her last episode. hephaestus being one of the only gods capable of empathizing with her and telling her “you’re a good kid, annabeth. i’ll put in a good word with your mom for you.” no one speak to me i’m unwell
13. timothy omundson in general…although i keep hearing him as lassie in my head 😭
14. ares negging on them and warning percy his dad’s mind is as fickle as the sea itself and percy won’t be able to hold down his father’s favor and percy responding by threatening the literal god of war in the most percy-like fashion
15. ares didn’t call twitter X. but now we know who’s behind the mentally ill stan wars
things they really didn’t need to change:
1. the one thing i am really miffed about it is them robbing thief annabeth from my cold, dead hands. i wanted to see her raid a store without a second thought and be a little gremlin!!! she has hermes’s influence all over her (thanks luke/being a runaway), let us see it!!!
2. percy and annabeth being slightly awkward at the entrance of the thrill ride of love didn’t carry the same humor as the book scene because they’re such children about it in tlt and annabeth is extremely flustered but we don’t see that here.
3. aphrodite’s scarf. it was a fun detail they could’ve kept. seeing percy making heart eyes would’ve been funny (and maybe a glimpse into future seasons)
4. percy seeing a clip of gabe being gabe and saying “im going to kill him” is merely a NUGGET of the hatred we should be seeing from percy for that man. especially in area’s presence which feeds off of and amplifies everybody’s anger and hatred and bloodlust. there still needs to be more build up to turning gabe to stone at the end of all this
5. percy blacking out from using his powers to get him and annabeth out of the water. while he’s nowhere close to being a master at his craft at this point in the books, and he is known to lose control, even as a more seasoned warrior, i don’t think what he did warranted a blackout. i feel like they’re underselling his innate strength a little bit.
6. overall, although it kind of worked out, there was just a lot of plot deviation from the books—grover not going to waterland, no mechanical spiders, percy and annabeth not jumping out the ride into free fall and being saved by grover wearing maia, although they crash into a billboard etc etc.
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fakakta-art · 1 year
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I have this Jewish Dick Grayson headcanon but I'm not Jewish so I was wondering if you'd give me feedback or something like that if it's not too much trouble. I imagine he'd be raised secular by his parents and when he starts living with Bruce he participates in Jewish traditions/holidays because Bruce uses his own family experiences to try and connect with his new kid. so Dick decides to fully lean into it and convert to Judaism. I think he'd have a Bar Mitzvah to formally show that, but Bruce didn't have any formal event for his because without his parents it's difficult. so when Dick gets to really celebrate his Bar Mitzvah it's a special moment of connection for them and Bruce is very proud. Dick becoming Jewish helped him reconnect with his mom after her death and it's all very sentimental. once again I'm not Jewish so I don't know if that makes sense
I'm always happy to talk Jewish batfam and i absolutely love when people share their HCs with me! :D I'm so flattered you reached out! If you mean you HC Dick as having a Jewish parent/parents, but just not being raised religiously Jewish, he wouldn't actually need to "convert". Judaism is an Ethnoreligion, aka: an ethnicity AND a religion, so you can be ethnically Jewish and not religiously, and vice-versa. It is enough to simply be born to Jewish parents (Mother if you're traditional, either if you're more reform). Conversion in Judaism is quite different from a lot of other religions, since Judaism is considered a "closed" religion. Gentiles (non-Jews) can convert, but the process is arduous and involves lots of study and communications with rabbis, etc.
If you mean raised secular in that John and Mary are both gentiles, but Dick ends up adopted as a kid by Bruce (a Jewish man), then he could be raised culturally Jewish, and might even be accepted as such in some Jewish communities depending on the denomination and such, but he would technically still need to convert to be "officially" Jewish.
A Bar Mitzvah does not count as a conversion, it's a separate, but very important coming-of-age ceremony that considers you a Jewish adult when a boy turns 13. It comes with responsibilities and practices, definitely something I love imagining Dick having, being supported by Bruce though, and reconciling with his past and such.
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For the sake of not making the worlds longest post, I'm putting the rest under the cut!
I'm totally a sucker for HCs of someone reconnecting to their religion, I'm also totally a sucker for Jewish HCs so you're totally in my wheelhouse! I absolutely invite you anytime to message me or anything cause I could go for days on this.
I wont dump my entire hoard of HCs on you, but yours are actually quite similar to some of mine!! I figured I'd share some ehe, no obligation to read it or nothin'
Bruce I HC to be Ashkenazi Jewish, on both Martha and Thomas's side. I imagine they were somewhat conservative (Masorti) Jewish, but Martha's extended family was Orthodox. I HC Bruce was raised pretty Jewishly until his parents were killed, and from then on Alfred, who is not Jewish, did his best to uphold the values and religion that Bruce's parents had left behind with him. Also, bc I always establish a latke Opinion for every Jewish HC I Have...Bruce would totally be a cream cheese and lox latke guy, bougie ass. As for a Bar Mitzvah for Bruce...I usually waffle between HCs of either
A) Bruce not doing a bar mitzvah celebration since there's many practices associated w the parents that he knew would be too painful, but as an adult he regrets not having one or might even do a belated one as an adult at some point with prodding from his kids
Or B) Alfred, knowing the importance of it, pushes Bruce to actually do it and tries his best to do the parental duties. It's sweet small and all that but still nice
As for Dick, I usually HC that his father John was Romani and his mother Mary was Jewish, born Miryam (Jewish name) but changed it to Mary to pass as gentile cause of the Antisemeitism. I HC her, and by extension Dick, as Sephardic rather than Ashkenazi (regionally different flavors of Judaism due to diaspora, very interesting to look up if you have time). Anyways, Bruce and Dick def had a "similar but different" motif about it but very wholesome. I think Dick still knew stuff and had a connection to it, but didn't like, attend services or anything pre-Bruce. He probably loved Purim, though. I imagine when Dick was young, he and Bruce would celebrate Shabbat together and light the candles every week. As for Latke pref...applesauce and sour cream at the same time on the same latke.
For Jason, I actually HC him as mixed race (afrolatino, white, etc) and raised Catholic, so pre-Bruce he didn't know anything about Judaism at all. I don't think he'd have crazy strong connections to religion of any sort, but he'd still have some adjusting to do. I think he'd participate culturally with the fam, doing Passover seders, playing dreidel, etc, but I don't think he'd be doing much praying or anything. Sour cream on Latkes truther, but he'll add pico de gallo sometimes if he's got it.
Now for Tim, I also HC as Jewish, but whereas Martha and Thomas were very outwardly Jewish, I imagine Tim's parents were not. In my hcs, Janet was raised conservative but sorta dropped it. Jack was raised reform and didn't really practice anything. I imagine they didn't want to broadcast a lot of their Jewishness out of fear it would impact their business, which they cared about more. Most of Tim's participation started and ended with the High Holy Days, or the occasional moment his parents ever rarely felt religiously inclined. Maybe some brief Hanukkah stuff, cause of the capitalism and whatnot. I think he would do a lot of his own research, though, and know enough to get by. I think he would also eat his Latkes with ketchup, bc he's bonkers.
Now for Damian, obviously he's half Jewish cause Bruce is his father, but Talia I HC as Muslim (can't remember how canon it is) and raising him practicing Islam I think makes him lean more towards that religiously even if he is ethnically both. He's interested in Bruce's culture, bc thats his dad! but not like, with spiritual intent at his age. I think the whole fam though is happy to celebrate Eid with him, support him fasting during Ramadan, etc, though! When Alfred makes Latkes though he prefers applesauce or plain, as most kids in my experience prefer.
ANYWAYS sorry this got WAY longer than I thought it would. I have more for the rest of the batfam and stuff but i'll stop here. Biggest HC dump EVER huh..anyways if you actually got to the end thanks for reading it! feel free to message me any questions or send another ask, clearly, I usually have something to say about it LOL
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bassiter2 · 2 years
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the main reason for the sheer amount of meta yall make about the whole "ed doesn't kill" specifically re: "does izzy actually know" imo is the need to reconcile the fact that izzy has been ed's right hand man for a decade and the fact that his behavior indicates that he may not actually be aware of it. and that's really understandable, like I absolutely see the desire to believe that izzy has (had) an intimate enough relationship with ed to be aware of that fact about him. but the thing is, I feel it's made pretty clear and in fact necessary by the narrative that what ed told stede in the bathtub was the first time he told anybody.
before I lose you: YES, a hundred percent, izzy knows that ed killed his dad. it was probably an intimate moment between them once upon a time, ed telling izzy that he killed his own dad. but what i do not believe izzy knows, and what ed himself likely did not fully understand until the fuckery episode, is that he was traumatized by it.
see, the old ed was coping with feeling like a monster by taking pride in it, and izzy was romanticizing that proudly ruthless man. the ed we know is realizing that that was unhealthy and is finally processing those feelings properly, with someone who will let him be soft and in fact reassure him that he is NOT the monster he thinks he is. izzy was never that person (bc if he was then we wouldn't have the show to begin with), so that full confession could never have happened.
it wouldn't have been something that izzy just observed on his own, either. aside from any theories about how izzy offers to kill stede for him and what that signifies about their relationship... I think this is just where a lot of people don't seem to really get the point of ed's confession about not having killed another man since his dad. all the talk (and most often misuse, tbh) of "unreliable narrators" in this fandom and almost no one wants to accept that ed's claim of not killing is, as far as most people both irl and in-universe would see it, Not True.
what matters is that ed believes it because this confession scene isn't about morality, but about ed personally feeling like a monster and getting it off his chest to stede and proving that stede will let him grow into a healthy version of himself rather than expect him to repress his trauma. the point IS trauma.
like, the only part of killing that ed abstains from, or can't bring himself to do, is being physically and consciously present for the victim taking their final breath as the culmination of his violence. and for the sake of the narrative and this scene, it's fine and makes sense that this is the most significant thing to ed. and it makes sense for his personal feelings, too - he was only horrified by the murder of his father once it was over and the rage had fizzled out and he was face to face with what he'd done, so that's the trigger moment for him. just facing the wanton ending of a life.
but for just about everyone else, especially the victims, that is not the most significant part of killing. being the cause of death in any direct capacity is killing. maiming someone and leaving them for dead is killing. setting a ship on fire, knowing that many of them will not be able to jump to safety, is killing. pushing someone into the ocean, to the sharks, is killing.
you want to believe that izzy knows ed doesn't kill because of all the time that izzy has known him, but that's exactly it. izzy has known ed for a decade and he HAS watched ed kill, by his own definition of killing. he may have a sense of "ed prefers to let others do the dirty work when it's not on the battlefield" but as far as he's concerned, ed kills. just like any other fucking pirate, of COURSE he fucking kills.
and you know what? by the events of we gull way back I think ed has even re-routed his definition of killing back to the normal one, and it's why his confession to stede didn't ultimately save him from feeling like a monster for very long. he processed his trauma a bit but then jack reminded him that just because he hasn't watched the life leave someone's eyes doesn't mean he hasn't been the cause of many a death and done plenty of other horrible things. but imo it's also BECAUSE of ed's development through stede that he's able to even have this unrepressed guilt, this sense of responsibility to keep himself away from those he might hurt or at least taint. it's still not ideal, as it's very much informed by a diminished self worth, but it's a step in the right direction to processing the more complex trauma of all the harm he caused after killing his dad.
or it was, before he backtracked to his old coping method of Embracing The Kraken.
as for izzy... he's a tragic character and you can very much see it as part of his tragedy that not only did ed grow out of him but for all the time that he knew ed, he still didn't really know him. but it can also be a simple matter of izzy just not being right or healthy for ed in the long run, as he was never an influence for ed to change or realize things about himself. except for the worse.
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heartpascal · 8 months
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i screamed and cried you got exactly what i was i was thinking but also so much better in my ask about if the door wasn't shut, it's like you're inside my brain. but i have more thoughts since you said you liked them :)
also this is my second time typing this out bc my phone died when i went to send it the first time, so if you get this twice that's my bad😭
but you're so right, i just feel like after everything along with all it took for her to truly feel settled, she wouldn't be able to leave like that. especially not without someone else influencing her to, whether that be actively or passively. but imo, in addition to joel, a big part of why she wouldn't leave is because tommy left, and she wouldn't be able to bring herself to leave maria too
and tommy leaving is so stuck in my head because you're so right(this whole thing is just me agreeing with you😭) that would be so crazy for her. because tommy was there and he knows what that was like for r and joel on both ends. so for him to leave after all that? i actually think in a way it'd be worse than when joel left. because obviously r was hurt and angry with joel, but she gets to a point where she can start to understand why he did what he did and bridge that with the fact that it was okay to feel how she did, and work on reconciling that with joel. but for tommy, that base hurt/anger mixed with grief? and on top of him leaving maria and his kid, and r's own guilt, and everything else like. it would just all be too much. because how can you move past that even when he does come back? their relationship would be forever changed more so than it obviously already is. it's devastating and tragic i'm literally foaming at the mouth i need to write essays about this
obviously she goes with jesse and saves him and everyone comes home safe and okay🥲😭
no but fr i know i'm stuck on the idea of her staying behind, but it's breaking my heart so bad. bc part of her probably did feel like she should go, so she's already going to feel some type of way after she doesn't. but it would just ruin her when jesse doesn't come back. i feel like she'd be stuck for a while on how could she have let him go, and how could she have stayed behind, and how could the rest of them let this happen, when really it wasn't in any of their control. i could sob about it.
dina and her raising jj together means everything to me your mind is so powerful. i need several full length novels about it full of feelings😭
anon i cannot TELL YOU how much i love this and you. YOU MAKE MY DAY!!! i love love LOVE hearing your thoughts it feeds my own fr :’) and omg 😭i’ve only gotten it the once but i feel for you </3 having to type all this out a second time omg
you are so incredibly correct like i cannot even explain. please excuse me if my thoughts are incoherent i am going to do my best 🫡
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reader and tommy’s relationship would NEVER be the same. honestly i don’t think there would even be a chance for forgiveness like there was with joel. especially because joel did have to go, he didn’t have to leave her, but he did have to go. whereas tommy??? no!!! he could have stayed. he could have done what his brother has been trying to do for YEARS and he could have let it go, for the sake of his wife and his child and R!!!!!!! tommy had so many things in jackson that he should’ve stayed for, and he didn’t. and i don’t think r would’ve been able to forgive that.
not to mention the effects on tommy’s appearance after seattle! i have always always thought that he was reasonable (to himself) for being fucking furious with ellie. because he lost everything, going after abby. he lost his wife, his friends, his functionality???, and ellie seemingly didn’t lose a thing. all the while abby got away just fine! so yeah i think his reaction, considering his state of mind, was reasonable. right? no. but reasonable? yes. BUT!!! imagine the effects of losing reader too???? not to mention how much more damage this would do to his marriage as well like ???? :( maria might have been able to forgive him, one day, but seeing what he did to r, who she sees as her own child???? NO!!!!
so yeah. tommy and reader would never be the same. i’m not sure r would even be able to speak to him again. honestly she’s going through it 😭 loses joel and then tommy and possibly jesse along with him? guys. please. she doesn’t deserve this.
i jsut cant get over it :( she just wouldn’t be able to understand what would possess tommy to leave after everything he’s seen her go through :( after everything he’s HELPED her through :( i think she would really struggle for a long time. she’s lost the only thing she had left of the childhood she never really got, and alongside it, the parent she had always thought she would never have :(
I CAN BARELT TALK ABOUT JESSE WITHOUT AOBBING AND SCREAMING AND CRYING. god. why did they do that to him.
she DID feel like she should go 😭 i think it would’ve been maria’s reassurance and support that would’ve been the only reason she didn’t go when ellie did. BJT JESSE???? he would’ve told her to stay. and she would’ve because she trusted him and she loved him and she KNEW he would come back. he wasn’t leaving her like everybody else because he would never. he had seen her through the good, the bad and the REALLY bad and he had never once even considered stepping out the door. he’s the man. he’s the myth. he’s the legend. she never gets to keep good things.
and then he doesn’t come back? ellie and dina come back to jackson, dragging a half-dead tommy behind them, and they didn’t even bring back jesse’s body. (in my mind anwyay. they were already injured as it was and just trying to keep tommy alive.) i don’t think she would know what to do with that. i don’t think she would know how to live with that. how do you carry on as if everything is fine when it’s so clearly not? jesse was the one person she knew would always come back to her, and in her mind, because of ellie and dina, he hadn’t.
so yeah. the only good relationship she would have left following joel’s death would be with maria. maria who becomes her rock. maria who leans on her and allows herself to be leaned on in return. maria who is the love of my life.
i just cant get over it. i just cant. like imagine. the devastation of jesse’s death would be unmatched. it truly would. how does one person handle so much loss? and the guilt? what does she do with that?
just thinking about maria holding r’s shoulder as she hands her the chalkboard and lets her write jesse’s name. maria hugging r when she cries over not even know when he died. maria figuring it out from the botched recounts that ellie and dina give. maria writing it on the board and holding r’s hand as she shows her.
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GIVE ME THE ELLIE LORE RRAAAAAGG🫵🫵🫵
OHHH BOY OKAY WHERE DO I START WITH THIS. HEADS UP THIS IS GOING TO BE SO LONG EVEN IF IM JUST SUMMARIZING THE BASIC SET UP!!! Also the plot is pretty heavy on violence but for the sake of this ask I'll try to skirt around the details
I suppose before I start explaining the details surrounding Elle I should talk about the actual overarching story itself! It's a story of reflection, mostly. Something I put together (with my boyfriend who made the other main character in the story, Tilly!) that contains a lot of the feelings I was never able to make sense of/reconcile with as a kid. Obviously it's done in a super over-the-top kind of way but I feel like it still works pretty well for its purpose. A lot of the metaphors and plot points are actually INTENTIONALLY inflated bc I wanted to encompass any weird middle schooler's love for edge and cringe (... my love for those things haven't changed either, admittedly <3). It's about young sapphic love and finding family in friends rather than in blood, it's about how fucked up middle school is, it's about transness and identity. It's about growing up too fast. There's a lot more to be said about the themes of it but these are the most prominent I feel.
As for the plot itself, I'll only explain the opening of it or else we'll be here all day. What you need to know is: Elle is a pretty fucked up kid. Often bullied for being The Weird Girl in middle school and with a mom who doesn't really care about her (would classify it as neglectful like "you do your thing I'll do mine" rather than abusive though ig neglect is a kind of abuse), she's left to face the world on her own. And of course this leads to things like unrestricted internet access as a child (should mention it takes place roughly in 2008/2009 so this kind of stuff is in full swing), morbid curiosities not really having a reason to fade, etc. There's quite a bit that happens in between her early life and the catalyst of what sets the plot in motion, like how she loses one of her eyes and whatnot, but I'll skip that part for now considering it's a little upsetting? Anyways, one day she meets a girl named Miriam. Miriam is a sweetheart and an A+ student... as well as the first person to give Elle a second of their time. Over the following weeks, a friendship starts to bloom between them. The friendship, however, comes to a close much too soon when a very paranoid Elle fucks up and makes a split second decision that gets Miriam killed. Its completely motivated by fear and self preservation, so of course she instantly regrets it. None of the potential witnesses around her figure she had anything to do with it. She's just a little girl after all. But there's one person who saw what she did. Staring at Elle from a distance with knowing in her eyes. Tilly. And it just so happens that Tilly is also kind of a fucked up Weird Girl! Who goes to Elle's school! Of course she does. Elle heads to school over the following days expecting to be called a murderer, arrested, or killed herself after being exposed by Tilly but... this doesn't happen...? Tilly tells no one. Rather, the students at school show Elle pity, thinking she was a victim. And yet Elle feels Tilly's eyes bearing holes into the back of her head all throughout class. Elle suspects this is a threatening thing, but instead, Tilly soon expresses an interest in Elle that likely also stems from her own morbid curiosity (however Elle can't fucking stand her for quite a while). Over time the two find themselves bonding somehow! Elle finds comfort in Tilly's similar struggles to her own, finds someone who pays attention to her for once with no possibility of hurting her. Tilly finds a home in Elle that her broken family can't provide for her. It sounds very unhealthy considering the context behind their meeting but it's genuinely very helpful for both of them, and sooner or later they find themselves dating ^_^ !! This, uh..... doesn't stop them from getting into worse trouble down the line though............
I have a much longer version of this written out but this is a lot already so maybe another time? Sorry if this sounds rushed!! Its a lot of info I'm trying to stuff in here at once so a lot of the more nuanced and slow-moving topics dealt with in the story may seem a little awkwardly phrased here
Now despite literally everything I've said about Elle and Tilly, they're both big babies and I love them a lot. They're very sweet just ignore the violence okay? Here's some art of them together my bf (@nervigg) did!! Same one I used as my pfp! Girlfriends :^]
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edoro · 2 years
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Huntlow for the ship bingo.
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i really like Huntlow! i have in fact written a whole 3 (soon to be 4) fic series about it so yeah you could say i'm invested.
(extensive rambling about my personal Huntlow appreciation journey + my feelings about their dynamic under the cut)
i've had an interesting journey here, because prior to the back half of s2 dropping, it was really one of my least favorite Hunter ships! it felt very 'pair the spare' to me and a lot of the content i saw for it was just... i don't know, kind of relentlessly blandly Babies Ever After-ly heterosexual in a way that did not really feel in keeping with either of their characters, and just Did Not Appeal To Me At All. it was not my thing at all, and i was just a lot more interested in exploring Hunter's relationships with other people.
and even when it started getting teased after s2e13, i was still pretty reluctant... honestly, i spent quite a while in s2 being really anxious that anytime the two of them showed up on-screen, we were going to get some kind of ship tease or confirmation that would be Awkward Forced And Rushed And Then I Would Hate It.
however, i actually now really like both the ship and the way it's being handled in the show. i mean, they definitely could still totally beef it in s3, and i think that if they do go anywhere with it other than just kind of background teasing Hunter having a crush, it's probably going to be a little rushed just because of their severely compressed runtime, but right now at least i basically have faith that whatever they do, i'm not going to hate it.
i really like the way TOH handles romance - Lumity imo was really well done and drawn out and built up way more than i would have ever expected from a cartoon like this, and it's continuing to change and develop as a relationship and also with the two of them as characters, so it feels organic and natural.
Raeda is absolutely delicious and i really appreciate the way we've been shown there are still feelings there, but there hasn't been any kind of rush to get back together or reconcile, because they have bigger things to worry about now. basically, the show tends to handle romance in a way that feels organic and realistic and doesn't feel like it's just shoe-horned in there for the sake of Having A Romance Plot,
and therefore i have no reason to suspect that Huntlow (whether it's confirmed, sunk, or just continually teased in the background) will be any different.
(i know some people feel like it's rushed, and i've seen criticisms to the effect of either "it's way too soon for Hunter to have a crush, they barely know each other" or, like, even worse, "Hunter is too traumatized to be in a relationship so it shouldn't happen" - for the first all i can really say is that i must have had a very different experience of being a teenager, because 'getting crushes on people basically just bc you think they're cool after one interaction or even just bc you Like How They Look' sure was normal for me and my friends.
tbh it feels a little bit like a weird ripple effect of the way people treat fictional adolescent sexuality like it's radioactive and even alluding to it means you should be put on some kind of list, so, like, we can't go "maybe he just thinks she's really pretty and is interested in her that way, and his attraction is only increasing as he gets to know and admire her"
as far as the second one goes, i mean, 1) the specific ways he's traumatized really imo make him more likely to get very attached very quickly and 2) the fact that he's traumatized in ways that mean he's likely to have some really unhealthy thought patterns and behaviors around intimate relationships of any sort is in fact part of why i like the ship - i think there's a lot of potential there for, you know, a recovery narrative/Hunter learning about healthy relationships first-hand, or alternately just A Really Entertaining Trainwreck)
but yeah like... there really is a lot of potential! they have a lot in common! they can relate to being treated as 'half a witch', outcasts due to the way their powers (or lack thereof) manifested/work, they both have this kind of self-sacrificing tendency, i think Willow would certainly have some feelings about the high-school Mean Girls shit Hunter endured at the hands of the other coven heads in the castle
and Hunter is just like, so eager to find someone to dedicate himself to, which could and probably will go some unhealthy places but is also very fun. does Willow not deserve to go mad with the power of having an incredibly loyal boytoy who also has elite military training? i submit that she absolutely does.
they could be really good for each other - having someone who believes in her so wholly and has confidence in her leadership skills would really help Willow's self-esteem, because she's still at the point where if anything goes wrong, she just immediately crumples into a wadded up ball of self-loathing. but Hunter's used to things going wrong, and while, yeah, it seems like he does also internalize that a lot, he does also seem to have the ability to just pick himself up and keep trying.
if a mission goes sideways and you're in charge, you can't have a breakdown in the field, you have to rally your troops and do what salvage you can and then figure out what went wrong and how to keep it from going wrong again next time. for all that his constant attempts to Be Better And Fix Things come from this place of really frantically seeking approval from like, literally anyone who will give it to him (and in Belos's case, a person who he can never actually earn it from), that's genuinely a very valuable skill to have, and i think it's something that he could teach Willow.
he can offer a sense of perspective about a lot of things, and in a way i think it'd be easier for her to believe it coming from him, because - well he's her friend (and/or boyfriend) but also he was a professional soldier, a coven head, and he's sort of a latecomer/outsider to the friend group, and he is decidedly uninvolved in the whole little drama knot with Amity and etc, and didn't know her as a kid - his perspective on her is just really different compared to Gus or Luz (or Amity), and i think she could really benefit from that perspective.
and then on her end, well, mostly she can teach him how to be a normal, well-adjusted person. she can treat him like a person, rather than a tool or a weapon or a reflection or extension of the Emperor, which is something he desperately needs. one thing i like about the idea of him basically just shifting from living his life for Belos and being Belos's tool to living his life for Willow and being Willow's tool is that she wouldn't actually like or want that - they'd end up having to talk about it and boundaries would be negotiated and it would be a good experience for Hunter.
just in general it seems like Willow is pretty good about boundaries in some ways. she's learned not to take crap from people, even if she still gives it to herself and her confidence is still shaky. she's a pretty calm and level-headed person, esp in interpersonal situations, which is absolutely not the case for Hunter - he can keep calm in a high-stress combat situation, but he just falls to pieces when it comes to interpersonal stuff.
just! ah! they go together in so many interesting ways! their respective strengths and weaknesses and traumas intersect in so many fun ways! also there's so much potential for shenanigans oh my god!!
it's just actually very good although i am tbh still incredibly picky about what fic i want to read for it. i have certain very specific opinions about the ship. but i've really come around from my initial feelings about it.
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paarthursass · 8 months
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2, 6 (someone from their past? Maybe companions you happen to like together? :O) 10, 20 & 28 for Aurel x Wyll :3
heheheeee thank you ♥
Any sleep habits either had to get used to?
Any sleeping arrangements between an elf and a human is already going to be interesting, simply because elves go into a meditative trance instead of sleeping. I take this to mean that Aurel is semi-aware of his surroundings while he goes into that sleep-like trance, so he's a much lighter "sleeper" than Wyll is. And because elves really only need to fall into this trance for 4 hours a day, this usually means that Aurel is both the last to fall asleep and the first to wake up. Which is probably for the best. Aurel is also a dhampir, and dhampirs do not need to breathe, and I am sure Wyll has woken up, half aware of his surroundings, and found Aurel lying next to him cold and not breathing and nearly had a heart attack because of it.
BUT on days when Wyll doesn't wake up early and momentarily forget that Aurel not breathing is okay, I like to think this means that Aurel wakes up early to surprise Wyll with breakfast quite often. Or sometimes snuggles.
I also headcanon that, due to his dhampir nature, Aurel runs a bit cooler than Wyll - especially post devil transformation, being dragged through the Hells probably made that man a humanoid furnace rivaled only by Karlach - so the blanket situation is probably a small point of contention. It usually ends with Aurel absolutely COCOONED in blankets while Wyll's still lying there completely warm. But then on hotter nights Wyll cuddles with Aurel to keep cool, and then on colder nights Aurel can cuddle with Wyll to keep warm. <3
Double Date? Thoughts? Who?
Ok. I don't really have any "canon" pairings between the other companions in Aurel's worldstate (I have a hard time picking favorite pairings w the origin companions bcs i think they all work so well together. i have too much fun smushing them together like barbies), but I think the absolute FUNNIEST option for a double date here is with Lae'zel/Shadowheart. Wyll earnestly thinks this is a good idea. Aurel is fairly certain this is a bad idea but Wyll wants to so he's agreeing. Shadowheart KNOWS this is a bad idea but thinks it'll be funny. Lae'zel begrudgingly goes along. She is endlessly annoyed by Aurel and Wyll spouting poetic nonsense and making puppydog eyes at each other across the table because she and Shadowheart primarily flirt by getting into knife fights. I am sure a fight will eventually break out somehow by the end of this - not between the two couples, but just because violence follows this group.
2nd funniest option is Aurel and Wyll with Lae'zel and Gale. Because now you've got a THIRD poetry nerd there and Lae'zel is simmering there half in annoyance half with fondness she DOESN'T want to admit but these are in fact her nerds. 🙄 Also you know Gale starts to rattle off some theorem and Lae'zel goes "well now i can't not fuck him" and yanks him off somewhere leaving Aurel and Wyll by themselves.
either way. double date failed i'm pretty sure.
How do they deal with the other’s family?
Aurel was SO TORN when he first met Ulder Ravengard. He had a fairly low opinion of the man from Wyll's stories, but held back his opinion for the sake of Wyll. After the rescue from the Iron Throne and Ulder continued to treat Wyll with disdain, Aurel was still extremely displeased with the man, but - knowing how important his own relationship with his father was - put all that aside to try and mend their relationship.
Even after Wyll and Ulder reconciled, Aurel - though he was happy to see Wyll on good terms with his father - was still fairly distant and cold with Ulder. He didn't know what to make of the man, except he was certain that, if pressed again, Ulder would again choose Baldur's Gate over Wyll. It wasn't until after Wyll proposed that Aurel went "oh....oh that's going to be my father-in-law" that he softened in opinion, and then began to earnestly try to make a connection with him. And because Aurel is a well-mannered young man of noble bearing who also had a GREAT many good deeds under his belt by this point, I think Ulder approved of Aurel as a match for his son.
But then, of course, there is Aurel's father.
(assuming this happens in a universe where Aurel DOESN'T become an illithid bcs that would add a whole other layer to this complication)
Aurel would be ecstatic to introduce Wyll to Dragomir - he knows his dad would love him, and he REPEATEDLY assures Wyll of this fact. "Oh he can look quite intimidating but I assure you he's such a softie on the inside!"
Wyll probably has some reservations about meeting this ancient true vampire - especially after their encounter with Cazador - but he trusts Aurel would never bring him somewhere if he thought he would come to harm. He's most concerned about how Dragomir will react to his status as a monster hunter, but once they do meet, Wyll is very quickly assuaged of all concerns. Dragomir - though quite reserved - is delighted Aurel has found someone, and he very quickly decides he likes Wyll. He can tell Wyll care for Aurel just as much as Aurel does for him, and the monster hunter thing barely phases him. "Are you planning on killing me or my son?" "No, of course not!" "Then there is no issue." Also Dragomir has absolutely had his own romantic encounters with monster hunters in the past, which he casually brings up at one point during a dinner with Aurel and Wyll and Aurel immediately goes "Papa please stop telling us about your romantic exploits." Wyll thinks it's hilarious.
I think the biggest potential hiccup would be how Ulder Ravengard and Dragomir react to each other. With how chaotic everything is with the Netherbrain, Aurel and Wyll don't have time to really bring Ulder up to speed on the fact that Wyll has engaged himself to a dhampir, and one whose vampire father is still alive and also very much involved in Aurel's life. Though I like to think Ulder would not be so quick to judge - considering the last time he did so, he became estranged from his son for 7 years - I do think he would look on at a dhampir (and possibly a true vampire) getting close to his son with suspicion. Aurel has proved himself to be trustworthy, but his father...? I think Ulder would have quite a few reservations about Dragomir.
Most cuddly?
Aurel, by far. Zero contest here actually. He gets SOOO clingy. He wants to hold Wyll's hand, he wants to snuggle up against him by the campfire. He will hug him from behind and then smooch him in the middle of a crowd. I mentioned how he only needs 4 hours of sleep and yet he will happily lay in bed for another 4 hours just because it means he gets to snuggle Wyll. He gets a little too tipsy at camp one night and then he just plops himself down on Wyll's lap in front of EVERYONE and you know the others teased him relentlessly about that the next day.
Wyll is slightly more reserved with physical affection, but that's mostly because Aurel initiates it 95% of the time anyways. He loves it, and he finds it so so endearing how touchy Aurel is. And on the rare occasion where Aurel doesn't beat him to the hand-holding or the cheek smooch, Wyll likes to sneak in with a hug or a kiss and Aurel absolutely melts.
Who takes the longest getting ready to leave?
Aurel and Wyll both take very good care of their appearances but Aurel has quite a few more steps in his usual morning routine. That eyeliner requires precision.
But when it comes to formal events? Oh they both take AGES. Because they're not just taking care of themselves, they're also helping each other. Aurel asking Wyll for his opinion on whether to wear the cravat or to show a tasteful amount of collarbone, Wyll asking Aurel for what accessories to put on his horns (and probably requiring some assistance with that as well), fixing each other's overcoats and getting distracted over and over again by saying "Oh you look so dashing my dear, I'll have to fight off swarms of admirers if I want to dance with you" "Please, no one will be looking at me while I have the most dazzling star from the heavens on my arm" etc etc.
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angelguk · 3 years
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omg so i sent in an ask re angst jock jk n oc ! but then i also realized its highly possible these 2 break up at one point while in uni mostly bc of the "are we dating bc its convenient" kinda dilemma and then it just pushes them apart bc they think theyre losing theirselves while being in such a close relationship,,,cue save ur tears by theweeknd BUT i just know when they grow up a lil bit more, theyll end up together <3
here we go! (the beginning of the end....may be...)
didn’t include save your tears as the soundtrack but may haps for the follow-up :3
pairing: jock!jk and oc
warnings: angst, yes the break-up scene, jaykay being an ass (a very huge one motivated by his own insecurities and selfishness – translation: he’d rather break her heart and carry that weight than be the heartbroken one), chayoung is no longer Seed of Doubt but something else (still up for debate but she’s fairly nice here), not edited but hey atp that’s part of my branding (also i would like everyone to consider that oc is not the greatest gf ever like guys don’t hate jk alone!!)
soundtrack: bags, clairo + stay, gracie abrams + say you know, alina baraz
(titled — honeymoon fades)
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Jeongguk’s contact name hasn’t lit up the screen of your phone for six days now and you haven’t seen his face for just as long. It’s weird to go from constant incessant  communication to complete and utter radio silence. Not a single meme deposited in your Instagram inbox, no random notification from his Twitter. Just silence, quiet brewing silence. 
It breaks two days later when Chayoung finds you coddled under your duvet, mouth stuffed with the saccharine sweetness of mint chocolate. (Jeongguk kept a stash of it at your place but who was around to eat it anymore apart from you?). 
“And why do you look like you live in a dumpster?” She’d hummed, ripping open the curtains you’d involuntarily welded shut. 
“Because that’s how I feel inside,” you’d retorted, pushing aside your laptop. The screen is stuck with an image of an idiotic character named Nabi kissing the spawn of Satan. You hope for her sake it works out. Chayoung had huffed at your response, fondly whacking your head with a stray pillow. 
“Well get over that feeling cause we’re going out tonight.” A declaration, the fierceness in her feline eyes a warning that you’re not allowed to even think of saying no. That doesn’t mean you hadn’t tried – sorrowful eyes and pouted lips as you begged her to spare you. But Chayoung is a force of nature, one that could easily wreak havoc on your delicateness. And she does though, with a string of comments that propels you out of the miserable burrow you’d dug up. 
“You’re killing everyone, you know?” She’d supplied, yanking open your closet. “You’re sulking, Jeongguk is shutting down. He’s said like five words since this whole...thing...you have going on.” 
You couldn’t help but scoff at that, toying with the corner of the large grey shirt donned on your body. Jeongguk’s shirt. One of his favourites actually. You’d thought about stealing it after spying it on his obsessively neat laundry pile, but after seeing your wandering eyes he’d given it to you instead. 
“He always does that,” you’d said after Chayoung had whipped her head in your direction, curved eyebrows perplexed. “I mean, shut down. It’s his emotional response to things that bother him. Complete detachment so it hurts less.”
She had just stared at you, a long meaningful look at left your skin prickled. 
“Huh.”
“What do you mean ‘huh’?”
A measured step forward, her body weight sinking into the edge of your mattress a moment later. “I mean, you know him so well.”
“Of course I do he’s my best-friend,” you’d said, indignation coating your words
“No–No you're not getting me. You know him. You know he wouldn’t make the move to reconcile–”
“But he should!”
“You told him to go away! He’s trying to listen to you even though he’s hurting!”
And maybe that was it, that simple implication that you were causing him pain that had you pausing, reviewing the things you’d said to him – the things you’d felt. 
“But,” a timid rebuttal, “I just–I just need him to show me that he cares.”
“He does,” Chayoung had returned. “So much. And he misses you. He’s probably just afraid that you don’t feel the same.”
“But I do! He knows this.”
“Does he?” A question in her eyes, one that you’re afraid you know the honest answer to. 
You say things and never mean them, he had said, eyes hard.
That had hurt you but perhaps he was right, there are things you hadn’t told him, feelings you hadn’t truly expressed. And Jeongguk had always been good to you, so understanding and caring, trying to fill the places were you lacked. Wasn’t he the one who planned the majority of your dates? Remembered all the important milestones of your relationship while you contributed the bare minimum. You hadn’t even told Chayoung about the surprise he had planned for your one-year anniversary, the shame of your own choice hanging heavy over your head. 
So that’s why you’re here, staring at the back of his head forlornly as the music drifts around you, flashing florescent lights bathing him a hazy glory. He hasn’t seen you yet (something you’re thankful for because oddly enough you feel sick to your stomach). It feels like you’re skating on thin ice, waiting for the impending crack to sound through your heart, ice water swallowing you whole immediately. Chayoung is the one who pushes you forward, gingerly plucking the idle drink from your hand, Jimin aiding her efforts with a soft smile your way. 
It’s time for you to try the way Jeongguk has, put aside that bumbling ego that oversees your actions and adopt the humility he’s always granted you.
“Go,” she murmurs. “He misses you.”
And God you hope he does because you’ve missed him too. 
Except the moment his honey eyes land on you you know he hasn’t.
“Jeongguk,” you mumble. Yoonoh is frozen beside him, concerned gaze flicking between your faces. Your own eyes are stuck on him, the shape of his nose, the curve of his lips, the subtle hint of the dimple in his cheeks. 
You’ve missed him, and it slips from your heart and brims in your eyes, vision blurry as your blink those stray tears back inside. 
“Hi,” you add, when his silence doesn’t break.
“I should probably go,” Yoonoh lets out, awkward words bumping into the wall of tension standing firm between you to. He settles a hand on Jeongguk’s shoulder, sending him a look that feels loaded. “See you guys later, right?”
You nod, finally noticing the lump clogging your throat. “Yeah, sure.” Jeongguk just hums, the edge of his cup caught between his lips. Yoonoh flees within seconds, leaving you to wade through this alone. 
“I–I know you’re not happy with me right now, but please, can we just talk?” He blinks at you, it feels like a premonition. “Please?”
“Okay.” The simple word fills you, like a hollow you weren’t aware of finally found the cure needed. 
“Okay,” a small smile on your lips. Jeongguk’s face is still unreadable. He guides you up and away from the deafening sound of the song bleeding from the speakers, into an empty room, the door closing behind him muting the music and giving way to the own pounding in your head. Nobody says anything for a second, both of you navigating this uncharted territory of animosity. Until Jeongguk sighs, melting into the bed at the centre of the room. You follow suit, allocating enough space between the two of you. You’ve ever had to do that before.
“You said you wanted to talk?” Jeongguk finally cuts through it, eyes unforgiving when he glances at you.
“I did! I do–Just Jeongguk,” you can’t help it drifting out. “I miss you.”
Nothing, not even a flicker in his eyes. He eyes shift to the floor instead. “Okay. I that what you wanted to say?”
“No–No not just that! I’ve missed you Jeongguk and I’m sorry. I’m sorry that i went off on you like that and I’m sorry I haven’t been the best towards you and I’m sorry that I’ve made you feel like I didn’t care about you–or made you feel like the things I said or did had no meaning behind them. Because they do–they do because I love you. I love you so so much and I’m sorry if I made it seem like otherwise.” You automatically extend out for him, hoping to grasp on his thing floating to fast away from you. Jeongguk shifts and you hand tumbles down to the empty space between you instead, halted by his hesitance. 
His head drops into his palms a second later, a broken exhale leaving his lips. The motion cause the silver bracelet on his wrist to slip down the length of his arm. It jolts something in you. Jeongguk had given you a matching one but you’d ripped it off after the last argument and hadn’t considered putting it back on. But Jeongguk was still wearing his. 
“Do you really?”
“What?” He’s staring at you know, doe eyes cloudy.
“Do you really love me?” There, that stupid evil vile question that you thought you had the answer to but the words vanish in your head the longer he looks at you.
“I do–what? What are you implying? Of course, I do.”
“Of course, you do,” Jeongguk echoes. His eyes turn to the window located over his shoulder. You can see his head working through something, and you’re suddenly terrified fingertips itching to wander through his curls and coax those thoughts from his head. 
“Jeongguk? What the hell are you talking about? Talk to me, please.”
He sighs again, at it feels like your heart splinters. A sudden shake of his head and Jeongguk twists back to face you, a silent tear falling down his cheek.
“You don’t love me.”
“Wh–What are you talking about? I do! And how can you decide my feelings for me?”
“No. You don’t love me the way you think you do–the way you should.” It feels like he’s saying it to more than you, like he’s saying it to himself. “Maybe this the wrong choice to make. You know. Maybe we shouldn’t have done this.”
You shatter just like that, shards on the floor as you stare him, this person that you thought you knew. And maybe the feeling is mutual because Jeongguk is staring at you in a similar way, searching for the courage to say the words you know lie in his heart. Like a loaded cannon, waiting for the match to strike and leave you lying in pieces. 
“I think we should break–"
“No,” you cut him off with an adamance that you didn’t know existed until right then. “No, you’re not gonna say that and we are not doing this.”
His eyes narrow then, jaw set. “This is not about ‘us’, I’m doing what’s right for me.”
“How is that right? Huh, Jeongguk? Don’t you care about this? Don’t you care about me?”
He looks away then, ignoring your questions, his throat stuck. 
“Jeongguk...” You reach out again, and he allows it, shoulders sinking with the weight of your hand on them. “Don’t you care about me?”
Another heavy exhale, his eyes blinking hard. “I do. And that’s why this won’t work, not the way it should at least. I really think we should end this, or at least reconsider the reasons why we’re together. You say you love me–you say you always have but really–really think about it. About me and us and what we are. I’m sorry, I really am but I just can’t do this anymore.”
He rises then, your outstretched hand tumbling down to the empty space he’d left behind. You can’t move it, can’t breathe, your heart hurtling out of your chest and onto the ground where it lies, fragmented beyond repair and bleeding bare. You glance up through tears, watch him open his mouth and then it and look away. 
“Do you mean it?” You finally ask, and his eyes snap to you. He knows what you’re saying. There’s a pause that stretches out for eternity, coloured by the sound of the ringing in your head.
“Maybe.” It cuts right through you, lodging itself deep with intent. And then you just have to nod, swallow the scream clawing at your throat. He murmurs one more apology before his feet carry him away, and you watch, forlorn as you burn his frame into your memory, as your whole world walks out the door.
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terrainofheartfelt · 2 years
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Serena uploading Blair’s diary entries to the Gossip Girl laptop was one thing (shitty, but maybe forgivable given that she didn’t actually intend to upload them and was Going Through It at the time), but what she did in 5x24 at the Campbell divorce party was something else entirely. Ignoring the dubious consent issues of Serena sleeping with a drunk Dan who wasn’t aware he was being set up or filmed (mega yikes), Serena intentionally set the scene to recreate one of the worst formative moments of Blair’s life. So many of Blair’s insecurities about herself and her relationships stem from Nate cheating on her with Serena on that fucking bar, to the point that it was STILL affecting her in the present day - we’re shown in season 6 that she still doesn’t fully believe that anyone could truly get over Serena, which is part of the reason she decided to get back together with Chuck. For Serena to purposely exploit those insecurities, to force Blair to relive that moment just because she’s mad at her for kicking her out? It’s indefensible. As much as I feel like the whole thing was majorly OOC, if we are considering it canon, then I don’t think Serena deserved to be forgiven by Blair at all - it really should have been the end of their friendship, as shitty as that would have been. But I just don’t see how anyone could get over their best friend doing something so intentionally malicious to them, y’know?
(And again, that’s without even acknowledging the impact that being taken advantage of in such an intimate way must have had on Dan!)
Oohf so I am trying to answer some asks today and I’ve left this sitting for a while because it requires many spoons and mine have all…been in the sink or something. 
And yeah as you have I am going to put the Serena & Dan of it all (mostly) to the side bc it is SO egregious and I am not trying to justify what Serena does because it is awful 
But because you’re bringing this back to Blairena, let’s take it there. 
I’m actually glad I put answering this on hold bc now I can refer you to this excellent piece of meta by Jo. And it really does all come back to 1x04 doesn’t it? Blair thinks she’ll never be enough, but Serena just is, for that fact that she exists — and that’s not Serena’s fault, it’s just who she is, so it has to be Blair’s fault. 
Ok wow I am making myself sad so like, when you frame the relationship this way, it just gives the s5 finale that much more power to hurt you, because Blair has spent her whole life reconciling with how she’s Too Much and Not Enough at the same time, and she finally reaches a moment of arrival with “Dan loves me for me,” bc she doesn’t have to do that math with him anymore. But then, in her eyes, (not what I think was actually happening in this moment in my own reading) Serena takes another person from her, because that’s who she is. And it’s the narrative, right? The story that Blair, more than any of the other mains, except maybe chip, has known how the story is supposed to end. And here it has. And then it adds this extra layer of her going back to chip: she’s never enough, but he hasn’t made that a secret really. The devil you know. Meanwhile Dan is grappling with his own issues of Never Being Enough and Always Being Too Much and gossip!Serena (#notmyserena) captures them both at their weakest moment and confirms their respective fears at the same time. God that is some shakespearean shit. Gossip! Girl! Is! A! Tragedy! 
As for Blairena in the post s5 economy…I’ve been thinking about it a lot, it’s the next knot I’m trying to untangle in my post s5 au. the wounds they have inflicted on each other are so severe, but narratively, I still want them to love each other. So, I guess I’m suspending my disbelief a little bit for the sake of the fiction (which I think is fine! it’s a good thing in media!). And there’s is a friendship that is built for fiction. It’s the true Mythic Relationship of the show, the deep deep love they have for each other counterweighted by the deep deep loathing they have for their own selves, and constantly colliding and revolving and thriving and surviving and destroying each other. 
But with all of that, narratively speaking, they still need each other. 
So, it reads very homoerotic and romantic—which is valid, but if I may broker a pretentious cringe comparison born of another fandom obsession: I’ve always kind of thought of Blairena’s friendship as comparable to the notion of parabatai that is in Cassandra Clare’s Shadowhunter Chronicles Series (I know, I know just let me go there for a sec). So, leaving all the magic and warrior cult context of this fantasy series aside, the parabatai relationship is like a deep, binding platonic devotional bond between two people. They are tied together by faith and ritual, from childhood (that’s actually an important point in these books), a very specific kind of soulmate. Clare uses the ancient greek delineations of love to describe it philia (friendship, brotherly love) & agape (selfless universal love) but not necessarily eros (erotic and/or romantic – for the purposes of this illustration – love). She also references the biblical story of Ruth and Naomi “thy people shall be my people / thy god my god…where thou diest, I shall die, and there they shall bury me” etc etc. I don’t want to get to into it (because I will if I let myself, but this is all just to say, I don’t think the world would spin right if these two were to be estranged forever. They are bonded together, by their shared childhoods, shared traumas, the way they carried each other through their adolescence. The red string of fate is tying them together by their pinky swears.
So I don’t want the friendship to end, but I do think it needs to be given space. In calling back to my au, Mouthful of Forevers, that’s what I’ve done so far. To heal, they absolutely have to be apart for a while, Blair moves to France, Serena starts traveling, yadiyadiyadda. It’s distance that they needed probably since the Pink Party. To grow into themselves, so that when they next see other and really talk, they know enough about their own self that they aren’t threatened by the strength and self-actualization that their best friend now happens, the growth has to happen separately, or it won’t last. 
Which also comes back to 1x04 (shocker), and the way they define themselves in opposition to the other. Because, in this world of wealth they grew up in, they were taught to believe in scarcity. If she has this, that means that I can’t have it too. If Serena is good, then I am bad. If Blair is smart, then I am foolish. If I love her, then I can’t love me. If he loves her, then he cannot love me. If he loves me, he can’t, because who will love her? 
It’s a theological principle my dad and I have talked about (I know, let it go there) the gospel of scarcity vs the gospel of plenty. Ultimately, the gospel of scarcity is a fallacy. There is enough. These girls have enough love within them to give to each other and to themselves. There is enough in the world for them to both be happy. One does not need to tear herself apart to save the other, and she doesn’t need to tear the other apart to save herself. And they have to learn that by being apart for a while, and build a happiness that is outside of their friendship, so that they know when they come back together, that life isn’t going to go away in the presence of the other’s happiness. 
I think what Dan and Serena’s friendship looks like in the aftermath is a whole other post, but I’ll say this: the way he and Serena are tied together is different, because they met at a different point in their lives and to a different end, so I don’t know if Serena’s betrayal of him is worse (given the history she and Blair have) but I think Dan feels it more keenly, and has less qualms about cutting Serena out of his life than Blair would have. Which is also something I am trying to tackle in MoF, once I get back to writing it. It’s all incubating right now while I’m working on the P&P au, but here, have a snippet: 
She had been staring out the window, gazing at the Alps on the other side of the glass, Dan’s head pillowed in her lap while he talked. 
I think – he’d said, After it first happened, I thought it was something we had done together, but the further I get away from it, the more I think she was using me. And I don’t – I don’t know what to do with that.
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cubedmango · 2 years
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u know what fuck it . ive already had 3 kind of accurate predictions so im gonna throw one last very wishful thinking inspired prediction out into the world for the last ep . if the universe is kind it will make my hopes happen and if not then. i will go lie down in a ditch and cry i guess (under the cut bc wow this got a bit long)
patpran Do break up for realsies. no fakery or going back to secret dating or anything. they decide that the times just not right for them, and that if they can only have either their relationship or their familys support, they need the latter more
the scene of them telling their parents Does happen . they Do react like the shit parents they are. hate to say this but its extremely in-character for them its very real so
they announce said break up to everyone at uni. they all think theyre joking or had some fight while they were gone. maybe here patpran explain their full history to their friends (if they havent already)??? anyways none of them are happy about this
insert extremely sad snippets of them just watching each other from afar or looking at the guitar/watch/pick/shirt/earphones/god theyve shared so much shit help with painful yearning . everyone notices
the time skip is Not Real. either some kind of what-if scenario or a dream/daydream/nightmare sequence most likely thought up by pat, imagining them staying away from each other all those years. the reunion part is him yearning and hoping they can get back together one day because of Course he’d want that
irl though, perhaps like a montage of patpran having different demeanors around their family?? like them just Not acting the same as before, being less energetic, less responsive, etc, and here is when parents start to get concerned
maybe the separation reaching a breaking point, with pat or pran (or both) snapping at their parents like “i/we already broke up for your sake, what more do you want from me/us?” after a long time of just bottling up the issue and not bringing it up
somewhere, pran saving pa as kids finally being brought up?? possibly by pa herself whos now ready to talk about it???? just pa also having enough of their parents acting like little children and making her brother and the person who’s literally the reason she’s even alive rn both miserable
the friends could step in as well, tell them about just how different patpran have been recently after the break up?? would love it if wai told dissaya something about pran during boarding school and how shaken he was then because of the sudden transfer that she caused, and korn talking about how just. Mad pat used to be at everything and causing unnecessary fights. or something!! many possibilities
ming and dissaya (and the other two too) finally having that moment of realization of “Oh. We’re Actually Hurting Our Kids By Being The Way That We Are” and possibly even doing something about it? shockingly?? wow
and then something something the parents having A Lengthy Talk and deciding to either reconcile (not likely i think lol but would be sweet) or to at least be civil towards each other for their sons’ sake, coming to a truce to put their past behind them from there onwards or to at least no longer force their own views onto the boys
both parents apologizing to their kids for everything because i am a tired asian who just wants to see some fictional parents admit their fault For Once !!! if nothing else this is the one thing id want to manifest in the ep
and then ummmm. scene of them asking patpran to meet them together and (cries) telling them that theyre ok with it if theyre dating and (sobs) and that theyd support them and (wails) and
yeah and then like . real montage of how things Actually end for them w them getting back together and really going to the reunion together and graduating and . Just Being Happy!!!! they deserve it!!!!!! maybe a hint to s2 with inkpa or waikorn crumbs and thats it thats the ending thanks for coming to my tedtalk
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hey idk if you'd entertain cross campaign shipping questions or would not but im kinda curious. and this isn't really a shipping question as much as a character reading question. anyway do you think beau would be interested in any of the ladies in bell's hells? bc i'm having a tough time imagining her hitting on any of them tbh lol what do you think?
Sure, I will entertain them! We love beau, chaotic witches, and wlw here
...and meta... and conjecture for the sake of fun
I mean thinking about the qualities they all have at first glance: they are all tall, beautiful, chaotic and intimidating.
I don't think she'd be cowed at all and is definitely very into tall, beautiful, intimidating women lol. As for the chaotic aspect, she was Chaos Crew and into Jester, who is probably the one that matches the BHs chaos level the most, so that wouldn't be an issue for her either.
So I honestly think she would hit on all of them right away and at once LMAO
But here's what I think of if she'd be actually into them after a while of knowing them:
Imogen: I can definitely see Beau being into Imogen because she was into how mysterious and stoic Yasha was, and we know Beau loves solving mysteries lol— but no really she would love helping her research her past since she's so good at that, and could also help her get access to books/records etc. (Cobalt Soul do have a satellite archive in Ank'harel!) so that is an avenue to connect for them.
She would also be very emotionally supportive if Imogen needed that (just thinking about the nightmares and breaking down after) which is another way I see them connecting. That probably just comes from Marisha being a lovely caring person! Since Laudna is very supportive of Imogen.
Imogen is also definitely one of the voices of reason in Bell's Hells, and so is Beau in TM9 (to a certain extent), so another point of connection there— but the real question is would Imogen be into her? I don't know lol, she has Laudna (and that has got to be at least a QPR, right?) and she seems very no nonsense and single minded about her goal right now, and she's very guarded.
Fearne: Beau is inevitably very charmed by her (because who wouldn't be) but perhaps would be too suspicious of her since Beau would be one of the first to catch her lying or stealing or fucking around. She may think it's fun eventually if they do it together (Chaos Crew 2.0 let's go!!!!) and I can see Beau being into the mysterious aspects of Fearne, although the lying + stealing + mystery may be too much for her to be trusted.
Would Fearne be into Beau? I think so? Would definitely flirt or be charming to get her way at some point. Fearne gives off that energy like she is into everyone and no one all at once lol
Laudna: I have no idea lmao, I've been trying to think about it for like 30 minutes but having a hard time reconciling it since both charas are Marisha lmao, but I think she'd probably be like "ohhhkay weirdo" OR "fuck yeah weirdo!" (or both) in general with regards to her, and she'd also think Laudna is very sweet tbh.
I think she may be too suspicious for her though. The fact that things don't reeeeally add up about her past and that she has voices in her head she talks to? (and you know, that she's literally dead) I can imagine Beau being cautious around her and being like "No one is worried that she's dead?? I'm sorry why are we all acting normal about this" and then she would want to solve the mystery ofc lmao
Laudna to Beau? Naaaaaah, Imogen is her Number 1
There ya go!
(Oh man now I want Jester to go party and have pastries with the witches)
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I love your takes so i wondered what are your thoughts about He Who Remains offering Loki and Sylvie his power?
In my opinion, this was a deception which is symbolized by Kang eating an apple. He and Miss Minutes tempt Loki and Sylvie by offering them their hearts' greatest desires: being together and power. While Loki had the good intentions at heart, i think he is Eve in this scenario, however, Sylvie is no Adam. Kang miscalculated one thing: Sylvie hates power because the authority is what made her life miserable, she won't take this job because she thinks the system itself is evil. She does not care about tormenting Kang or The TVA or creating the worlds to her liking, she wants the justice, revenge and this fascism to end.
I don't think that killing Kang was a mistake even if the chaos followed, i believe that's what the universes have to go through in order to resolve the whole multiverse problem once and for all, because while the many bad variants are no good, the authoritarian regime obliterating many innocents for the sake of the few is no better. Sorry for a long ask! 💚🗡
hi!!! dhsjdhdjs thank you sm for the compliment, I'm happy you like my takes on stuff!!
ok this is kinda fun for me bc I am a Christian, so I definitely pick up on the imagery and themes and it's pretty interesting how they used that?? (also the free will/determinism discussion is much fun for me bc I can be a bit of a theology nerd dhsjsjssksj)
I don't have a whole lot to add to what you said, except just that you're,,, very right. I dunno if I can get into the free will vs/and determinism stuff without it sounding massively unhinged and only making sense to my theology mutuals (@ontologicalmoki @kayliebooks @ the rest of the knitting circle hiiiiiiiiii) but it is a very interesting concept within the show, because it's very... black and white?? like my belief is that, somewhat paradoxically, both can coexist. can't really explain that one without faith, but yeah. and the Loki series takes a very "one or the other" stance BECAUSE the person doing the determining isn't actually God — so of course HWR's taking away of free will (and I would argue that there *was* still free will even with him around, @fortes-fortuna-iogurtum said something about this a while ago but I forget how she put it shjdjsks) isn't right or reconcileable!
your last paragraph is the one that stands out to me tbh, because like... I mean this is obviously fiction so I'm not taking it as anything with actual moral weight, ya know, but I don't think killing HWR was either wrong *or* necessarily right, either? the timelines were freed before Sylvie killed him. the threshold had been crossed and the timelines were all splitting anyway (which is something I think a lot of people miss??? idk but it seems very clear to me when I watch the episode); at that point it wasn't about free will, and really, was it ever?
like YES 100% that is Sylvie's beliefs and she HATES what the TVA does and what HWR was perpetuating and she is RIGHT bc no one should ever have that kind of thing down to them, but her end goal wasn't, ultimately come right down to it, about that ideal and that freedom for everyone else. it was personal — it was ALWAYS personal to her, she says that herself — and it was about killing the man who, by virtue of his position, took everything from her.
(an aside in two parts: number one, that i would argue that the far more personal side is between Sylvie and Ravonna. Ravonna is, after all, very very directly — more directly even than HWR, despite him orchestrating everything — the person who stole Sylvie from her life and her life from her. Ravonna is the one with a pretty clear vendetta and who very personally hates Sylvie. HWR actually doesn't seem to dislike her, which is mildly funny tbh, but Ravonna? H A T E S Sylvie. imo I feel like that's the more revenge-worthy side of it tbh, because directly and personally Ravonna is the one who took everything Sylvie ever cared about and who ever cared about her — including Loki, at the end of ep4!!! — from her.
secondly: HWR says that it isn't personal; yet, as a matter of fact, he's intentionally orchestrated everything just to get Sylvie and Loki to the Citadel. sounds pretty personal to me tbh. and like yeah I know he's Not a good dude and he's Very Much Not above lying but that's... interesting to me?? because he's obviously manipulating the situation and I think he wants to cause a schism between Loki and Sylvie. he sees the way they're magnetized to each other and almost immediately starts planting seeds of doubt for Sylvie: "you really think you can trust this guy?" etc. BUT THE THING IS that he says that bit about it not being personal, even though it actually is personal on some level, and I wonder if that wasn't just to make Sylvie angrier? like... he's kinda playing with her, in the worst way. and I think he wants her to be a little bit unhinged, if only because her desperation and hurt and anger is entertaining for him or because of some purpose he may have for it, idk.)
Sylvie's justification for killing HWR (aside from the fact that she doesn't have any qualms about killing in general) is entirely wrapped up in her own vindication. she wants her right to exist and she wants revenge for what's been taken from her. she's made her entire purpose and identity about this, because what else did she have to build herself on? her entire mission and so much of her identity is very negative-focused: she is AGAINST the TVA and HWR. but the question is (and I very much hope the second season will delve into this), what is she FOR? who is she with that mission behind her and what does she fight for instead of simply the things she fights against, if that makes sense.
so like, yeah, I think that that was what was meant to happen. the multiverse was always gonna break free; there was a clear threshold and even HWR knew that. the thing with setting it up to get Sylvie and Loki there was that he wanted them to take over, which neither of them wanted (rightly!!). this is what idk if people actually *get*: it was always going to happen. there's no other way it could go; the timelines were always going to break free. there's not a thing anyone — HWR, Loki or Sylvie or both of them, even the TVA as one massive whole — could have done. someone/thing that is not God cannot, in the long run, fill God's role.
and honestly??? I think that's a really dang interesting angle to write a TV show on.
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hiii icha!!! a very quick ask tonight (my time) lol. I’ve emerged from the cave of exams only to have… well I still have more exams. but I did take some time to chill and go thru the blazing beachside passion event! i was soooo hype when I realized it was gonna be muku juza centric like FUCK YEAH!!! we did not get nearly enough of that in the main autumn troupe story and like I get why but I’m rly glad they’re delivering here. side note I was rly glad masumi was not a part of this event lol bc it meant that the beach episode was like. normal. ummm but let’s see. I flinched at the shirtless sprites bc I was like guys. that’s hot oil. ur gonna get burned. think it may be bc today I like made enough stir fry to feed 10 people dinner lol. overall I thought this event was real sweet tho! muku as a prince and juza as his knight was a very good pairing—feel like muku specifically would appreciate that kinda setting, yknow? as always tho I have so many Feelings abt juza and this event just made me have more Feelings… he is so <3 like something abt juza makes me want to pat his head I think. like even the way when he’s like not opening up abt why he’s uncomfy with muku and tasuku is like “you trying to start a fight with us with that glare?” I was like jumping out of my seat yelling like “tasuku!!! that’s juza’s UPSET face!!!!” I feel like that’s a really common problem with juza through like so often he is feeling like. Sad or Shy or something like it and ppl interpret it as him being scary which is like. man I get why he’s so reluctant to open up yknow? and I wonder if that’s specifically why juza might gravitate to acting, out of all things—if he’s scary and intense without meaning to… well, acting is all abt projecting certain feelings emotions ideas forth right? it’s all an art of making the audience perceive u in the right way. which is something that I think juza doesn’t quite feel in his day to day life so I like to think acting helps him in that regard… hm. honestly I think I have more Thoughts About Juza than thoughts abt this event in specific lol? tasuku being so blunt with him made me smile tho, it feels like very in character that after being literally forced into a time loop so that the only way out was to reconcile with tsumugi he’d be kinda blunt abt conflict resolution right? speaking of juza I really love his casual sprite like so much bc the posing is just very. it gives this sense of cool aloofness but when u look at it u can also interpret it as him being shy and reserved and I think it like communicates that duality well? hm yeah. muku and juza were cute tho. i think it’s interesting how they both feel the other is like “too cool” for them so they feel inadequate when the communicate with each other… it’s rly interesting bc like it’s not really one person’s fault there i think? anddd closing notes I thought the mention of kyuchan/ku was nice—clearly the story’s prepping for kumon in act 2, AND like I feel with the “citronia” at the end of clockwork heart runaway royalty citron is pretty much confirmed but I’m still so happy that my small theory from Alex in wonderland is shaping up to be correct with like the “for muku’s sake, I had to play the role of a king! it was so unpleasant.” like yesssss. yesss that’s what I want! i also wish since kazunari’s nickname for tasuku is localized as “tax” they could make a joke abt him being a taxi. since he does get roped into this beach trip bc he has a car and can drive lmao. also citron saying smthing was a catwalk and being corrected to cakewalk genuinely shook me bc I thought catwalk was correct… that’s all!
HELLO FRIEND!!! it's so good to see you again
First of all, good luck through your exams, i hope you can manage through it and have a good time still :( and i especially hope you manage to find some time to rest. I am cheering for you so hard o7
Second, you have a TIMING, i was litterally talking about this event to a friend just yesterday evening. I woke up to your ask and i was puzzled for one minute like "wait WHO did i talk about this event TO yesterday" it's incredible.
BUT YEAH FUCK YEAH BLAZING BEACHSIDE PASSION! With how much you love Juza this one must have been a little pearl.
putting under cut bc it's getting long enough as it is DLKJFDLKJF
"I flinched at the shirtless sprites bc I was like guys. that’s hot oil. ur gonna get burned." fun fact, it actually happens in SR!Omi's backstage ( [Omi's House is Now Open!] - "Incident at Omi's House" if you're reading on the Archive). He gets burnt because of the oil and Izumi has to take care of him while he keeps brushing his own pain off, it's very Omi like. (speaking of backstage if you have time/energy for it, Citron's R for this event, [A Chilling Watermelon Split] - "Thrilling Watermelon Split" , is a SIGHT. I love when Citron gets murdery.)
So really you're right and they should all know better, especially you Omi, but i guess the fact it's Omi "i don't take care of myself" Fushimi monitoring the whole group may have added some issues on the careless department.
Anyway the event was great and i agree with you so much! honestly, the play made me cRY. I think it's peak Tasuku to basically talk about processing your emotions via acting and yknow what, it's helping Juza plenty, so good for him, and the play itself was just so soft. The setting of Muku as prince and Juza as the knight was so good and represent them both so well.
AND YEAH HELP, so, when i first read this event i didn't care much for Tasuku so during that scene i was just "wtf is your problem dude", but now that i Understand:tm: him i'm just, oh yeah the guy is just super blunt because he gotta expose what the main misunderstanding is and hope the person in front of him is going to at least do something to clear it if he is to help through it. Learning from Winter! in a way. But me gushing about Tasuku aside (me?? about /winter/???? This is so out of character), i agree that still it's just that It's How Juza is TwT like, Tasuku has no reason to know that he doesn't specifically hang out with him, but like. That's the issue poor Juza's facial expression get misinterpreted all the time!! Tho i think it's really a feat that we, as the audience, can now interpret Juza so well in comparaison. He's just trying so hard TwT
"and I wonder if that’s specifically why juza might gravitate to acting, out of all things—if he’s scary and intense without meaning to… well, acting is all abt projecting certain feelings emotions ideas forth right? it’s all an art of making the audience perceive u in the right way. which is something that I think juza doesn’t quite feel in his day to day life so I like to think acting helps him in that regard…" yes yes yes completely yes, it's about Juza reclaiming how people perceive him, while also learning how to make himself clearer, and, like, i don't think he expected it but it also means people are more used to his actual bodylanguage from working with him which means that it's not just about how he can work through it but how other people are doing the effort to understand him too. It's really so good.
The Tasuku's mention lmao yes this is exactly it. Man has been caught into One (1) Timeloop and just decided to not let building resentment happen again god bless this mass of muscles.
Also agreed on Juza's sprite i really love the dynamic of this one and you're really right about the duality.
and yeah i'm all with you, i really like the Muku and Juza dynamic and the way they both inspire each other and also intimidate each other? Honestly i can't blame Muku for the way he misinterpreted Juza because i feel like his Rejection reaction is just off the charts and he himself has a hard time really figuring out Juza's bodylanguage since he basically go back to thinking he's at fault there (and tbh i feel like, the fact as cousins it's likely Muku always saw Juza with Kumon there was a contrast in personality that made Muku think it was a Him Problem rather than a Juza problem), and i can't blame Juza for struggling to explain himself especially with how people just generally interpret him. But i'm just so happy they both managed to discuss it finally and that they're able to see how much they misunderstood and how much they care for each other.
Also YEAH the Kumon's build was honestly so soft. I genuinely love how the rookies are built up in act 1, i remember getting so excited when this event first came out.
FOR CITRON YES YES YES, god I LOVE Citron in this event. Like i talked about Tasuku because of course but i genuinely think Citron is doing so much like. Like!!! Citron is always going the extra mile for Muku in general, you feel that he's extremely protective of him and that he'd be willing to do anything for this kid. The fact he got really upset at being casted as a King in Alex in Wonderland, yet now is most likely the one who prompted the scenario because he knows how much being a Prince matter to Muku and you know what. If Muku wants royalty, Citron is going to give him the best one he can give him, no matter his own feelings about it. It's genuinely sweet. idk there's just something about the way Citron doesn't even complain and probably just prompt it because he is so invested in making the situation better that just makes me soft. (Citron/Tasuku being driving force about solving a misunderstanding situation tho. muah.) But yeah of course i won't say much about Citron's arc but :3c i do love how the build up is consistant there and honestly it makes it very rewarding when you catch on to it early, which you did which is great :3c
YOU'rE SO RIGHT ABOUT THE TAX NICKNAME… between being the taxi for everyone AND the fact he's constantly carrying Hisoka around, Tasuku should embrace the nickname. "Yo "Taxi" isn't writen on my forhead" while he's carrying Hisoka on his back would be a hilarious situation for everyone else to go "well. actually." and him realizing he's doomed either way.
OH YEAH OMG THE CATWALK TOO i also thought it was catwalk, weirdly enough? like, in French went we say something was easy we do say stuff like "it was a piece of cake" so i understood the idea of cakewalk in a way, but i didn't really see where the walk came from dLFKJDF meanwhile the idea of Citron managing his way through a catwalk in an "easy" way felt so Citron that i didn't question it. Like, yeah of course being on a catwalk is a piece of cake for Citron, have you SEEN Him?? the guy looks like he belongs anywhere that could put his beauty forward. But now that i think about it for normal people Catwalk probably come with more stress than Citron probably implied. Still, cakewalk…
I remember really loving this event, i loved the Muku and Juza arc and i loved the Citron bits, and upon reread i really loved the Tasuku ones too. He acts so grumpy the whole time like he didn't want to be dragged into it but he still gives his everything for everyone around him and that's genuinely soft. I also remember getting soft that he keeps track of the silly things Citron says (there's a scene just before they leave Mankai where Citron is being overdramatic, and Tasuku rolls his eyes, but then Citron refers to it again later by saying something completely different and Tasuku is just "didn't you say it was /that/ instead". King of "i'm dealing with Arisugawa everyday, i will keep of your silliness against my will i'm programmed to do that now".)
In the end i don't have much to say about Omi and Kazu despite loving the fact Omi is probably the one Juza has more reasons to be comfortable around so he can open up more easily (and that i do love that it follows up on the two of them becoming biker buddies like man. Omi i hope you live it well.), and Kazu is mostly here for the hype squad and driving Tasuku more crazy in the car with Citron and Muku but we love that about him.
This event was really good and the feelies were incredible.
Thank you once again for being back at it on my inbox <3 it's always a pleasure to see your rambles and impression on stuff, i love the things you catch and focus on! And i love thinking back about my sweet sons, they're all so great.
A pleasure to see you, and good luck with your exams still :3c
Take care!
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1. This fucking quote:
" Our lives are not like the glamorous ones we read about in books. People don’t love each other because they can’t control it, they love each other because they can. I can want and choose to love you, but I can’t choose to make it enough"
Is actually wonderful, I litteraly want to fucking print aaaah i love it so much.
2. This chapter felt so heartfelt and honnestly I'm glad to see how much the reader has grown during those past chapters. Very proud of her !!!
3. The yearning between them is making me lose my mind omg you're a genius.
4. I want to read everything you ever write bc your style is beautiful
🥺❤️
When people tell me their fav quote from the chapter,,, serotonin,,,, in my brain,,, increases,,,
ALSO if anyone wanted to make prints of my work I would totally be down provided they include a link to the fic in the description and also a link to the product so I can buy it LMAO. But in all seriousness the fact you would even think of hanging some type of physical copt of something I wrote makes me all 💓
Thank you for reading + enjoying! I think you’re right, the reader has grown and we’re seeing her knowing how to express her regrets, when to defend herself, and how to respect Loki’s boundaries. 
And the yearning... this is a special type of yearning because they’re not holding back for each other’s sakes they’re holding back for their own. Like, they want to reconcile and touch and hold each other SO MUCH but their fear of both hurting and being hurt forces them to hold themselves back and second guess everything. It’s messy, but I think they’re doing pretty well so far. 
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lizacstuff · 3 years
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SCK episode 46 asks!
Hi folks, below the read more you'll find a smattering of asks about this week's episode as well as a few spoilers for 47.
Good asks this week:
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Anonymous asked: this may be superficial of me, but why are they dressing Serkan in such ugly tops? they finally brought Eda's hair back but now this
BWAH! You're not wrong. You know what I'm wondering, if they've put him in some of those outfits because they are showing his suburban dad side? It's kind of a subtle nod to him embracing father hood and a different way of life? He's now all about running around the yard after his daughter and not about what he looks like when he's being SERKAN BOLAT, FAMOUS BUSINESS MAN and WORLD'S BEST ARCHITECT.
Also, Eda's hair, thank goodness they let that go once the flashbacks were over and we didn't need something to distinguish between then and now! Those curly bangs were not it.
Anonymous asked: They built up the Edser chemistry soooooo well throughout the episode... for that ending? Who decided to cut it there?! The scene was BEAUTIFUL I’m actually upset lol. are not we going to see any more? I’m not asking for a sex scene, I wanted to see THE moment they decided to get back together (the tattoo line doesn’t do it for me) - a few words, tears as they embrace, him walking through the door as she closes it, one passionate kiss, something! But it doesn’t feel like a cliffhanger that continues next week. I’ll be so underwhelmed when they cut to the morning after and we have to infer that they got back together overnight *sigh* if they were allowed 1 kiss only, id rather it have been here instead of ep 2
We do deserve to see how they reconcile, that should be one of the biggest moments of the season after 7 episodes of build up to it.
90% of final scenes in this show have continued uninterrupted the next week. To me there's no reason to think the next episode won't pick up right where this one left off. Crossing fingers!
Anonymous asked: It just hit me that Serkan is the “Kiraz” for Kemal - but Kemal actually missed his child’s whole 35 years 😬 this is an interesting turn of events. Also that line Serkan said about how fathers should love their child’s mother and how he didn’t have that with his own parents....but his real dad does love Aydan, more than she deserves haha.
Oh so true! Kemal really does love his mother more than she deserves! How he puts up with her, I don't know.
The parallel between Serkan/Kemal and Kiraz/Serkan is strong and I hope it gives Serkan some perspective when he starts grappling with this knowledge. I'm sure it's going to be very disconcerting for him, because while he expected to never see his father again, Alptekin is still his father. He's still the man who raised him and formed him into the man he is. Serkan still runs the company he founded and bears his name.
I don't expect any of that to change, but hopefully he can forge a separate relationship with Kemal that might fill some emotional holes that he has and bring him some peace.
None of that even contemplates how Kemal will feel, thankfully Aydan didn't willfully hide the truth from him. How awful to realize you lost 35 years.
We aren't there yet, but I wonder at what age with Kiraz learn the truth, that her dad is not an astronaut, that her parents went through hell with with cancer and plane crashes, and that her father didn't know of her existence until right before they met?
Just something to think about.
Anonymous asked: i'm so happy for hanker, don't get me wrong, and i'm also so happy we get "together" edser for so many episodes until the end, but i'm already tired of the constant "hanker improvising" comments i know i will be seeing. not that they don't improvise in some scenes, but i just know that every romantic edser scene is gonna be analyzed to hell bc ppl want to look for hanker in them. like there's no possible way that ayse, the writer ppl hate the most, could write any romantic scenes.. nope no way!
Yes, this is one of my pet peeves, I can't stand the "Edser left the chat" and all the "that's Hanker, not Edser" type conversation. it's so invasive and most of all disrespectful to not only the writers, but Hande and Kerem and all the work they pour into bringing Eda and Serkan to life.
One of the things in fandom that sets my teeth on edge is when folks take some interpretation of the character by the actor and then decide because it wasn't "scripted" (pro tip the vast majority of physical movements the actors make are "unscripted") that it must just be the actors themselves and have nothing to do with the characters. What an embarrassing and naïve assertion. Actors literal job is to take what's on the page and then translate that. So, no, OF COURSE, every look and touch is not scripted. The actors interpret how their characters would think and feel, and what they would do in given moments and then do those things.
Eda is not touching Serkan's arm just because Hande can't hold herself back from touching Kerem. Puh-lease, they are professionals. Grow up.
However, having said all that, I do think there was one scene that seemed to be very improvised this episode. The bean scene in the grocery store did feel like them just eFFing around. LOL.
andhewonherheart asked: @andhewonherheart: SCK promo department is best and worst all at the same time, cause giving away the last (cliffhanger) scene in fragman is just cruel. But based on the next week’s fragman thing happens that we we think happens *wink*
Hee! So true. The thing I'm grateful for is that in season 2 not one fragman has made me dread the episode, I think there was at least one fragman an episode from 29-37 that was hella upsetting.
As far as I'm concerned these fragmans are doing there job, making me want to watch.
I am really excited for Serkan planning how he's going to ask Eda to marry him, I wonder what Kiraz's reaction is going to be. So far she's been their very own cupid!
Anonymous asked: I didn't find it surprising that Serkan removed his tattoo as soon as Eda left. His logic is always out of sight out of mind though it doesn't work. He did the same when he broke up with her when he found out about the death of her parents. He removed all of her belongings. But their memories are too strong and enough for him to continue to remember her.
Truth! Will he ever learn that it's never going to work? He'll never be able to erase Eda, she has left an indelible mark on his soul. Let's hope he's never faced with that situation again! From here on out, he and Eda are together, a unit, and will live a long life together and in love.
Anyone have any guesses where Eda's tattoo is? Will we find out or will it remain between the characters.
Anonymous asked: I've seen some people say that Edser are getting married now way too fast and to that I just have to laugh lol. First there were complaints we don't have happy Edser and now when we do, of course there's something else. These two have had a rollercoaster of a year when they first met and a five year separation.. they've been through the dating phase, the engaged phase.. of course they'll head straight to the altar! It's not like Eda's plane proposal and that first wedding wasn't rushed either!
I'm on team head straight to the alter! No more waiting. They've had terrible luck, so they just need to tie the knot and make sure there are no easy outs.
As for people who think it's too fast, they don't even know the storyline yet, I swear there are folks who complain just because that's their personality and they're never satisfied.
Anonymous asked: From some of the spoilers of BTS pics, and the fragman we got, I was just reflecting on this season and Turk romcom dizis in general and I just wanted to say how LUCKY we are to see Edser married (again, from spoilers) and with a kid on screen for more than just 10 minute at the end of the finale. Like, it is really rare and as much as people have nitpicked on this season in general, I feel like watching these last episodes have been such a breeze after the last arc of S1.
Oh agreed, I think these episodes have been very enjoyable. The writers are giving me exactly what I want from this show. Comedy, UST, romance with a little light angst thrown in now and again. I would rewatch this season a dozen times before even thinking about watching anything from the 30s.
We are very lucky that we've got to see them as parents, and actually forming their family. We've gotten so much domestic goodness so far and we still have a ways to go. I'm very appreciative of this season and that Ayse came back, got rid of the constant ridiculous melodrama for melodrama's-sake and is telling a very human story about family and love persevering.
Anonymous asked: the last scene gave me chills for some reason. you could actually see eda fighting her head and her heart and deciding to take the step (metaphorically and physically!) towards him for good. i wanna SUE whoever decided to end it the ep there though.. it was actually cruel. also looking at the next frag.. it makes my heart soft that in the flashbacks we see serkan pushing off their wedding bc of his fears and now he can't propose and get married fast enough.. can't believe we're really getting it
I know, it's almost surreal at this point. Since we're near the end we know it's for real and won't be ruined by psychos or awful family members or terminal illness. I just hope that they give us an emotional scene when they get married, whether its just them or the whole cast is there as guests, after everything they've (we've) been through we need to see them both feeling that moment and reveling in it.
FYI - I'm out of town next weekend, so I may be slower than usual in replying to asks and in posting gifs of 47, but I'll get to it all eventually!
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